Too funny. Probably why you are no longer an attorney.

1. GW admits there was a bount program and apologizes for it.

2. He take no action to appeal the suspension (hmmm).

3. The evidence the league had did not include this audio sooooooo, no nothing really changes.

4. When the Saints had the opportunity (and they had it 2 years ago), to do the right thing and get rid of the program, they lied and kept it going (sorry, Payton knew about. Period). So if the man knew about it and kept it going, how is he innocent?

I know this will probably fall on deaf ears, but here’s to hoping there are some reasonable Saints fans out there.

Knew about the problem but didnt do anything until it was time to generate publicity….sounds like the commish with the entire concussion process. Didnt say or do amything to help until it was obvious lawsuits were coming.

This whole article reminds me of every peter king piece: a mouthpiece for supporting goodell.

Goodell only wants what Pamphilon has, so Goodell can destroy all the evidence, just like he did with the evidence with that other sorry team of cheaters. I would be more interested in getting Goodell’s plans for ruining the game exposed before a congressional committee, than to have Pamphilon delivering the “goods” in his possession.

The beauty of it is, though, Goodell will never be able to destroy the audio, because it wikll always be available and many people have copies of it. This, I love, becasue I know it just eats at Goodell’s craw, and that’s a GOOD thing.

Who cares????
BOTTOM LINE: He did the right thing by releasing the audio.
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Why didn’t he just send the audio to the NFL? Why release it to the general public? The answer is pretty obvious: he’s selling a book and betrayed Gleason’s trust to get some publicity.

Huh? The tapes do not belong to the NFL? Why should he hand them over? The NFL destroyed the spygate tapes before anyone could see what was really on them. If they wernt a big deal they would have released those.

If Pamphilon didnt release this audio it never would have been heard.

Mike you need to cool off, you are getting way too hot and bothered during your Peter King sponge baths.

You both do the same thing.

You document the NFL with the ultimate goal of financial compensation.

Who cares what Pamphilons’ motivations were/are? It doesnt change what was said on the tapes. Many people, who were dead fast Saint supporters completely changed their tune once the tapes were released.

That’s all that matters.

Hell never see the inside of a locker room again.

I’m also ambivalent about Pamphilon’s motives. It just seems that his relationship with Gleason may have complicated his timing, so he does have a plausible story. Regardless, I agree that now that the cat is out of the bag, he’s milking it for sure.

Regardless, the real story here will be the effect of the tapes on the a coercion theory that the NFLPA and players will no doubt use to minimize penalties. The Napoleonic Code in Louisiana muddles things, but in principal, it’s the same as civil law. Employment law and coercion of employees will also be huge in the players defense.

Also, it’s ironic that the tapes may actually help the players and Saints (since the coaches were doomed anyway and tapes could avoid losing players to suspension). I think the recent hiring of Fulbright and Jaworski means the NFLPA is positioning itself for a donnybrook with the NFL on suspensions. The civil and employment law on this one favors the players.

The idea that he has a comparable duty to give those tapes over to the NFL is laughable. The NFL is a corporation…why should Pamphilon just assume that they’re gonna do the right thing?

Don’t blame the messenger.

To begin with, I’ve heard the same “he was Gleason’s guest” argument made by Peter King, and I just don’t get it. Maybe it’s because I don’t make a living based off of leaks or special access, but when it comes to letting the public know when something serious is going on, what does it matter how you got your access? If you’re following the same line of arguments you and Mr. King make, the question remains: exactly how bad would the circumstances have to be before you no longer care about how you got your access?

Secondly, at least part of the delay has to do with Gleason’s desire to not publicize the recordings. Their arrangement allowed either party to release material, but Pamphilon supposedly tried and failed to get Gleason to agree with the release. When that failed, Pamphilon and Gleason engaged an arbitrator who eventually told Pamphilon to go ahead and release the recording. If that actually happened, then it’s a process that would take some time, and it’s not like years passed between the recording and the release. The recording took place right before the Saints-49ers playoff game at the end of this latest season.

Finally, I don’t know what real claim the NFL would have. Pamphilon was not there as a part of NFL films or any other branch of the NFL. His deal was with Gleason alone. Gleason was invited into the defensive meeting and brought Pamphilon with him. In this case, the NFL’s authority seems limited to access. They knowingly let him inside, and they knowingly let him record the proceedings. He wasn’t hiding in a locker with a spycam. So, unless he signed something before he entered the room that forbid him from publicizing anything he saw or heard (hard to imagine since he was filming a documentary), then the NFL has no claim to his work. The one thing the NFL could do I expect is ask the court to grant them access to Pamphilon’s recordings in order to help them complete their internal investigation. I’m not a lawyer, so I really don’t know how that would work since we’re talking about a private company performing it’s own internal investigation rather than an official governmental investigation. Either way, that would simply give the NFL access to a copy of Pamphilon’s recordings. We’re certainly not going to see a destruction of the tapes like we have in the past.

Like almost everyone else discussing this issue, I don’t know Pamphilon, nor do I know his true motives. Only Pamphilon really knows that. If I had to guess, I’d probably guess that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Having read both Michael Silver’s and Peter King’s reporting on the issue, I’d have to figure that he released the audio primarily because he was bothered by what he saw and heard. Did he also hope to garner some attention for his project? Most likely. He did self-finance the project, and I’m sure after all that work he’d like for his project to be profitable. Either way, I really don’t care. Pamphilon’s motives aren’t an issue for me. The only real issue in my opinion is what Pamphilon discovered and was able to get on tape.

Forget the side players and watch the NFL try to right the ship in the most transparent manner it can live with. They have no choice as there are politicians and lawyers chompin’ at the bit to help fix the problems.