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In the end, Payton’s appeal buys two weeks, one day

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With no downside to appealing his one-season suspension, Saints coach Sean Payton’s decision to ask Commissioner Roger Goodell to reconsider the decision previously made by, um, Commissioner Roger Goodell had no downside.

Other than the relatively limited criticism arising from those who were unable to reconcile the notion of taking “full responsibility” with the decision to appeal the suspension.

In the end, Payton delayed the suspension by two weeks and a day, nudging it from Sunday, April 1 until Monday, April 16.  Assuming that he’s making $7 million per year, he saved roughly $270,000 by appealing.

He also created more time to help the team prepare for the draft.  G.M. Mickey Loomis, whose suspension doesn’t begin until the start of the regular season, isn’t a traditional “football guy,” which means that Payton typically has significant input in draft planning.  The Saints now have another week to get his input.

The Saints also have another week to involve Payton in the process of appointing an interim head coach.  After several days of intense speculation regarding the possibility of Bill Parcells emerging from retirement for a one-shot pursuit of a Super Bowl tile, the grapevine has shriveled up — which likely means plenty of things are happening quietly and discreetly.  Until Parcells rules out taking the job, he remains in play.  With each passing day, the chances of Parcells having some sort of involvement with the 2012 Saints seem to grow.

Last week, Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune suggested during an appearance on PFT Live that a decision will be made before the draft.  This means that a couple of weeks of the team’s offseason program could unfold with no head coach.

Or, perhaps, with an interim interim head coach.

Either way, the biggest story of the 2012 offseason won’t be going away any time soon.

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21 Responses to “In the end, Payton’s appeal buys two weeks, one day”
  1. bozosforall says: Apr 9, 2012 3:03 PM

    What it really showed is the ludicracy of having Goodell be judge, jury and executioner.

  2. abengalfan says: Apr 9, 2012 3:20 PM

    Do not understand why the suspensions do not begin either today or Tuesday.
    If it is truly a year long suspension Peyotn should not be allowed back to April 16, 2013

  3. thenextcommish says: Apr 9, 2012 3:21 PM

    Just a guess, but I believe Payton is prohibited from having any involvement with the Saints once his suspension takes effect. If that assumption is correct, then as the true personnel guy, the best way for him to continue to have input is to feed it to Parcells … who is not part of the organization … yet.

  4. nineroutsider says: Apr 9, 2012 3:23 PM

    Bring on the Tuna!!!

  5. deathtoromo says: Apr 9, 2012 3:25 PM

    Again, Payton and saints giving Goodell the “finger”. Why does he get another week??? This gives all a glimpse of what an arrogant dk Payton is.

  6. blacknole08 says: Apr 9, 2012 3:31 PM

    I understand the strategy on Payton’s behalf of filing for an appeal, as it would not only delay his inevitable suspension and give him time to prepare for the draft/look for interim coach. However, what really irks me about him is that he accepted responsibility for his actions, but appealed anyways. Why do that if you are pleading guilty?

    Payton is very arrogant and deserves the punishment he got.

  7. jackntorres says: Apr 9, 2012 3:35 PM

    Especially at the quarterback position, any opportunity to knock the starter out of the game should be embraced. –Mike Florio c. September 2011

  8. nokoolaidcowboy says: Apr 9, 2012 3:46 PM

    Exactly, Payton’s arrogance is what gets me about this whole situation. No remorse and looking for loop holes!

  9. bobhpine says: Apr 9, 2012 3:46 PM

    How exactly did he save 270k? That amount will be docked during that two week period next year. It is still a year long ban, not 50 weeks. Florio not good math skills, not good know how long year is. Need work.

  10. marvsleezy says: Apr 9, 2012 3:48 PM

    Nothing Better Than A Super Bowl tile!!!

  11. geauxsaintsforever says: Apr 9, 2012 3:57 PM

    blacknole08 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 3:31 PM
    I understand the strategy on Payton’s behalf of filing for an appeal, as it would not only delay his inevitable suspension and give him time to prepare for the draft/look for interim coach. However, what really irks me about him is that he accepted responsibility for his actions, but appealed anyways. Why do that if you are pleading guilty?

    Payton is very arrogant and deserves the punishment he got.
    _____________

    So applying your logic, if someone steals a pack of gum from the convenience store, admits they were wrong for doing it, and a judge sentences him/her to 25 years in jail, they shouldn’t appeal because they admitted fault? I guarantee you would appeal under those circumstances. Come on people, this isn’t that complicated (and we’ve been saying it for weeks now). Admitting fault and appealing the length of a suspension are two separate things.

