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Saints call report of Loomis espionage “1000 percent false”

Mickey Loomis AP

A bad offseason for the Saints keeps getting worse.

John Barr of ESPN reports that the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of Louisiana recently was told that Saints general manager Mickey Loomis “had an electronic device in his Superdome suite that had been secretly re-wired to enable him to eavesdrop on visiting coaching staffs for nearly three NFL seasons.”

Saints spokesman Greg Bensel tells PFT that the allegation is “1000 percent false.”

“We asked ESPN to provide us evidence to support their allegations and they did not,” Bensel said.

Generally citing unnamed “sources,” Barr claims that the device was installed in 2000, when Randy Mueller served as G.M. of the Saints.  It was used at the time to monitor game-day communications involving the Saints’ coaching staff.  Barr contends that, after Loomis took over, “the electronic device was re-wired to listen only to opposing coaches and could no longer be used to listen to any game-day communications between members of the Saints coaching staff.”

The device allegedly was used during the 2002, 2003, and 2004 seasons.

Barr spent plenty of time both online and on camera talking about statutes of limitations for both criminal and civil actions arising from the alleged activities.  Coincidentally, ESPN could end up being the target of a civil case.

“The team and Mickey are seeking all legal recourse regarding these false allegations,” Bensel said.

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106 Responses to “Saints call report of Loomis espionage “1000 percent false””
  1. mjbulls45 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:06 PM

    Brett Favre – you were not meant to make it out alive that game

  2. iamwhodat says: Apr 23, 2012 4:07 PM

    When it rains it pours, I guess.

  3. rexismybff says: Apr 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    “The team and Mickey are seeking all legal recourse regarding these false allegations,” Bensel said.

    ===========================

    Going to go looking for the real killer on Florida golf courses with OJ?

  4. bovice23 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    Loomis blew his chance to be given the benefit of the doubt when he got busted for lying about bountygate.

  5. indyseriesnick says: Apr 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    as a vikes fan
    they robbed our Super Bowl chances with bounties and now theyre paying for it
    just gets better…

  6. buddybowl69 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    And it gets deeper & deeper. Looks like Loomis will be wearing stripes in the near future, and I don’t mean referee stripes either.

  7. biggiesmallsthecondomfilla says: Apr 23, 2012 4:08 PM

    Drew brees needs an explanation

  8. comeonnowguys says: Apr 23, 2012 4:09 PM

    And 100% hilarious. Just revoke the franchise.

    OK, Saints fans, how is THIS worse than Spygate?

  9. blacknole08 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:09 PM

    Wow… 3 seasons?? Really Loomis? Prosecute him if this holds up.

  10. mf7krime says: Apr 23, 2012 4:09 PM

    The NFL should just move the Saints to LA, bulldoze the Super Dome and delete the teams history from the record books.

  11. breadslicer says: Apr 23, 2012 4:09 PM

    Flabbergasted.

  12. NoPayneNoGain51 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:10 PM

    Must of heard Gregg Williams as a visiting coach and thought to himself, We need this guy! CHEATERS! This guy makes Dan Snyder look classy!

  13. paulitik74 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:10 PM

    Well, now if Saints fans want to deny that their team cheats, this puts the icing on the cake.

  14. cakemixa says: Apr 23, 2012 4:11 PM

    Pretty reckless of ESPN, if this turns out to be false.

  15. blacknole08 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:11 PM

    2002: 9-7
    2003: 8-8
    2004: 8-8

    Clearly this had some impact on their wins column.

  16. ckacv111 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:11 PM

    “Saints spokesman Greg Bensel tells PFT that the allegation is “1000 percent false.”

    Ho Ho Ho Hooooooooooo! Fiction can be fun, but I find the reference section a little more enlightening.

  17. paulitik74 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    Every minute that Loomis still keeps his job, is a more of a confession by Benson that his team is guilty.

  18. sg419 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    Cue all the idiots that think the Saints need to forfeit the Lombardy Trophy

  19. rgboogie says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    Lmao @ the saints

  20. unionslie says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    I really really really hope ESPN gets sued.

  21. nolahxc says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    Just effin great!!

  22. ampats says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    Drew Brees wants an explanation.

  23. lolb23 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:12 PM

    All of a sudden Hurricane Katrina is not the worst thing to ever happen to New Orleans.

  24. unionslie says: Apr 23, 2012 4:13 PM

    and I really really hope ESPN loses big…

  25. lolb23 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:13 PM

    Saints makes the Pats look like a bunch of nuns.

