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Ex-Saint Dunbar: Gregg Williams “a great guy, a really good person”

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Jo-Lonn Dunbar played linebacker for the Saints from 2009 to 2011, the years when Gregg Williams was running a system of bounties in New Orleans. But Dunbar won’t join in with those who are criticizing the Saints’ former defensive coordinator.

Gregg’s a great guy,” Dunbar told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “A really good person on the field, off the field.”

Dunbar was careful to say, however, that he didn’t participate in any of the bounty-related activities that got Williams suspended.

“I was a young cat,” Dunbar said. “I had nothing to do with that.”

That’s a strange explanation: There have been no suggestions that Williams involved only the older players in the bounties. It’s still unknown which players will face league discipline for the bounty scandal.

Dunbar is now with the Rams, the team that hired Williams before he was indefinitely suspended. Dunbar is disappointed he won’t play for Williams but glad he’ll play for Williams’ son, Blake Williams, who was a Saints assistant the last three years and is now the Rams’ linebackers coach.

“My connection with Blake Williams is one of the things that got me up here,” Dunbar said. “Blake’s a good guy.”

And that’s what Dunbar says about Blake’s dad, too.

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38 Responses to “Ex-Saint Dunbar: Gregg Williams “a great guy, a really good person””
  1. bluefan204 says: Apr 21, 2012 9:54 AM

    Yeah, because lots of “good guys” get suspended indefinitely from the NFL…

  2. sportmentary says: Apr 21, 2012 9:55 AM

    I’m sure there are people saying the same about Sandusky. I’m not trying to compare the two offenses but what Williams did was disgusting.

  3. supergruby says: Apr 21, 2012 10:00 AM

    He was a “young cat” in 2011? Now he’s a seasoned veteran with much wisdom.

    In other news, Kurt von Schleicher says Hitler was a great humanitarian.

  4. soia311 says: Apr 21, 2012 10:11 AM

    Current PFT Commenter Soia311: No he isn’t.

  5. jokendave says: Apr 21, 2012 10:13 AM

    Sorry, trying to end mens careers, not once but continuous and even caught, he lied about it and continued. Is not the sign of a good person. This man has issues and needs to be having help professionaly himself. I good man does not try to end careers for the gradification of a trophy. So keep telling yourself this is a good person. He’s not, and should be out of the NFL forever. The game is tough enough from one game to the next. A person still has to have livelyhood with out added dangers that don’t need to happen.

  6. pacificnw7722 says: Apr 21, 2012 10:59 AM

    “I was a young cat,” Dunbar said. “I had nothing to do with that.”

    Obviously, you weren’t in the “Circle of Trust” like Vilma and others.

    He might seem like a good guy, but what he ordered his players to do was horrible. The man SHOULD not be allowed to coach in the NFL ever again.

  7. 5niner says: Apr 21, 2012 11:09 AM

    Who cares what players think of this guy! He admitted wrong doing and he’s accepting his punishment. Let’s move on from this story already.

  8. sclement65 says: Apr 21, 2012 11:12 AM

    All you idiots take Godell’s word as gospel. No one, including Williams admitted to a pay for injury plan, they did admit to a pay for performance. Why do you think they won’t show anything to the NFLPA. They have no video of the Saints injuring anyone.

  9. daknight93 says: Apr 21, 2012 11:24 AM

    no evidence a bounty program existed in new orleans…why continue to say in articles gregg williams installed a bounty program cause he said that he was guilty…well, evidence has to be provided to back Gregg Williams words…just saying…I can say florio house burned to ground, but does that make it true without evidence it did…where’s nfl evidence? none, nfl admitted they don’t have evidence a bounty program existed.

  10. saints4evah says: Apr 21, 2012 11:27 AM

    Nobody tried to end anybody’s careers. That is straight up hyping of a story. Not one Saints player played dirty. It is trash talk. When my high school coach told me to tear the QB’s head off…I was smart enough to know that if i actually went out there and tried to remove a guy’s head, that it would be wrong. I can also watch Bugs Bunny get Daffy’s head blown to smithereens by tricking Elmer Fudd into blasting him and know it is just lampooning. People, you are acting like you have some sort of plays on your hard drive showing Roman Harper diving at somebody’s knees or something like the 70′s Raiders with brass knuckles wrapped into their hands, when you have nothing but trash talk gone viral. The nanny state mentality is just insane. Not one Saint hurt ANYBODY with legal hits, much less took a dirty shot at an opposing player. You keep repeating this “trying to end somebody’s career” crap as if you believe that if you say enough times, like GODell does, that it makes it the truth and it does not. This false outrage and blustery exasperation is theater, and just sensationalism. You have nothing to substantiate the charges and do nothing of service to the game by trying to hang false charges on players who did nothing to deserve them. Feeding the GODell troll by agreeing with everything he says is asking for more and more trouble. He is out of control, over-reaching and has nobody to put him in check. Just wait…this will bite him in his ass one day…maybe years down the line, but this whole situation has been blown out of proportion and he is setting dangerous levels of BS as the standard. Your team may be next on the “let’s pretend there’s a huge evil going on” show, and your perspective will change. i watch every single Saints game. Every play. Nothing has warranted this witch hunt. Nothing.

