Comments on: Fifth-year contract formula could push Tannehill out of top 10

By: mmcdan133

mmcdan133 — Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:53:35 +0000

I am absolutely terrified that this kid is going to be sitting there at 11 when the Chiefs pick.

By: demetrius82

demetrius82 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:18:30 +0000

If he is good then you wont need to worry about that. If he is bad, the same thing, you can just cut him before the 5th year option. This is a non-issue.

By: poison66

poison66 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:14:41 +0000

Tannehill= bust. Weeden is the safe pick…….

By: applecool1981

applecool1981 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:59:12 +0000

I think that it’s ridiculous that pick 11 through 32 get contracts with similar provisions; if picks 1-10 get something really high, then 11-21 should get the next best provision, followed by picks 22-32. How are picks 11 and 32 equal. Rookie contract wise, they shouldn’t be.

By: applecool1981

applecool1981 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:52:51 +0000

medtxpack says: Apr 20, 2012 5:37 PM

“@packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears

the way players act about $ these days with their agents,…wouldnt be shocked if it did make a team pass on him. The fact that Pioli already touched on how important the calculation is at 10/11 spot shows other GMs are watching it just as close.

another issue is if yo uget him and he SUCKS, no one will want to pick him up and youll end up cutting him and losing money there too.”

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They really wouldn’t be losing money, especially with the wage scale in place. When, they cut him instead of giving him the 5th year contract option, there will be no bonus that they owe him because his contract will have reached it’s final point. It’s a four year contract with a 5th year option. Not a five year contract with an expensive 5th year.

By: bullpuppy552

bullpuppy552 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 05:34:50 +0000

Tannehill sucked in games against top talent. That is a major red flag!!! He is not Top 10 worthy let alone 1st round worthy.

By: ydnubm

ydnubm — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:09:57 +0000

Wow. It’s hard to come up with content in the last few days leading up to the draft.

I can’t imagine there is a single team that is worried about what they might have to pay their starting quarterback in year 5 of a rookie contract.

Whoever drafts him is hoping and dreaming that they can simply pay him the average of the top 10 in year 5. That’s certainly cheaper than ‘franchising’ him!

By: beeronthefridge

beeronthefridge — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 03:13:22 +0000

Tannehill is a top 10 qb…in the third round.

By: jluns275

jluns275 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 03:02:35 +0000

As a Chiefs fan, Scott Pioli’s comments make me a little nervous. I am not sold on Tannehill. Just because he’s considered the 3rd best QB in the draft doesn’t mean he’s worth a high 1st round pick. I think even 11th overall would be a reach. If the Chiefs are really in love with him, they should trade down & aquire an extra pick or two. THEN take him. He strikes me as closer to Colin Kapernick than Andy Dalton, or even Christian Ponder; the Chiefs already have 2 serviceable but not elite QBs in Matt Cassel & Brady Quinn-why use a very high pick on what is at best likely one more of the same?

By: frenchy121212

frenchy121212 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 02:21:48 +0000

This whole Tannehill stuff makes me laugh. Did anyone watch the games? The dude can barely play. I thought it was joke when I heard he was going high in the draft. I kinda feel bad for him. A fan base will blame him for failing. It is not his fault someone is going to draft him 4 rounds too soon.

By: pilarvirus

pilarvirus — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 02:02:56 +0000

I don’t understand why people are mocking him as a first round prospect, he’s going to be just like Brady Quinn but he’s going to be drafted in the second round.

I don’t mean any disrespect for the kid, but it’s scary how fast he’s moving up draft boards. If he goes in the first, then I believe so should Weeden. They’ve done equally the same.

By: poison66

poison66 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 01:54:18 +0000

Tannehill is a 4th round pick at best. Weeden should be the 1st rounder…….

By: bobhpine

bobhpine — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 01:32:20 +0000

No team is passing on a quarterback based on a fifth year pay difference…does Florio know what top qbs make? If he’s worth keeping teams would be happy to pay whatever he fifth year salary would because it will go up a ton after that…Florio not know nfl good, no intelligent

By: philvil41

philvil41 — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:11:15 +0000

If you don’t know what you have in him after five years,then the team that picked him is at fault.If he hasn’t played enough to evaluate,then let him walk,no one else would pay him top ten money at that point either.

By: waltdawg

waltdawg — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:55:36 +0000

Well, I guess the RG3 crap is not only limited to RG3…..Stop with all of this second guessing. We are getting down to the wire.

HAIL RG3….Save DC!

