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Vikings say they have disclosed financial information

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Recently, a member of the Minnesota Senate justified his opposition to a new stadium by claiming that the Vikings haven’t been forthcoming with financial information.

“The Vikings have asked for the single largest taxpayer subsidy for any professional sports stadium in recent U.S. history, while at the same time refusing to disclose financial information that is required of all other projects receiving taxpayer money,” Senator Scott Dibble said in an email message to a constituent that was forwarded by the recipient to PFT.

The Vikings on Friday night responded to Senator Dibble’s contention.  In an email to PFT, Vikings director of corporate communications Jeff Anderson explained that the Vikings have disclosed relevant financial information.

“The truth is the Vikings have allowed representatives of Governor Dayton to review the team’s audited financials,” Anderson said.  “In fact, [Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission] Chair Ted Mondale testified to that point during the House Government Operations Committee hearing this past Monday, April 16. That financial review helped shape the agreement struck between Governor Dayton, State and City leaders and the Vikings on March 1, 2012.”

As to Senator Dibble’s separate contention that stadiums in other cities have been built with 70-to-90 percent private financing, Anderson agreed with that observation.  “However, those markets — Dallas, New York, New England, San Francisco and Washington — are significantly larger markets that allow extensive PSL programs and generate much higher stadium revenues,” Anderson said.  “The Wilfs have guaranteed the third-largest private contribution in NFL history and the largest rent payment of any team that does not operate the facility.  This commitment comes despite Minnesota being a small- to mid-size market and despite many years of delay that have more than doubled the project costs.”

It’s important for folks like Senator Dibble to articulate their concerns, and it’s important for the Vikings to respond.  Regardless of the outcome, a public discourse is critical to ensuring that the final position reflects the will of the people of Minnesota.

It’s also critical that the folks who support and the folks who oppose the stadium take advantage of the various electronic tools for expressing their views.  This is the NFL’s first serious flirtation with relocation since Al Gore’s invention took the world by storm, and those who want it, and those who don’t, need to spend more time recruiting fence-sitters and encouraging those who already have picked a side to actively join the cause.

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  1. straighcashhomie84 says: Apr 20, 2012 10:49 PM

    Vikes #1

  2. spottedviking says: Apr 20, 2012 10:54 PM

    Ok get this done and keep the Vikes in Minny for another 30 years! SKOL VIKINGS LETS GO!!!!!!!

  3. jason1980 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:02 PM

    The Vikings suck therefore the team should relocate to LA.

  4. bighyzer says: Apr 20, 2012 11:06 PM

    If this Dibble clown is incorrect in his statement about the Vike’s financial disclosure (therefore manipulating public opinion), he needs to be took to task for that – publicly.
    Build the thing. Looks at what the Twins stadium has done for downtown. Look what the X has done for St Paul. Plus, Minnesota Sundays in mid-to-late November would be like living in Des Moines.

  5. steelersaresuperiorineveryway6welookdownandlaugh says: Apr 20, 2012 11:09 PM

    This is may be good news. Probably won’t be though. Steeler Nation is a superior race. That’s what we do know.

  6. porterhouse12 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:14 PM

    Maybe the Vikings should take the politicians on one of their well known yacht excursions…

  7. beeronthefridge says: Apr 20, 2012 11:16 PM

    All NFL teams hide their financials to hide they are making out like bandits!

  8. defeetrexryan says: Apr 20, 2012 11:21 PM

    Good God. Even as a Vikings fan I’m kinda getting sick of all the news.

  9. tweeter75 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:21 PM

    I just hope we get a deal done soon so the national scrutiny of Minnesota politics will go away. Frankly, it’s embarrrasing. Case in point, Senator Dibble’s email….he obvoiously doesn’t even have his facts straight.

  10. rmavs says: Apr 20, 2012 11:22 PM

    You know, at this point, I feel like the Vikings have done more for the state of Minnesota than the politicians. My love for the Vikings gives me an escape from my every day life, and gives me something to look forward to during the NFL season, and even into the offseason. The Vikes in Minny has been my team…without them, the NFL is dead to me.

  11. Da Bears says: Apr 20, 2012 11:28 PM

    In order to maintain your facade of objectivity, you should mention that Dibble is a democrat. See, when you deliver bad news and attribute it to repubs, we notice. Do us a favor and call out your own boys when appropriate.

