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Vikings stadium faces big test tonight

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Despite plenty of false optimism but no real leverage, the effort to build a new Vikings stadium could be derailed, again, on Monday night.

According to Mike Kaszuba of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the proposal will go before the House Government Operations and Elections Committee.  It’s chaired by Rep. Joyce Peppin, who has said she favors a public vote on a new stadium.  (In other words, she doesn’t favor the current proposal.)  If the proposal somehow emerges from the Committee, which has 15 members (nine of whom are Republicans), a full vote of the House of Representatives could happen soon.

The proposal has emerged successfully from two other House committees.  No Senate committee has taken action on the measure.

The Vikings’ lease at the Metrodome has expired, but the Vikings did not file notice with the NFL of an intention to relocate before the annual February 15 deadline.  The team, the Governor, the Mayor of Minneapolis, and key legislative leaders have reached an agreement on a plan for a new stadium, but until it is approved by the Legislature and the Minneapolis City Council, nothing can happen.

Other than the Vikings moving.

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47 Responses to “Vikings stadium faces big test tonight”
  1. jutts says: Apr 16, 2012 1:22 PM

    The Los Angeles Vikings…..

  2. fngs1 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:23 PM

    I don’t know whats worse, this or Rex Ryan guarantee of a SB win. Just build the thing.

  3. artvan15 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:23 PM

    Move them to Norway!!!!

  4. suhnum1fan says: Apr 16, 2012 1:28 PM

    Send em to L.A

  5. mvp43 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:28 PM

    Any proposal that includes a tax increase should go to a public vote…I mean that’s a no brainer, isn’t it?

  6. blacknole08 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:32 PM

    If the Twins can get approved for a new stadium (beautiful stadium at that), then the Vikings should have no trouble getting one.

  7. mervsvikes says: Apr 16, 2012 1:34 PM

    It’s times like these that I realize democracy can be a sham. Part of me wants them to leave though. It’s the only legit way for me to stop cheering for those losers and pick a new team.

  8. rollteal says: Apr 16, 2012 1:35 PM

    Stop with the rumors about teams moving until it happens.

  9. JohnnyTwoTimes says says: Apr 16, 2012 1:35 PM

    At least they already have those Lakers colors….

  10. Peter Venkman says: Apr 16, 2012 1:42 PM

    12 men in the huddle.

  11. patsaintsbroncoscheat says: Apr 16, 2012 1:43 PM

    If the proposal somehow emerges from the Committee, which has 15 members (nine of whom are Republicans), a full vote of the House of Representatives could happen soon.
    _____________________________
    Are you inferring that Republicans are more or less likely to vote for this thing?

    Do not take the vikings away!

  12. Peter Venkman says: Apr 16, 2012 1:43 PM

    Gary Anderson missed FG. A stadium is needed to keep these classic moments going!

  13. clintonportisheadd says: Apr 16, 2012 1:44 PM

    This IS a real test.

    You have the Chairman saying the right thing (put it to a public referendum) and is daring the 14 others on the committee to vote for a taxpayer giveaway. Those 14 know that vote would likely mean political suicide in their next election as the Tea Party AND the OWS types target them.

    Who you got your money on? The people or the elites?

  14. purplehayseuss says: Apr 16, 2012 1:45 PM

    Nice move, Mike. Stir That Pot! Stir That Pot! Nobody can really say anything about this albatross that hasn’t been said.

    The usual onslaught of pros and cons will arrive. Lovers and haters.

  15. brownicus says: Apr 16, 2012 1:47 PM

    It will get done. Its going to keep getting slowed by all of these political agendas, but it will eventually get done in MN.

  16. bchapman2011 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:49 PM

    It’s amazing how slowly the wheels grind on things like this. What you have is a bunch of people who think they are a-lot smarter than they actually are and overthink the situation.
    Either build the stadium or dont. Either move the team or don’t. Quit draging your feet and holding everybody hostage and make a decision………Sorry I am from Los Angeles and having gone through the same thing for 20 years I can feel Minnesota residents frustrations.

