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	<title>Comments on: Fifth-year salary a factor in trade talks</title>
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		<title>By: mrpowers88</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doesnt make a difference because it only affects teams that make mistakes in the draft, and are terrible at handling contracts.

1. The teams that don&#039;t screw up their drafts are also teams that normally don&#039;t pick in the top 10-12, and never really find a need to- so they don&#039;t trade up.

2. 1st round picks that outperform their rookie deals will most likely be taken care of by the time their 5th year would start (unless the current RB trend continues, then the&#039;d be stuck in a 5th year).

3. Thus you can really conclude that the only teams involved with these types of decisions will be teams that currently alternate from the bottom 25% of the league to the bottom 50% of the league]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesnt make a difference because it only affects teams that make mistakes in the draft, and are terrible at handling contracts.</p>
<p>1. The teams that don&#8217;t screw up their drafts are also teams that normally don&#8217;t pick in the top 10-12, and never really find a need to- so they don&#8217;t trade up.</p>
<p>2. 1st round picks that outperform their rookie deals will most likely be taken care of by the time their 5th year would start (unless the current RB trend continues, then the&#8217;d be stuck in a 5th year).</p>
<p>3. Thus you can really conclude that the only teams involved with these types of decisions will be teams that currently alternate from the bottom 25% of the league to the bottom 50% of the league</p>
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		<title>By: luffofthegame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[luffofthegame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 01:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Warren Sapp has invested more in his shoe collection than most of us will make in a lifetime. Cry me a river.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Sapp has invested more in his shoe collection than most of us will make in a lifetime. Cry me a river.</p>
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		<title>By: deadeye</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deadeye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So I’m not stopping because their salaries are like water in 76% of their hands. Don’t believe me??? Ask Luther Ellis or Warren Sapp.&quot;

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If players who earned millions of dollars become broke after retiring from the NFL, it&#039;s not because D. Smith is an idiot, it&#039;s because THEY are an idiot. There&#039;s no excuse for any human being with two functioning brain cells to neglect putting ten percent of their paycheck into savings accounts. Only a fool goes broke with that kind of money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So I’m not stopping because their salaries are like water in 76% of their hands. Don’t believe me??? Ask Luther Ellis or Warren Sapp.&#8221;</p>
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<p>If players who earned millions of dollars become broke after retiring from the NFL, it&#8217;s not because D. Smith is an idiot, it&#8217;s because THEY are an idiot. There&#8217;s no excuse for any human being with two functioning brain cells to neglect putting ten percent of their paycheck into savings accounts. Only a fool goes broke with that kind of money.</p>
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		<title>By: nycoccet</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think the players got it handed to them your nuts.  They hardly even have to practice anymore. There are 
so many rules to offseason and in season practices now if they take it any farther they ll only be suiting up on Sundays. They make a lot of money and are doing less and less. I wish they would keep football the way  it is and stop forking with it. Eventually they&#039;re going to ruin the game we all love. You know the game it cost me a little under a grand to take my daughter to a game. If anyone gets hosed its the fans. It&#039;s like there&#039;s an inside joke that the players nd owners are in on and leave us out and giggle there ass off in front of us to rub it in. Just joking....but seriously, what the fork....really]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think the players got it handed to them your nuts.  They hardly even have to practice anymore. There are<br />
so many rules to offseason and in season practices now if they take it any farther they ll only be suiting up on Sundays. They make a lot of money and are doing less and less. I wish they would keep football the way  it is and stop forking with it. Eventually they&#8217;re going to ruin the game we all love. You know the game it cost me a little under a grand to take my daughter to a game. If anyone gets hosed its the fans. It&#8217;s like there&#8217;s an inside joke that the players nd owners are in on and leave us out and giggle there ass off in front of us to rub it in. Just joking&#8230;.but seriously, what the fork&#8230;.really</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your right duanethomas.  That pimp needs to find a new line of work.  All this, the walk out last year causing the lockout and the new CBA could have ALL been avoided if he wasn&#039;t in the picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right duanethomas.  That pimp needs to find a new line of work.  All this, the walk out last year causing the lockout and the new CBA could have ALL been avoided if he wasn&#8217;t in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: jacksaysfu</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 5th year will do nothing to stop teams from making increased draft day trades . Every team will long know if their pick warrants extensions or the boot by year 4... I personally would love to see more player &amp; draft pick wheeling &amp; dealing during draft weekend . Trades always enhance the entertainment , given us fans plenty to celebrate or mock our teams &amp; other teams moves....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 5th year will do nothing to stop teams from making increased draft day trades . Every team will long know if their pick warrants extensions or the boot by year 4&#8230; I personally would love to see more player &amp; draft pick wheeling &amp; dealing during draft weekend . Trades always enhance the entertainment , given us fans plenty to celebrate or mock our teams &amp; other teams moves&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: raiderinva</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sterilizecromartie nailed it....