  26. mdd913 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:13 PM

    “Come at me bro”

    - Mickey Loomis

  27. nyyjetsknicks says: Apr 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    That’s a dirty thing to do.

    - Metta World Violence

  28. axltcu says: Apr 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    Spygate II: Electronic Re-Wiring Boogaloo?

    Jokes aside this sounds like a load of BS.

  29. mp42245 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:14 PM

    Is called piling on.

  30. peachyc39 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:15 PM

    If it is true it really didn’t help much…lol. They still finished with an average record each one of those years.

  31. 11wheatd says: Apr 23, 2012 4:15 PM

    Haha I’m sorry, but this is too funny. Saints won’t have a draft pick for the next 5 years

  32. farmmbig says: Apr 23, 2012 4:15 PM

    2012—- Let’s pile on the Saints!

  33. detroitcityryda says: Apr 23, 2012 4:15 PM

    What’s next? saints had snitches in every nfl organization ?

  34. christiandrew25 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:16 PM

    Probably the best part about running the Saints at that time WAS the opposing teams coming in to play.

  35. backonthestreet says: Apr 23, 2012 4:16 PM

    The entire team should be banned forever. Theyve crossed the line into “cartoon supervillainy.”

  36. allisab says: Apr 23, 2012 4:16 PM

    I believe them. It’s not like they have a history of lying or covering up their wrong-doings. Oh wait…

  37. greenbay4ever says: Apr 23, 2012 4:16 PM

    Would not surprise me if were true! In fact I am inclined to believe it. The Saint’s have completely fallen off and this sounds inline with how they conduct themselves.

    Oh and Drew Brees is a fraud. He knew all about the bounties.

  38. mvp43 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:17 PM

    If the saints were truly innocent of this accusation, they would’ve said “10,000 percent false”

  39. kidpresentable says: Apr 23, 2012 4:17 PM

    Okay, so if the allegations are true, the Saints will have committed an illegal bounty scandal and an illegal spying scandal. All they need is some sort of boat-related sex scandal and they’ll have themselves a nice little hat trick. Keep it up fellas.

  40. patriotsdefense says: Apr 23, 2012 4:17 PM

    Los Angeles Saints

  41. gisellichek says: Apr 23, 2012 4:17 PM

    humm… ESPN is never wrong… right?
    (I find this wicked funny somehow)…

    I hope ESPN blew this one and the gets crushed in a civil court…

  42. phillyphever says: Apr 23, 2012 4:18 PM

    Once NBCSport Network goes big, ESPN will cease to exist. What a joke they are.

  43. pnut87 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:18 PM

    “unnamed” sources are getting real popular lately…

  44. stevedils says: Apr 23, 2012 4:18 PM

    It is time to consider taking away the Super Bowl title for this franchise. As for the immediate denials regarding this story. If memory serves correct, they denied the bounty allegations for over 2 years also.

  45. csmit44 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:19 PM

    Generally citing unnamed “sources,”

    Look at this point nothing will surprise me…however this is some shoddy reporting. Put a damn name on it if you are going to run with a story. Seems like someone is trying to get 15 mins of fame by piggybacking on the pay for performance scandal.

  46. wicky888 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:19 PM

    Who cares they sucked back then, obviously it didnt help

  47. mike8016 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:21 PM

    Next Drew Brees will demand a trade

  48. wideright91 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:21 PM

    Well Sean Payton is buddies with Bill Bellicheck…
    …just sayin’

  49. camssportsjam says: Apr 23, 2012 4:22 PM

    Wow. When it rains, it pours I guess. This is getting ugly

  50. purplegreenandgold says: Apr 23, 2012 4:22 PM

    letter to the commissioner:

    Please sir announce the player penalties NOW.
    the conspiracy stories are swirling to epic proportion because of your delay in this matter. please kind sir, the media are experimenting on their fiction writing in the absence of this vital information only you can provide. As others have called for “What is the delay!”. The fan base and hater base are eagerly awaiting your voice to calm the ever growing tornado swirling aroung the internet.In closing, please announce the penalties now.

    saints fan

  51. 28loose says: Apr 23, 2012 4:22 PM

    Meh, it probably didn’t help them too much.

  52. NationalFlagFootballLeague says: Apr 23, 2012 4:22 PM

    I think you still need proof these days. Oh wait, this is the NFL. All you need is hearsay and innuendo’s.

  53. tonyromoisterrible says: Apr 23, 2012 4:22 PM

    Did anyone expect them to come right out and admit it? Scumbag organization. Not a surprise.

