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Tannehill may join Quinn and Rodgers, slide out of Top 20

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Two of the deepest draft-day slides in recent memory came from a pair of quarterbacks, Brady Quinn in 2007 and Aaron Rodgers in 2005, who fell all the way out of the Top 20. At least one NFL executive thinks a third quarterback could join that group on Thursday night.

Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill will be the third quarterback off the board, after Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III, but he could fall much further than most people expect, according to an executive who talked to Ian Rapoport of NFL.com.

“The one that’s gonna shake things up is Tannehill,” the high-ranking AFC personnel chief said. “I don’t think a lot of teams think of him as a first-round pick. I can see a situation where he doesn’t go at all in the top 20. That’s really going to change things. You got a guy who started for a year and a half. He hasn’t really been, from a team perspective, a winning quarterback. He’s got good numbers, there’s a lot of things there (to like). But they lost a lot of games in the fourth quarter. Why is he not pulling things out? Why are they losing games?”

If “a lot of teams” view Tannehill as less than a first-round pick, that could be a problem for him. However, it only takes one team to pull the trigger on Tannehill high in the first round. Many observers think the Dolphins — whose offensive coordinator, Mike Sherman, was Tannehill’s college coach — will be that team that takes Tannehill at No. 8. So Miami could be the team that stops Tannehill from falling too far.

The flip side of that is if the Dolphins pass on Tannehill, it could scare other teams away. That’s a scenario being floated by another NFL decision maker.

“If Miami doesn’t grab him, and they got Mike Sherman there, the teams behind them are going to start questioning, what the hell are we doing taking him?” he said. “If his own coach won’t take him, why are we taking him?”

Tannehill will hope that’s a question no one needs to ask on Thursday night.

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68 Responses to “Tannehill may join Quinn and Rodgers, slide out of Top 20”
  1. jaggedmark says: Apr 24, 2012 11:55 AM

    Some of us have been expecting this. This talk of Tannehill going between 3 and 7 is complete nonsense.

  2. Broncofanatic7 says: Apr 24, 2012 11:57 AM

    He will be gone at 8.

  3. linvillegorge says: Apr 24, 2012 11:57 AM

    It’d be the best thing for the kid. He’s not ready to play right away in the NFL and if he’s a top 10 pick, the pressure will be there to play him right away. He’d be much better off to hold a clipboard for a season or two.

  4. dukemarc says: Apr 24, 2012 11:57 AM

    How is it a “slide” when he never belonged in the Top 20 in the first place?

  5. tom35mt says: Apr 24, 2012 11:57 AM

    this is a totally different situation than with Rodgers and Quinn.
    Tannehill is projected in the top 10 by default, because teams are now more than ever desperate for QBs.
    People thought A-rod and Quinn were top 5 players.

    no one ever said that about Tannehill.

  6. linvillegorge says: Apr 24, 2012 11:59 AM

    All it takes is one Jacksonville Jaguars to take a kid way too high. Blaine Gabbert should’ve been a late 1st rounder.

  7. dukemarc says: Apr 24, 2012 11:59 AM

    That’s the last time Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers should be associated in the same sentence, ever again.

  8. veretax says: Apr 24, 2012 12:01 PM

    I agree with dukemarc. This isn’t even an apples to apples comparison. Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers were highly touted for several years before they came out in the draft. Tannehill was hardly even known by many casual College and Pro Football fans until just the last few months. The comparison doesn’t even begin to measure up.

    This just feels like some reporter trying to stir the pot of drama for what could be a pretty dull first round because of the perceived predictability in the top few picks.

  9. prosourcetalk says: Apr 24, 2012 12:02 PM

    A lot of teams thought Tebow wasn’t worthy of a 1st round pick either

  10. napoleonblownapart6887 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:02 PM

    I don’t know that I would consider this a slide similar to Rodgers and Quinn… those two were legitimate top 5 talents (or at least most people thought so at the time), whereas Tannehill has seen a meteoric rise based on QB hype, and is now just settling back to where he deserves to be picked – mid to late 1st round.

  11. 4evrnyt says: Apr 24, 2012 12:03 PM

    You got a guy who started for a year and a half.
    —————————————————-
    That’s a half year more then Sanchez started and that douche was drafted before #20.

  12. 4thquartermagic says: Apr 24, 2012 12:03 PM

    Will be interesting to see where he goes. But I’m pretty sure the Chiefs don’t let Woody slip past them at 11.