    That aside, what Minny needs is an objective “here’s your economic landscape *with* the Vikings, and here it is *without* them” study that cites facts and reasonable assumptions – with those assumptions clearly labeled as such and with appropriate backup so that everyone can decide for themselves whether they are indeed reasonable. That, plus some ROI analysis shared with the public woul make for a fairly simple “go/no-go” decision: does this offer a return on the investment that makes the deal a winner for the public investment of funds? If not, negotiate to the point that it does.

    As for the “public money shouldn’t be used to subsidize billionaires” crowd, you simply have to realize that while it may enrich a billionaire, it can also enrich many others. Ever hold a job? You’re enriching a person with more money than you. But it’s a good deal for you to show up and work for them anyway; otherwise you wouldn’t do it. Same logic applies here. Calculated investing *is* work – and like work, it comes with a reward if you’ve done your due diligence. So let’s get some freaking due diligence done and lay out the numbers for all to see. The payoff to the public – or lack thereof – should drive the decision. If the business case is solid, the legislature won’t have to worry about November because the numbers will speak for themselves.

  12. tolan04 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:31 PM

    Vikes #1
    —————–

    #3 in Minnesota

  13. rmavs says: Apr 20, 2012 11:35 PM

    choke, steeler poster, choke…your time will come

  14. jimnsota says: Apr 20, 2012 11:38 PM

    Like Pacino said “dont waste my mothaF%%&** Time”
    Politicians… the equvilant of wasting our money on their time…Get it fricken done already. We all know its going to happen.

  15. usmutts says: Apr 20, 2012 11:44 PM

    Billionaires buy sports franchises and, years later, sell them for almost obscene profits. This kind of appreciation cannot happen without a proper facility to play in. If these owners want the taxpayers to pay, say, half the costs of a stadium without which the owners cannot develop their investment (the team) then the taxpayers should get 50% of the profits when the franchise is sold. Thus, both investors – the owner and the taxpayers – share the financial risks and, ultimately, the financial rewards.

  16. tweeter75 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:47 PM

    steelersaresuperiorineveryway6welookdownandlaugh……………..is that you James Harrison???? Sounds like something he’d say.

  17. adross47 says: Apr 20, 2012 11:57 PM

    @bighyzer

    Taken to task

  18. bighyzer says: Apr 21, 2012 12:05 AM

    Da Bears says:Apr 20, 2012 11:28 PM

    In order to maintain your facade of objectivity, you should mention that Dibble is a democrat. See, when you deliver bad news and attribute it to repubs, we notice. Do us a favor and call out your own boys when appropriate.
    ———————————————–
    Da Bears, I agree with 90% of what you’re saying but (assuming you’re a Republican by your comments) the fact that Republican TimPawlenty, self admittedly (with many quoted proofs), said that he wouldn’t touch the stadium issue and would leave it to the next administration brought us to this point. As a so-called “legislator” he should have adressed this issue when it was brought to his desk. He ignored it. Hence, here we are. If the Vikings do leave, Republicans are as much to blame as anyone.

  19. thcnote says: Apr 21, 2012 12:08 AM

    steelersaresuperiorineveryway6welookdownandlaugh says:
    Apr 20, 2012 11:09 PM
    This is may be good news. Probably won’t be though. Steeler Nation is a superior race. That’s what we do know.
    ——
    Eliminated by TIM TEBOW!

  20. justasecond1 says: Apr 21, 2012 12:13 AM

    The responsible thing to do would be to raise funds from those that “think” it is a good idea. Sell ownership to the general public or whatever it takes. Sort of like the Packers but actually give the investor something in return other than a certificate.

    It’s absurd to ask the general public to pony up for something that may or may not produce the results they “project” it will. If a person(s) has enough wealth to acquire a sports franchise, they should have enough to sustain it.

    For all of you talking about build it, build it, build it, have you written your check(s)? Do any of you even live near where they propose to build this thing?

    As someone that moved from Arlington because of the new stadium there, I can assure you, there is NO fun in living around sports complexes.

    Streets are blocked off. Traffic is re-routed. Parking is hell even at the local grocery due to people looking for free parking. All kinds of people are attracted to “game” night. Trying to get home after a long work day or enjoying time out with family are all impacted by the “wonderful” new stadium. Trust me, it is not all peaches and cream. The bottom line is: there is more to financing and building a stadium – than “just get it built”.

    The only way this thing deal should be approved is if it is a 50/50 split b/w the taxpayers and ownership. Sure the community will benefit from some low level to mid-level jobs, certain revenue on game night – or renting of the stadium, etc. But, the biggest winner of them all will be the ownership MAKE NO MISTAKE about it.