  17. richkotitte says: Apr 16, 2012 1:51 PM

    Like the Jets and Giants, the Viks and Jags can share a posh new stadium in LA!

  18. ode2jay says: Apr 16, 2012 1:54 PM

    So Minneapolis threw a fit when Arden hills was gonna build the stadium and now they have to back it up …. what’s that saying about “cake”?

  19. damnyoulinelliot says: Apr 16, 2012 1:54 PM

    Is that a pic of a proposed stadium in downtown Minneapolis or Los Angeles?

  20. das14 says: Apr 16, 2012 1:58 PM

    Minnesota, land of 10000 delays.

  21. chawk12thman says: Apr 16, 2012 1:59 PM

    Why wouldn’t there be an extension of the current lease? Even if it passed, there would be no way to get it built in time for the season. That assumes you don’t have to do any enviromental studies, traffic studies, etc……

    Has this franchise been slated for a move by the owner?

    This is a traditional NFL Team that needs to stay put.

  22. purplehayseuss says: Apr 16, 2012 2:04 PM

    mervsvikes says: Apr 16, 2012 1:34 PM

    It’s times like these that I realize democracy can be a sham. Part of me wants them to leave though. It’s the only legit way for me to stop cheering for those losers and pick a new team.

    ***
    Why not just decide now and go the hell away. Post on a different team’s page.

    QUIT cheering for the Minnesota Vikings. Go be a Negative Nancy for someone else.

  23. vikings1979 says: Apr 16, 2012 2:07 PM

    mvp43 says:
    Apr 16, 2012 1:28 PM
    Any proposal that includes a tax increase should go to a public vote…I mean that’s a no brainer, isn’t it?

    ___________________________________
    I don’t believe the proposal includes raising taxes but instead involves redirecting existing taxes being used on the convention center for the city’s share and electronic pulltabs for the state’s share. This is why the mayor of Minneapolis and the governor don’t believe a vote is required.

  24. mnomalley says: Apr 16, 2012 2:16 PM

    Whats really going on here (from someone from MN who reads up on this daily) we have a bunch of spineless politicians here (Dem., and Rep.) that don’t want to vote on this “hard vote” until after the reelections later this year becuase it might hurt they’re chances of being reelected. Its called the status quo, and there is far too much of it within our government.

  25. purplekoolaid1 says: Apr 16, 2012 2:21 PM

    Who cares anymore? It was a semi-interesting topic the first 10 times a story was posted about it. Now that we are on story #350 about this topic, I don’t care anymore.

    Either get the deal done or don’t.

  26. rgledz says: Apr 16, 2012 2:23 PM

    The “LA Vikings” comments are so damn original. Keep that witty, creative stuff comin’ guys, you’re all brilliant! As for the spineless cowards in state government….we all know they won’t do anything at all. They’re too scared they’ll get voted out and have to get a real job where you actually have to do something and make decisions. How would these yellow bellied pigs ever survive in a situation like that!? Pass it on to a public vote so they can’t take the heat. Spineless cowards.

  27. leatherhelmets says: Apr 16, 2012 3:12 PM

    Any day now. This will get done.
    Trust me.
    These people know what they are doing.
    They are experts.

    When push comes to shove, the politicians put aside their partisan ways and pass a stadium bill while holding hands and singing the theme song to Mary Tyler Moore.

  28. duhbears says: Apr 16, 2012 3:13 PM

    Everyone is building new stadiums, but the team that really needs one has a problem getting it done?
    Build the stadium, Minny.

  29. jimmysee says: Apr 16, 2012 3:26 PM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    Apr 16, 2012 1:44 PM

    This IS a real test.

    You have the Chairman saying the right thing (put it to a public referendum) and is daring the 14 others on the committee to vote for a taxpayer giveaway. Those 14 know that vote would likely mean political suicide in their next election as the Tea Party AND the OWS types target them.

