Goodell upholds suspensions of Payton, Loomis, Vitt

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As expected, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has upheld the suspensions of Saints head coach Sean Payton, General Manager Mickey Loomis and assistant head coach Joe Vitt for their roles in the Saints’ bounty scandal.

That means Payton will begin his suspension in one week, on April 16, and will be barred from the team until the end of the 2012 season. Loomis will be suspended for the first eight games of the regular season and Vitt will be suspended for the first six games of the regular season, with both of those suspensions beginning when the preseason ends.

The league’s announcement said Goodell gave “careful consideration” to the appeals that Payton, Loomis and Vitt filed, but no one seriously believed there was any chance that he would shorten their suspensions.

Goodell did, however, say he would consider lessening the financial penalties that the three men will face, “If they embrace the opportunity and participate in a constructive way.” In other words, if they speak out in favor of the culture change that Goodell has demanded, Goodell may not make them all forfeit all the salaries they would ordinarily miss out on during their suspensions.

Goodell also said he would re-consider the Saints’ forfeiture of their 2013 second-round draft pick.

The league says Goodell will revisit the status of Payton, Loomis and Vitt at the time that their suspensions end — signaling that the three men need to be positive participants in that culture change he wants if they want their suspensions to end on schedule.

125 responses to “Goodell upholds suspensions of Payton, Loomis, Vitt

  1. This is not surprising…when your appeal is heard by the same judge that handed down the original sentence. But it just so happens to be the right call this time, these guys are getting what they got coming.

  2. I know having one person serving as jury, judge, executioner, and now the appellate court is not exactly a fair arbitration, but Goodell simply could not reduce the service penalties in this case. I would keep the financial penalties in place, too. Nothing gets your attention like a whallop in the wallet. Nobody on the Saints is going hungry or to the poor house.

    Well, maybe Warren Sapp but he doesn’t count.

  3. Yeah, baby!

    Hey, did you all hear the latest joke about Roger Goodell? Roger goes home and gets in bed with his wife, Jane, and she says “God, your feet are cold!”

    Goodell responds with: “When we’re at home, you can call me Roger”.

  4. I still can’t believe they got stricter punishment than SPYGATE. ((Something that could have actually destroyed the NFL had they properly investigated it))

  5. Why would he reduce the draft pick penalty? The Saints got off easy in that regard as it is.

  6. Good. Now bring on the Parcells circus, as the fan of a likely losing team next season, following this train wreck will be a good source of entertainment for months to come!

    They’re all lucky they didn’t get worse discipline.

    Countdown until LA State Legislature moves this to the front of their agenda: 10, 9, 8…

  7. How can Goddell decide if they will get some of their salaries?

    If Sean is not working at all for the season, why in the world would the Saints want to pay him anything, no matter what Roger says?

    Weird.

  8. all 3 of them costed

    a chance at the greatest AMERICAN story of all time

    favre to win a ring with Minney and then retire…

  9. The suspension should start NOW!! Why the extra week? I also don’t believe they should could any compensation back. Do the crime pay the fine!

  10. If I were Sean Payton I would’ve immediately canceled my meeting for an appeal once that audio of the Williams surfaced!

  11. “The league says Goodell will revisit the status of Payton, Loomis and Vitt at the time that their suspensions end — signaling that the three men need to be positive participants in that culture change he wants if they want their suspensions to end on schedule.”

    While I agree that the ruling should be upheld, what I don’t agree with is that final line. “If they want their suspensions to end on schedule” What is that supposed to mean? If they honored their punishment and completed it, what else is there? You can’t add another punishment on top of the current one, that’s just for civil. If that what he wanted to do he should have made it 2 yrs with a revisit after the first..

  12. “positive participants in that culture change he wants if they want their suspensions to end on schedule.”………………………cheat for 3+years, cover it up, lie about it, keep doing it as recently as this past January vs. 49’ers, blame Shockey, blame the Commish, blame the “rogue”, blame the dude who filmed the evidence, offer up insincere apologies and acceptance of responsiblity and then appeal the suspensions…sounds like “negative participants” to me. They deserve harsher penalties and only if they publically admit their guilt and involvement should any lienency be considered.

  13. Payton’s suspension should be immediate following Goodell’s ruling today, as the original suspension was 1-April. Why give the Saints any additional time?.?

