Greg Williams admitted that he ran a bounty program, so shut your mouth and don’t make yourself look anymore stupid than you already are.

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He admitted a “Pay for Performance” program. That’s the thing. It’s not a bounty program, and that’s why this whole thing is out of control. No one was taking out guys. And explain why when ESPN shows highlights during their “bountygate” talk that they show nothing but clean hits (except for the one high/low on Favre).

Again–the “media spin machine” in action: Bountygate sounds way better than “Pay For Performance”Gate.

But now this post is a half day old and no one cares anymore. The spin was effective.

It’s like when you punish your kid for throwing rocks at cars with his friends and he says, “But I wasn’t throwing rocks, the other kids were!!” By trying to shift blame and not taking responsibility, the child shows he has not learned the important lesson and sees nothing wrong with his actions. Most parents increase the punishment in order to drive those lessons home, because what’s most important is for the child to take responsibility and see that he’s just as guilty for being PART of the problem. I don’t want to hear why it wasn’t your fault, or that you didn’t do it. You got caught. It’s too late to point fingers. If you really thought it was wrong, you should not have been part of it, but you were – so now you get the punishment. Most children learn this lesson around 9-10 years old, but apparently, Drew Brees and Malcom Jenkins did not.

Honestly, the Saints fans and players would do well to just shut up and act like you’re taking responsibility. All you do by opening your mouth is strengthen public opinion that your team and fans are a bunch of Grade-A dbags and low-lifes.

3 years, 50,000 pages of documents and Williams admitted it. OK…now explain. Your sense of entitlement is showing…again.

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admitted what?

Just google Scott Fujita’s cheap shot on Steve Smith. The Saints dirty play per-dates Gregg Williams. It started when Payton arrived.
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Or you could google Steve Smiths cheap shot on Ken Lucas…..

Favre was knocked out of the game momentarily by a hit that was illegal and resulted in a fine. He had $10k on his “head” during that game. So I wouldn’t say that you are totally accurate there.

And just because they weren’t very good at hurting guys doesn’t make it okay. They paid incentives for things other than hits, outside of the CBA, often using 3rd party money. That is cheating the CBA and at its core is the main reason their getting fined.

I think we all understand that NFL players are nasty, D coordinators train their guys to maim, and players will take a shot at the QB when they have a chance. The key thing here, and where the Saints crossed the line, is that they paid their players money specifically for this. The icing on the cake is then lying about it and continuing to do it after being told not to.

In reality very few players are injured by illegal hits. QB concussions and the occasional WR over the middle, but other than that most injuries are legal. The Saints tried hard to change that and now have to pay the piper.

To summarize a very long interesting story, he placed 100% of the blame on Gregg Williams and none on the players. He said this situation is very similar to a sexual harassment case, where the victim and witnesses keep quiet for fear of losing their jobs. He confirmed that Brees and Payton were not in the defensive meeting during this audio and that Gregg Williams had total control over the defense. He mentions the character of specific players and does not believe they were involved to the extent spoken in the press.

Anyway, it is worth a read, especially for the author of this article.

Let me recap: coaches giving illegal bonuses for hits that cause injury = bad. Players hitting other players legally = good.

The only players you hear talking are the ones that didn’t take part in potentially felonious activities.

Taking out a guy’s knee in an NFL game, even on purpose. Legal. Taking out another guy’s knee, and receiving a large sum of money to do so by a 3rd party while not claiming the funds on your IRS, hella illegal.

The law is a funny thing. One tiny detail can make something go from legal to jail time in a snap. Guys who aren’t sure should continue to keep their mouths shut until the statute of limitations has expired to be safe.

Let’s just play some football, people.

How ridiculous to announce that you can’t say anything, when you can!

That would be ZERO.

The Saints were responsible for knocking out of games so many players with illegal hits over the last three years…….

That would be ZERO.

Every Saints player should come out and state as a group, “I never took ANY “bounty” money for an ilegal hit on a player that resulted in injury or a player being knocked out of a game”.

Pretty easy thing for them to say, except they don’t even have to say it, because it never happened. Nobody was hurt or knocked out of a game due to an illegal hit by the Saints Defense for the last three years combined. It is a FACT that has basically been ignored. The Saints deserved a penalty for possibly lying about the program, the players did absolutely nothing wrong. Not a single play over the last three years resulted in injury as a result of an illegal hit. What are you going to do, fine or suspend players for LEGAL HITS???

Do not know why you’re so afraid of what I say but I’ve never cursed, written anything not “politically correct” or anything that’d normally have a comment removed HOWEVER true to form this site won’t post it!! Correction, you’re slipping, you let it stay up long enough for me to have proof – HA

Gist of the post Florio removed was: Saints aren’t doing anything other teams haven’t, GODdell’s punishment is childish/punitive AND Florio needs to cut out his smart alec comments about the Saints!!

…bet this comment never sees the light of day either Florio