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		<title>By: mark0226</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1743546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark0226]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mistake on the location of the coaches booths.  With coaches booths on the same side of the stadium, then it is likely to be a very simple switch in the Audio/Video room and all evidence would be gone after the Katrina renovations in 2005.  If it did happen, the only likely evidence will be eye witness or hearsay from 7-10 years ago, which is not very reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mistake on the location of the coaches booths.  With coaches booths on the same side of the stadium, then it is likely to be a very simple switch in the Audio/Video room and all evidence would be gone after the Katrina renovations in 2005.  If it did happen, the only likely evidence will be eye witness or hearsay from 7-10 years ago, which is not very reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: denverscott</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[denverscott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there was no possible advantage, why do coaches cover their mouths when calling plays? Also, with just listening to the chatter on the battlefield (gridiron) a commander (coach) can gain situational awareness and figure out the tendencies of the opposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was no possible advantage, why do coaches cover their mouths when calling plays? Also, with just listening to the chatter on the battlefield (gridiron) a commander (coach) can gain situational awareness and figure out the tendencies of the opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: thepftpaperchase</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thepftpaperchase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sonvar: The Saints didn&#039;t player the 2005 season (3-13) in the Superdome. That was after Katrina, so they played their home games in East Rutherford vs the Giants (1), Baton Rouge (4) and San Antonio (3).
Mark0226: The coaches booths in the Superdome were both on the same side of the field (as are all or almost all stadium set-ups). In fact, there were only a few booths in between the two. I don&#039;t know where you got the idea they&#039;re on opposite sides of the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sonvar: The Saints didn&#8217;t player the 2005 season (3-13) in the Superdome. That was after Katrina, so they played their home games in East Rutherford vs the Giants (1), Baton Rouge (4) and San Antonio (3).<br />
Mark0226: The coaches booths in the Superdome were both on the same side of the field (as are all or almost all stadium set-ups). In fact, there were only a few booths in between the two. I don&#8217;t know where you got the idea they&#8217;re on opposite sides of the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: chachanola</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chachanola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt this story is true for the fact that the author called around to anybody to try and find dirt...one. Two, alot of you using the source card ( which is truly tired and played out) should be more than a disgruntled Cox Cable man who didn&#039;t get that illeagal side contract. What is happening is that so many people want to be first to pile something else on that now alot of people&#039;s journalistic creadibility is going to be questioned. Wasn&#039;t ESPN the ones who also ran with the Cancer Patient Superbowl Ticket story too? just saying]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt this story is true for the fact that the author called around to anybody to try and find dirt&#8230;one. Two, alot of you using the source card ( which is truly tired and played out) should be more than a disgruntled Cox Cable man who didn&#8217;t get that illeagal side contract. What is happening is that so many people want to be first to pile something else on that now alot of people&#8217;s journalistic creadibility is going to be questioned. Wasn&#8217;t ESPN the ones who also ran with the Cancer Patient Superbowl Ticket story too? just saying</p>
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		<title>By: rootintootinnootin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rootintootinnootin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it was so useful, why did he only do it for a few years before stopping the practice?

And, especially as technology only gets better, you would expect his capability to listen would only get better the longer he&#039;d done it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was so useful, why did he only do it for a few years before stopping the practice?</p>
<p>And, especially as technology only gets better, you would expect his capability to listen would only get better the longer he&#8217;d done it.</p>
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		<title>By: wittersworld</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wittersworld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So according to Polian&#039;s logic, its okay for me to break into my neighbor&#039;s house, as long as I don&#039;t take anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So according to Polian&#8217;s logic, its okay for me to break into my neighbor&#8217;s house, as long as I don&#8217;t take anything.</p>
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		<title>By: shzastl</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shzastl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Landry on Fox Radio said something similar. Even if Loomis couldn&#039;t decipher specific plays, he could hear conversations among opposing coaches such as &quot;we&#039;re struggling with Play x&quot; and share that with his coaches.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Landry on Fox Radio said something similar. Even if Loomis couldn&#8217;t decipher specific plays, he could hear conversations among opposing coaches such as &#8220;we&#8217;re struggling with Play x&#8221; and share that with his coaches.</p>
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		<title>By: moagecu</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moagecu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don’t you first have to establish he had the system in place before we jump to the second and third questions?
_______