    Now time for the player penalties to come, and the expected appeals from the NFLPA….

  14. as i stated in earlier posts everyone involved knew the suspensions would stay – payton got 16 more days out of the process. not double the suspension or any of the nonsense suggested by bloggers. 16 days is alot of extra time to conduct team business.

  15. I am a die hard Saints fan, I did not believe Goodell would change his original ruling, in all walks of like when there is an appeal it does not go before the the person that handed down the ruling unlike the NFL, so let’s get all the Saints haters to go ahead and get their comments out and move on so we can get on with football, Saints are still gonna kick ass this year so get ready NFL

  16. Good call. He still dangles a carrot. If the suspension came with no incentive to engage in the process, then all of them could just check out.

    Now their actions from here on out will determine if they receive any salary or their draft pick back. And if they agitate the situation or say something lame like “The Commissioner did what he did, but we still didn’t do anything wrong. I take responsibility, but it’s really all “rogue” Williams fault”, then say goodbye to your pay and pick.

    If they spend the next year participating in the process and trying to do some good, beyond some half-hearted statement, they may redeem themselves to the Commish and the public.

  17. How can Goodell do anything about lost wages? He does not pay these guys the owner does.

  18. Payton: Well, Rog. Have you given any more thought to our appeals?

    Goodell: Been on You Tube lately?

    Payton. Thanks for your time. Do you validate?

  19. I still say that since this lasted three years alone in New Orleans the punishment s/b 25 million dollars and take away both the 2013 and 2014 first round draft choices as well as the suspension………….that sounds about right!

  20. Good news for Saints fans in my opinion. There was little chance the suspensions would be reduced but hopefully we’ll get our 2013 2nd round pick back. Maybe make it a 3rd or 4th.

    Payton also bought himself a couple of extra weeks before the suspension kicks in to figure out if he wants Parcells to run things.

  21. No way should he give them back either of the draft picks! Two 2nds was too light to begin with.

  22. I thought the punishments were too harsh for all of them until I heard the audio and the ACL reference, now I think they are just right.

    Let’s see if other NFC South teams can step up and grab that division. The Saints offense is going to face very motivated defenses every week, not that it matters much. They will get an extremely motivated 9er team at home. Can’t hardly wait…

  23. I don’t get this. I’mm not a Saints fan, but what did Sean do? What did Loomis do? In hindsight, this a a part of life, we are all rewarded for doing a good job. If a linebacker cannot get to the ball, you replace him. If he does and takes a few guys out, he gets bigger contract! Sure, its not said pubically like the Defense Coach, but it’s there.

  24. Hey you all that are stating about the Saints and the punishments. Please don’t worry about coming to SB or begging for tickets. All these people here that are talking will be the first ones to put the TV on if the Saints make it there. The first ones that want to run to New Orleans grabbing the first drink they see. The first people to put a Saints shirt on. Get real I hope every Saint player is reading this to inspire them. Payton did this to buy time, he knew that he wouldn’t get nothing reduce.

  25. To quote Jason Whitlock today

    “Journalists, the guardians of democracy, have mastered the art of ignoring authentic injustice and writing safe narratives that enhance their Twitter followings and/or ingratiate them with the sources they cover. Consider this: No sport has more “heavyweight” sports journalists covering it than the NFL, but commissioner Roger Goodell “broke” the Saints bounty scandal. Goodell is our editor.

    While he pushes for an 18-game schedule, he is selling the myth that eliminating $1,000 bounties and explicit, tough-talking coaches will make the game more safe. ”

    Keep drinking the kool-aid you are served on that golden platter. The few of you that can actually think for yourself, many of which aren’t even Saints fans…have pointed out the issues with this whole process.

    We’ll take our lumps…and still be better than 95% of the league with the hand the league has figuratively tied behind our backs.

  26. Draft pick must stand! Either the owners are responsible for their franchises or they are not!

    The buck MUST stop at the top!

  27. Pretty crazy how easy they got off. Two second rounders and one year without your HC. This is all you get for blatantly violating the CBA with how you pay players, in the face of questioning and an investigation, while telling guys to attack ACL’s and heads of opposing QB’s and players.

    Honestly if this is the only punishment then it is well worth the risk. If they had stopped when initially questioned they probably would have gotten nothing. Why not just coach guys this way, pay them illegally, then just stop if the heat is on you?