  11. jluns275 says: Apr 21, 2012 11:34 AM

    Beginning to wonder just how many former Saints but current Rams coaches & players are going to be suspended. There seem to be an awful lot of them.
    Given the fact Jeff Fisher had hired Gregg Williams, whom he’d coached with & been friends with for decades, Fisher is starting to strike me as the teflon don.
    It’s getting more & more difficult to imagine Williams was not doing the bounty thing with Fisher when they coached together as defensive assitants, & later when Williams worked for Fisher as DC.

  12. 5niner says: Apr 21, 2012 11:46 AM

    Ha, these saints fans are funny. Targeting someone’s ACL, is potentially career ending. Tapping a guys head after previous concussions is potentially career ending. And those are out of William’s mouth. You connect that with the existence of a pay for performance plan, then it’s reasonable for this coach and the other coaches involved to get the punishment they received.

  13. raiderlyfe510 says: Apr 21, 2012 11:56 AM

    I think G Williams was doing what Sean Payton asked of him. I think he was just trying to materialize the defensive vision that Sean Payton conveyed to him.

  14. natefalkirk says: Apr 21, 2012 12:04 PM

    Gregg Williams doesn’t try to appeal his ban…not the action of a falsely-accused guy. The Saints are guilty, they must pay the price. As a Pats fan, the same applied to my team when they were caught taping. Unlike Spygate however, what the Saints were doing had the potential to hurt other players, perhaps permanently. And unlikie Spygate, what the Saints were doing directly undermined the Commish’s efforts to improve player safety. And while it hasn’t gotten alot of press yet, remember the building lawsuit against the NFL from former players. Over 1100+ guys signed on…someday they will get their day in court. Someday Goddell will have to answer the paintiff’s lawyers who will claim the NFL didn’t protect its players. Don’t think the Saints are being punished in a vacuum; Goddell has to position the NFL as protecting its players. The Saints chose the worst time to get caught doing this stuff.

    You do something wrong, you get punished.

    You do something wrong, and lie, deny, and act so brazen about it, you not only get punished, you get made an example of.

  15. sclement65 says: Apr 21, 2012 12:19 PM

    Ha, these saints fans are funny. Targeting someone’s ACL, is potentially career ending. Tapping a guys head after previous concussions is potentially career ending. And those are out of William’s mouth. You connect that with the existence of a pay for performance plan, then it’s reasonable for this coach and the other coaches involved to get the punishment they received.

    Hey Stupid, after that speech the Saints went out and committed zero defensive penalties. Just because Williams ran his mouth, doesn’t mean it happened. No one went after anyone’s ACL.

  16. iamwhodat says: Apr 21, 2012 12:24 PM

    If Goodell is really worried about player safety then he should also suspend the Giants players who targeted the PR Williams in the NFCCG.

  17. jokendave says: Apr 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    Folks, what do you mean he didn’t do it? Listen to the audio and to his confession. What more do you need to get out of denial? Wrong is wrong and the proof is out there. You can’t shove it under the rug. The facts stand in the way of your irrational thinking.

  18. saintsfan1111 says: Apr 21, 2012 12:50 PM

    Regardless of whatever dumb cracks fans (and dead horse beater Florio) have to say, find me one player who didn’t want to play for Williams.

  19. CKL says: Apr 21, 2012 1:15 PM

    Look, the players won’t even testify to this to help the other players who were targets. How in the world can people say that GW won’t be eligible to apply for reinstatement as long as he adheres to what Goodell wants him to do to be eligible? After the league’s coddling of Vick, they’d better give GW a shot to apply for reinstatement. The innocent creatures Vick hurt didn’t have a voice. These targets/participants (note I did NOT say “victims”)DO have a voice and CHOSE not to use it.

  20. jemefree says: Apr 21, 2012 1:57 PM

    Players shouldn’t be guilty they were just following orders

  21. vtopa says: Apr 21, 2012 3:39 PM

    Yawn…another story designed to feed the Saints hatred. Here come the usual banal comments about putting asterisks next to the Superbowl win, about Payton, about the city. Blah blah blah. Dunbar knows Williams as a coach. We know him as a caricature.