Do you honestly think that a rookie contract will go longer then the third year for a player like Cam Newton?

Do you think Bruce Allen was wavering on the fifth year of the rookie contract when the Redskins traded to the #2 slot in this years draft?

I also don&#039;t believe it was an issues for Atlanta last year when they bet the farm to trade up to #6 for Julio Jones.

Nut then again what do I know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sterilizecromartie nailed it&#8230;.</p>
<p>Do you honestly think that a rookie contract will go longer then the third year for a player like Cam Newton?</p>
<p>Do you think Bruce Allen was wavering on the fifth year of the rookie contract when the Redskins traded to the #2 slot in this years draft?</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t believe it was an issues for Atlanta last year when they bet the farm to trade up to #6 for Julio Jones.</p>
<p>Nut then again what do I know?</p>
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		<title>By: duanethomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bchapman2011.

You&#039;re making my point, D.Smith despite the evidence of 76% of players ending up broke didn&#039;t even try to put any provision in The CBA for the future welfare for players. Not financially or health care. So I&#039;m not stopping because their salaries are like water in 76% of their hands. Don&#039;t believe me??? Ask Luther Ellis or Warren Sapp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bchapman2011.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making my point, D.Smith despite the evidence of 76% of players ending up broke didn&#8217;t even try to put any provision in The CBA for the future welfare for players. Not financially or health care. So I&#8217;m not stopping because their salaries are like water in 76% of their hands. Don&#8217;t believe me??? Ask Luther Ellis or Warren Sapp.</p>
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		<title>By: franky5fingers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will only matter for developmental top 10 picks and for guys that get injured.  Any good GM will use it to his advantage in trade talks, so it is relevant to a degree I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will only matter for developmental top 10 picks and for guys that get injured.  Any good GM will use it to his advantage in trade talks, so it is relevant to a degree I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: deathtoromo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An anonymous scout said this too is RG3&#039;s fault and Luck is Jesus Christ&#039;s nephew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An anonymous scout said this too is RG3&#8242;s fault and Luck is Jesus Christ&#8217;s nephew.</p>
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		<title>By: bchapman2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 23:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[duanethomas says: 
Apr 22, 2012 6:43 PM 
D. Smith is horrible. The players got it handed to them 
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Stop it........ these players including the ones with minimum contracts make phenominal money. The best thing the players association could do for the players would be to make it mandatory that all players contribute 10 percents of their salary to their own retirements accounts. Even the players that only last 4 or 5 years would be in decent financial shape for the rest of their lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duanethomas says:<br />
Apr 22, 2012 6:43 PM<br />
D. Smith is horrible. The players got it handed to them<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Stop it&#8230;&#8230;.. these players including the ones with minimum contracts make phenominal money. The best thing the players association could do for the players would be to make it mandatory that all players contribute 10 percents of their salary to their own retirements accounts. Even the players that only last 4 or 5 years would be in decent financial shape for the rest of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: sterilizecromartie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t think this is a huge factor.  Take a guy like Gabbert, for example.  If he continues on the path he is on, the Jags will just let him walk after his 4th year.  Meanwhile, a stud top-draft pick (like Cam Newton) will obviously have his 2nd contract done by the time that 4th year is completed.  It is the in-between guys (Ponder, Locker, etc.) who make this a potential issue.

But, basically, if anyone is trading up into the top-ten for a guy they are looking for him to be a franchise guy.  Therefore, they will be expecting to sign him to that 2nd long-term deal at the conclusion of their 4th year anyway.  So, the fifth year option in the first contract probably won&#039;t even cross their mind... at least not this far ahead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t think this is a huge factor.  Take a guy like Gabbert, for example.  If he continues on the path he is on, the Jags will just let him walk after his 4th year.  Meanwhile, a stud top-draft pick (like Cam Newton) will obviously have his 2nd contract done by the time that 4th year is completed.  It is the in-between guys (Ponder, Locker, etc.) who make this a potential issue.</p>
<p>But, basically, if anyone is trading up into the top-ten for a guy they are looking for him to be a franchise guy.  Therefore, they will be expecting to sign him to that 2nd long-term deal at the conclusion of their 4th year anyway.  So, the fifth year option in the first contract probably won&#8217;t even cross their mind&#8230; at least not this far ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: duanethomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D. Smith is horrible. The players got it handed to them .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D. Smith is horrible. The players got it handed to them .</p>
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