NFL Films responds: Tebow has box-office appeal

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We scoffed this morning at NFL Films for including Tim Tebow in its list of the Top 10 Heisman Trophy winners in NFL history, and now NFL Films has responded.

In a post at the official blog of NFL Films, the producers of Top 10 Heisman Trophy Winners in the NFL say the list wasn’t intended simply to rank the 10 best NFL players who won the Heisman Trophy. Instead, there were a combination of factors:

Who had the best NFL career?
Who had signature plays and great moments?
Who had box-office appeal? Who sells tickets? Who sells jerseys?
Who has cultural resonance? Who passes the Mom test?

Well, it’s true that Tebow passes the Mom test. My mom called me when she heard the Broncos were considering signing Peyton Manning and asked why they’d do that when they already had Tebow. So if a player’s ability to get mothers and sons talking about the NFL is one of the criteria, I guess Tebow qualifies. (My mom has never called me to discuss Troy Smith or Matt Leinart.)

But I don’t think my mom would claim that her own curiosity about Tebow should have any bearing on a list of the Top 10 Heisman Trophy winners in NFL history. Yes, Tebow currently has a lot of box-office appeal, sells jerseys and has cultural resonance, but the first question is the one that should really count: Who had the best NFL career?

And when that question comes first, it’s silly to rank Tebow ahead of three Pro Football Hall of Famers.

86 responses to “NFL Films responds: Tebow has box-office appeal

  1. I wish my mom loved Tebow instead of that utterly boorish cad Roethlisberger. He can do NO wrong in her eyes. Ugh.

  2. “but the first question is the one that should really count: Who had the best NFL career?”

    Keyword is “career!” I’m a Tebow fan not fanatic so I can realize the kid still hasn’t had a full NFL season of starts and people are talking about his career?

    Our societies demand for instant gratification is going to be our undoing.

  3. Well in fairness to NFL films, it is their list. They can set any criteria they want.

    Just like many would call you crazy for ranking Kyle Orton 20 places higher than Alex Smith on the hot free agent list you relased just this year. (My guess is you couldn’t find 20 niners fans in the entire world to choose Orton over Alex Smith)

  4. Was NFL Films also on the bandwagon that Peyton Manning should’ve been the MVP last year?

    Honestly, that ranking is embarrassing for people, like me, who type comments into a little square box, much less NFL Films.

    As I’m sure someone will say, add the creators of that list to the plaintiffs side in the concussion suit.

  5. Seriously?
    Now i have heard everything!

    Box office appeal?
    Cultural resonance?
    MOM APPEAL?

    These are the criteria by selecting the top Heisman winners? How utterly assinine.

    This Mom says Tebow isn’t even in the top 10 punt formation blockers.

  6. “And when that question comes first, it’s silly to rank Tebow ahead of three Pro Football Hall of Famers.”

    I think that should read: “It’s silly to rank Tebow ahead of any Pro Football Hall of Famers.”

    If Tim Tebow makes it into the Hall of Fame I am going to stop caring about football.

  7. Who cares? Tebow is a tool. The thought of mentioning him in the same sentence as players like Barry Sanders is laughable. Oh wait, God probably didn’t love Barry Sanders as much.

  8. You are forgetting a cardinal rule of life, MDS.

    “Who knows best?”

    Does Dad know best? Does Uncle Bud know best? Does your layabout posse know best? The Korean guy at the corner store? No.

  9. You ppl just keep hating on Tebow.

    He has done nothing wrong and still hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do in the NFL yet you ppl and the media rip him to shreds.

    I am sure you ppl would rather root for (and defend) a drug dealin’, dog killin’, wife beatin’ rapist who has no moral or religious compass.

  10. I’m pretty sure MDS knew when he wrote this he’d have to filter through all the comments about his mom and block them and since I’m sure none will be allowed on the site this story is now much, much less itneresting. Sensorship is wrong!!!

  11. Even though I’m a fan of a different team, I must confess to being a Tebow fan. He just wins.
    That said, that NFL Films Top 10 Heisman winners list was a travesty.
    Just to make it reasonable & fair, no current players should be on the list, because their careers are not yet complete.
    Also, even though I’m a rabid RaiderHater, how exactly was Marcus Allen that far down on the list, & Tim Brown not even on the list?
    Embarrassing effort by NFL Films, & an even more embarrassing excuse.
    For shame, NFL Films. For shame.

  12. Whoa!!! MDS is flaming!!!

    I have to give credit to a guy that I can disagree with at times!!!