    Besides, I think tax-payers can think of other things to throw their hard earned money at – than some multi-millionaire – looking for a handout. If Goodell feels so strongly about it, let him write a check too!

    Before you know, ALL the teams will be looking for a handout!

  21. i10east says: Apr 21, 2012 12:17 AM

    Let me guess Vike fan, it’s Jacksonville’s fault that they are so many hurdles concerning this stadium deal….

  22. Da Bears says: Apr 21, 2012 12:43 AM

    @Bighyzer: totally agreed; both sides are effing this up pretty badly. I don’t think this is even Dem vs Repub at this point, nor do I care. In fact, the two strongest proponents for the stadium are Dems (now that Rybak finally came to the table) and I certainly give them credit for that. Now we just need some people with economic smarts to generate a business case that demonstrates that (as I suspect but cannot confirm until such a biz case arises) this will be a good deal for Minnesotans and those of us that pay taxes in the state.

  23. gadgetdawg says: Apr 21, 2012 1:01 AM

    “However, those markets — Dallas, New York, New England, San Francisco and Washington — are significantly larger markets that allow extensive PSL programs and generate much higher stadium revenues,” Anderson said.
    ———————————–

    Hmmmmm. . . When Carolina built their stadium via PSLs and other private means I don’t recall any public shakedo– umm contribution (maybe a tax break or two?). Is Carolina a much bigger market than Minnesota?

  24. ltkevin says: Apr 21, 2012 1:08 AM

    I have wrote to several of our elected officials here in Minnesota and have not had one reply. As a taxpayer here I am sick of watching the news and seeing funding for all the parks, theaters, statues refurbished and all the artsy crap in the twin cities area. These special interest groups have no problem getting money from the state of Minnesota and what percentage of the population are for this. It is time to clean house and vote everyone of these liberal art a@@holes out of office!

  25. electionconfidential says: Apr 21, 2012 1:30 AM

    This is endgame. They’ll build it soon or the team will leave. I don’t think going to LA is going to be a great fix because that community doesn’t support football… but in any case the writing’s on the wall. This trip by Goodell and Rooney was the last step in the process.

  26. leovsmith says: Apr 21, 2012 2:08 AM

    Since the MN fans are not yet ready to support the Vikings, move the franchise to LA where the money is evidently available.

  27. usedtool says: Apr 21, 2012 2:46 AM

    “It’s absurd to ask the general public to pony up for something that may or may not produce the results they “project” it will.”

    Like the trans-continental railway, nuclear energy, the Tennessee Valley authority, Hoover dam, the interstate highway system, NASA, aircraft carriers, submarines and, come to think of it, the United States of America itself was something that “may or may not produce the results” hoped for but the public ponied up for the revolution anyway.

    “Besides, I think tax-payers can think of other things to throw their hard earned money at – than some multi-millionaire – looking for a handout.”

    So the tax subsidies to the oil companies, property tax relief for businesses (other than the Vikings), billionaires paying lower tax rates than janitors and, stripping firemen of their (publicly funded) retirement in favor of lower estate taxes should be ended immediately.

    First I thought you were a far right wing conservative. Then I thought you were a far left wing liberal. Now I think you are just against the stadium and will throw everything against the wall you can fond in the hope something negative will stick.

  28. fertacrit says: Apr 21, 2012 2:56 AM

    justasecond1 says:Apr 21, 2012 12:13 AM

    1)It’s absurd to ask the general public to pony up for something that may or may not produce the results they “project” it will. If a person(s) has enough wealth to acquire a sports franchise, they should have enough to sustain it.

    2)Streets are blocked off. Traffic is re-routed. Parking is hell even at the local grocery due to people looking for free parking. All kinds of people are attracted to “game” night. Trying to get home after a long work day or enjoying time out with family are all impacted by the “wonderful” new stadium. Trust me, it is not all peaches and cream. The bottom line is: there is more to financing and building a stadium – than “just get it built”.

    3)Sure the community will benefit from some low level to mid-level jobs, certain revenue on game night – or renting of the stadium, etc

    ——————————————————

    Hey Corky,

    90% of professional sports franchises need local help to pay for stadiums. Minnesota is not the first and certainly will not be the last. Like the commish said, it is a privelage to have 1 of 32 NFL teams in your state. Wilf is contributing the 3rd largest private amt, in NFL history, in the 16th biggest markget. So that means 13 other team owners that are just as rich, and in lager markets, needed MORE help from the taxpayers. So take that into consideration before you use the “I don’t wanna help a Billionaire get richer” cuz guess what…when you buy a car…you’re helping a rich person get richer. A cell phone, same thing, a $.75 pack of gum, the same thing.

