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Tebow’s Easter popularity makes New York’s cardinal jealous

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Tim Tebow’s arrival in New York means that Cardinal Timothy Dolan can no longer think of himself as the city’s most influential Christian leader.

At Dolan’s Easter sermon on Sunday, he noted that far more people would turn out to hear Tebow preach.

“We got over 3,000 people at St. Patrick’s Cathedral this morning, you think one Timothy Dolan would be happy,” Dolan said during his Easter sermon. “But I’m jealous because one Timothy Tebow has 25,000.”

Dolan’s estimate of the crowd Tebow drew to his “Easter on the Hill” event was 10,000 more than what the Associated Press estimated, but regardless, Tebow may have been the preacher more Americans turned to than any other this Easter Sunday.

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  1. nyyjetsknicks says: Apr 9, 2012 12:24 PM

    How about everyone over the age of 9 stops believing in fairytales.

  2. tres79 says: Apr 9, 2012 12:26 PM

    Perhaps the cardinal might enjoy bigger crowds if he attended to religion instead of politics.

  3. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 9, 2012 12:31 PM

    15,000? I thought there was supposed to be 30,000.

    Looks like Tim can’t hit any targets.

  4. snookau says: Apr 9, 2012 12:31 PM

    “First and foremost is what this country was based on: one nation under God. The more that we can get back to that.” – Tebow from his talk on Sunday

    Shows how bright this guy is. “One Nation Under God” isn’t anywhere in our nations founding documents. Its in the Pledge of Allegiance. And it wasn’t added to that until the 1950s. Moron.

    Stick to the football, Timmy.

  5. bearsrulepackdrool says: Apr 9, 2012 12:31 PM

    It shouldn’t matter how many people are in the seats. Just as long as your message reaches each and every one of them.

  6. cali49er707 says: Apr 9, 2012 12:32 PM

    thats because most decided to use it as a up & close meeting of a celebrity, then for the true message & thumbs down if you want because, most towns or city’s have a church down the street, if it was about the message their is no need to drive miles away & whens the last time you went to easter services & sat with 15,000 folks half of them wearing a nfl jersey with the guy who’s speaking happens to have the same name on the back of those jerseys

  7. sws222 says: Apr 9, 2012 12:37 PM

    nyyjetsknicks says: Apr 9, 2012 12:24 PM

    How about everyone over the age of 9 stops believing in fairytales.

    How about everyone respect their fellow American’s rights to worship or not worship as they see fit?

  8. kidpresentable says: Apr 9, 2012 12:46 PM

    “First and foremost is what this country was based on: one nation under God.”

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…

    I don’t know, to me it seems an awful lot like the founding fathers wanted to keep government away from God and God away from the government. I mean, it’s right there in the FIRST amendment – the first thing mentioned. Seems like drawing a line in the sand between the two seemed pretty top-of-mind.

  9. nineroutsider says: Apr 9, 2012 12:46 PM

    Tebow will be a politician after he retires.

  10. cali49er707 says: Apr 9, 2012 12:52 PM

    i could just see it now a little 12 year old girl with her friends holding a sign” TEBOW WILL YOU MARRY ME” out in the crowd, YEA thats every sunday at church right???
    im not a tebow hater, just pointing out to all the ” WERE REALLY HEAR FOR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY” folks, & if he did not play in the NFL im sure all the thousands still would have showed!! YEA REALLY

  11. nyyjetsknicks says: Apr 9, 2012 12:53 PM

    sws222 says:
    Apr 9, 2012 12:37 PM
    nyyjetsknicks says: Apr 9, 2012 12:24 PM

    How about everyone over the age of 9 stops believing in fairytales.

    How about everyone respect their fellow American’s rights to worship or not worship as they see fit?

     _____________________

    Where did I say you shouldn’t be allowed to practice your religion?

    We aren’t much different. You rejected all of the other 10,000 gods man has created. I just took it a step further and rejected 10,001

  12. RavenzGunnerz says: Apr 9, 2012 12:54 PM

    Faith should really be a personal thing. #CommonSense

  13. destructicus says: Apr 9, 2012 12:56 PM

    … aaaaand the 10th Commandment labels jealousy a sin.

    Good job, buddy. Way to show that any of this should be taken seriously.

  14. shotgungrampa says: Apr 9, 2012 1:00 PM

    I dont believe in nyyjetsknicks

  15. tformation says: Apr 9, 2012 1:04 PM

    Isn’t jealousy a sin?

  16. snookau says: Apr 9, 2012 1:07 PM

    “How about everyone respect their fellow American’s rights to worship or not worship as they see fit?”

    ————-
    Exactly!

