If thats the case please show us where you are getting your information from….

The Deal is done already, it was if the Raiders make it to the AFC Championship game in the 2011 season, then the the second round pick would be a first.

Do us a favor, before you start stabbing your fat fingers on the key board with your misinformation, do a little research first. Thanks……
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Wow you really are a clown. Raider fan, by the way, “moron”. As for my “fat fingers”…..

Per ESPN, via Associated Press

The Raiders are hoping he can do a lot, having traded a 2012 first-round pick and a conditional second-rounder in 2013 that can become another first if Oakland makes it to the AFC title game in either of the next two years.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7118158/oakland-raiders-acquire-carson-palmer-cincinnati-bengals

Per NFL.com

NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi reported that the 2013 second-round pick will become a first-rounder if the Raiders play in the AFC Championship Game in either of the next two years

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233c392/article/raiders-acquire-veteran-qb-palmer-from-bengals

Now go crawl under the rock you came out of.

stull60060 and ch8878, you are both wrong. If the Raiders make it to the AFC Championship in 2012 (they didn’t) or 2013 (a possibility), the 2013 2nd round pick becomes a 2013 1st round pick.

If thats the case please show us where you are getting your information from….

The Deal is done already, it was if the Raiders make it to the AFC Championship game in the 2011 season, then the the second round pick would be a first.

Do us a favor, before you start stabbing your fat fingers on the key board with your misinformation, do a little research first. Thanks……

As for this chowder loving honk:
patspatspatspats says:
Apr 9, 2012 3:03 PM
A 1 doesn’t have as much value for the raiders.

They would just reach for a 3rd round talent with speed.
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Al Davis passed away in 2011, please be current with your useless rants. Also, your cheating coach and organization has poached plenty of exRaiders over the past few years. All drafted by Al Davis. Shake yourself chowder head. You SHOULD be concerned about the horrible start to your drama riddled baseball team led by a “past his prime” blowhard.

If Palmer does lead the Raiders to a division title, McKenzie will….
Risk losing another first round pick. You forget the second round pick in 2013 was a conditional pick that could become a first if Palmer and the raiders reach the AFC title game.
But since that’s not going to happen. Thanks for the first and second pick. Enjoy ‘pick 6 Palmer’

If the league gave out trophies for collecting extra draft picks, the Bengals would…lose to the Browns. Enjoy your offseason, where you still have a chance at success.

Oh wait… Never mind. Denver signed Manning, no one has to play the games this season. Damn!

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One is a quarterback, the other is a wide receiver.

Not to mention Raiders were 4-2 at the time of the trade and the alternative was handing the reins to Kyle Boller and flame out much like the Bears did with Caleb Hanie. In the end, the defense and McFadden’s injury kept the Raiders out of the playoffs, but at least we were still alive with a few minutes to go in Week 17 and now have a legitimate franchise QB to move forward with.

1. Carson Palmer, QB, USC
2. Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU
2. Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington
3. Terrelle Pryor, QB, Ohio State
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest

If you’re keeping score at home, that’s: a franchise QB; probable starting RT; No. 2 RB with incredible explosiveness; backup QB with tremendous upside; a former Butkus Award winning, top-5 pick starting OLB.

The Raiders could draft zero productive players with their 5 remaining picks and I’d be happy with what we got out of our picks this year. Right now, I’m ecstatic.

Like the man said, “If Reggie ain’t trippin, I ain’t trippin.

So far he’s worked some magic, and taken the “doom” out of the “gloom.” AT the very least we seem to be headed in the right direction. That’s something that hasn’t happend since 2002.

Well said. That’s why picks get structured contracts now. No more holding out, like that big bus, and I do mean BUS, Jarmarcus.

Truth is, the draft is a crap shoot. In the Raiders case this year, they’re better off with a former Pro Bowler, than crap shooting draft picks and waiting to develop a QB. We already have 1 project on the roster at that position.

Let’s let the new regime settle in, and see how they do this year. Then we’ll know. Running around half-crazy, (only half) is what Big AL used to do, over paying and making bad choices. Let’s see what patience, and a good GM and judge of talent gets us. One thing for sure, it couldn’t get any worse, and if it gets better, we’ll know we’re on the right track.

Gotta love the Bung-holes fans STILL flapping their gums about ‘the trade’…. lol
Try winning a championship, then maybe your opinions will be relevant…

They would just reach for a 3rd round talent with speed.

The more important question is, how does he feel about losing 8 games?

JaMarcus was a fat, out of shape slob. Pryor is a stud. Take the hof off your name till you watch a little football.

Of course we are!! You were lucky DMAC went down last year and it’s nice to see you coming to your senses. However, we already know we are great and are going to take it all this year!!

I understand the fear we put into your heads. It’s evident by the responses from your own fellow Donkey fans!

Don’t worry, the RAIDERS are clearly in everyones head.

Late…

Oh wait.. It’s the NFL !!! You don’t win Division Titles with just talent in April. Just ask the Eagles or better yet the every yr Superbowl bound Chargers/Cowboys. Which by the way all missed the playoffs.

Plus, how many super bowl appearances did old guys Unitas, Montana, Favre, Stabler, McNabb, etc have for their second teams?