I&#039;m not sure, but wouldnt the fact that he had an ear piece to listen to AM radio mean that he could alter it to listen to other things?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t you first have to establish he had the system in place before we jump to the second and third questions?<br />
_______</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure, but wouldnt the fact that he had an ear piece to listen to AM radio mean that he could alter it to listen to other things?</p>
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		<title>By: bullcharger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742829</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bullcharger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think this thing is true.  However, if you assume it was true then I would also assume it wasn&#039;t only used by Loomis and it wasn&#039;t only used for in-game adjustments.  It was recorded and reviewed and somewhere there would be analysis documents.  Investgators should be looking for recordings and documents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this thing is true.  However, if you assume it was true then I would also assume it wasn&#8217;t only used by Loomis and it wasn&#8217;t only used for in-game adjustments.  It was recorded and reviewed and somewhere there would be analysis documents.  Investgators should be looking for recordings and documents.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboycjn</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboycjn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Polain makes an argument that it was useless, somebody counters this with possible value.  WAIT a minute - Has anybody proved he did or did not use the so called alleged system to listen to anybody?  NO!

At this point it is only gossip because it is a alleged possibly it might have been done.  So you smart people in here are saying lets hang the person then we will hold a trial to see if he&#039;s guilty.  What a bunch of freaks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Polain makes an argument that it was useless, somebody counters this with possible value.  WAIT a minute &#8211; Has anybody proved he did or did not use the so called alleged system to listen to anybody?  NO!</p>
<p>At this point it is only gossip because it is a alleged possibly it might have been done.  So you smart people in here are saying lets hang the person then we will hold a trial to see if he&#8217;s guilty.  What a bunch of freaks.</p>
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		<title>By: mark0226</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark0226]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[miainthemia says: Apr 25, 2012 1:43 PM

There’s a much simpler reason to believe (or not) the original report. Is there any tangible evidence that such a system was even set up?

I have not heard anyone from the Saints say that there was no system set up to “eavesdrop” on sound in the coaches booth. If the system was installed, why would it?

I know, innocent until proven guilty…but to install something like that costs money. And time. And planning. And instructions on exactly how to set it up. Decisions like that aren’t made off-hand, with no intention of using said system. Furthermore, once it’s set up, it could easily be expanded so that more people can use it.

Let’s be real – if they installed it, they used it.
===

According to sources, the system was set up by Randy Mueller to listen in on the Saints&#039; coaches, so that would be the reason for incurring the expense of installing it.  The allegation is that Loomis had that system rewired to listen to the opponents&#039; coaches.  If all audio wires terminate in the same room, this would be an easy switch, but considering coaches booths are on opposite sides of the stadium, it would probably be a major re-wiring.

If they had to run wires from one side of the stadium to the other, they probably would have used an outside contractor, so there would be a record of that.  Also, even if the devices are no longer installed, it is quite rare to remove the wiring.  They just snip the ends off and leave the wires in place, so there should be some physical evidence remaining today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miainthemia says: Apr 25, 2012 1:43 PM</p>
<p>There’s a much simpler reason to believe (or not) the original report. Is there any tangible evidence that such a system was even set up?</p>
<p>I have not heard anyone from the Saints say that there was no system set up to “eavesdrop” on sound in the coaches booth. If the system was installed, why would it?</p>
<p>I know, innocent until proven guilty…but to install something like that costs money. And time. And planning. And instructions on exactly how to set it up. Decisions like that aren’t made off-hand, with no intention of using said system. Furthermore, once it’s set up, it could easily be expanded so that more people can use it.</p>
<p>Let’s be real – if they installed it, they used it.<br />
===</p>
<p>According to sources, the system was set up by Randy Mueller to listen in on the Saints&#8217; coaches, so that would be the reason for incurring the expense of installing it.  The allegation is that Loomis had that system rewired to listen to the opponents&#8217; coaches.  If all audio wires terminate in the same room, this would be an easy switch, but considering coaches booths are on opposite sides of the stadium, it would probably be a major re-wiring.</p>
<p>If they had to run wires from one side of the stadium to the other, they probably would have used an outside contractor, so there would be a record of that.  Also, even if the devices are no longer installed, it is quite rare to remove the wiring.  They just snip the ends off and leave the wires in place, so there should be some physical evidence remaining today.</p>
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		<title>By: swagger52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swagger52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who Dat seems inappropriate.  It should have been....

What Dat?

and

Kill Dat?

