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Payton is banned from all NFL games, too

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As we peel the onion on the theoretical limitations regard the activities of suspended Saints coach Sean Payton, here’s a restriction that should be fairly easy for the league to enforce.

Payton is not permitted to attend any games.

Specifically, the policy (as provided to PFT by NFL spokesman Greg Aiello) states as follows:  “Suspended coaches or club executives are banned from all NFL facilities, stadiums or offices at any time during the suspension, in any capacity, except as authorized by the Commissioner.”

And so, to the extent that FOX remains interested in hiring Payton, he won’t be able to provide analysis of games, unless he does it remotely.  Moreover, even if other head coaches would have been inclined to welcome Payton to practice or a production meeting, Payton can’t talk to any players or coaches.

Thus, if he works for FOX or anyone else, Payton will be working in a studio, and he won’t be allowed to communicate directly or indirectly with “employees” of teams.

On this point, the league’s policy expressly applies only to team employees:  “While suspended, coaches or club executives are prohibited from direct or in-direct communication of any sort with employees of the 32 NFL Clubs, including through third parties; and such prohibited communications shall include, but are not limited to, phone or electronic contact with employees of any of the 32 NFL Clubs. Except for reasonable contact with the affected club’s principal owner and/or human resources manager for personal reasons, this prohibition applies to all club personnel (including players, coaches, physicians, trainers, videographers, scouts, executive assistants, business operations personnel, etc.).”

That gives rise to the legitimate question of whether Payton may communicate with Saints quarterback Drew Brees, given that Brees currently isn’t an employee of the Saints, or any other team.  Though the Saints retain exclusive rights to enter into a contract with Brees, there currently is no contract and thus no employment.

The league, as we understand it, interprets the suspension to prevent Payton from talking to Brees.  But this is an exercise in academics; Payton and Brees will talk as much as they want to talk, before and after Brees signs with the Saints.

The only question is whether they’ll ensure that they aren’t caught.  Given that it took the league three years, a failed investigation, and an unexpected whistleblower to blow the lid off a bounty/pay-for-performance system that was operated brazenly and openly before dozens of players and staff for three seasons, if Brees and Payton ensure that their communications are restricted to one-on-one calls via a private cell phone that the league can’t track, and if they are careful not to blab to others about the calls, the league will never know.

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  1. baned0n says: Apr 17, 2012 1:17 PM

    And he can’t get NFL Sunday Ticket!

    And no Redzone Channel!

    And he has to watch the WNBA!

  2. jason1980 says: Apr 17, 2012 1:22 PM

    This is insane, and will surely come back to haunt the NFL.

  3. terripet says: Apr 17, 2012 1:23 PM

    Good, he should be kicked out of the leauge for good.

  4. bbrophy1 says: Apr 17, 2012 1:26 PM

    Can he tweet them? Is he forced to defriend all of his NFL buddies on facebook?

  5. chadmurdigan says: Apr 17, 2012 1:29 PM

    This whole deal is rapidly wandering deep into LaLa Land where reason, common sense, and rational thinking are being left far behind. I miss the old NFL where things were black and white, men hit other men, and business men control freaks in suits didn’t try to legislate and rule on every freaking nuance of professional football.

  6. Chris K says: Apr 17, 2012 1:31 PM

    They’re both Sigma Chis. They’ll figure out a way.

  7. rajbais says: Apr 17, 2012 1:34 PM

    It’s okay! He can always watch them at Buffalo Wild Wings!!!

  8. nbaraie says: Apr 17, 2012 1:37 PM

    Anyone who has seen The Wire knows what Payton has to do, buy 2 throw away tracfones not in his or vitt’s name.

    I dont see how the league could possibly enforce this rule, unless the league had someone shadow him for an entire year.

    That being said, he better not get caught.

  9. tommyribs says: Apr 17, 2012 1:41 PM

    I hear that the Arkansas Razorbacks could be looking for a Head Coach?

    Win/Win?

    I think so!

  10. frenchy121212 says: Apr 17, 2012 1:44 PM

    He will get busted for breaking the rules. Absolutely no doubt in my mind.

  11. daysend564 says: Apr 17, 2012 1:46 PM

    It would be a great disservice to the NFL if he was hired by FOX.

  12. saintsvstheworld says: Apr 17, 2012 1:48 PM

    What a joke this has all become! We’ve all turned into a bunch of sissies. The ‘example’made of the Saints was serious at first and somewhat warranted but it has become laughable now…freeze his bank accounts, set up surveillance at his home…hell, doom him to house arrest. Florio leads the charge…sorry about your stadium woes by the way…LMAO!