    Who you got your money on? The people or the elites?

    ———————————————————

    Tell us, in your analysis, who exactly ARE the “people” and the “elites.”

    Sure hope you are not suggesting the tea party wingnuts are the “people.”

    Those folks make me embarrassed to be a baby boomer.

  30. mediasloppy says: Apr 16, 2012 3:38 PM

    Public Referendum’s are a joke. When asked about taxes being raised for anything the majority is always against it. That includes raising taxes for your own kids School and education.

  31. ruvelligwebuike says: Apr 16, 2012 3:47 PM

    What’s funny about this is that I’m sure the meetings are extremely cordial and low-key. Everyone politely smiling and nodding…”Yah, yep, you bet.”

    Then they form into 3-4 person cliques immediately after the session and trash the other people relentlessly when they aren’t there to defend themselves. Or trash them in the papers anonymously.

    Anyone who has ever spent more than 10 minutes in Minnesota knows exactly what I’m talking about. Bold statements and strong character scares the crap out of Minnesotans.

  32. jagsfanugh says: Apr 16, 2012 3:59 PM

    I don’t live in that state or anywhere near it so I am all for raising taxes to build the Vikings a new stadium and make sure it is real fancy too.

  33. rollteal says: Apr 16, 2012 4:08 PM

    Everyone wants to lump the Jaguars in with whatever is going on with Los Angeles and whomever is moving there.
    1st I don’t think the California economy can take 2 more teams in the state. 2nd the Jaguars are locked into Everbank & are not moving even if most of y’all would love to see that for whatever reason I guess just because it’s LA ( not like they have enough to do anyways) 3rd Jaguars haven’t even played a down in LA and won’t less they are the Road team & I hope everyone else keeps their teams also. Half of you don’t even know crap about Jacksonville or why you want the team to move just the fact it’s ” LA ” so of course they have to have a team even if they dgaf !!!

  34. taintedsaints2009 says: Apr 16, 2012 4:19 PM

    with the 3rd pick in the 2012 NFL draft, the Los Angeles Vikings select…

  35. eegwaybeegway says: Apr 16, 2012 4:38 PM

    The prudent people of the state of Minnesota have voiced their collective opinion that they’re not going to pay for this waste of tax dollars. If it’s such a good deal, let the Wilfs pay for it by soliciting funding from other tycoons in the form of an investment. They have the capital to get this done and if its a lucrative venture, I’m sure they’d have no problem attracting investors. Then they’d be able to reap the rewards. Just get off of the backs of Minnesota taxpayers.

  36. gb4mn0 says: Apr 16, 2012 4:46 PM

    mediasloppy says:
    Apr 16, 2012 3:38 PM
    Public Referendum’s are a joke. When asked about taxes being raised for anything the majority is always against it. That includes raising taxes for your own kids School and education.

    ———————————————

    Says the 30 year old welfare recipient toad living in his mama’s government financed trailer.

  37. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Apr 16, 2012 4:59 PM

    The stadium deal doesn’t raise taxes so I don’t see the need for a referendum. These spineless politicians won’t let it pass this session. They’ll probably call a special session in November after the elections so they can just get it done. People will scream that it shouldn’t have passed, then everyone will love it after it’s built.

  38. lnfinite says: Apr 16, 2012 5:09 PM

    This is pathetic when there is more sconnies trashing the thread than any constructive discussion here. The stadium bill will get passed even if things drag along at a snails pace.

  39. Deb says: Apr 16, 2012 5:17 PM

    Good grief, this thing is like slow torture. We were pulling our hair out when it looked like Dan Rooney might lose control of the Steelers. But the buyout of his brothers and taking on minority owners–all of which was extremely complex–was completed in a nanosecond compared to this. My heart goes out to diehard Vikings fans.