  13. jimmysee says: Apr 24, 2012 12:05 PM

    Apply the “Sherman” theory to the extreme, Miami could lay low and grab Tannehill in the 7th round!

    Every round Miami passes, the air gets chiller and chiller for Ryan!

  14. vegaskid21 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:07 PM

    Jimmy Clausen thinks that number is still too high.

  15. kathyisintheroom says: Apr 24, 2012 12:08 PM

    If he gets past Buffalo, then K.C. will take him.

  16. emperorzero says: Apr 24, 2012 12:08 PM

    I think the big flag about Tannehill to me is that he has only been a starter for a year-and-a-half. He seems to be solid physically, but the lack of playing time worries me.

    The last guy who fit that profile that I can remember: Mark Sanchez. Would anyone think Sanchez was worth a top 5 pick now?

  17. blackqbwhiterb says: Apr 24, 2012 12:11 PM

    Brady Quinn not working out as a big time NFL QB was no surprise. Aaron Rodgers falling that far was a surprise for sure….
    Tannehill is going to be a good QB, I believe who ever gets him will be very glad they did…Time will tell…

  18. fxws says: Apr 24, 2012 12:13 PM

    Quinn and Rodgers slided on draft day.

    Locker and Ponder rose on draft day.

    Bottom line, nobody knows what happens to QBs on draft day.

  19. bchapman2011 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:14 PM

    I have been thinking that he will slide bigtime for weeks. It just seems like a-lot of teams are using him to bait another team like Miami into trading up in the draft. I dont feel the interest in him is genuine and that he will slide well past Miami’s pick at #8.

  20. canetic says: Apr 24, 2012 12:18 PM

    This is the first time in many years that I’ve hoped the Dolphins DON’T take a qb in the first round (of course that means they will, just to spite me)

  21. dolphinatic says: Apr 24, 2012 12:19 PM

    I doubt he gets past the 8 pick.Fireland should draft QB’s in rd 3 or 4+ and go for Foles, Moore, Wilson or Weeden if he slips. They all stand as good of a chance as a converted receiver who went 6-6 with 15int’s, as a starter for Sherman in college. Matt Moore can run the show in a contract yr.

  22. We'reFineThere says: Apr 24, 2012 12:20 PM

    I don’t agree with this. Unfortunately, my team’s front office (Eagles) will probably draft him. Unless they Kuechly or Barron, they are already drafting for depth. It makes so little yet too much sense.

  23. storebrandcookies says: Apr 24, 2012 12:21 PM

    If he goes top 20 he is going to the Dolphins at #8. If he slides, it’s any ones guess where he lands.

  24. kayakattack says: Apr 24, 2012 12:22 PM

    linvillegorge says:
    Apr 24, 2012 11:59 AM
    All it takes is one Jacksonville Jaguars to take a kid way too high. Blaine Gabbert should’ve been a late 1st rounder.

    —————————————————-

    He was a top 5 prospect.. Value-wise it was a steal, despite what happened last season …. If RG3 were to fall, he’d be in the same category, even if he bombs out

  25. sj39 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:25 PM

    Holmgren should be gone for his failure to pull the string several times on a deal to get a franchise QB.

  26. beastup22 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:25 PM

    Gabbert 2.0 another QB who wasn’t actually good in college being projected a top 5 pick. Anyone who has seen him plays knows he is not a NFL QB right now.

  27. castleofcheese says: Apr 24, 2012 12:29 PM

    Worked out okay for Rodgers… can’t really say the same for Quinn.

  28. rexryanschoolofpodiatry says: Apr 24, 2012 12:30 PM

    linvillegorge says: Apr 24, 2012 11:59 AM

    All it takes is one Jacksonville Jaguars to take a kid way too high. Blaine Gabbert should’ve been a late 1st rounder.

    ——————————————–

    Late 1st round?? Have you seen him play? He shouldn’t have even been drafted.

  29. shackdelrio says: Apr 24, 2012 12:30 PM

    Another Jimmy Clausen

  30. nicksabansanahole says: Apr 24, 2012 12:31 PM

    Thats it. Way to be a credible news source. Keep throwing grenades and eventually you may hit it right. The credibility of this site is ridiculous. I thought you said yesterday that there was no way the owner of the dolphins would let him slip past 8. And now this. This site is quickly becoming the TMZ of sports.