  13. WOW…..that is the WEAKEST response I have ever heard in my life…..NFL Films should be embarrassed about the story and even more embarrassed about their response

  14. If Tim Tebow were black, you ppl would not be rippin’ him like you do.

    In fact you’d be rippin’ the Broncos for not giving him a chance and you’d scream like crazy if a team dare change him from QB to another position….b/c that would just be “racist”

    But Tebow is white so rip away…

  15. So it’s official. NFL Films has now composed a list that includes Kardashian players, that are simply famous for doing nothing.

  16. After reading the lead post and now reading how NFL Films has shoe horned Tebow onto a list that is a complete insult to all HOF players and every player who has been a part of the NFL no matter how small their roll. And what an insult it is to fans to be treated this way…NFL Films and the NFL have zero credibility.

  17. BOOO! I though we were done with this turd. Please media… stop jamming Tebow down our throats! So Glad we have REAL QB’s coming into the league in Luck and Griffin, least they will deserve the attention they get

  18. Again. Tim Tebow didn’t create this list and attacking him does little good. Meanwhile these nameless clowns over at the Network are blatantly selling out. The history of the game sells itself! I get that they can use whatever criteria they see fit, but a few of these make you LITERALLY gag! Who gives a flying F how many jerseys Barry Sanders sold? Not me! I loved watching him play! What a great CAREER he had! Involving Tebow and Cam with this list is absurd with their combined 3 PRO seasons. I’m getting madder as I type! One of the few things we can all agree on is that the history of this game is replete with great players and men and its a slap in the face to the foundation of the GAME to add these two young men to this list at this time. I hope they both have remarkable careers though and can be considered amongst the men NFL Network thinks they’ve already surpassed.

  19. If Tebow were black, I will still rip him. Playing the race card is ridiculous. I rip him because he is nothing but a gimmick Quarterback and he sucks. Outside of the playoff win against the Steelers, his defense completely carried him through his anemic stretch of games. That Thursday Night against the Jets was one of the worst offensive football games I have ever witnessed. The Jets now have the two worst QBs in the league.

  20. What a bunch of idiotic posts. Maybe he could kill someone driving drunk, make it rain in strip club, assault a girl in a restroom, torture a dog…or at the very least sext his unit to a female sideline reporter so you can all start cheering for the guy.

  21. To put it in plain English, the producer of NFL films is a holy rollin’ pro lifer and wants his daughter to have Tebow’s baby.

  22. racksie says: Apr 24, 2012 1:36 PM

    So, CKL’s mom is Deb? How can any woman like anything about Roethlisburger?
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    #1, Deb is probably younger than I am so that’s impossible.
    #2, she doesn’t LIKE most of his behavior either, she respects his abilities. But she’s probably more tolerant of him than I am because he’s her team’s QB. If my mom acted like Deb about BR, I would LOVE it because Deb is MUCH more realistic about him.

    That said, I think most of us fans from time to time have to hold out noses for some of the players our franchises have on their roster. I know I have.

  23. So by that reckoning NFL Films could put Tebow into their ‘Top Ten Quarterbacks in the NFL’ as he has more appeal than Otto Graham. If you are going to title something Top Ten and you are not Letterman then you need to quantify your list with something like Top Ten intriguing or something along those lines. Also by their reckoning Bo Jackson should have been a lock to be on the list, top 5 at least. He was one of the most marketed athletes of his time and he passed the Mom test back then, he damn well sold jerseys (there are still Jackson Raider Jersey’s seen at games).

    Bo Knows NFL Films messed up!

  24. dryzzt23 says:
    Apr 24, 2012 1:29 PM
    You ppl just keep hating on Tebow.

    He has done nothing wrong and still hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do in the NFL yet you ppl and the media rip him to shreds.

    I am sure you ppl would rather root for (and defend) a drug dealin’, dog killin’, wife beatin’ rapist who has no moral or religious compass.

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    Since no one has yet to respond to this I’ll throw my hat in there.

    So obviously your comment has NOTHING to do with football. No one is hating on Tebow as a person. He’s a great person. The issue is his Quarterbacking ability which is TERRIBLE.
    What you seem to be taking a stance on is you think people hate him because of his religious background. Ask yourself this next time “if Tebow were Islamic would you still root for him as a person? Would he still be great in your mind? ”
    It’s like that tool from the 700 club, it has nothing to do with HIM AS A PERSON it is all about him as a player!

  25. After a few years of Tebow’s “actual play” the buzz will wear off. Unless he morphs into a suitable QB, his appeal can only carry him so far. The NY media will NOT put up with a charade long term if in fact the Broncos season last year was the enigma that it appeared to be. If NY tried to get Sanchez booted, they will eat Tebow alive.

  26. Sorry, but I think NFL films is doing their part to demonize Tebow and turn the public against him. There is no other reason for doing this.