    So why is he telling people that this country needs to get “back to” the one nation under God 1950s mantra?

    Sounds like Timmy is trying to put religion in our government. Why isn’t he respecting my wish to not worship?

  17. thingamajig says: Apr 9, 2012 1:07 PM

    The real jealousy is the collection amount.

  18. klunge says: Apr 9, 2012 1:08 PM

    kidpresentable says:
    Apr 9, 2012 12:46 PM
    “First and foremost is what this country was based on: one nation under God.”

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…

    I don’t know, to me it seems an awful lot like the founding fathers wanted to keep government away from God and God away from the government. I mean, it’s right there in the FIRST amendment – the first thing mentioned. Seems like drawing a line in the sand between the two seemed pretty top-of-mind.
    ————————————————–

    It would seem that way, if you didn’t take into consideration who the founding fathers were (devoutly religious) and why most early settlers came here (religious minorities escaping persecution). The law’s specific intent is to guarantee government’s non-interference with people’s right to worship, not the other way around.
    That said, I don’t agree with church meddling in politics, and at the same time find it wildly hypocritical that the atheist crowd who continuously cries “1st Amendment!” to keep religious precepts out of policy making, are in fact using the same tactics to try to crush religion altogether. Nobody is above anyone else, they’re all trying to force their beliefs and lifestyles on everyone else. That, apparently, is the American Dream.

  19. dman6015 says: Apr 9, 2012 1:09 PM

    Evangelicals/Fundamentalists don’t give a rats patoot about a Roman Catholic Cardinal. The only reason they still put up with Catholics is the shared social conservatism. Remember, Timmys, the nation was founded as a Protestant nation, NOT a Christian nation. They make sure you know that. Good luck riding the pine this season, Timmy!

  20. nebster21 says: Apr 9, 2012 1:09 PM

    I am not one to quote the bible or anything like that but is he not coveting his neighbor’s crowd? Just saying

  21. metalhead65 says: Apr 9, 2012 1:15 PM

    how about you guys at pft accept the fact that despite what you think of him, that some people shockingly admire somebody like him him who despite all the ridicule he gets actually lives what he talks. he is not a “preacher” but just sharing his faith to people who share his beliefs and want to hear it. nobody is forcing you to listen or more importantly to report on it! stop writing about his every word and movement so you can quit whining about all the attention he gets. is it really his fault you guys in the media follow him around and report the same thing about him everyday. today Tim ate and gave thanks before and after was excited about it. and let’s bitch because he says excited allot instead of using some vulgarity or a word some p.c. cop finds offensive. but I guess excited offends you anti-Tebow people now right? look I do not even go to church but admire the guy for sticking up for what he believes in. so untill you find him with a hooker or getting busted like the athletes who do not live a straight edge lifestyle how about just letting the guy be?

  22. Deb says: Apr 9, 2012 1:20 PM

    Oh good grief! I go to the news for my politics and to church (three times a week) for my spiritual edification. Guess why I come to the football blog? It’s not to have the deification of Tim Tebow shoved down my throat. Can we please talk about The Game????

  23. jimbobobjr says: Apr 9, 2012 1:20 PM

    Tim Tebow’s arrival in New York means that Cardinal Timothy Dolan can no longer think of himself as the city’s most influential Christian leader.
    ————————————-
    Isn’t that position supposed to be reserved for Jesus?

  24. east96st says: Apr 9, 2012 1:21 PM

    I’m no fan of Tebow, but let’s give him credit where it’s due. He wasn’t part of concealing systematic child abuse for decades and then striking out at it’s victims. So, while I would chose to attend neither event, I find Tebow’s somewhat less hypocritical.

  25. philtration says: Apr 9, 2012 1:21 PM

    It is a strange world when an NFL QB in New York City is having less sex than the local clergy that is supposedly sworn to celibacy.

  26. hatesycophants says: Apr 9, 2012 1:22 PM

    Adrian Peterson donated $1,000,000.00 to his alma mater and got one story of coverage. A group of Hillfolk are bussed in to hear a dolt’s interpretation of “ancient” scriptures and you celebrity stalkers can’t stop writing about it.

    This whole thing has truly gone too far.

  27. ninerfan94954 says: Apr 9, 2012 1:24 PM

    Maybe the good Cardinal ought to stop mailing it in when it comes to the homily…aren’t Letterman’s writers off on weekends?

  28. agroal says: Apr 9, 2012 1:31 PM

    I think the Cardinal’s comments were tongue in cheek. As a former alter boy and current lapsed Catholic, I think that if the pedophile priests that the church protected and hid, as if in a game of 3 card monty, had kept their tongues off the cheeks of all those unfortunate child victims, my church would have so much more respect and credibility.