  54. ninerswilldominatelikebefore says: Apr 23, 2012 4:23 PM

    I LOVE THIS!! NEW ORLEANS your cinderella story is over!! the saddest part is with all this cheating they’ve only one super bowl….hahaha

  55. giantsfan2104 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:24 PM

    “the electronic device was re-wired to listen only to opposing coaches and could no longer be used to listen to any game-day communications between members of the Saints coaching staff.”
    =================================

    Wow. Wire-tapping visiting teams? IF the allegations are true, (I’m a little suspicious) this could bring up a very interesting discussion on gaining a competitive advantage.

  56. wildbillesq says: Apr 23, 2012 4:24 PM

    Assuming there is some truth to this, things are going to go from bad to worse for the Saints…

  57. pgui88 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:25 PM

    ESPN must really love the courtroom.

  58. iluvbears says: Apr 23, 2012 4:25 PM

    If this team didn’t have cheating, they wouldn’t have anything at all. What ever happened to winning games by the rules?

  59. rockthered1286 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:25 PM

    Next? Proving the Saints were responsible for Katrina based on a weather machine they had created in secrecy.

  60. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Apr 23, 2012 4:25 PM

    I’m not a fan of the Saints but this “unnamed source” crap is getting old. Not just with this whole Saints fiasco it’s happening daily.

    Man up or shut up and don’t try to spout off about legally being able to protect sources. This isn’t about government cover ups or murders … it’s about a game of football.

  61. mdd913 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:26 PM

    I have a source in the NFL league office in New York that says Roger Goodell regularly has sex with several different species of farm animals.

    I can’t disclose the source, you’ll just have to trust me…..and now it’s on the internet so it must be the truth!!!

  62. denverwally says: Apr 23, 2012 4:26 PM

    What good is putting a name on the rumor? The Boston Herald named Matt Wash as the person who “filmed” the STL practice before the Super Bowl. And when it came time to admit it under oath and produce evidence, Walsh admitted he never filmed the practice, either in the stadium or from a distance. He was a disgruntled ex-employee trying for revenge. The Herald published a front page apology, but what good did that do? The small brains on these threads will forever think the Pats filmed the practice. New Orleans is screwed, whether its proven or not.

  63. kidpresentable says: Apr 23, 2012 4:27 PM

    “Put a damn name on it if you are going to run with a story…”

    You do realize that you are posting on a website that got famous for running stories attributed to unnamed sources, don’t you?

    Just because a journalist protects his sources by not giving the public the names, does not mean the source does not exist.

  64. bigcali4life says: Apr 23, 2012 4:27 PM

    Just when you thought when it was finally over, the Saints are in another mess. I hope for their sake it’s a false report, but it’s not like people are really trusting of the Saints front office lately.

    If this somehow ends up being true, I’m sure the coaching staff knew about this as well. I say for the benefit of the fans just wipe the slate clean of the staff and restart with a new one. Best way to move on from this whole ordeal the last few months.

    If this is false, the team will seek out legal action to clear their name.

  65. glenne81 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:28 PM

    memmmbberr whhennn allll zemmmzz ‘aintzz fanzz herd of tha bounty thing. and said nawwwwwww.

    well, where there is smoke there is fire baby!

  66. denverwally says: Apr 23, 2012 4:28 PM

    sorry for the typo, it was Matt Walsh.

  67. blackngold4877 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:30 PM

    If ESPN has no actual proof of this I hope the Saints sue them for all they’re worth.

  68. southcakpanther says: Apr 23, 2012 4:30 PM

    Of course they will deny, that’s what cheaters do, they lie.

  69. jagsfansince95 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:32 PM

    I don’t see how ESPN is liable for anything. They are just reporting on an active investigation by the U.S. Dept. of Justice (you know, the sort of thing reporters do for a living). If the Taints want to undertake civil action against someone for alleged “false allegations” they need to find out who reported it to the U.S. Attorney’s office. Of course they would have to wait until the FBI is done investigating to make a claim that any allegations were “false”.

    However, we all know it is probably true, given the Taints track record. Maybe the best course of action for the NFL is to just revoke the Taints NFL membership and award a team to one of the L.A. groups. That would solve several problems at once.

  70. mattwalshvideo says: Apr 23, 2012 4:32 PM

    Bill Belicheat approves.

  71. das14 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:35 PM

    The Saints are also responsible for the space program ending. Shame on them.

  72. bigjdve says: Apr 23, 2012 4:37 PM

    wow – you just can’t make this stuff up.

