Jonathan Vilma expects two to eight game suspension

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Jonathan Vilma is still waiting to hear about his punishment for his role in the Saints bounty program and, according to a report on Monday, he thinks it is going to be fairly severe.

Jason La Canfora of NFL.com reports that a source close to Vilma said that the linebacker is bracing for a suspension of two to eight games when the league decides to hand down their decision. Because Vilma was the only player named in the NFL’s initial report about the bounties, the belief is that he will be suspended for at least the low end of that estimate.

The NFLPA’s statement about the league’s failure to provide detailed evidence of a “pay-to-injure scheme” could become part of any action against Vilma. The allegation about Vilma putting up $10,000 to any player who could knock Brett Favre out of the NFC Championship Game is damning, but a fight over whether there is direct evidence of such a scheme could wind up working out well for Vilma’s attempt to avoid a long suspension.

For their part, the Saints seem content to move on without Vilma. They’ve signed Curtis Lofton and David Hawthorne as free agents, leaving no clear role for Vilma on the New Orleans defense whenever he is available to resume playing.

49 responses to “Jonathan Vilma expects two to eight game suspension

  1. Now why on earth would he expect any kind of suspension when the NFLPA says there isn’t any evidence???

  2. “We see the Bounty Bunch is quite keen on linebackers this year, and so are we. We’ll give you Casey Matthews for Vilma & a 2014 2nd round pick…. trololololol.”

    – Howie Roseman

  3. Coach suspensions should be based on the conspiracy evidence. They organized an illegal program, financed it with outside money that cheated the salary cap, ignored direct orders from the team owner and the league, urged players to go for the head at a time when the league was under fire from Congress and trying to avoid concussion litigation, and repeatedly lied to league investigators.

    But I feel a little differently about the players. I’m not in any way condoning what they did … but they were following their coaches’ orders. It seems game film should play a significant role in their punishment. Did they engage in illegal hits? If so, then fine/suspend them based on the film rather than their coaches’ conspiracy.

  4. You would think that he would get the most of any player from what we have all seen and read so far which to me comes out something like Peyton if not like Williams.

    I say a season but making the team take the salary that he was going to make and force some of that to be donated to research and or causes that help the victims.

  5. yeah just like payton was expecting half a season. good luck with that. shut your blabber mouth and prepare to be hammered by the commish. go club some baby seals during your 2 year suspension.

  6. jenniferxxx says: Apr 16, 2012 4:14 PM

    I’m sure he’s innocent of any wrong doing.
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    Since no one outside of Roger Goodell’s office has seen any evidence – including the NFLPA – He just might be.

    But I know one thing, even if he were, it would not matter to either the league or PFT.

  7. how many games did the saints’ D win for them last year? seems like they could trot out a bunch of practice squad players and the offense would keep them in most games. could the suspensions of certain defensive players actually make the saints more rested and potent for the playoffs?

  8. Deb says:
    Apr 16, 2012 4:43 PM
    Coach suspensions should be based on the conspiracy evidence. They organized an illegal program, financed it with outside money that cheated the salary cap, ignored direct orders from the team owner and the league, urged players to go for the head at a time when the league was under fire from Congress and trying to avoid concussion litigation, and repeatedly lied to league investigators.

    But I feel a little differently about the players. I’m not in any way condoning what they did … but they were following their coaches’ orders. It seems game film should play a significant role in their punishment. Did they engage in illegal hits? If so, then fine/suspend them based on the film rather than their coaches’ conspiracy.

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    Totally different situation but using the same structure of orders being sent down to prove the point. When they prosecute for war crimes it doesnt matter if a soldier says he was just following orders, he is still a free thinking human being that made the choices to proceed with their actions and should be punished accordingly. Sure the general or whomever sent the orders down probably gets punished more severely but in Vilmas case no one put a gun to his or any of his teammates heads and made them do this. The participated willingly and most likely encouraged it as well.

  9. He’s definitely not getting two games. Eight is more like it. He should be suspended for the season

  10. “Totally different situation but using the same structure of orders being sent down to prove the point. When they prosecute for war crimes it doesnt matter if a soldier says he was just following orders, he is still a free thinking human being that made the choices to proceed with their actions and should be punished accordingly. Sure the general or whomever sent the orders down probably gets punished more severely but in Vilmas case no one put a gun to his or any of his teammates heads and made them do this. The participated willingly and most likely encouraged it as well.”
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    If the soldier in said war-crime never actually committed the crime, is he still on the hook? If he intended, but did commit, would the punishment be as bad?

    As a Saints fan, I am sure Vilma and some others were involved, but the reasonable doubt is starting to loom pretty strong, and if Goodell tries to drop the hammer too hard, he’s gonna open a can of worms that could end up way worse for him than the players.

    Imagine you are a player suspended. You didn’t do anything wrong, at least there is no proof whatsoever. What keeps you from suing the NFL for lost wages? Would no evidence hold up in court?