  29. wicky888 says: Apr 9, 2012 1:32 PM

    Isnt envy a sin?

  30. granadafan says: Apr 9, 2012 1:36 PM

    In Texas they love two things: Football and Church. No wonder a religious fanatic and celebrity like Tebow drew such big crowds in Texas.

    Tebow’s comments about “one nation under God” make me despair for this country as we slowly destroy the Separation of church and State each day. Every day, there are more and more laws passed by Congress and by states that are religious based.

  31. barrywhererufrom says: Apr 9, 2012 2:08 PM

    How about everyone over the age of 9 stops believing in fairytales. My point..What is this? A religion that has been around for thousands of years and this jackass is smarter then everyone else? And then we have this moron..In Texas they love two things: Football and Church. No wonder a religious fanatic and celebrity like Tebow drew such big crowds in Texas.

    Tebow’s comments about “one nation under God” make me despair for this country as we slowly destroy the Separation of church and State each day. Every day, there are more and more laws passed by Congress and by states that are religious based. My point.. Separation of Church and State only meant that we would NOT have a NATIONAL CHURCH OF THE US..What were the founders were against were religious persecution..what country were they from? England..you must of missed History class that day…But of course you didnt miss the ACLU driven war on religion in your classroom..get a clue..and finally..Perhaps the cardinal might enjoy bigger crowds if he attended to religion instead of politics. It could be argued that the Cardinal has not said enough about the President and his war against the Church. Making a religious body go against its teachings is something that its leaders must stand against. Sorry if you dont that..

  32. stew48 says: Apr 9, 2012 2:14 PM

    Dear granadafan,

    Please inquire about reading comprehension classes so that you might improve your understanding of the written and spoken word.

  33. csszrr says: Apr 9, 2012 2:17 PM

    You think the good cardinal went and anger banged one of his favorite altar boys?

    Also, you all need to stop talking history b/c it is MORE than obvious that none of you has read anything credible or scholarly on the period in question. I mean whoever claimed they were devoutly religious is hopeful thinking. As for the jackwagon who sais they wanted to completely separate religion and gov’t, you are a boob. My advice is to read and not get your info from the History Channel. Better yet leave the history to the historians.

  34. snookau says: Apr 9, 2012 2:28 PM

    It would seem that way, if you didn’t take into consideration who the founding fathers were (devoutly religious)

    =============

    Then why is there no mention of GOD in the Constitution? The religious kooks can’t seem to answer that one.

  35. beaverdam21 says: Apr 9, 2012 2:31 PM

    I think Ndanamong Suh for Detroit gave $2 million to his alma mater after his rookie year, and I didn’t see much about that.

  36. rushmatic says: Apr 9, 2012 2:34 PM

    LOL Religion. Happy belated Zombie Jesus Day to all.

  37. melikefootball says: Apr 9, 2012 2:44 PM

    Is this an odd concept..a Cardinal is Jealous of another human???

  38. nyjalleffingday says: Apr 9, 2012 2:49 PM

    @klunge

    In the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli it was written that the United States was “not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” The founding fathers were mostly deists. They believed in a creator of the universe, but not the Christian version of this God. The whole purpose of the first amendment was to make sure that the United States government never claimed an official religion the way Britain had. The only real “devoutly religious” founding father was John Jay.

  39. jaltreality says: Apr 9, 2012 2:57 PM

    I’ll listen to any and all discussions about the existence of the Christian notion of God, so long as you listen to any and all discussions about the possibility that it is mere mythology, as has been repeated in human history time and time again.

    I respect everyone’s opinions. If you can convince me, I am open to it. But just saying “you have to have faith” doesn’t work. Everyone has faith, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, etc.

  40. iluvwikileaks says: Apr 9, 2012 2:57 PM

    Too bad Timmy is not 10 years old anymore. The Cardinal could play with his little dinger:)

  41. hailskins4life says: Apr 9, 2012 3:03 PM

    For anyone who thinks our founding fathers set this nation up with ANY religious affiliation, let me point out a few things…

    1. ‘In God We Trust’ was NOT the motto or slogan of the country until the 50′s. It was not on the money until President Lincoln’s treasury secretary added it during the Civil War.

    2. ‘One Nation Under God’ was NOT in the original pledge of allegiance. It was added during the 50′s.

    3. Other than NO/NONE/ZERO mention of religion in the Constitution, the biggest and most glaring point as to the feelings of our founding fathers comes from the ‘Treaty of Tripoli’ which was signed into law June 10, 1797.
    Article 11 states:
    ‘As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.’
    This was unanimously ratified by congress and signed into law (the constitution states that Treaties are to be considered the Supreme Law of the land) by President John Adams.