    On the second clip:
    In the words of Eddie Murphy: If you don’t like it….get the F— out! No one is making you live near a stadium!!!!!!! There are plenty of states that do not have a pro sports stadium. MOVE THERE. Move to Montana, or Kentucky, or Iowa. My guess is you live in the bigger cities because there is more potential for job opportunities, entertainment for your family and possibly an overall better quality of life. Let me guess, your one of those people that goes to a beach then freaks out and complains if you get wet. I have a feeling it is always “someone elses fault” in your world

    Now your 3rd clip:

    If your job depended on a stadium being built, I GUARANTEE you, that your comment would be signifigantly different. There is no such thing as a low level job, just low-level attitudes. It is THOUSANDS of jobs. Not 1, 3, or 50….but 1000′s. Do you not want your neighbors to be employed, to make money? So they can spend time with their family? Because last I checked, if they are unemployed, they could be on welfare, and that is coming out of your pocket anyway, just like the pennies per year that it will cost “Joe Taxpayer” to fund this stadium.

    Just dumb.

  29. tigobitties says: Apr 21, 2012 4:05 AM

    Dear Mr. Dibble…. you are a douche caboose

  30. gweez76 says: Apr 21, 2012 4:11 AM

    Really hope the Vikes stay in Minn. really hope the NFL is forced to pay.

    Getting very tired of their strong arm tactics.

    Force the public to finance a stadium, then make them pay for seats and 20 dollar beers. It’s like someone charging you rent on the house you have a mortgage on.

  31. jusjamn says: Apr 21, 2012 4:41 AM

    Al Gore created the Internet. Ha! What a joke. I was there and he had no clue.

  32. racksie says: Apr 21, 2012 5:45 AM

    While I appreciate Florio’s efforts, he is not a tax paying, Vikings loving, citizen, of Minnesota.

  33. gb4mn0 says: Apr 21, 2012 6:47 AM

    bighyzer says:
    Apr 21, 2012 12:05 AM
    Da Bears says:Apr 20, 2012 11:28 PM

    In order to maintain your facade of objectivity, you should mention that Dibble is a democrat. See, when you deliver bad news and attribute it to repubs, we notice. Do us a favor and call out your own boys when appropriate.
    ———————————————–
    Da Bears, I agree with 90% of what you’re saying but (assuming you’re a Republican by your comments) the fact that Republican TimPawlenty, self admittedly (with many quoted proofs), said that he wouldn’t touch the stadium issue and would leave it to the next administration brought us to this point. As a so-called “legislator” he should have adressed this issue when it was brought to his desk. He ignored it. Hence, here we are. If the Vikings do leave, Republicans are as much to blame as anyone.

    ———————————————-

    Here’s another classic case of buck passing hypocrisy synonymous with Dummycraps. It becomes a necessary predisposed characteristic for you lefty toads to believe your own lies. You embrace intellectual dishonesty as if it is virtuous. It’s the Alinsky way.

  34. mrbigass says: Apr 21, 2012 7:25 AM

    I don’t remember the NFL blowin’ into town to help keep the Oilers in Houston……

  35. pastabelly says: Apr 21, 2012 7:50 AM

    Robert Kraft only got subsidies for infrastructure around Gillette Stadium and got very little from the state and there are no PSLs. Ticket prices aren’t cheap. But at least the People who are using the stadium and not the taxpayers are funding it. Kraft could have moved the team to Connecticut for a totally taxpayer funded stadium. In the end, he didn’t want to be the one to turn on greater Boston. ZIGI has no such ties. All of these franchises would be better off with strong local ownership.

  36. jimbo75025 says: Apr 21, 2012 8:03 AM

    justasecond1 says:
    Apr 21, 2012 12:13 AM
    As someone that moved from Arlington because of the new stadium there, I can assure you, there is NO fun in living around sports complexes.

    Streets are blocked off. Traffic is re-routed. Parking is hell even at the local grocery due to people looking for free parking. All kinds of people are attracted to “game” night. Trying to get home after a long work day or enjoying time out with family are all impacted by the “wonderful” new stadium.