  28. Goodell should not allow them to collect ANY of the money the would forfeit from their suspensions. First of all they don’t deserve to be paid if they don’t do the job during that time. And more importantly, they don’t deserve to be paid if they serve a suspension.

    Force them to sit and then pay them money during that time???! That does not make any sense at all.

  29. Goodell also said he would re-consider the Saints’ forfeiture of their 2013 second-round draft pick.
    Don’t go soft now! They deserve worse.

  30. I am very happy that he stuck to his guns on this. They deserve every bit of it. The fun thing for them now, is proving to people that they are not….wait, no they are are liars. Now they have to face Williams and be like, yo, bro, you know we were just kidding about the “Rouge Coach thing, right?”

  31. @nineroutsider says: Apr 9, 2012 1:36 PM

    I thought the punishments were too harsh for all of them until I heard the audio and the ACL reference, now I think they are just right.

    Let’s see if other NFC South teams can step up and grab that division. The Saints offense is going to face very motivated defenses every week, not that it matters much. They will get an extremely motivated 9er team at home. Can’t hardly wait…
    ———————–

    I’m guessing the Saints will be motivated as well. It’s hard to foster an “us against the world” mentality in a successful team’s locker room. Now it’s easy.

  32. Good on the Commisioner. They deserve everything they got, so get on with it.
    Maybe next time, they will think about what they do and say.
    Waiting on the players next, and the rumpus this is going to cause. Can’t wait to hear what happens with them.

  33. For all of thase “SAINTS HATERS” out there, BEWARE…WE ARE COMING no matter what!!! Even with all this going on, we were able to shore up our weaknesses in free agency, and I feel they are gonna come out with a vengeance. STAY TUNED, I know yall will be wathcing, because we are still the greatest show on turf..Oh yeah “WHO DAT”!!!!!

  34. myspaceyourface says:
    Apr 9, 2012 1:24 PM
    I still can’t believe they got stricter punishment than SPYGATE. ((Something that could have actually destroyed the NFL had they properly investigated it))

    NEITHER got punished when the NFL first found out. Spygate involved the Pats and they were told to stop and the did. So they got a pat on the wrist.

    When the Saints were found to be guilty of this three years ago they got NO punishment and were told to stop. Problem is, they DIDN’T. And that’s why they’re getting punished.

    comparison’s to Spygate are BS. One stopped when caught, one didn’t.

  35. “Keep drinking the kool-aid you are served on that golden platter. The few of you that can actually think for yourself, many of which aren’t even Saints fans…have pointed out the issues with this whole process.

    We’ll take our lumps…and still be better than 95% of the league with the hand the league has figuratively tied behind our backs.”

    Case closed, end of story.

    All the booger-eating Vikings and Falcons fans on here can keep wallowing in irrelevancy and wishing for harsher punishments. Fact of the matter is, the Saints will be just as good, if not better than they were last year and you’re just gonna have to deal with it.

  36. I fully support punishing the Saints, but Goodell’s making up the rules as he goes along is a really bad policy. Williams got an indefinite suspension but Payton and the others are suspended for a set period of time–there’s nothing to “revisit” when their suspensions end. And how can Goodell make promises on what these guys are paid? If the Saints decided to pay Payton zero because he won’t coach all year, Goodell certainly couldn’t force them to do so.

  37. nineroutsider says: Apr 9, 2012 1:36 PM

    I thought the punishments were too harsh for all of them until I heard the audio and the ACL reference, now I think they are just right.

    Let’s see if other NFC South teams can step up and grab that division. The Saints offense is going to face very motivated defenses every week, not that it matters much. They will get an extremely motivated 9er team at home. Can’t hardly wait…

    ====================================
    i agree with you however the question is WILL the others in the nfc south stop our very motivated offense ( a great offense is a good defense). i believe this ruling finally wakes up everyone involved and will get drew signed and OHHH cannot wait until that niner game either.