  12. nineroutsider says: Apr 9, 2012 3:58 PM

    jackntorres says: Apr 9, 2012 3:35 PM

    Especially at the quarterback position, any opportunity to knock the starter out of the game should be embraced. –Mike Florio c. September 2011
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    Now that is funny! Florio – we await your rebuttal! Your concern of late is not very deep rooted now is it?

  13. daysend564 says: Apr 9, 2012 3:58 PM

    Since he delayed it two weeks and one day, he shouldn’t get to come back for an extra two weeks and one day.

  14. Loose Changeup says: Apr 9, 2012 4:05 PM

    “Assuming that he’s making $7 million per year, he saved roughly $270,000 by appealing.”

    I’m sure that’s exactly the reason for the appeal. I guess that’ll help him get back the money he put up to hire Williams in the first place.

  15. purpleguy says: Apr 9, 2012 4:10 PM

    Well, he had to pay his legal representative to both draft an appeal and appear, which I don’t imagine was inexpensive. Maybe that cost was worth the extra couple weeks — or maybe they used the remaining bounty slush fund to cover costs.

  16. cajuninwv says: Apr 9, 2012 4:24 PM

    As a saints fan a miss the good old days. when I use to log onto PFT.com and hope something was posted about the saints and not find anything but a daily one liner……..

  17. kodakinvegas says: Apr 9, 2012 4:38 PM

    Williams could not have done what he did without consent, affirmation or approval from Payton. Salary re-consideration? What OF they’d have ripped an “outside ACL” out? How heap is that. To pull this CRAP and then end up with a PAID VACATION on top of it. What a JOKE! I want to put in an application in the NFL, SAINTS or wherever. Heck, Ifs be taking out 2 a year. Geez. Paid hits plus vacation time compliments of only the NFL I WANT A JOB!!

  18. blacknole08 says: Apr 9, 2012 4:47 PM

    geauxsaintsforever says: Apr 9, 2012 3:57 PM

    So applying your logic, if someone steals a pack of gum from the convenience store, admits they were wrong for doing it, and a judge sentences him/her to 25 years in jail, they shouldn’t appeal because they admitted fault? I guarantee you would appeal under those circumstances. Come on people, this isn’t that complicated (and we’ve been saying it for weeks now). Admitting fault and appealing the length of a suspension are two separate things.

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    I wouldn’t appeal if I admitted guilt. That’s called being a man of my word. I admitted to something, therefore I accept the consequences for my actions. Thumbs down if you want because everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that’s just me.

    Your scenario doesn’t make that much sense though because there could be added variables that could contribute to getting an inflated 25+ sentence. For example, if you used a gun/knife/weapon in the robbery, no matter how minuscule an item it was that you had stolen, then you should do some hard time. You are intending to do harm to someone for your own personal gains.

    Gregg Williams wanted to harm other players for his own personal gains. Sean Payton saw/heard about this and did nothing. So he’s just as guilty and should have just taken his punishment like a man.

  19. hades304 says: Apr 9, 2012 6:45 PM

    Especially at the quarterback position, any opportunity to knock the starter out of the game should be embraced. –Mike Florio c. September 2011
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    He already posted a rebuttal to this….he backtracked on the above statement….I called him out on it and my post was deleted.

    This one will probably be deleted too.

  20. stevenfbrackett says: Apr 9, 2012 11:45 PM

    There certainly was a downside to his appealing – it was further damage to his and the team’s reputations. If any of them, besides Williams, would have owned up to what they did and taken their punishment as presented, they would have been forgiven or at least given another chance to prove themselves reformed much sooner.

    Now the court of public opinion thinks much, much worse of them and that will cost the team fans and cash in the form or ticket and merch sales, companies won’t be calling them offering to discuss sponsorship possibilities and quality players who have alternatives will take the other offers to save themselves from being tainted by association.

    That would have happened anyway, but the duration of the downturn will now be much longer and more will never come back.

  21. drinkpeepee says: Apr 10, 2012 9:27 AM

    I have been wondering whether the 1 year suspension is one calendar year, one league year, or one season. one calendar year would take the suspension to either april 1, 2013 or april 16, 2013, depending on whether the suspension is enforced from the original date it was supposed to have been imposed or the date on which the appeal was denied. one league year would be self-explanatory. one season would be open to interpretation, ie if the Saints make the playoffs Payton could argue that he had served the duration of his one-season suspension given that the postseason is not guaranteed or participated in by all teams. One season could by way of semantics mean one regular season, and Payton could certainly make a case for his return to the sidelines beginning in the wildcard round of the playoffs if the suspension terms are “one season.” Something to consider.

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