    ____________

    Come now my friend-the baseball stadium is 1/4 mile away. You are saying having 40-50 K people jamming in there 81 times a year did not impact you but 100 K for eight games a year caused you to move? The only grocery stores even close enough to walk to the stadium are the Wal Mart across the street or Kroger across from Hooters. Nobody in their right mind would even try to go to either place during a game anyway. Ten other groceries a mile or two away that would be deserted as hell during a Cowboys game when you would probably be the only person there other than employees. Arlington has all kinds of problems above and beyond the stadium anyway-no way would I want to be anywhere near that area after dark if a game (and hence thousands of generally good-intentioned people about) was not going on.

  37. kirbylaw says: Apr 21, 2012 8:11 AM

    Senator Dibble (whether ‘Republicon’ or ‘Democat’) and the Vike’s responder obviously picked their words carefully. Da Bears, it’s that concern about which ‘potty’ Dibble dribbles from that is the problem.

    Is this truly a decision that must, or even should, be based completely upon the results of a thorough due diligence review of the financials of the deal?

    What about Public Policy considerations? What about doing at least a good thing if not the absolute right thing for the state you represent and reside in, because a reasonable percentage of your population wants an NFL team?

    Sure the billionaires are going win on the financial end. That’s what they do! At least they are not doing it through the NFL by stealing citizen’s homes through predatory loans like some of Minnesota’s well know financial institutions.

    rmavs above is not wrong! The steeler fan may need professional help to detach his self-worth from a sports team. justasecond1, great post; but, you might want to check your math/percentages. I actually understood that the proposed deal”s” did involve substantial private/ownership investment by the Wilf group and the NFL.

  38. nflfan2 says: Apr 21, 2012 8:19 AM

    I spent the first 29 of my 54 years in Minnesota. Have always been a bleeding purple vikings fan. I will always be a vikings fan.

    But if Minnesotan do not want them there, they should leave. They should absolutely put it to a vote. Minnesotans are just stupid enough to NOT pass the measure.

    As proof of the stupidity…
    They voted in Jesse Ventura
    They voted in Al Franken.

    I am really surprised Zygi has been as patient as he has.

  39. cubear34 says: Apr 21, 2012 9:14 AM

    I actually remember al gore saying he invented the internet. still makes me lmfao!!

  40. rabbdogg says: Apr 21, 2012 9:23 AM

    LA vikings…get ready vikequeens fans..lol

  41. squared80 says: Apr 21, 2012 9:33 AM

    The Vikings have also put in the 3rd highest private investment ever in a stadium, and they’re only the 16th biggest market.

  42. squared80 says: Apr 21, 2012 9:40 AM

    nflfan2…

    At least they didn’t vote in George W. Bush. Twice.

  43. rhopperstad says: Apr 21, 2012 9:41 AM

    VERY good point “Da Bears” the political bias shows very clearly in their editing . I’m surprised that your comment hasn’t been censored out ! I’ve had comments deleted / censored while seeing comments that condemn conservatives allowed to stay . Check back , my comments will be gone AND yours ! ! no doubt

  44. packercpa says: Apr 21, 2012 10:36 AM

    Pat Kessler had an article on Stadium financing on Dec. 11th and is listed on the CBS Minnesota website. “The Vikings are putting in $425 million, and no doubt, that’s a significant investment: About 38 percent of the $1.1 billion price tag.

    So here’s what you need to know. The Vikings’ contribution includes up to $150 million in a low interest NFL loan that visiting teams pay when they visit Minnesota. There could also be $75 million from the sale of personal seat licenses.

    Together, they could drop Wilf’s personal stadium stake to less than $225 million. And that’s not the whole story.

    The Vikings $425 million stadium investment may be the third largest in the history of the NFL, but Minnesota’s public share is record setting at $650 million.”

    This is why some people are just not willing to bend over backwards. Zigy is getting a great deal.

  45. josiewales69 says: Apr 21, 2012 2:10 PM

    ziggy might be a billionaire but he also one of the best if not best owners the vikes have had. the coaching staffs since he has been here basically have had a open check book. we spend close to the cap every year. if they move the whole division will suffer. how much money has the state made off of the metrodome since it was built? the loan from the state will not come from the general fund. so build the dang thing and lets get ready to play some foootballl skol vikes

  46. conormacleod says: Apr 21, 2012 2:13 PM

    So, Wilf is getting a great deal in paying 33% of the stadium that he will also have to pay rent in, and only get to use 10 or so days a year? I tell you what, I will pay for 33% of your house, and I only ask that I get to use it 10 days a year. Is that something you would say “Yes” to? If it is, then vote for the stadium as well.