  38. You can smell the fear all you fans of the teams the Saints beat the crap out of. It’s not enough, please they are still going to whip up on us next year, you have to take more. What’s funny, Saints will still win and make playoffs and next year after Payton is back, Benson will give him a 6 million, bonus to make up for what he lost. Keep crying. Ha Ha

  39. Quote – “The three men need to be positive participants in that culture change he wants if they want their suspensions to end on schedule.”
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Really didn’t expect any chance of reducing the suspension times, so now we can get on with next seasons games and let this fall behind us.
    But OH, Goodell wants them to bow and kiss his ring in order to be knighted into knight hood. What an overjealous goof this man is.

  40. bigbadal21 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 1:33 PM
    How can Goodell do anything about lost wages? He does not pay these guys the owner does.
    ________________________________
    I never “got ” that either vis a vis what the punishments would have been for team officials having contact with players during the lockout but apparently there are provisions for this type of thing in their contracts. Crazy, huh?

    PLEASE I beg you guys to fix this thumbs up issue, along with the random deletions. TIA.

  41. saintjude267 says:Apr 9, 2012 1:27 PM

    Come on. Hammer the scapegoats, no other team has ever done this? Witch hunt!

    duece5 says: Yep, ….”they’re all doing it”! (sarc.)

    Yep, all 31 other teams have a fully institutiomalized bounty system in place to deliberately mame players, lie about it for 3 years, try to cover it up, lie more, get caught, appeal, then lose!

    Yep, EVERYONE’s doing that!!

  42. Sorry but the proof is on the field, I don’t care how many people Greg brought up in his rant, the players still didn’t Target players and eliminate them from games. Unless goodell has gone back and watch film from previous games, what makes him so qualified to hand out punishments. There’s obviously someone who’s gonna benefit from this, there’s a motive… Just like these punk ass fans that wants the Saints to be punished even more…..It’s obvious that we been putting up 40 plus on they team… Don’t worry its still gon happen Who Dat!

  43. I will just say a few things here…in light of the newest evidence (recording), Goodell shouldn’t even consider letting them have their draft pick back or informing Benson that he can pay these jackwads during a suspension. Here me out on something…I personally think all teams do something similar to this and it has been part of the culture for way too long. It is engrained into the players and coaches for years and years. Goodell is ruining this sport–period.

    So why do I think they should still lose the pick and go on an unpaid suspension? Because if we get in trouble, we have to accept the punishment, period. Only in select circumstances, should it be reversed, some innocent people do go to jail/get executed, painted/framed in a negative light/libeled and slandered, etc.

    But that isn’t the case here. I think the evidence is pretty damning that the bounty program was a little bit more than what was needed/expected in the game of football. Yes, they are going to go after injured players. Yes they are going to try and take out the star QB, RB/WR etc for a competitive advantage. I’m not saying it is right or wrong. I know there are plenty of big, legal or have been legal hits up until the last few year’s of Goodell’s reign, that are exciting and just part of the game. But I do agree with his punishment.

    Lastly, you Saints fans…just wow. Take off the rose-colored glasses. Brees hasn’t even been signed or has everybody forgotten about that. He very well could hold out. Just setting the record straight–he isn’t the classy, hero guy everyone makes him out to be…not in light of his comments about his contract and the bounty-gate scandal. Damn shame too. He “seemed” like one of the good guys. I will say this also, no chance NOLA makes it to the Superbowl. A team, playing in its home town/stadium, for the Superbowl? Not happening, hasn’t yet and I don’t think it ever will. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of two things happen–Brees signs and then is lost for the season within the first four weeks or he holds-out all season.

    Oh and one more thing, I agree with many other posters…lets move on already until the player suspensions/fines come out. I’m starting to grow tired of reading about this, Tebow, Manning, rinse and repeat. There are lots of other things happening and come on NFL Draft! Like Bart Scott…Can’t Wait!

  44. “comparison’s to Spygate are BS. One stopped when caught, one didn’t.”

    I agree with everything Rysol said. I’ve used this analogy before, but Spygate is gamesmanship. It’s cheating and should be punished, but it’s about trying to find any competitive advantage you can. In baseball, this would be like throwing a spitball or corking a bat. The bounty-gate thing would be like intentionally throwing at a guy’s head or using the bat as a weapon.

    There’s a big difference between trying to knock somebody OFF his game versus trying to knock somebody OUT of the game. If people can’t recognize that I feel bad that their parents failed them so much.

  45. By the way, under Louisiana state law, an employer cannot give financial penalties to an employee. Of course, the NFL is not technically Payton’s employer…
    Any lawyers want to weigh in on this?