  42. unomasmore says: Apr 9, 2012 3:14 PM

    This country was founded, and the laws established, by great Christian men. These great Christian men had the wisdom to separate church and state and make laws securing the right for you to worship how you please.

    If any feel they are not allowed to do this, I would like to know.

    Now, the fact that this country is now not run by great Christian men, well how is that working out for us? I know our Founders gave us a great shove off, but that can’t carry us forever…

    Especially when we actively seek to destroy these foundations.

  43. scoobyusn says: Apr 9, 2012 3:18 PM

    Tim is bad man. He does bad things.
    Yours Truly,
    Donte Stallworth

  44. westclaims says: Apr 9, 2012 3:19 PM

    This guy is only in the NFL to promote his religious bs. His goal? To be the next Joel Olsteen. It is not to be the next great QB.

  45. tfbuckfutter says: Apr 9, 2012 3:26 PM

    I’m sure the ratio of people who went for the actual sermon vs those who just went to see a celebrity is still better than his ratio of completions to passes.

  46. phinfan says: Apr 9, 2012 3:45 PM

    Wow. That’s it, plow down the Bronx and build a Tim Tebows Bibleland.

  47. klunge says: Apr 9, 2012 3:47 PM

    nyjalleffingday says:
    Apr 9, 2012 2:49 PM
    In the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli it was written that the United States was “not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” The founding fathers were mostly deists. They believed in a creator of the universe, but not the Christian version of this God. The whole purpose of the first amendment was to make sure that the United States government never claimed an official religion the way Britain had. The only real “devoutly religious” founding father was John Jay.
    ————————————————–
    If you want to split hairs, I’ll grant you all the trivia you can dig up & quote. Their concept of one God was based on the Bible, as are their principles of justice, and giving people the freedom to act autonomously but only within acceptable boundaries without harming others.
    Deism is still opposite atheism, which is attempting to stamp out the notion or mention of God, and wants to destroy even those principles by which we once successfully lived in order to destroy all traces.
    Say anything you like, the proof is in the downward spiral of society & it boggles me that people can think that either nothing’s happening or that this is “progress.”

  48. freddiekroger01 says: Apr 9, 2012 3:52 PM

    From the Declaration of Independence:

    “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s GOD entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights…”

    Hmmmm…I guess the guys that wrote this just flippantly used GOD and CREATOR. And in the 1st amendment to the Constitution do you notice they put religious freedom FIRST, ahead of freedom of speech…HMMM…I wonder why? Oh that’s right, they were all athiests so they probably threw a bone to the ‘religious right’ of their day…give me a break…

    Jeeesh…all this hysteria because Tim Teebow talks about Jesus on EASTER? Are you serious?

  49. hailskins4life says: Apr 9, 2012 4:14 PM

    @freddiekroger01

    You are aware that the Declaration of Independence has no bearing on the laws of this country, right? It was a letter…declaring our independence.

    Nobody has claimed the founding fathers were atheists. Most have rightly pointed out that they were deists. There is a big difference.

    And the reason they put Freedom of Religion FIRST is because it was most important to them. To guarantee that each citizen could practice whatever religion they wanted to and for the government to not make a stand for OR against any religion.

    The reason most people take issue with what Tebow said is that his notion that ‘One Nation Under God’ was the basis of this country has no basis in factual evidence.

    Why is that hard to understand?

  50. nyjalleffingday says: Apr 9, 2012 4:45 PM

    @freddiekroger01

    Yawn, we’ve gone over this, they were deists, and the mention of a creator and a god doesn’t infer Christianity. It could mean Zeus if the reader wanted it to. Logic never is a strong suit for most theists, I suppose. The United States is not a Christian nation, this is not an opinion, this is a fact.

  51. raquelma9 says: Apr 9, 2012 4:47 PM

    did the cardinal forget about “thou shall not covet”? thank god for tebow to remind him once again

  52. freddiekroger01 says: Apr 9, 2012 4:54 PM

    @hail It’s not difficult to understand at all.

    But please, people take 1 sentence (1 freaking sentence) from a speech and have kanipshin fit and then try to deny the religious heritage of this country (Deists versus Christian versus whatever – who the freak cares). My goodness.