  31. cowboyhater says: Apr 24, 2012 12:32 PM

    When was Tannehill a top 20 pick anyway. He was slotted for the early 2nd rnd before the combine. No surprise here, but get real, the Phins will grab him.

  32. quirtevans says: Apr 24, 2012 12:34 PM

    “Bottom line, nobody knows what happens to QBs on draft day.”

    Amen to that. The ratings for quarterbacks seem to bounce around more than other positions. It’s the most important position on the team, but it’s also the one position where you really don’t want the second-string guy to see any playing time (I’m talking to you, Tim Tebow). So teams that need a quarterback REALLY need one, and want to trade up, while teams that are already set for the next few years at the QB position can’t afford to waste a high-level pick on another quarterback, even if he’s the highest rated player on their board. The Giants took a redundant cornerback last year, because he was the best player available and knowing that Terrell Thomas and Aaron Ross were in the last year of their contracts. Could you imagine Pittsburgh, Carolina, San Diego, the Rams, the Lions, the Giants, the Ravens, or the Packers using a first round pick on a quarterback, even if he was the best player available? I just don’t see it. So quarterbacks, more than any other position, tend to go way before or way after their supposed slot.

  33. asublimeday says: Apr 24, 2012 12:38 PM

    How do you not mention jimmy clausen? He plummeted into the second round.

  34. detroitrollin22 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:38 PM

    I’m going to go out and say Brandon Weeden gets drafted before Tannehill.

  35. snowpea84 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:41 PM

    C’mon. Nothing that is said near the draft should be listened to. Well, almost nothing. It seems people forget that when it becomes convenient.

  36. lonespeed says: Apr 24, 2012 12:41 PM

    People trying to make this year’s draft interesting when the golden rule is don’t believe anything you hear….he’s not going to slip. He’ll likely go at number 8.

  37. kahnsbushymustache says: Apr 24, 2012 12:42 PM

    linvillegorge says:
    Apr 24, 2012 11:59 AM
    All it takes is one Jacksonville Jaguars to take a kid way too high. Blaine Gabbert should’ve been a late 1st rounder.

    ———————————————–
    All the pre-draft talk in 2011 about whether Carolina should pick Newton or Gabbert is easy to forget after a year, isn’t it…

  38. rajbais says: Apr 24, 2012 12:43 PM

    I would not be surprised, but even if it is so it doesn’t mean that the Dolphins will do squat!!!!

  39. blacknole08 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:43 PM

    Tannehill is so overrated and an late first round/early 2nd round prospect at best.

  40. FinFan68 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:44 PM

    Tannehill has the skills; he just lacks experience. His receivers dropped more passes than any other major college team. I would not mind the Dolphins taking Tannehill at 8 if the staff believes he is a good fit in the system and would be productive. The issue I see is Ireland trying to game the system again. It would be easy for them to draft somebody else at 8 and scare other teams away from him due to Sherman’s apparent lack of confidence in him (as stated in the article). They may think they could get him in the 2nd round and add another 1st round talent at 8. They got cute with Mallett last year and the Patriots burned them. No reason to think it wouldn’t happen again with another team jumping ahead of them in the 2nd round to snag him. If the staff thinks Tannehill is the guy then don’t BS around…just take him at 8. The other options are just as big a gamble as Tannehill at #8.

  41. huejackson says: Apr 24, 2012 12:44 PM

    Reggie Mckenzie Raiders GM when asked if Tanenhill fell all the way down to them what the Raiders take him?
    “Of course, I don’t care if we already have a starting qb I will take whoever the best player is”

    I believe this guy will fall all the way down to the 3rd round maybe even till the 4th. Not alot of teams need a qb most teams want OTs and Defensive players this year…
    If I was the Redskins I would take him over RG3. Rg3 will not win you a super bowl, he is a Novelty act just Like Vick, Young, Cam Newton

  42. dcbassguy says: Apr 24, 2012 12:44 PM

    As much as I don’t want the Eagles to draft a QB, if he slides to them, I doubt he makes it past them. This kid is smart, and athletic. He’s got the physical tools, the rest can be taught by a good coaching staff.

  43. jasndc75 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:50 PM

    maybe miami think if they pass it will scare teams and then they can later trade up to the late first to get him. not likely.

    otoh, Butch Davis took William Green while the player he coached himself, Clinton Portis, was still on the board. So I dont know that the idea that because Sherman coached Tannehill he has any more of a clue if Tannehill will be a good pro or not, is valid

  44. realitypolice says: Apr 24, 2012 12:51 PM

    Hilarious.