  11. Meet the new power forward for your New Orleans Hornets! He’ll be the guy to get five hard fouls, his pay will be dependent on how many players he hurts.

  12. @chaser44 …

    I agree with you–but you’ve got to have evidence of the crime. The NFL has evidence that Saints coaches organized an illegal program, took outside money that bypassed the salary cap, told players to break the rules by targeting the head, ignored direct orders from their owner and the league, and lied to investigators. They deserved their punishments.

    But does Goodell have evidence that players actually attempted to injure other players by performing at a different level than any other players in the league? That’s why I’m saying he has to rely on game film to determine the players’ punishments. No matter what the coaches intended, the league can only punish the players for what they actually did. And only the game film will verify that.

  13. dtrb10 says: Apr 16, 2012 5:07 PM

    I hope some offensive lineman blindsides this punk and knocks him out for the year or for good!!!!
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    And then the lineman will be suspended for intent to injure. Hell, then you might be named in the lawsuit vilma files, because you “asked” the lineman to do it. Your wishing injury on a player is no better than what these guys are accused of. Football “fans” like you are a joke.

    This entire bountygate garbage is a joke. Goodell is only trying to cover the league’s ass from these lawsuits. When/if the players decide to fight any suspensions, the league will get more trouble than they anticipated.

  14. All these comments on how hard we should punish the Saints players and coaches reminds me of a Mark Twain quote ” nothing so needs reforming as other people’s habits” … All of us are guilty of similar things the Saints have done. Any one who has participated in the Superbowl pool, placed friendly wager among friends, or anyway shape or form has kicked in money for a sports prediction is guilty. Cue the self-righteous rebuttals

  15. chaser44

    Dude this isn’t Nuremberg its football! Football players are not soldiers. The Saints did not commit anymore penalties or injure anymore players than the rest of the league. There is a disconnect between what was said and what the players did of the field. My view is no punishment is needed for anyone involved including Greg Williams.

  16. You can write 1,000 stories about this “bounty” scandel, but you will never escape one simple truth:

    Over a three year period, NOT ONE SINGLE PLAYER was injured by the Saints Defense as a result of an illegal hit. NOT ONE!

  17. Deb, your missing one point. The league likely has evidence (Williams’ testimony) that Vilma not only participated (which your game film idea would determine), but also promoted via offering his own $10k bounty.

  18. After listening to Drew Brees, I say suspend him for a year or more, and suspend Vilma too for that long.

  19. sfsaintsfan says:
    You can write 1,000 stories about this “bounty” scandel, but you will never escape one simple truth: Over a three year period, NOT ONE SINGLE PLAYER was injured by the Saints Defense as a result of an illegal hit. NOT ONE!
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    That’s an important distinction when talking about player punishments, but it’s irrelevant regarding the coaches. They still ran an illegal program, cheated the salary cap, and lied to the league.

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    guppies66 says:
    Deb, your missing one point. The league likely has evidence (Williams’ testimony) that Vilma not only participated (which your game film idea would determine), but also promoted via offering his own $10k bounty.
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    If the league can prove Vilma offered that bounty, I’d put him in the same boat with the coaches.

  20. sfsaintsfan says:
    You can write 1,000 stories about this “bounty” scandel, but you will never escape one simple truth: Over a three year period, NOT ONE SINGLE PLAYER was injured by the Saints Defense as a result of an illegal hit. NOT ONE!

    Saints players shouldn’t be punished for their bounty program because they didn’t execute the game plan as well as they hoped to? Are you seriously arguing this? Seriously?

    Let me get this right, with your argument, a punk wouldn’t be guilty of killing the guy in the green shirt if he was really aiming at the guy in the blue shirt and just missed, right?

  21. Offering up his own money & being an apparent ringleader in all this puts him right next to Gregg Williams. Suspension should be ‘indefinite’. 1 full season w/o pay at the very least. Let Vilma & Williams go submit fast food applications together.

  22. The NFL is not a court of law. Nothing has to be “proven”. There is 1 judge, 1 jury, 1 person to listen to appeals, and 1 person to rule on those appeals. They just all happen to be the same person.

  23. Many jealous haters….such a pity….what will you do when the Saints raise their second Lombardi as SB champs this year? Complain to Goddell? Lmao….non-Saints fans are such bottom feeders….

  24. If Vilma is expecting 4-8 game suspension then maybe Brees should go ask Vilma for “an explanation” of why? Oh maybe he can’t ask him, the Taints* used Vilma and then tossed him out with the rest of their garbage.

  25. they wont miss him, he hasnt been good since he left the jets, i didnt even know he still played, to tell u the truth

  26. Sure…just two lashes please! That is trying to plant an idea in Goodell’s head will not work….He will get 8-12 games! plus he sux! and so do the aints….

    get the bags ready aints fans

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