  73. flannlv says: Apr 23, 2012 4:37 PM

    ESPN fabricating a story? No way. Syracuse ring a bell? See what ESPN says when they get sued.

  74. medtxpack says: Apr 23, 2012 4:39 PM

    oddly enough, this one I believe….

  75. 3octaveFart says: Apr 23, 2012 4:39 PM

    “Saints call report of Loomis espionage “1000 percent false””

    ..because saying “1,000 percent” carries so much more weight than just saying “100 percent”… :roll:

  76. mdd913 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:39 PM

    kidpresentable says: Apr 23, 2012 4:27 PM
    Just because a journalist protects his sources by not giving the public the names, does not mean the source does not exist.

    ————————————————————-

    I have worked in journalism for near 15 years and I have never used an anonymous source in a story. It’s lazy, unethical, and downright dangerous.

  77. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Apr 23, 2012 4:42 PM

    This just in : ” Anonymous sources claim Loomis and Payton told a group of 1st graders that there was NO Santa Claus”

  78. mdd913 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:43 PM

    denverwally says: Apr 23, 2012 4:26 PM

    What good is putting a name on the rumor? The Boston Herald named Matt Wash as the person who “filmed” the STL practice before the Super Bowl. And when it came time to admit it under oath and produce evidence, Walsh admitted he never filmed the practice, either in the stadium or from a distance. He was a disgruntled ex-employee trying for revenge. The Herald published a front page apology, but what good did that do? The small brains on these threads will forever think the Pats filmed the practice. New Orleans is screwed, whether its proven or not.

    ————————————————————–

    This is very true and it reinforces the fallacies of the so-called “information age”.

    Any dork with an axe to grind and some outlet can start any rumor they want and the sheep will blindly eat it up.

    I’ve got an anonymous source that says Roger Goodell has sex with farm animals. Hey! It’s on the internet so it must be true.

  79. bryans49ers says: Apr 23, 2012 4:44 PM

    When the Saints say nothing happened, we all know something happened. . Get the dagger ready Roger

  80. blacksaint213 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:46 PM

    My goodness this site must have either a bunch of kids posting to this or just people who have no job and nothing to do all day. Get real people all you saints haters this is nothing and ESPN way of showing how much they want to be the #1 story. Oh lets talk about something the saints are doing. This is totally bogus and I hope Loomis sue whoever put this report out.

    Get a life people the Saints are not going any where read for once! 85 million dollars in construction for the dome. They have the most updated stadium in the league. Oh yeh funny none of the players got suspended at this time.. Humm I wonder why??

  81. chiadam says: Apr 23, 2012 4:50 PM

    Loomis was also seen hiding in the suite, disguised as a potted plant. ESPN reports it was the same disguise he wore when he shot Kennedy.

  82. kuantan97 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:52 PM

    You left the Ravens for this, Ben Grubbs?

  83. baddegg says: Apr 23, 2012 4:53 PM

    Tell us again how this situation was not as bad as Spygate…

  84. kidpresentable says: Apr 23, 2012 4:53 PM

    “I have worked in journalism for near 15 years and I have never used an anonymous source in a story. It’s lazy, unethical, and downright dangerous.”

    I too have worked in journalism. If you are reporting in an area where there is some level of secrecy like sports or politics on the low-end or national security on the high end, if you want to get dirt, the person dishing the dirt needs to be protected from any backlash from his or her employer. It’s why media outlets have things like editors and fact checkers who can follow-up with the unnamed sources. Even if the source is no longer working for the Saints, will any other NFL team hire him if they believe he will leak team secrets? Are teams lining up to hire Eric Mangini as an assistant coach?

  85. all32 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:55 PM

    The team that keeps on giving the whole year long…

  86. blacksaint213 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:56 PM

    What is the next thing they are going to say. The Saints rigged the draft to get Archie Manning, or M. Dikta talked to ricky williams before drafting him. Watch and see how many comments from these fools buy in that and believe it.

    Yet if one person that is on this page had one alleged thing against them they would be crying wolf and wanting to sue. Please stop all the madness.

  87. desertviking64 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:02 PM

    1000% isn’t 100% as high as you can go?
    Think they said the same thing when asked about the bounty.

  88. mdd913 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:03 PM

    If you are reporting in an area where there is some level of secrecy like sports or politics on the low-end or national security on the high end, if you want to get dirt, the person dishing the dirt needs to be protected from any backlash from his or her employer.

    ——————————————————————

    Let’s just say this is not a case of national security.

  89. purplekoolaid1 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:05 PM

    The Saints spokesman denying this report is the equivalent of a parent defending their kid when they get into a situation where they weren’t in the right. Did anyone expect anything different?