    Phins fans bash their front office non-stop (deservedly so) yet now they are calling for said front office to take a second round talent at number 8. Isn’t that how they got into this mess?

    Brandon Weeden is going to be a better NFL QB and will go 2 to 3 rounds later.

    Have fun with that, Miami.

  45. skinsrock says: Apr 24, 2012 12:54 PM

    For all the reasons listed above… I’m so glad the Redskins are going to get RGIII.

  46. justasecond1 says: Apr 24, 2012 12:54 PM

    This has all the makings of that story whereby – the guy got drafted in later rounds or wasn’t drafted at all – but then later goes on to kick some major NFL butt.

  47. enutpenfry says: Apr 24, 2012 12:58 PM

    Sherman is the offensive coordinator, not the GM. It isn’t his choice who the Dolphins draft. While Ireland may ask Sherman’s opinion, it is conceivable that Ireland has other players ranked higher than Tannenhill even with a Sherman endorsement.

  48. dvnelson72 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:01 PM

    I keep wondering if the “Ross wants Tannehill” story is planted in the hopes of getting someone to trade up ahead of Miami.

    It solves 2 problems. First, they don’t have the pressure to take the kid. Second, a legitimate top 7 talent falls one more spot.

  49. xpensivewinos says: Apr 24, 2012 1:01 PM

    What others have or haven’t done is irrelevant to what Tannehill may or may not do. For those who knock the fact that he’s only started 19 games, I present to you, Chad Henne, who if memory serves I believe started 48 games at Michigan. Wasn’t that why Parcells had wood for him…………all that experience????

    …….and didn’t everyone think Miami was on glue for taking Marino in the first round after he turned in to Cheech & Chong his senior year at Pitt?

    Tannehill is going to succeed or fail on his own. What anyone else has ever done (or not done) means nothing.

  50. rickywatts80 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:07 PM

    There was a loud discussion before the 2005 draft as to who would be the #1 pick, Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. They were very similarly rated, and a lot of people correctly had Rodgers rated higher.

    I think Tannehill will be drafted in the top 15, and I think he is a much better prospect than Christian Ponder, and a better prospect than pretty boy Gabbert.

  51. mrfrostyj says: Apr 24, 2012 1:10 PM

    People need to stop bringing up the 2010 draft. The NFL media was completely embarrassed by being wrong about almost every pick in that one so they’re hoping you might forget it existed. That is the one where Tim Tebow (who the media though would never get picked up in the first round) went in the first round While guaranteed first rounders Clausen and McCoy fell completely out of the round altogether.

    We’ll also forget that McCoy and Bradford are pretty much on equal footing as far as their NFL careers have gone despite the draft round gap in being that much better than every other QB in that draft class despite being on horrible teams.

  52. shackdelrio says: Apr 24, 2012 1:12 PM

    So how much of Tannehill’s “rise” was from teams or was strictly media driven?

  53. jluns275 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:17 PM

    I sure hope my Chiefs don’t take him @ #11.
    They already have 3 decidedly average QB’s.

  54. raiderredleg says: Apr 24, 2012 1:23 PM

    If Tannehill is still out there after the 1st 20 picks chances are someone will trade back into the 1st round to get him.

    At the VERY worst he shouldn’t fall past 25 (Denver) IMHO since they have NOTHING behind their 36 year old QB with a bad neck and diminishing physical skills.

    He is inexperienced as a QB, but as a senior who played A LOT on the field at WR I don’t think he is quite as risky as taking a Junior QB and his upside is sky high. If I had a 30 something starting QB he would be well worth the investment for a team that didn’t have alot of needs.

  55. granadafan says: Apr 24, 2012 1:24 PM

    The inexplicable Rodgers slide was due to some douchy journalist/ draft “expert” who complained that Rodgers had a weird throwing motion. All he did was hold the ball high, but it did NOT affect his accuracy, cannon arm, or quick release. He tied the NCAA record for the most consecutive passes against the eventual BCS champion, U$C. Yeah, he had a *really weird* throwing motion.

    The same “experts” also faulted Rodgers for being a Tedford QB who was the product of some gimmick system. Tedford ran a pro style offense in which the running plays were about 50% of all offensive calls. That’s not a gimmick, yet the same “experts” applauded Alex Smith who really ran a gimmick offense under Urban Meyer and never took a snap from under center.