    Tebow more prominent than Earl Campbell? Anyone with any knowledge of NFL history knows such a suggestion is absurd. This is like suggesting that Tony Eason was a more prominent QB than Tom Brady because Eason had a couple of good years and led the Pats to their first Super Bowl.

    NFL Films wants to see Tebow torn down. He didn’t fail when he was supposed to last year, so demonize the heck out of him, and get everyone rooting for him to fail.

  27. dryzzt23 says:
    Apr 24, 2012 1:36 PM
    If Tim Tebow were black, you ppl would not be rippin’ him like you do.

    In fact you’d be rippin’ the Broncos for not giving him a chance and you’d scream like crazy if a team dare change him from QB to another position….b/c that would just be “racist”

    But Tebow is white so rip away…

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    Actually, idiot, if Tebow were black or Latino or if he looked like Andy Dalton, he would be just another NFL player. Since he’s handsome, muscular and white, his simple minded fans follow him around like a bunch of love sick puppies.

  28. I watched the show last night and knew it was bs when the y had Cam at #10. But putting Tebow on the list ahead of Allen and Campbell is an insult to anyone who knows the history of the NFL.

  29. yahmule, don’t sell that s**t to me.

    No players are more overhyped than black players. That is a fact.
    See:
    Newton, Cam
    Vick, Mike
    RG3
    JaMarcus Russell

    Andrew Luck has barely been hyped at all.

    If Tebow were black AND religious, then no one could ever dare criticize him and you know it lest they be branded a “racist”

    But the kid doesn’t do or deal drugs, kill dogs, murder innocent people, lie to Congress, cheat on his wife, or rape anybody. Therefore, you want to tear him down for no rational reason.

  30. Ryan Leaf also has box-office appeal.

    If there were a movie about what that degenerate has done to himself and a movie about Tebow, you can bet your ass I’d go see the Ryan Leaf Movie over the Tebow movie. Far more entertaining.

    I know Leaf was only a Heisman finalist, but all the same…the metric they’ve invented here doesn’t make any damn sense.

  31. NO!!!!! If you are going to use that argument, you put Bo Jackson on the list. Bo Knows (1) selling tickets, (2) drawing ratings, (3) signature moments, (4) selling jerseys, AND he was an incredible 2-sport player until he blew out his knees. He was also NOT hated and universally loved. Bo Knows that Tebow Sucks.

  32. It’s amazing that most of the reasons people hate Tebow are things he has no control over.

  33. yahmule says: Apr 24, 2012 1:32 PM

    Ed Sabol is rolling over in his grave.

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    Mr. Sabol is still alive and breathing. Although he might not be after he sees this.

  34. dryzzt23 says:
    Apr 24, 2012 1:29 PM
    You ppl just keep hating on Tebow.

    He has done nothing wrong and still hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do in the NFL yet you ppl and the media rip him to shreds.

    I am sure you ppl would rather root for (and defend) a drug dealin’, dog killin’, wife beatin’ rapist who has no moral or religious compass
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    Dude what are you talking about?? I dont think anyone is hating on your boy Tebow. I happen to like Tebow. But, THe problem is, THe media is force feeding him on us. ITs no way you can say he belongs on this list.

    dryzzt23 says:
    Apr 24, 2012 1:36 PM
    If Tim Tebow were black, you ppl would not be rippin’ him like you do.

    In fact you’d be rippin’ the Broncos for not giving him a chance and you’d scream like crazy if a team dare change him from QB to another position….b/c that would just be “racist”

    But Tebow is white so rip away…
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    Wow. IS that really how white people feel?? TO me, THis isnt a color thing. Tebow did get his chance and he won games. It was his GM that didnt want him. So, its not black people thats against him. Elway is white. I admirer Tim for not changing his position. For wanting to be what he has been his whole life, A QB. But, To make this a race thing is just mindless and stupid. Just like that top ten list from the NFL Network…

  35. They actually manage to sound dumber than they did when they put the list together.

    Did they list this ridiculous criteria in the video?

    “This list is partially based upon jersey sales and CULTURAL RELEVANCE”?

    Ed Sabol must be rolling over in his grave.

    Wait. Ed Sabol is still alive?

    Scratch that.

  36. Dear Lord baby Tebow, lyin’ there in your ghost manger, just lookin’ at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin’ ’bout shapes and colors. I would like to thank you for bringin’ me and my mama together.

  37. Just as the Hall of Fame has the criteria of not allowing ACTIVE players to be nominated for the Hall, NFL Films should NOT include ACTIVE players in their list if main measuring stick is the player’s CAREER!