  46. Good for Goodell for coming down on the side of justice in this case.

    Will really be funny if the Saints suck and Drew Brees leaves after the season.

  47. Along with ‘Who Dat’ there’s a new cheer:

    Roger Goodell, go to hell
    Roger Goodell, go to hell!

    A little immature, but I like it!

  48. Lifelong Saints fan here, and i am not surprised or disappointed at this news. Even if Payton was not directly involved, he was responsible for the actions of his DC. You can’t claim ignorance of what’s going on under your watch.

    If you’re Mickey Loomis, your 1st, 2nd, & 3rd priorities now, are signing Brees to a long term deal before your suspension kicks in. Without him, this season goes completely down the crapper. With him, we have a legtimate shot to win the SB. Regardless if you like Brees, or can’t stand him, the man is one of the absolute best QBs in the game right now.

  49. I get so effin tired when apologists dismiss “bounty gate” as part of the “culture.”

    It’s not part of the culture. The culture includes stopping the other guy from excelling at his job. The culture does not mean maiming the guy so he can’t show up for work.

  50. If the players do not get the same type of penalty
    that coaches and other received, I think the
    Commissioner should withdraw the suspensions
    from the coaches and others. The players should
    be penalized more they took the money.

    JimT

  51. I don’t understand why he didn’t start the suspension immediately for Payton, since the original intention was for it to start 4/1/12.

  52. genericuser8888 says: Apr 9, 2012 2:28 PM

    Man, it’s going to feel really weird when Goodell has to hand Bill Parcells the Lobardi this year.

    But not too weird

    ======================================
    BREAKING NEWS- if that actually happens- the payton suspension ends when the stadium clock is showing all zeros. RG would b handing the loMbardi to payton and parcells. if that actually happens-just saying. now that would b weird.

  53. BS witch hunt…anybody connected with the game knows this is just one team being punished for what every single team has done since football was invented. Thought crimes, and not one single player actually hurt, and no “bounties” collected…Say what you will, all you Saints haters in the dog pile talking smack. We will STILL be Super Bowl contenders. Facts didn’t matter from the get-go, just the sexy story, huge selling headlines, and the chance for GODell to flex his 13 inch guns at the men who actually matter in this game. Mark my words. This will come back to bite GODell is his keyster one day, and the sooner the better. Have fun with your haterade kids…it’s all you have. WHO DAT 4 EVAH!!!

  54. ravensrooster94 says:Apr 9, 2012 1:23 PM

    I know having one person serving as jury, judge, executioner, and now the appellate court is not exactly a fair arbitration,

    Appeals are usually called for when someone maitains their inosense. Coming out and taking full responsibility hardly counts as saying you’ve been treated unjustly.
    And then if they play nice, they might not loose all of their salary? What a joke. Must be a 8 strikes system Goodell has implemented.

  55. @darthsaint

    “To quote Jason Whitlock today”

    Best way to scuttle your point before you even state it.

    The guy is an idiot. If he’s your go-to defense, your defense is bad.

  56. Gotta wonder how some of these self-righteous fans would react if the NFL actually conducted a league-wide investigation.

    It’s easy to pile on one team. I’d love to have seen the reaction if half the league was punished as well.

  57. BS witch hunt…anybody connected with the game knows this is just one team being punished for what every single team has done since football was invented. Thought crimes, and not one single player actually hurt, and no “bounties” collected…Say what you will, all you Saints haters in the dog pile talking smack. We will STILL be Super Bowl contenders. Facts didn’t matter from the get-go, just the sexy story, huge selling headlines, and the chance for GODell to flex his 13 inch guns at the men who actually matter in this game. Mark my words. This will come back to bite GODell is his keyster one day, and the sooner the better. Have fun with your haterade kids…it’s all you have. WHO DAT 4 EVAH!!!

    And you are a buthurt friggin idiot!

  58. Is it just me, or does anyone else things Tom Benson will give Sean Payton a new contract in a year or two so SP will get his $6 mil back.

  59. A team, playing in its home town/stadium, for the Superbowl? Not happening, hasn’t yet and I don’t think it ever will.