  56. gmen1987 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:31 PM

    mrfrostyj says:
    Apr 24, 2012 1:10 PM
    People need to stop bringing up the 2010 draft. The NFL media was completely embarrassed by being wrong about almost every pick in that one so they’re hoping you might forget it existed. That is the one where Tim Tebow (who the media though would never get picked up in the first round) went in the first round While guaranteed first rounders Clausen and McCoy fell completely out of the round altogether.

    We’ll also forget that McCoy and Bradford are pretty much on equal footing as far as their NFL careers have gone despite the draft round gap in being that much better than every other QB in that draft class despite being on horrible teams.

    ================================
    Colt McCoy was never seriously considered to be a 1st round talent. He has shown that the scouts were right about his limitations.

  57. oldbyrd says: Apr 24, 2012 1:42 PM

    If he falls to 15, I predict The Eagles will take him. Why ? Andy is well known for QB developement and Vic will around long enough for that to happen.

  58. ishudbgm says: Apr 24, 2012 1:42 PM

    Brady wasn’t ready his first year and neither was Arod….Peyton went 3-13 his first year. I get confused at what people want out of a 1st round QB…..half of the first round picks will be out the league in less than 4 years and people still act like QBs are supposed to be perfect. Taking Tannehill in the top 10 is NOT a reach if you need a QB. There is no such thing as taking a QB at a spot where your team is comfortable with him…..Miami has done this concept for years and guess who still does not have a QB. Henne had everything on Earth Parcells wanted in a QB prospect and he is back up to Blaine Gabbert right now. This is not the Swap Market, you can not make a deal as to what you want to pay for something….you either take it when you have the opportunity or run the risk of another year of chasing Marino’s shadow. Im tired of wearing my Marino jersey to games and us having this timid fan base.

    Cut out all the history of draft classes too…..History says Manning wont win another SB but the majority of Miami wanted him. Guess Miami fans ignore history when it suits them best.

  59. packersfn7 says: Apr 24, 2012 1:45 PM

    Hopefully he slides to 28 and the Packers scoop him up. We need another Matt Flynn!

  60. quittsburghstoolers says: Apr 24, 2012 2:05 PM

    Very doubtful he slides out of the Top 15.

    Someone will either take him themselves or someone
    else will trade up to get him. Too many teams need QBs…

  61. eaglesw00t says: Apr 24, 2012 2:24 PM

    No chance in hell.

    If he slips to 15, there is no way Andy Reid passes on him.

    It wont happen. Ever. I would bet my house on it.

  62. mc9399 says: Apr 24, 2012 2:49 PM

    Thas what ppl with common sense should have thought about Flynn, theres a reason Philbin PASSED on him.

  63. steelybills says: Apr 24, 2012 2:54 PM

    What do you think the odds are that Cleveland gets both Richardson at 4, and Tannehill at 22? I am no Cleveland fan, but wow.

  64. 6ball says: Apr 24, 2012 3:19 PM

    .

    @phinfan68

    ” they tried to get cute with mallet last year and the Patriots burned them. ”

    Spot on analysis ……..like a third round choice wasn’t worth the risk? What was the worst case scenario? You end up with a capable backup?

    I don’t think mallet is available for a third rounder today.

    .

  65. beeronthefridge says: Apr 24, 2012 5:09 PM

    tanehill = kevin kolb

  66. spfripp says: Apr 24, 2012 6:11 PM

    I saw someone make a comment that made a whole lot of sense and kind of reinforced my belief that Miami will pass on Tannehill. That comment…..Why would his old HC lobby for Tannehill when Tannehill is the guy who cost him his job?

  67. jspyle says: Apr 24, 2012 7:32 PM

    No disrespect to Mr. Tannehill, but he likley shouldnt go that high. He appears to be another guy that aced his Senior Bowl/Combine moments. He may very well do better than the two QBs that are to be taken in front of him, but I dont see how his resume shot him up the draft board so quick.

  68. 1historian says: Apr 25, 2012 6:48 AM

    It happens every year – the closer we come to the draft the more the media keeps stirring up somethings out of nothings because that’s what they do and then when the draft is over and done they pull their annual Rosanne Rosanadanna – “never mind” and then somehow, someway life manages to go on.

    And it is entertaining, as are most of the letters from the gum-chewing public, aka us fans.

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