    I find it utterly disrespectful for NFL Films to place Newton and Tebow amongst the GREATEST of NFL Players! Newton’s ONE season stats and Tebow’s ONE SEASON of SEMI-production cannot conceivably compare with the likes of the other players on the list and their LIFETIME of Pro Football work/stats/productivity!

    Just utterly DISRESPECTFUL!!!

  38. I think they’re answer was actually about why he was on the list as opposed to why he deserved to be on the list and that’s box office appeal.

  39. dryzzt23 says:
    Apr 24, 2012 2:09 PM
    yahmule, don’t sell that s**t to me.

    No players are more overhyped than black players. That is a fact.
    See:
    Newton, Cam
    Vick, Mike
    RG3
    JaMarcus Russell

    Andrew Luck has barely been hyped at all.

    If Tebow were black AND religious, then no one could ever dare criticize him and you know it lest they be branded a “racist”

    But the kid doesn’t do or deal drugs, kill dogs, murder innocent people, lie to Congress, cheat on his wife, or rape anybody. Therefore, you want to tear him down for no rational reason.

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    Hateful fake Christian bigots like you are the reason Tebow is due for a huge backlash.

  40. Tebow is either hated or loved, there is no in between.

    He is so well known and talked about that even my own mother has mentioned him to me. She follows the Buffalo Bills, but seemed to know more about Tebow than Bills starting QB Ryan Fitzpatrick.

    Tebow is larger than life. Expect to hear about him for the next ten years or so.

  41. It gives me a brain tumor reading how stupid people are. The title of the rankings is, Top 10 Heisman Trophy Winners in the NFL. Meaning the top 10 people that have won the Heisman that played in the NFL. Not the best NFL players who happened to win the Heisman. Tim Tebow was probably the greatest player in college football history and won the Heisman. He also plays in the NFL. It is not that hard.

  42. As said earlier by many others, Bo knows Heismans not being on this list serves as proof that NFL Films is just trolling.

    Who had more signature plays, more great moments, more box office appeal, sold more tickets, more jerseys, and had big cultural resonance?

    Bo Jackson did. And he was a great, great football player, to boot. That the TCIPF Staff’s Moms wouldn’t agree is immaterial.

  43. Hey broncos81,

    No reasonable person has even suggested that Tim is the “greatest player in college football history”. Pull your head out of this guy’s jock. Pathetic.

    Also, the very first criterion listed is… Who had the best NFL career? Did you miss that part? It’s the very first one. Dumbass.

  44. mrplow3 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:22 PM

    Well in fairness to NFL films, it is their list. They can set any criteria they want.
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    You don’t get it. NFL Films just ignored THEIR OWN main criteria. They listed the best 10 NFL CAREERS of all the former Heisman Trophy winners…and THEY listed a ROOKIE Cam Newton at #10 of ALL past NFL players and placed 2nd year player Tim Tebow (who was utter garbage for 3-1/2 quarters per game), AHEAD of EARL CAMPBELL AND MARCUS ALLEN? Are you kidding me?

  45. I would take Reggie’s Bush before Tebow.

    You know, Jennifer Aniston has box office appeal too. That doesn’t mean she’s a top 10 actress.

    NFL films is a complete joke anyway

  46. broncos81

    Dude, are you that dense? Three Heisman winners WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE NFL HALL OF FAME were not on that list.

    Like I said earlier, I would take Reggie Bush before Tebow.

  47. Don’t be fools! Get rid of this notion that the NFL is a noble cosmic battle between the forces of good against the forces of evil.

    The NFL IS A BUSINESS and its objective is to attract MONEY!

    Tebow is better than most players, past or present, at attracting fans and dollars to the NFL.

  48. @sirhulka If Tebow were black, I will still rip him. Playing the race card is ridiculous. I rip him because he is nothing but a gimmick Quarterback and he sucks. Outside of the playoff win against the Steelers, his defense completely carried him through his anemic stretch of games. That Thursday Night against the Jets was one of the worst offensive football games I have ever witnessed. The Jets now have the two worst QBs in the league.

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    Once again, everybody forgets about the Jags!…I really don’t think your giving Blaine Gabbert enough credit.

  49. @dryzzt23 wrote “Andrew Luck has been barely hyped at all.”

    This quote makes clear how delusional you are. For the past two years, Andrew Luck has been declared the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning. Do you even follow football?

  50. Who had box-office appeal? Who sells tickets? Who sells jerseys?
    Who has cultural resonance? Who passes the Mom test?

    The true metrics of measuring one as one of the “Top 10 Heisman Trophy Winners in the NFL”.
    They should just rename it the “NFL Pop Culture Winners for 2011” and drop the other nine guys from the list!!

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