  22. 4thqtrsaint says: Apr 21, 2012 5:44 PM

    Allow me to be the hater here.

    The Saints delivered enough cheap shots under Greg Williams. Its time they took a few.

    LOL

    Its great when real haters are predictable.

  23. backtothebowl says: Apr 21, 2012 6:15 PM

    Man boobs is not a nice person. How one could listen to the audio and come to that conclusion is beyond me. Occasionally doing nice things or being nice to an occasional person does not a nice person make.

  24. jluns275 says: Apr 21, 2012 6:58 PM

    Attention Saints apologists:
    Gregg Williams isn’t appealing his suspension for the same reason that all of his previous head coaches aren’t saying much beyond the usual perfuntory “aww shucks, not me, he didn’t do that with MY players”-
    They all know he did it & don’t want to be dragged down with him.
    He’s such a nice guy he can’t get a job in his field due to his unacceptable actions & resulting dishonest behavior in efforts to cover it up.
    If Williams, Payton, Loomis, Benson, & company had been honest with Goodell & stopped after the ill gotten 2009 Super Bowl Victory, things would have turned out completely different.
    Williams would have gotten just a year suspension.
    Payton: half a year.
    Vitt & Loomis: 3 or 4 games each.
    Possibly no forfeited draft picks, just a big fine, similar to the fine levied against Belichek for Spygate.
    All indications suggest that the largely unapologetic Saints players, coaches, leadership, ownership, front office, & organization as a whole will continue attempts to avoid accountability for their misdeeds & take the low road.
    I wonder how long they’ll feel the need to do that before they hit rock bottom & change their dishonorable ways.
    Until & unless they do, this has all been for nought.

  25. dcviking says: Apr 21, 2012 7:21 PM

    It’s funny when news of this first broke, one of the first things I saw was Gregggggggggg apologizing for his actions.

    In major scandals, that never happens — even when people (i.e. Bill Clinton) are caught red-handed. He hasn’t tried to lawyer up and appeal or do anything to provide his spin — therefore, he’s gotta be guilty or stupid or both.

    Add that the cover up and refusal to stop after the league warned them, and we are where we today.

  26. saintsfan26 says: Apr 21, 2012 7:30 PM

    If you people would pull your head out of Goodell’s backside, you would see exactly what is going on here and you would agree that it is total and complete hypocrisy.
    1. The NFL advertises, promotes, and makes ALOT of money off of “Bone-crushing” hits. See all of the videos by the NFL itself called “Top Ten most feared tacklers”. They advertised a guy named Hardy Brown who was known for knocking guys out, and putting them in the hospital. Yes it was 50 years ago, but thats not the point. The point is, the NFL made money off of it today. They made more money off of that program which showed a freakin top 10 list of the hardest hitting players, than any “bounty program” would ever make.
    2. For all of you haters who are going off a 10 minute audio clip of a Defensive coach who is preparing his men for a battle, which by the way, the NFL itself calls its players “warriors, soldiers and monsters”, then i would hate to meet any of you in the real world. Do you always take things literally? I dont know what kind of job you guys do, but have you ever had a boss who was just one of those say whatever he wants kinda guys? Like a funny guy who cusses and spits and rambles on about stuff? Well he uses those kinda words in order to keep you interested in what hes saying. Gregg Williams is one of those guys. He will tell you, “i want you to go in there and knock the f*** outta so and so”.. he is just trying to get his FOOTBALL WARRIORS, in the right frame of mind to do battle! That doesnt mean you are gonna go out there and literally do everything he says to do. It just means you are gonna go out there and put your body on the line for your team and know that somebody else wants to hit you even harder. Thats FOOTBALL! Gregg Williams is a good man.

  27. bp888 says: Apr 21, 2012 8:11 PM

    We should start call them the Aints again

  28. thetooloftools says: Apr 21, 2012 8:21 PM

    This piece of human ~hit needs to be banned forever. You CANNOT EVER put a bounty on injuries. EVER.
    Big hits = pay the man
    Sacks = pay the man
    interceptions = pay the man
    INJURY = nothing
    You don’t have to go there and he did.
    He is sick.

  29. samapoc says: Apr 21, 2012 8:48 PM

    I still haven’t seen anything that is worth suspending. And there is no evidence that Williams has done anything wrong…just accusations from the NFL and some stupid clip of him ranting before a game. And there were no illegal hits by the Saints during the game.