  47. josiewales69 says: Apr 21, 2012 2:15 PM

    it don’t matter what the records are between divisional teams in the north. more often than not they are close and the best to watch next to playoff games. the nfc north division needs all four teams build it and they will come….

  48. johnnyb216 says: Apr 21, 2012 2:35 PM

    Good points made by both sides.

  49. dirtyboy73 says: Apr 21, 2012 5:42 PM

    The thought of no longer watching the Vikings as our home team, as I do with my 3 children. As my father did with my grandfather. As I did with my own father. Leaves a very unsettling feeling in my stomach. Everyone has the right to to an opinion. But those, who we elected that make, what I feel are poor decisions, on what is said to be on our behalf. They will face the people again, asking for our votes to stay in or advance their political positions. To them o say, do not waste your ill breath. You’ll find no support here. Only a movement to ouster you and your agenda. Skoal Vikings. And those who follow.

  50. justasecond1 says: Apr 21, 2012 8:04 PM

    Usedtool:
    I’m not a “far” anything. What I am is a realist. I said it before and I will say it again, let the mofos that want it pay for it. Hell, let the NFL pay for it. I don’t agree in public financing in this case. However, while I don’t agree with it, there are other teams with better standing and
    reputations to at least justify their audacity in asking for their handouts. But, this is the MN Viks. for crying out loud.

    fertacrit:
    Another keyboard dummy. Dude, re-read the post. Secondly, I did get the f out. As for those who remained, why in the hell should they leave? They were there first! Thirdly, you’re kidding right? Who in the hell said anything about welfare? And, if my former neighbors were guaranteed a job – since they are the ones paying the bill – of course I would want them employed. But, since there was no guarantee of jobs to Arlington residents – you know those that paid and are still paying the bill – your point about “LOCALS” having a job is wishful thinking.

    Jimbo:
    I said sports complexes not complex. No, I didn’t live right next to the damn thing. But I did live in Arlington. Of course I was referring to all of the traffic due to the Rangers games as well. Those games had the highways AND side streets
    backed up for miles. All in all, it’s not a good place to live anyway. It’s more entertainment than family living. BTW – I moved because I
    didn’t want to be one of the people footing the bill, not just because of traffic. Jerry is far more wealthier than I. The NFL is a damn dynasty compared to other sports so let them foot the bill, not working men & women.

    Listen, all you “build it” types: I’m frugal with my money. I obviously purchase what I need and want. But, I don’t go after that which I cannot afford. I surely don’t ask anything of others. A new stadium post 911 in this current economic state
    is not only ridiculous, it’s damn ridiculous. Why should people be forced to pay more for every day living in order to fund a stadium that is
    neither necessary, beneficial or crucial. For the majority of people that will be paying, having a new stadium will do nothing to improve their life.

    I said it before, let the people who want the damn thing pay for it. Let the risk takers take the risk. Mark my words, more and more franchises will have their hands out as well.

  51. clintonportisheadd says: Apr 22, 2012 1:24 AM

    It’s a new day and a new age we are in-for those who have not noticed.

    Before the greatest financial implosion in this country since the Great Depression, governments (and taxpayers) were less than diligent in their dealings with pro sports teams looking for handouts (or what they laughably call “public private partnerships). Those days are over.

    When States are broke (as Minnesota is) the NFL and it’s owners should have no expectation of public funds. The internet has made voters smarter (not that one would know from reading the comments of the “just build it” simpletons here at PFT) and smart folks ask questions.

    Questions that no amount of PR and spin from the Vikings and the NFL can overcome. Questions like why should a billionaire not pay his own business costs? Questions like should governments be in the stadium building business? Should voters decide via referendum on these potential expenditures? Should the NFL strong arm cities?

    Some moron responded to a post asking “why billionaires should get public money” with the comment “Because they can”. Maybe before they could but not anymore. Goodell and the NFL ought to know the Viking stadium situation is not an isolated situation. It IS the new reality.

  52. stellarperformance says: Apr 22, 2012 7:00 AM

    rhopperstad says: Apr 21, 2012 9:41 AM
    I’ve had comments deleted / censored while seeing comments that condemn conservatives allowed to stay . Check back , my comments will be gone AND yours ! ! no doubt.
    ===================================

    Good. This is a football site…not Face The Nation.

  53. bighyzer says: Apr 22, 2012 9:44 PM

    @ Da Bears
    You are correct, sir (in my best Ed McMahon voice).

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