    It has happened. SB XIV, Los Angeles Rams vs Pittsburgh Steelers. Played in Pasadena’s Rose Bowl, just a 1/2 hour from the Coliseum where the Rams played. Although it wasn’t in the exact stadium, it gave extra tickets to LA fans for hosting and being in the SB. Worked for me.

    For those that think the Saints are just being picked on, or singled out, thus shouldn’t be punished, do you also think that if 10 people run a red light that if they only catch one and ticket them, they should be let go because 9 others weren’t?

    Just because he encouraged people to take someone out, AND was willing to pay them for it, AND they didn’t actually get carted off the field, they shouldn’t be punished either? What kind of society is this that thinks it’s alright to suggest paying someone for maiming someone else is alright? Just glad none of my children were victims of this cave man mentality.

    Blind allegiance to a person or team has lead societies to fall and wreaks of mob mentality.

    Just because football is inherently a violent sport, doesn’t make head hunting right.

  60. I once read:

    Especially at the quarterback position, any opportunity to knock the starter out of the game should be embraced.

  61. sirblitzalot15 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 2:27 PM
    Sorry but the proof is on the field, I don’t care how many people Greg brought up in his rant, the players still didn’t Target players and eliminate them from games.
    ————————————————–

    Who says they didn’t target other players??? Just because they weren’t always successful doesn’t mean they weren’t trying, or that they shouldn’t be punished.

    It’s in keeping with basic tenets of justice. If you try to murder someone and fail, you can still go to prison! What? Yes, it’s totally true, it’s called “ATTEMPTED murder”, and it’s considered pretty serious. A person who tries to commit any crime and botches it up is still guilty of a crime.

  62. Here comes a lawsuit from the most classless and arrogant coach in the NFL.. He will ultimately ruin his own career..
    doubt mike will let this post get on.. he almost always censors mine…

  63. If anybody thought the appeals were anything else, besides a time extender for Sean to get his business in order, you’re an idiot. Of course he knew he was guilty, but if you can buy another couple weeks to settle affairs before you are kicked from the building, why not?

  64. Good. Now Payton can start actually taking responsibility for his actions instead of just saying that he does. Too bad the suspensions weren’t lengthened really.

  65. I am in favor and support the punishments handed out to the individuals involved.

    I am not in favor of the loss of draft picks – that has the impact of extending this punishment long into the future. The major losers of this extended punishment will be the fans of Saints. If the commissioner feels that the team requires additional punishment it should be in the form of $$$. ($5 million ??)

    It is unfortunate that the Saints fans have to share in this punishment through the loss of a season but let’s not carry this punishment beyond this year.

  66. All the Saints fans defending Payton et al is eerily similar to all the PSU fans defending Paterno and all the Steelers fans defending Roethlisberger.

    Perception is massively skewed when adoration is involved.

  67. If Goodell has too much power, he only has the powers defined by the owners. If the owners would like to have three branches, they can accomplish that with ease. The owners have a commissioner for a reason, and he is fulfilling that reason, presumably to the owners’ satisfaction. Can anyone doubt the punishment Goodell handed down wasn’t approved by some sort of executive council of owners, whose team would be held to the same standard? If Goodell put on boots too big for him, he’d get the drift real quick. The NFL isn’t a democracy, and Goodell isn’t elected. The NFL is an oligocracy and Goodell is a prime minister of the oligarchs. When he operates outside the wishes of the majority faction of the oligarchs, his tenure will be over.

  68. detruthhurts says:
    Apr 9, 2012 3:04 PM
    BS witch hunt…anybody connected with the game knows this is just one team being punished for what every single team has done since football was invented. Thought crimes, and not one single player actually hurt, and no “bounties” collected…

    Bounties were collected. The truth DOES hurt, doesn’t it?

  69. philwauke says: Apr 9, 2012 1:48 PM

    maybe now we’ll only get 3 stories a day about it.