  90. johntonioholmes says: Apr 23, 2012 5:06 PM

    #improperfractions.

  91. r8rs4life says: Apr 23, 2012 5:06 PM

    Warren Sapp says:

    “My sources tell me Jeremy Shockey did the electrical work”

  92. jagsfansince95 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:09 PM

    mdd913 says:Apr 23, 2012 4:43 PM

    This is very true and it reinforces the fallacies of the so-called “information age”.

    Any dork with an axe to grind and some outlet can start any rumor they want and the sheep will blindly eat it up.

    I’ve got an anonymous source that says Roger Goodell has sex with farm animals. Hey! It’s on the internet so it must be true.
    ————————————————————–

    This has nothing to do with an “anonymous source” as a product of “the so-called information age”. The “anonymous source” is obviously the same source that reported it to the U.S. Atorney’s office.

    If you had witnessed a murder and reported it to the authorities and then notified your local media about said murder to make sure the public was aware of it – would you want the media to disclose your name while the investigation was still going on? Didn’t think so.

    I dislike ESPN as much as the next guy, but they are not in any way at fault here. They verified the allegations with the U.S. Dept. of Justice BEFORE reporting on it.

  93. patsfan1951 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:16 PM

    Revoke the Saints franchise and relocate the Vikings to the Superdome! Brilliant!!

  94. whatnojets says: Apr 23, 2012 5:21 PM

    And people say that The New York Jets have major “issues”!!! This team is “shaked and baked”!

  95. Wisconsin77 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:28 PM

    Are you kidding me? Revoke the Superbowl trophy immediately. It is pretty much worthless at this point any way since nobody respects the Saint’s Super Bowl win anymore.

  96. musicman495 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:38 PM

    mjbulls45 says: Apr 23, 2012 4:06 PM

    Brett Favre – you were not meant to make it out alive that game
    ———————————–
    Please read the story:

    “The device allegedly was used during the 2002, 2003, and 2004 seasons.”

    Not 2009, genius.

  97. kevpft says: Apr 23, 2012 5:49 PM

    Never trust anyone who says that anything is “1000%” anything. (Well, except for statisticians in certain cases, etc.) It’s like using multiple exclamation points – it immediately calls into question the basic credibility of the person doing it.

  98. mogogo1 says: Apr 23, 2012 5:57 PM

    The Saints should have dumped Loomis when the bounty stories were first confirmed. (I can see them not wanting to lose a Super Bowl winning coach, but somebody needed to get fired over the scandal.) By keeping everybody involved in the bounties, they’ve left themselves wide open for continued new allegations.

  99. sajeddk says: Apr 23, 2012 6:11 PM

    It’s nice to finally see other teams getting caught besides the patriots and jets….just further proof all teams will do whatever they can to get an advantage. Now people might finally stop bitching about the arc east being the biggest cheaters in the league

  100. rajbais says: Apr 23, 2012 7:10 PM

    2002-2004???

    Statute of frigging limitations???

    Are uncaught steroid users suspended or punished by the NFL?????
    No!!!!

  101. duece5 says: Apr 23, 2012 7:16 PM

    Bill Belicheck is horrified at the allegations!

    Oh, and HE also wants an explanation……after Drew of course!

  102. CKL says: Apr 23, 2012 7:46 PM

    cakemixa says: Apr 23, 2012 4:11 PM

    Pretty reckless of ESPN, if this turns out to be false.
    __________________________________
    I haven’t seen enough evidence to believe if this is true or not and I feel for the good, rational Saints fans for all of this mess. That said, I love it for ones like you who harp on and on about my team’s mess ups in a very patronizing way. How’s that shoe fit? Do you like all the ignorance you see out there now that it’s YOUR team?

  103. Mr. Wright 212 says: Apr 23, 2012 9:33 PM

    Meaning it is true.

  104. xli2006 says: Apr 23, 2012 10:22 PM

    Saints??? What is going on down there? Yikes. Any good vibes or PR they built up has completely vanished this offseason. They are rapidly turning into one of the leagues most despised teams.

  105. axespray says: Apr 24, 2012 3:59 PM

    In the future, I will say that viking fans embarassing themselves with these knee jerk reactions was pretty funny.

    “and they kept demanding that the nfl vacate the saints superbowl win… lol.”

  106. deiong says: Apr 24, 2012 4:23 PM

    “1000 percent false”
    yet 100 percent true, that he did do it…. wonder how that can work itself out????

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