  13. etjla says: Apr 17, 2012 1:50 PM

    Also the only TV shows he is allowed to watch are reruns of Lassie as long as Lassie is not retriving any bones. That may give an unfair advantage. What a crock. Wish Goodell was supended for the year as well. That would do the sport some good.

  14. mrsroper says: Apr 17, 2012 1:57 PM

    Goodell has also prohibited him from contacting the Catholic saints.

  15. r0b1b0y says: Apr 17, 2012 1:57 PM

    I wonder if Payton plays Madden on XBOX live?

  16. citizenstrange says: Apr 17, 2012 2:04 PM

    I’m banned from all NFL games too ’cause (as with Mr. Bojangles) I drinks a bit.

  17. bobulated says: Apr 17, 2012 2:06 PM

    “Hello, DirecTV? Yes, I would like to order NFL Sunday Ticket…My name? Ummmmm…Ron Mexico! Yeahhh, Ron Mexico, that’s the ticket.”

  18. nineroutsider says: Apr 17, 2012 2:15 PM

    Cafe Lafitte is where Bress and Payton will meet up as they have been doing for years along with thousands of Saints fans, most of whom also happen to voice their whiny opinions on PFT.

  19. Manbearpig says: Apr 17, 2012 2:21 PM

    I love all the humiliation that d bag is suffering right now. Love it love it love it.

    2009 Super Bowl Champions – New Orleans Saints*

  20. andyreiddoublecheeseburger says: Apr 17, 2012 2:22 PM

    If Payton wanted to recoup any credit he’s lost in this sordid affair, he should go and spend time with our troops overseas. And travel to places like China and Africa to help the NFL become more of a global enterprise. Spend the year serving as an ambassador for the game. People then might be willing to forgive any malfeasance on his part. Better than sitting in the FOX studio yucking it up with Terry, Howie, and the gang.

  21. timsmooth says: Apr 17, 2012 2:29 PM

    Hate on haters. You’re fueling the SAINTS & their fans.

  22. qdog112 says: Apr 17, 2012 2:32 PM

    Yeah, but have you seen his MAN CAVE?

  23. Max says: Apr 17, 2012 2:49 PM

    Go help coach a college team for a year. Go do scouting for 2013 draft class…

  24. managod777 says: Apr 17, 2012 2:50 PM

    All of this is happening because Goodell is making an example of Payton. His whole attitude is that, “no one will purposely lie to me, the Great Goodell!”, ever again!

  25. saintsvstheworld says: Apr 17, 2012 2:51 PM

    manbearpurplehornhatwearinggoon…I love watching you tube videos of you silly tards throwing tantrums when Favre did what he’s always done…throw picks at the worst possible time! Classic…never gets old. C’mon down anytime if you’d like to see what a Lombardi trophy looks like…Who Dat! Not the queens, dats for sure!

  26. scrp2 says: Apr 17, 2012 2:51 PM

    Wow, no 20 hour – 7 day work weeks? Looks like he’ll be forced to take a 4-month vacation in Fiji with the cell phone turned off.

  27. montanawonfour says: Apr 17, 2012 2:52 PM

    Payton has been in the NFL for like 20 years, probably most of the people he knows and most of his friends work in the NFL. So he’s banned from having a social life for a year?

  28. truthhurtstoo says: Apr 17, 2012 2:57 PM

    yeah… double secret probation!

  29. geauxsaintsforever says: Apr 17, 2012 3:04 PM

    Manbearpig says:
    Apr 17, 2012 2:21 PM
    I love all the humiliation that d bag is suffering right now. Love it love it love it.

    2009 Super Bowl Champions – New Orleans Saints*

    ____________

    I’ve been saying this for weeks now, if you’re going to post something about the asterisks, please provide a legitimate reference. I’ve still not seen a single relevant source that says there’s an asterisk attached to the Super Bowl win. So for all of you who support a team that’s been awful the past few years, get a life, and move along now.

  30. neilnixon says: Apr 17, 2012 3:11 PM

    All I can figure is that Payton must have made or completed a pass at Goodell’s wife….