    ====================================
    i know however im shocked that MF didnt author this story since he seem to have xclusive rights. but then again he didnt author this story so u know there will b many to come like “what does this decision mean for the saints”, ” how do the saints move forward”, “signing drew brees is tpo priority for saints”, ” looking at the nfc south for 2012″, “will other defensive coaches not reward players with game balls ”
    sorry to say this but it will not stop on this site because ” clicks” = $$$

  70. Wisconsin77 says: Apr 9, 2012 3:35 PM

    Saints 2009 Season NFC Champs*
    Saints 2009 Season Super bowl Champs*

    =============================

    The only one inserting an asterisk is your dumbass.
    In the OFFICIAL NFL record books, there are no asterisks…..hahahahahahaha

  71. wewantflagfootball says: Apr 9, 2012 3:58 PM
    The only one inserting an asterisk is your dumbass.
    In the OFFICIAL NFL record books, there are no asterisks…..hahahahahahaha

    Why don’t you ask Barry Bonds if that is all that matters? Respect of the fans is just as important, otherwise the accomplishment is meaningless.

  72. I agree with most of you here, this may be one of the worst mocks this year I have read. Whoever this Evan guy is, you should not have a job, and I now know you never watch football or know how to evaluate talent..

    Kuechly at 32 is the worst of this mock, he is a stud LB who is a guarantee in top 15

    Brockers is close by you having him going top 5, he is raw and has upside, but he will not be picked that high in front of other DT

    This is a waste of time and you should be fired..

  73. hikohadon says: Apr 9, 2012 3:45 PM

    All the Saints fans defending Payton et al is eerily similar to all the PSU fans defending Paterno and all the Steelers fans defending Roethlisberger.

    Perception is massively skewed when adoration is involved.
    ==================================
    Dumbest comment EVER. To compare this bounty BS to repeated child molestation over a 10 year period…oh my god…

  74. Wisconsin77 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 4:10 PM

    Why don’t you ask Barry Bonds if that is all that matters? Respect of the fans is just as important, otherwise the accomplishment is meaningless.
    __________________________________
    As a fan, I believe that the most important things to people who play sports are some combination of money, championships and the respect of their PEERS and opposing coaches and GMs. Not us. Sure some want adulation, and a lot of guys treat fans and media well because they are decent people or they like to maintain their image, but for the most part they realize that stuff is fleeting and doesn’t mean that much as far as their achievements. Can’t say I disagree with that. Not too many people talk about what dbs guys like Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb were, do they? The further away in time guys played the less that matters, and it only “matters” now because of the internet, videophones, etc and instant accessibility of everything.

  75. genericuser8888 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 2:28 PM
    Man, it’s going to feel really weird when Goodell has to hand Bill Parcells the Lobardi this year.

    But not too weird.
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    When did Parcells join the Packers?

  76. the guy should have been fired, he got off easy how do you not fire the head coach everyone is disgusted with williams, payton new what was going on, and the fact he didn’t do anything about it is pretty gross!!!!! I’ve lost all respect for payton

  77. The fact that they even tried an appeal is really asinine. C’mon the dude who played judge and jury to give you the penalties is now the appeal person. It’s like duh, do you think he’s going to undermine himself by changing his original decision???

  78. ravensgrl says:
    Apr 9, 2012 2:40 PM
    I don’t understand why he didn’t start the suspension immediately for Payton, since the original intention was for it to start 4/1/12.
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    I have written in several articles about theSaints when so many couldn’t understand him appealing. This was strickly a legal manuver to buy a lil more time with the team to plan things out. None of em ever intended to have the suspensions reduced, they knew they were going to have to serve that time. It gave Payton 2 more weeks to set things in the plans for the up-coming season. They got exactly what was wanted – (a lil more time) Its like any other appeal system – it stalls the process a lil while- thats all they wanted. Whats so hard to understand about that?

  79. LOL, Goodell gave as much consideration to the appeals as the parole board give Charles Manson.

  80. yojoemama says:
    Apr 10, 2012 12:13 AM
    The fact that they even tried an appeal is really asinine. C’mon the dude who played judge and jury to give you the penalties is now the appeal person. It’s like duh, do you think he’s going to undermine himself by changing his original decision???

    It’s like duh, jackass. They knew the appeals weren’t going to be overturned. This was just a strategic move to buy a little extra time before the suspensions kicked in. The fact that you, along with others, still don’t comprehend that fact, only further illustrates how clueless you are.

    It’s like duh? What are you, a 15 y.o. girl?

  81. Octomom as interim head coach. Great move bc it eliminates welfare benefits that we have to pay for and she has a great place to store the challenge flag. The ratings will be record setting and provide an excellent 1st round pick next year. Sean doesn’t have anything to worry about regarding Job security.

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