I was getting sick of all those feel good stories about Sean Payton.  If it smells like crap, then it usually is crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who Dat seems inappropriate.  It should have been&#8230;.</p>
<p>What Dat?</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Kill Dat?</p>
<p>I was getting sick of all those feel good stories about Sean Payton.  If it smells like crap, then it usually is crap.</p>
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		<title>By: 805_9er</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[805_9er]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there was a system in place for Loomis to listen then it&#039;s pretty naive to assume he was the only one listening. Why run the risk if there&#039;s no benefit?

During the alleged years of use the Taints were respectable and after the flood their record went to hell. Coincidence?

Too bad nobody can believe anything the Taints say...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was a system in place for Loomis to listen then it&#8217;s pretty naive to assume he was the only one listening. Why run the risk if there&#8217;s no benefit?</p>
<p>During the alleged years of use the Taints were respectable and after the flood their record went to hell. Coincidence?</p>
<p>Too bad nobody can believe anything the Taints say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: infectorman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[infectorman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[makimaguro says: Apr 25, 2012 1:34 PM

“If not used in the game it can provide a valuable database that would have significant value for future game plans, and as well when coaches change teams,” the source said.

—–

Exactly one of the things New England was LEGALLY doing UP UNTIL  the beginning of the 2007 season.  1 whole game.    Wow!

It&#039;s well known to most fans that teams change up their signalling from inter- divisional games 
to avoid telegraphing plays to their well-known opponents as well.

Keep trying haters...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makimaguro says: Apr 25, 2012 1:34 PM</p>
<p>“If not used in the game it can provide a valuable database that would have significant value for future game plans, and as well when coaches change teams,” the source said.</p>
<p>—–</p>
<p>Exactly one of the things New England was LEGALLY doing UP UNTIL  the beginning of the 2007 season.  1 whole game.    Wow!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s well known to most fans that teams change up their signalling from inter- divisional games<br />
to avoid telegraphing plays to their well-known opponents as well.</p>
<p>Keep trying haters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: meanmark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meanmark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re reaching, Florio.  All of this stuff that might be useful in the future can be gleaned very easily just by watching the game film.  You don&#039;t need to eavesdrop on the conversation to be able to review exactly what the teams did during the game.  It&#039;s all there on the film (or I guess it&#039;s probably all digital now).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re reaching, Florio.  All of this stuff that might be useful in the future can be gleaned very easily just by watching the game film.  You don&#8217;t need to eavesdrop on the conversation to be able to review exactly what the teams did during the game.  It&#8217;s all there on the film (or I guess it&#8217;s probably all digital now).</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[makimaguro says: “If not used in the game it can provide a valuable database that would have significant value for future game plans, and as well when coaches change teams,” the source said.
—–
Exactly one of the things New England was doing…

--------------------------------------------

That was Belichick&#039;s reasoning as to why he was not breaking any rules

The 2006 memo from the Commissioner made clear that filming of signals was OK from the stands but prohibited for Game Day use from the sidelines

Since Belichick uses those tapes for post-game analysis of play calling tendencies, he figured he was in compliance with the rule.

The punishment handed down by Goodell was because Belichick out-lawyered Goodell - not because the NFL has any problem with signal filming in general 

(most fans remain clueless about that, seemingly ignoring the fact that most coordinators continue to cover their mouths when calling in plays even today.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makimaguro says: “If not used in the game it can provide a valuable database that would have significant value for future game plans, and as well when coaches change teams,” the source said.<br />
—–<br />
Exactly one of the things New England was doing…</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>That was Belichick&#8217;s reasoning as to why he was not breaking any rules</p>
<p>The 2006 memo from the Commissioner made clear that filming of signals was OK from the stands but prohibited for Game Day use from the sidelines</p>
<p>Since Belichick uses those tapes for post-game analysis of play calling tendencies, he figured he was in compliance with the rule.</p>
<p>The punishment handed down by Goodell was because Belichick out-lawyered Goodell &#8211; not because the NFL has any problem with signal filming in general </p>
<p>(most fans remain clueless about that, seemingly ignoring the fact that most coordinators continue to cover their mouths when calling in plays even today.)</p>
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		<title>By: babyhorsemorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[babyhorsemorgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can tell when someone is eavesdropping. They wear giant Mickey Loomis Ears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can tell when someone is eavesdropping. They wear giant Mickey Loomis Ears.</p>
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		<title>By: lionsfan54</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lionsfan54]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait... 2 days ago you were sure that no advantage could be gained.  What changed?  Backpedal much?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230; 2 days ago you were sure that no advantage could be gained.  What changed?  Backpedal much?</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be worthwhile for Florio to revisit Lee Groscup&#039;s 1967 &quot;Sports&quot; magazine expo which examined the spying and eavesdropping habits of NFL icons including:

George Halas
Lamar Hunt
George Allen, and more

My guess on the Saints is that this is just an unsubstantiated rumor by a disgruntled employee, but let&#039;s let the investigators do their work 

No doubt Roger Goodell is happy to see the focus shift away from his own Injury Reporting Policies that allowed coaches to try to injure and kill vulnerable players in Bountygate, but I also think he would rather the average football fan keep their head in the sand and remain in denial about the NFL&#039;s history of espionage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be worthwhile for Florio to revisit Lee Groscup&#8217;s 1967 &#8220;Sports&#8221; magazine expo which examined the spying and eavesdropping habits of NFL icons including:</p>
<p>George Halas<br />
Lamar Hunt<br />
George Allen, and more</p>
<p>My guess on the Saints is that this is just an unsubstantiated rumor by a disgruntled employee, but let&#8217;s let the investigators do their work </p>
<p>No doubt Roger Goodell is happy to see the focus shift away from his own Injury Reporting Policies that allowed coaches to try to injure and kill vulnerable players in Bountygate, but I also think he would rather the average football fan keep their head in the sand and remain in denial about the NFL&#8217;s history of espionage.</p>
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		<title>By: dddr1ver</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dddr1ver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is like spygate all over again.  Of COURSE they can use the information.  The flaw in the logic of those that say teams &quot;can&#039;t&quot; use the information (here and in spygate) is that it assumes that in order to be useful you have to decode the entire language (which would be impossible).  But that&#039;s not the case.

For example, imagine the advantage of knowing 3-4 times a game with 100% certainty that your opponent was going to blitz.  (You don&#039;t think Tom Brady or Drew Brees would be able to exploit that knowledge?)

That would be easy to figure out.  All you need to know is when the team blitzed and the check out the code words they used and/or hand signs they made before the play.  The next time you see/hear the same code you know what is coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like spygate all over again.  Of COURSE they can use the information.  The flaw in the logic of those that say teams &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; use the information (here and in spygate) is that it assumes that in order to be useful you have to decode the entire language (which would be impossible).  But that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p>For example, imagine the advantage of knowing 3-4 times a game with 100% certainty that your opponent was going to blitz.  (You don&#8217;t think Tom Brady or Drew Brees would be able to exploit that knowledge?)</p>
<p>That would be easy to figure out.  All you need to know is when the team blitzed and the check out the code words they used and/or hand signs they made before the play.  The next time you see/hear the same code you know what is coming.</p>
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		<title>By: ozz2012</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ozz2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be careful when disagreeing with the all-mighty NaPolian.  As Indy fans learned... we be&#039;s stoopid compared to the genius light that Bill deems to shine upon us football-illiterate mouth breathers....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful when disagreeing with the all-mighty NaPolian.  As Indy fans learned&#8230; we be&#8217;s stoopid compared to the genius light that Bill deems to shine upon us football-illiterate mouth breathers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: twodat</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twodat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike McCarthy and Jim Haslett must be guilty too as well as Venturi.  What crooked bunch of guys]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike McCarthy and Jim Haslett must be guilty too as well as Venturi.  What crooked bunch of guys</p>
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		<title>By: sonvar</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sonvar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best record the New Orleans Saints during the timeframe in question was 9-7.   With 2005 they went 3-13.   Even if this was in place and used it wasn&#039;t helpful. Regardless, I see no point in Loomis or the Saints lying about this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best record the New Orleans Saints during the timeframe in question was 9-7.   With 2005 they went 3-13.   Even if this was in place and used it wasn&#8217;t helpful. Regardless, I see no point in Loomis or the Saints lying about this.</p>
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ilovefoolsball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can just see the gaggle of girly giddy reporters at ESPN now.

Producer: Oh now we really got something. Colon Crowherd, Dug Globlieg, Van Smelt, Ryan Ratsilly, Freddy Coleslaw, get in here, we have something new for you to blabber about on the radio and act like you know what you&#039;re talking about. 

Dug Globlieg: We really got the Saints, oh this is big, this is huge, this is...fun! I&#039;m having a blast! I think I peed a little! 

Colon Crowherd: Man I can&#039;t wait to get on the radio tomorrow and just rip into this.
It&#039;ll be big, it&#039;ll be huge! We&#039;ll have analysts and former players and coaches.
Hell we&#039;ll even get some local New Orleans reporters to come on the show and bash them over the head.