    This is getting ridiculous and I can’t believe the mainstream media is not starting to question whether the Commissar is starting to go a little bit overboard to ding Payton and the Saints. Of course, to maintain access most of the reporters have their noses so far up the NFL’s hinter regions that they would NEVER question something like why did Goodell take draft choices away from the Saints and what does this have to do with Bounty Gate?? Those responsible (Williams, Payton, Loomis, Vitt) have already been penalized severely, so why hurt the future on-field performance of the team and its fan base who are still being asked to pay full price for tickets??

    I’ve posted that question several times on here and twice in emails to Peter King but no one takes the bait; probably because there is no logic to it ! Want to take a stab at explaining that Mr. Florio? Or perhaps pose that question to someone in authority — since you have access and we ticket-buying fans don’t –but please be careful not to write anything that makes the Commissar too upset….

  31. j0esixpack says: Apr 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    He can still watch the game tape and the legal signal stealing tape that all teams film from the stands (regardless of whether some fans continue to delude themselves, it’s legal and all teams do it… Just not from the sidelines)

  32. tredog95 says: Apr 17, 2012 3:18 PM

    geauxsaintsforever,

    you’re having a conversation with someone who refers to itself as manbearpig? who dat!

  33. saintsly says: Apr 17, 2012 3:25 PM

    This has gotten to be so stupid and hope Goodell becomes embarrassed and that he is seen as a childish fool. A monetary fine would have been good but NO, Goodell is seeking a personal vendettea against the Saints and there is no stopping him untill the owners kick his ass down the road. This has gotten totally silly and out of control and he looks like an ass clown. Gregg Williams was out of control but Goodell makes him look like Capt. Kangaroo.

  34. musicman495 says: Apr 17, 2012 3:35 PM

    And people thought I was exaggerating when I said Goodell should sentence the Saints to death by lethal injection. It’s getting more ridiculous by the minute. Stick around another few weeks and see if I actually got it right.

  35. Manbearpig says: Apr 17, 2012 3:49 PM

    @geauxsaintsforever

    Pretty simple, really. Your team cheated – violating a competitive rule, as the NFL put it – during the 2009 season. Therefore, they earn an asterisk. Had they won the SB without cheating, an asterisk would not have been affixed.

  36. salty4 says: Apr 17, 2012 3:49 PM

    As tax paying citizens of Louisiana, we should call for Goodell not be allowed in the state for a one year period starting May 1st. We pay for the Super Dome, not him!

  37. conormacleod says: Apr 17, 2012 3:57 PM

    This whole deal is rapidly wandering deep into LaLa Land where reason, common sense, and rational thinking are being left far behind.
    ——————————————–
    You mean like giving monetary rewards to football players to hurt and maim other football players, and then get caught, and then say you’re not going to do it anymore, and then get caught again? The Saints left rational thinking behind three years ago. For those that are made at Goodell, take a long, hard look at your Saints team, because they committed the crime, not Judge Goodell.

    BTW: Payton is suspended for a single year, then gets to come back to make millions of dollars. If you or I did the exact same thing in our employment, we would be fired and investigated for a criminal act. Think about it. Or better yet, give it a try!

  38. nineroutsider says: Apr 17, 2012 4:04 PM

    timsmooth says: Apr 17, 2012 2:29 PM

    Hate on haters. You’re fueling the SAINTS & their fans.
    ———————————————————-
    Whine on Saints fans. You’re fueling our hatred of not only the SAINTS, but their front-running, band-wagon fans.

  39. rboyett says: Apr 17, 2012 4:07 PM

    I hope to see the coach around Southlake. Maybe he can come watch the game with the 400+ WhoDats that can be found at Buffalo Wild Wings in Euless, TX on every Sunday..

  40. mark921129 says: Apr 17, 2012 4:15 PM

    No Saints fan, but enough is enough.

    Punish Williams all you want, but if there were no injuries as a result…no real crime was committed.

    6 games is all Payton deserved. And even then, that would be a stupid tax just for letting Williams do his thing.

  41. geauxsaintsforever says: Apr 17, 2012 4:21 PM

    @manbearpig

    Since when do teams “earn” an asterisk? More importantly, during NFL games there are these individuals who stand on the field wearing striped shirts. Their job is to make sure teams don’t cheat, and if teams do cheat, they throw these little yellow things onto the field and call what are commonly referred to as “penalties”. If you believe these people were not on the field during the 16 regular season games the Saints played in 2009 + the 3 playoff games, then maybe this is a legitimate conversation. But I have a feeling each of the Saints games were played with officials on the field. These measures, which apparently you’re unfamiliar with, are designed to ensure that teams do not “earn” asterisks.

