That said, I’m not sure where they’re going to move and do better… Los Angeles has lost every NFL team they ever acquired including the Chargers, Raiders and Rams, so that doesn’t really sound like a long term solution for the Vikings.

Also, the public is likely to sympathize with the people of Minneapolis / St. Paul, because they’re just a mid-sized market, the team has been there forever and it looks like a community that loves it’s team has a gun to it’s head.

Plus, I don’t want Contra, Pervy, and all of the other annoying but hilarious Viking fans rooting for my team if they lose their team. It keeps things interesting.

And to the annoying packer fans on here who like to give us a bad name, grow up. You think its all funny now but if they their team, it just won’t be the same. I hate Chicago too just as much as Minnesota, but I would never want the bears to leave either.

Because it can.

Some call it leverage. Others call it extortion. As NFL executive V.P. Eric Grubman told PFT Live on Thursday, the league regards it as competition.

Regardless, if one place won’t kick in significant public money to keep the NFL, someone else will kick in significant public money to get the NFL, either directly through cash contributions or indirectly through tax credits and other incentives. Or through that Private Seat Licenses and/or higher ticket prices that a larger metropolitan area has the population density (i.e., enough really rich people) to support.

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‘A Rose by any other name would smell just as sweet”

It’s extortion no matter how you slice or dice it.

I just wanted to add to this otherwise good point. Higher Ticket prices and PSL’s Paid by Joe Fan isn’t what the NFL is after. They want the big money that comes with luxury suite rental. The Super Dome was able to add several during renovation because the original design allowed them to do it. This couldn’t be done in the Metrodome from what I understand.

Am I wrong when I say I get the impression that not only is the owner, but the NFL self, eager for this to be used as an excuse to relocate the team to a city in a state(LA) that, if it had been an independent country, it would have been in the top 10 if not top 5 economies in the world.

To be honest, it seems that the NFL and the owner is seeing $$$$$$ bill ya all

Does the city charge sales tax on the $3.6M ticket sales? That would be $72,000 in city income.

From that one game.

OK, let’s say the municipality’s contribution is — for the sake of argument — $100,000,000. At your figure of $72k return per game, that means it takes roughly 1,400 games to break even. Assuming a team makes the playoffs and gets a Home Game every season, the city will recoup it’s investment in 150 years.

You Are Not Helping.

It’s like seeing your ex-wife living a lavish lifestyle with her new husband… in a house that you paid for. I can’t imagine the bitterness they feel.

If the Metrodome were to be all but destroyed in a natural disaster and rebuilt using uncountable millions of federal dollars, it too could be a State of the Art football stadium.

The “broke” state of California has a negative cash-flow with regard to federal funding — it sends more money out of state to the federal government than it takes in. Not sure about the status of your state, but you might want to look into that before you get all Occupyish.

That’s for the people of a given city/state and their elected representatives to decide. Public money gets spent on all sorts of things. Sometimes, it’s a good investment. Sometimes, it isn’t.

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So can we assume you have “seen the light” and are willing to allow the taxpayers to actually vote (as the City Charter says they MUST) on being involved in this process? That you no longer are carrying water for the league?

As much as I (and anyone with a sharp pencil and calculator) know this proposed deal is lop sided in favor of the Vikings I would not object to public funds being used IF AGREED TO IN A VOTER REFERENDUM. Settle it once and for all. The only problem is that the NFL and the Vikings have refused to go along with the idea as they know it will be defeated.

Welfare would be voted down. Medicare. Art centers. Etc.

Enough people like the Vikings and get enjoyment for it to be best overall to keep them. It is just such a small amount of money, most of which comes back in taxes and out of state dollars spent in state.

Minnesota routinely gives vastly larger sums of money to companies like 3M, Target, etc. The problem is you have a bunch of democrats that want to play the “we’re not giving billionaires money” game for their ignorant followers, ignoring the fact that the State is better off with the Vikings than without them.

To a Southeast WI Packer fan it’s a draw between the Rams and the Vikings. Same distance either way, as of now both poor-to-bad teams who play in domes. Perhaps a new stadium will change that for the ‘queens. The only thing that goes in the Vikings’ favor versus the Rams is the Rams have shown the ability to actually win a championship so who would need that in the division? Otherwise, I like visiting St. Louis way more than the Twin Cities, so if attending an away game, it’s the same distance and a better city. Advantage Rams.

It’s all about leverage, everyone knows the deal will get done, but pushing it to the last possible outcome creates a situation where political deals get made. For the first time in 40yrs the legislature is run by the GOP and the Gov. is a Dem. So it’s “let’s make a deal time”

The NFL commish comes to town and says “get it done or else” and Ziggy flys out to LA to see if that can show some leverage from his standpoint.

Keep in mind, LA is broke! Where are they going to come up with a billion $ to make it work there?
They’re already taxed to the hilt and they’re more liberal than MN about stadiums for rich owners.

To me the best deal is the White Earth Indian Casino deal. They put in $400 Million of the States share and get a casino in the Twin Cities. They’re the largest reservation in MN and the poorest – it’s a win for everyone and the State gets to share in the future revenue!

The politicians in this case are acting like entitled/spoiled children. Acting as if the Vikings owe them something…..they don’t. If the team can get the deal somewhere else then they should go. The politicians can point to private financing deals in other cities and say “why can’t we do this?”. Fine…..where is it? Show me the money……where are the private entities willing to finance the new stadium? There aren’t any, so stop talking about fairy tales and get it done.

The politicians can say that the metronome can be refurbished…….but the vikes don’t want to reside in that ****hole anymore and have offers other places for a new stadium. They can complain that the vikes won’t open the books……again, other places aren’t requiring this.

If they really want it they will have to pay.

I see what you did there. By the way, that’s technically 11 things.

Seriously, there’s no reason to build 2 football stadiums, especially when one team plays on Saturday and the other on Sunday.