  40. rgledz says: Apr 16, 2012 6:37 PM

    @ eegwaybeegway…

    If short sided no counts like yourself would look at the big picture for once you would see the value in it for the state. Think about the fact that the Vikings would pay almost half the cost of a stadium that the team would only use 10 times a year (Just being realistic, hopefully more than 10 in the future) leaving the other 42 weeks of the year for the stat to have Expo’s, trade shows, concerts, monster truck rally’s, State football and soccer tournaments, etc. That’s a huge opportunity for profit, not too mention the fact that having a Super Bowl here would more than pay for the state’s contribution to the stadium. Let’s also add the thousands of construction jobs and permanent jobs that a new stadium will create and I don’t see how the state can’t do this! The tired rhetoric that all of you anti stadium folks drop over and over and over again is beyond worthless. Let’s get the stadium done and move on people.

  41. ndnut says: Apr 16, 2012 7:21 PM

    Lots of below the belt shots at relocation coming from this site (writers and commentors). At a certain point, you need to stop talking about what might happen and look at fan support. I’m not sure of exact figures, but I know that the Vikes have one of the longest home sellout streaks in football. While it has taken a few extensions, fans do come put for this team. If Zygi would’ve taken one of the previous offers of buying the Dome for a dollar, he would’ve made money hand over fist and could’ve built his own stadium. Since he didn’t, the state feels that they shouldn’t help him. The legislators in MN are largely made up of idiots who see the forrest but not the trees. Build It NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. mediasloppy says: Apr 16, 2012 9:21 PM

    gb4mn0 says:
    Apr 16, 2012 4:46 PM
    mediasloppy says:
    Apr 16, 2012 3:38 PM
    Public Referendum’s are a joke. When asked about taxes being raised for anything the majority is always against it. That includes raising taxes for your own kids School and education.

    ———————————————

    Says the 30 year old welfare recipient toad living in his mama’s government financed trailer.
    ——————————-

    NO, says the 40 year old who has lived here my whole life and gladly pays taxes for Target Field even though I don’t watch baseball. I am by all means not wealthy and my mother has her own home.

    Now go eat some cheese and fantasize about your football team, because it’s all you got going for you beside trolling the internet.

  43. vikesandravens78 says: Apr 16, 2012 11:59 PM

    Well, it’s over… Looks like one last year in MN and then it’s off to LaLa Land. It’s been real Vikes…

  44. vikingsgohard says: Apr 17, 2012 12:14 AM

    Its some real idiots on here …sorry

  45. pack13queens0 says: Apr 17, 2012 12:49 AM

    Didn’t pass. Great news. They belong in Los Angeles anyway. Minnesota is the home of losers. Name somebody or something in Minnesota that’s a winner?

  46. eegwaybeegway says: Apr 17, 2012 1:30 AM

    @rgledz

    Hate to break it to you pal, but the state of Minnesota is practically broke. The NFL makes billions. The Wilfs are billionaires.
    You figure it out. It’s corrupt to think a state populace needs to pick up the tab for someone that wealthy. Besides that, a new stadium will increase the value of the franchise some $500 million.
    If the deal is such a good one, why wouldn’t the billionaires line up a few of their good friends who could invest and then ultimately share the wealth? That concept would save the good people of Minnesota nealry a billion $ when you figure in both state and county.
    I’m not opposed to the Wilfs building a stadium that will make them even wealthier than they are now. I just oppose the funding mechanism they want to be used to carry out their scam.

  47. redhomer says: Apr 17, 2012 3:09 AM

    I am a Packer fan living in Viking land. I am all for a new stadium for the Vikes. However, what needs to be done before I would even consider spending a dime in taxes, They need to build the stadium in Arden Hills where there is plenty of room for the Stadium and a parking lot for proper tailgating. They also need to build it without a roof. Football is much more interesting played in the elements. Besides how many Superbowls have the vikings been in since playing in the dome? ZERO. They lost there advantage playing indoors. To counter the argument that a domed stadium can host other events, We still have the metrodome for that.

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