    When I cheer for my teams, I hope they knock the f**k out of the opposing qb. I hope he gets his bell rung and has to sit out. And I hope he gets too rattled to play. Is this really that crazy a stance for football? I don’t think so. And you sissys who can’t take playing hard need to go watch ballet or something.

  30. rajbais says: Apr 21, 2012 9:24 PM

    I agree!!! The media does a bad job in portraying who guys truly are!!!

  31. norcalmafia says: Apr 21, 2012 9:25 PM

    Charles mansons mom says hes a “really good guy”

  32. dcviking says: Apr 21, 2012 11:38 PM

    samapoc says: Apr 21, 2012 8:48 PM

    When I cheer for my teams, I hope they knock the f**k out of the opposing qb. I hope he gets his bell rung and has to sit out. And I hope he gets too rattled to play. Is this really that crazy a stance for football? I don’t think so. And you sissys who can’t take playing hard need to go watch ballet or something.

    ——————————————-

    OK — I’m not arguing against your position, but you indicated that you hope the opposing qb gets his bell rung and has to sit out.

    How badly do you want him hurt? Do you root for RBs to take a shot to the knee so they can’t play as well.

    Do you care if they tear up their ACL so that can’t play and your team can win?

    Would you care if somebody got hurt because of a late hit, or is it all fine?

  33. edenprairieballer says: Apr 22, 2012 12:54 AM

    I heard that Fidel Castro was a great guy and a really good person……..wait, no i didnt mean that!

  34. besdayz says: Apr 22, 2012 2:18 AM

    Its a good thing Williams audio didn’t have him saying Lets knock Frank Gore into next week.

    Otherwise, GW would probably get the Nobel prize for proving time travel and relativity.

  35. tatum064 says: Apr 22, 2012 3:01 AM

    norcalmafia says:
    Apr 21, 2012 9:25 PM
    Charles mansons mom says hes a “really good guy”

    ======

    Both the earlier Hitler comparison and the Manson comparison are both idiotic.

    Williams did wrong, but that isnt even funny.

  36. tatum064 says: Apr 22, 2012 3:03 AM

    jluns275 says:
    Apr 21, 2012 6:58 PM
    Attention Saints apologists:
    Gregg Williams isn’t appealing his suspension for the same reason that all of his previous head coaches aren’t saying much beyond the usual perfuntory “aww shucks, not me, he didn’t do that with MY players”-
    They all know he did it & don’t want to be dragged down with him.
    He’s such a nice guy he can’t get a job in his field due to his unacceptable actions & resulting dishonest behavior in efforts to cover it up.
    If Williams, Payton, Loomis, Benson, & company had been honest with Goodell & stopped after the ill gotten 2009 Super Bowl Victory, things would have turned out completely different.
    Williams would have gotten just a year suspension.
    Payton: half a year.
    Vitt & Loomis: 3 or 4 games each.
    Possibly no forfeited draft picks, just a big fine, similar to the fine levied against Belichek for Spygate.
    All indications suggest that the largely unapologetic Saints players, coaches, leadership, ownership, front office, & organization as a whole will continue attempts to avoid accountability for their misdeeds & take the low road.
    I wonder how long they’ll feel the need to do that before they hit rock bottom & change their dishonorable ways.
    Until & unless they do, this has all been for nought.
    ============

    They’ll still have Drew Brees, Jimmy Graham, a bunch of free agents on defense, and will still be dropping 400 yards of offense routinely. They play in a wack, paper tiger filled division called the NFC South

    They’ll be in the playoffs again REGARDLESS of this entire fiasco…and may possibly advance.

  37. jbmartindale says: Apr 22, 2012 4:51 AM

    I only wish injury amongst Steeler players. I wish Big Ben wasn’t so fat so someone could turkey jones him. Other than that, wishing injury on someone is sick and should be looked down upon.

  38. bluefan204 says: Apr 22, 2012 7:26 AM

    Some of you guys who appear to be applauding when guys get hurt, just because “its football”, need to step back and look at yourselves. Yes, it’s a violent game, and the players all know the risks when they step on the field. I love big hits too, just like any other football fan.

    However, there is a difference between wanting to see a big hit, and wanting to see a guy get “knocked the F out”. Why would you want to see a guy get seriously hurt? Don’t let your hatred of another team make you sound stupid. These guys, no matter what team they suit up for, have my respect. They put their asses on the line to play a game that we all love. At the very least, you should try to have a little bit of respect for them….ALL of them…..for taking such a big chance with their well-being, just to entertain the fans. Yes, they get paid a lot of money, but don’t look at it with such a cynical eye.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I think life would kinda suck without football.

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