  42. thesportgenius says: Apr 17, 2012 4:41 PM

    Cheaters will cheat, liars will lie…take it to the bank. He will communicate somehow under the radar. BTW, where will he steal his pain killers from if he can’t enter the team facility?

  43. tredog95 says: Apr 17, 2012 5:33 PM

    manbearpig says….that really sounds pretty funny. competitive balance??? i’m sorry, did they record practices? did they take steroids? or was it the growth hormones? stop getting mad because your team got beat by the saints….or do you want to call them the aints?? we know how people like you still like to say “the aints”. lol.

    manbearpig need edumacation.

  44. Manbearpig says: Apr 17, 2012 5:55 PM

    I’d rather lose the 2009 NFC title game then win that game and the Super Bowl by cheating and eventually become the disgrace of the NFL.

    Congrats though.

  45. CKL says: Apr 17, 2012 6:19 PM

    Unless a team paid off refs or had players who threw the game on purpose how the bleep can there be asterisks by a championship? Team A still has to beat team B on the field. The way you do that is to execute on the field. If you execute on the field better than the other team, you win.

  46. thepftpaperchase says: Apr 17, 2012 6:54 PM

    j0esixpack says:Apr 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    He can still watch the game tape and the legal signal stealing tape that all teams film from the stands (regardless of whether some fans continue to delude themselves, it’s legal and all teams do it… Just not from the sidelines)

    Joe: Teams cannot steal defensive signals anymore, since each team is now allowed to have a defensive player with a helmet that has a communication system in it…just as the quarterback does. Therefore there is no reason to videotape any of the defensive coaches because there are no signals.

  47. mdd913 says: Apr 17, 2012 7:22 PM

    Manbearpig says: Apr 17, 2012 5:55 PM

    I’d rather lose the 2009 NFC title game then win that game and the Super Bowl by cheating and eventually become the disgrace of the NFL.

    ——————————————————————–

    Yeah, but you’re forgetting that hitching your wagon to Favre, the straight plummet of your team to the basement and it’s imminent departure from your city already have made you the disgrace of the NFL.

    I’d rather be a cheating disgrace with a Super Bowl than a pathetic relocated franchise with a well-deserved reputation for choking in every big game they’ve ever played.

  48. j0esixpack says: Apr 17, 2012 9:43 PM

    thepftpaperchase says:

    Joe: Teams cannot steal defensive signals anymore, since each team is now allowed to have a defensive player with a helmet that has a communication system in it…just as the quarterback does. Therefore there is no reason to videotape any of the defensive coaches because there are no signals.
    ——-

    Ummm… they haven’t used hand signals for years

    they call in the play to the headsets and, in case you haven’t noticed, do their best to cover their mouths

    teams are filming them calling in the plays… telescopic mics and lip reading would make it easy to watch and analyze play calling

    none of that is meant to be used DURING the game – its for post game analysis to be used in future games

    thats what the Patriots did (using sideline cameras rather than the authorized cameras in the stands) – that’s what they still do using the stand cameras – and that’s what all teams do even today

    there’s a lot of ignorance about spygate and filming play calling – hopefully most fans notice that even today all coordinators cover their mouths when calling in plays

  49. whodatgirl1 says: Apr 18, 2012 2:07 AM

    I don’t know why any of you are engaging in conversation with Manbearpig. He is a Vikings fan who is still bitter over the fact that the Saints won the NFC title game in 2009. Them winning that game was not the result of any so-called bounty its because grandpa Favre threw an interception and Garret Hartley kicked a fieldgoal in overtime to win. And they won the superbowl because Peyton threw an interception that turned into a TD and the oneside kick. NONE of the games were won as a result of injury inflicted to opponents.

    On a different note, as a part of Payton’s suspension, Badell also said that he has to inform the NFL of when he attends a college game or anytime he happens to see an NFL employee on the street. Like he is on Parole reporting to his PO. What a joke. Why don’t they just give him an ankle bracelet? Or bug his phone?

  50. banjostang says: Apr 18, 2012 1:50 PM

    But this is an exercise in academics; Payton and Brees will talk as much as they want to talk, before and after Brees signs with the Saints. The only question is whether they’ll ensure that they aren’t caught.

    Hey Florio, here’s a tip – If you want to ever be taken seriously as a sportscaster (or whatever the hell you think you are) You really should make your hatred of certain teams less obvious.

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