    I think we all need to take a deep breath and lighten up a bit…but for whatever , people either love Tebow or hate him. And those that hate him, will take the smallest of crumb and make it sound like the end of the world…

    “Tebow said ‘One nation under God’ and that didn’t happen till the 20 century…whaa…whaa.” Please, this is just rediculous …

  53. freddiekroger01 says: Apr 9, 2012 5:24 PM

    @nyjalle

    Bwahahahaaaaa…Yep, “One nation under Zeus…”

    That’s exactly what they meant…and the Bible and Judeo-Christian God had nothing to do with the founding of this nation….zip, zero, nada…you
    are right…excuse me for intruding on your version of reality….

    Amazing what they are teaching in public schools these days…

  54. hailskins4life says: Apr 9, 2012 5:29 PM

    @freddie

    For the record, I don’t hate Tebow. Quite the opposite. I don’t think he is a very good quarterback but as a man, he is top-notch. His charitable givings are something that more people with money and/or power should strive to emulate.

    My only beef is with the crossover from his religious views into politics. That is something that I believe is dividing this country in half and worthy of having a ‘kanipshin’ fit over.

  55. freddiekroger01 says: Apr 9, 2012 5:40 PM

    @hail

    I don’t like it when religious bigots and limousine liberals crossover into politics, but it’s something I have to live with given the freedom this country offers to EVERY citizen.

    Whether we like it or not, that’s the way it goes.

    If people can deny someone of faith (Tebow) talking about politics, they can deny anyone and that my friend comprises a good chunk of this planet.

    I thank God for the freedoms we have in this country…

  56. hailskins4life says: Apr 9, 2012 5:48 PM

    @freddie

    Couldn’t agree more. I hate it when sports stars, musicians, actors etc. spout off on politics. I don’t think I was ever saying to deny him his right for free speech. I may disagree with what he has to say but I will defend his right to say it.

  57. exhelodrvr says: Apr 9, 2012 7:18 PM

    A lot of you apparently don’t realize that the Constitution was not ratified until 1788 – 12 years after the Declaration of Independence. So it is NOT inaccurate to say that documents from the founding of the nation referenced the involvement of a deity.

  58. tatum064 says: Apr 10, 2012 7:49 AM

    nyyjetsknicks says:
    Apr 9, 2012 12:24 PM
    How about everyone over the age of 9 stops believing in fairytales.

    ===========

    Pal, the minute the Knicks win in an NBA Final, you’ll be the first one praising God.

  59. tatum064 says: Apr 10, 2012 7:54 AM

    snookau says:
    Apr 9, 2012 12:31 PM
    “First and foremost is what this country was based on: one nation under God. The more that we can get back to that.” – Tebow from his talk on Sunday

    Shows how bright this guy is. “One Nation Under God” isn’t anywhere in our nations founding documents. Its in the Pledge of Allegiance. And it wasn’t added to that until the 1950s. Moron.

    Stick to the football, Timmy.

    ================

    God isn’t mentioned, but come on; “All men are created equal” You swear on a Bible when you are in a court case, all public officials swear an oath as well.

    Its clear there is a separation of church and state, but clearly the founders intended God’s law rule man in the manner of equality for all.

    Why people play these games with semantics is beyond me. Isn’t it obvious with the wars, misery, racism, poverty and hopelessness that Tebow is suggesting a return to a better way of belief and living..why is that so hard for people to understand?

  60. tatum064 says: Apr 10, 2012 8:01 AM

    hatesycophants says:
    Apr 9, 2012 1:22 PM
    Adrian Peterson donated $1,000,000.00 to his alma mater and got one story of coverage. A group of Hillfolk are bussed in to hear a dolt’s interpretation of “ancient” scriptures and you celebrity stalkers can’t stop writing about it.

    This whole thing has truly gone too far.

    ===============

    So contributing money to an equally corrupt and deceitful NCAA system which covers up cheating, sex scandals and recruiting violations trumps a guy just talking about faith on Easter Sunday (virtually ignored by most people other than the odd Easter egg hunt for kids?)

    A dolt practices faith with his fellow christians?

  61. guypatsfan says: Apr 10, 2012 9:27 AM

    klunge says: Apr 9, 2012 3:47 PM

    If you want to split hairs, I’ll grant you all the trivia you can dig up & quote. Their concept of one God was based on the Bible, as are their principles of justice, and giving people the freedom to act autonomously but only within acceptable boundaries without harming others.
    Deism is still opposite atheism, which is attempting to stamp out the notion or mention of God, and wants to destroy even those principles by which we once successfully lived in order to destroy all traces.
    Say anything you like, the proof is in the downward spiral of society & it boggles me that people can think that either nothing’s happening or that this is “progress.”
    —————————————————-
    Obviously you know nothing about atheism, what it means and what it stands for. Go out and learn the truth about it, then report back, instead of spouting out lies and halftruths.

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