By: deuce2222

deuce2222 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:42:14 +0000

bozosforall says:
Apr 20, 2012, 6:53 PM EDT

You could always “change the channel”, moron. Then again, given that “everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it”, that means that you are now too dumb to even comprehend “changing the channel”, so I guess that we are stuck with your dumb arse here forever.

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It was an attempt to make light of an obviously difficult thing to explain. I really enjoy mike florio’s posts. I think he’s great. It was actually a movie quote, I didnt make it up and thought that Mike Florio would think it was humorous. Didn’t mean to upset you……

By: cliffordc05

cliffordc05 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:58:17 +0000

If Tannehill is drafted in the top ten and is not an elite player by year 5 there will be no problem. Those responsible for drafting him will be long gone. The salary issue is not relevant. If you think he has elite potential and will realize it then you draft him. If you pass on him and he becomes an elite player then you will be canned anyway. This is a non issue.

By: bozosforall

bozosforall — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:53:55 +0000

deuce2222 says:
Apr 20, 2012 6:47 PM
Mr. Florio, what you’ve just said … is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

In all seriousness, how complicated can the pay scales get…… They didn’t make sense before, now they really don’t…..

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You could always “change the channel”, moron. Then again, given that “everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it”, that means that you are now too dumb to even comprehend “changing the channel”, so I guess that we are stuck with your dumb arse here forever.

By: denverdave3

denverdave3 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:51:55 +0000

You said in an early chapter that the 5th year is an option year, presumably for the team. therefore the player is either worth it or he’s not. If not the team doesn’t extend. Then there are some other options, like renegotiate his contract at the end of the third year, or trade him.

By: bobby4413

bobby4413 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:51:11 +0000

Just another reason not to draft Tannehill. The way you beat the Patsies is to rush Brady, just ask NYG fans!

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:48:24 +0000

Tannehill has raw talent and good measurables. He lacks experience and possibly a bit of maturity in dealing with pressure situations…and those are easily fixed. A good system geared toward his strengths and good coaching are usually the only major differences between very good QBs and average ones. If the Dolphins believe he fits well in the system they intend to use, then it really is not much of a choice. You take the kid and develop him. Waiting and hoping to grab him later on is disastrous…that’s the only reason Mallett is not a Dolphin. If he is their guy then they need to grab him at 8, if not then address a need with a very good prospect or move down for more picks. This is not as hard a decision as many are making it out to be.

By: deuce2222

deuce2222 — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:47:03 +0000

Mr. Florio, what you’ve just said … is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

In all seriousness, how complicated can the pay scales get…… They didn’t make sense before, now they really don’t…..

By: bigredscouting

bigredscouting — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:36:57 +0000

This is laughably wrong. Anyone who think Tannehill is there QB of the future isn’t going to not draft him because of one year of a contract. I expect better from you Florio, poor form. Poor form.

By: tfbuckfutter

tfbuckfutter — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:33:17 +0000

If he’s a decent but not exceptional QB that TEAM option gets negotiated into an EXTENSION.

Even if he’s exceptional it will still most likely just be a point argued over in extension talks.

Don’t think anyone will take that into consideration when the option is “A potential franchise QB or…..someone else who I’ll still have to pay an inflated salary to in the 5th year.”

By: cuffhimbanano

cuffhimbanano — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:33:08 +0000

You’re really outhinking yourself. If one of the top 10 teams drafting feels he’s going to be a franchise quarterback he’ll be gone before 11. If he doesn’t go in the first 10 the reason will have nothing to do with a 5th year option.
Besides, if he turns into a very good QB that 5th year is going to cost a lot more than the collective bargaining formula in the form of a long term deal. I would think the team that drafts would view this as a good problem to have down the road.

By: midwestpulse

midwestpulse — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:28:04 +0000

I’m not a hater, but I see nothing in tannehil. Granted I thought Von Miller and Newton would be a bust last year, so what do I know.

I am grateful that my team doesn’t feel the pressure to pick a QB like this. Dammned if you do damned if you don’t if you don’t go for or commit to a franchise QB.

Dolphins! Browns! Don’t do it!

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:25:16 +0000

You don’t need more than 3 years to know what you have or will have. By the 4th year if you aren’t willing to make him the elite QB of your team, you cut him and move on……what is the issue?

By: federali

federali — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:19:42 +0000

If you really think this guy is an elite quarterback worth drafting in the top 10 who can take your team to the playoffs.. I don’t think having to pay him a lot in his final year where you’d be looking to do a long term deal anyway matters.

By: billybatty

billybatty — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:07:48 +0000

Contracts were made to be used in lieu of toilet paper.

By: Mike Florio

Mike Florio — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:54:24 +0000

It’s the average of the 10 highest-paid players at the position.