Ryan Ratsilly: Really guys? I mean come on, really? If you&#039;re the Saints it&#039;s just, I&#039;m not buying it that you didn&#039;t do this. I know we don&#039;t have the facts and these are just allegations but, really guys? 

Van Smelt: Yeah I mean it&#039;s obvious that they&#039;re guilty of whatever anyone accuses them of now. The good thing is that we can say this and report this and if it turns out not to be true we can just say that it came from an anonymous source. Reminds me of when I was in college and I was saving up money for a $1.50 hot dog at the campus food mart, those were the good ole days.

Freddy Coleslaw: Coming up next, would Mickey Loomis have been executed on the spot if he did this and he was a black man? We&#039;ll answer that coming up next on the couch and coleslaw show after the break.

Producer: GO GET EM GUYS! Who needs source checking and facts? We&#039;re ESPN damnit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can just see the gaggle of girly giddy reporters at ESPN now.</p>
<p>Producer: Oh now we really got something. Colon Crowherd, Dug Globlieg, Van Smelt, Ryan Ratsilly, Freddy Coleslaw, get in here, we have something new for you to blabber about on the radio and act like you know what you&#8217;re talking about. </p>
<p>Dug Globlieg: We really got the Saints, oh this is big, this is huge, this is&#8230;fun! I&#8217;m having a blast! I think I peed a little! </p>
<p>Colon Crowherd: Man I can&#8217;t wait to get on the radio tomorrow and just rip into this.<br />
It&#8217;ll be big, it&#8217;ll be huge! We&#8217;ll have analysts and former players and coaches.<br />
Hell we&#8217;ll even get some local New Orleans reporters to come on the show and bash them over the head.</p>
<p>Ryan Ratsilly: Really guys? I mean come on, really? If you&#8217;re the Saints it&#8217;s just, I&#8217;m not buying it that you didn&#8217;t do this. I know we don&#8217;t have the facts and these are just allegations but, really guys? </p>
<p>Van Smelt: Yeah I mean it&#8217;s obvious that they&#8217;re guilty of whatever anyone accuses them of now. The good thing is that we can say this and report this and if it turns out not to be true we can just say that it came from an anonymous source. Reminds me of when I was in college and I was saving up money for a $1.50 hot dog at the campus food mart, those were the good ole days.</p>
<p>Freddy Coleslaw: Coming up next, would Mickey Loomis have been executed on the spot if he did this and he was a black man? We&#8217;ll answer that coming up next on the couch and coleslaw show after the break.</p>
<p>Producer: GO GET EM GUYS! Who needs source checking and facts? We&#8217;re ESPN damnit!</p>
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		<title>By: plako21</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[plako21]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=618846#comment-1742560</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Seriously you needed an inside source to tell you this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously you needed an inside source to tell you this?</p>
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		<title>By: r0b1b0y</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r0b1b0y]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plausible reasons for doing it in spite of there being absolutely no benefit to it is: A) he could B) mischief is fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plausible reasons for doing it in spite of there being absolutely no benefit to it is: A) he could B) mischief is fun.</p>
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		<title>By: sg419</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sg419]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh great 
Another story with an &quot;unnamed source&quot;
We all know that unnamed sources are pure as the driven snow.

What would the media do if they did not have unnamed sources.  They may actually have to work for a paycheck.

I bet if an unnamed source criticized Obama, we would find out who he is and what his motivation is in about 24hrs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh great<br />
Another story with an &#8220;unnamed source&#8221;<br />
We all know that unnamed sources are pure as the driven snow.</p>
<p>What would the media do if they did not have unnamed sources.  They may actually have to work for a paycheck.</p>
<p>I bet if an unnamed source criticized Obama, we would find out who he is and what his motivation is in about 24hrs.</p>
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		<title>By: 69firebird</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[69firebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You actually had to find out from someone in the know thought there could be an advantage? Don&#039;t you have common sense? Of course there is an advantage to listening to the other coaches regardless if it&#039;s just the GM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually had to find out from someone in the know thought there could be an advantage? Don&#8217;t you have common sense? Of course there is an advantage to listening to the other coaches regardless if it&#8217;s just the GM.</p>
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		<title>By: beerbaron</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beerbaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really needed an expert insider to tell you this? Most of the commenters here pointed out the same things and our &quot;intimate knowledge&quot; is usually limited to what McDonald&#039;s currently sells on the dollar menu.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really needed an expert insider to tell you this? Most of the commenters here pointed out the same things and our &#8220;intimate knowledge&#8221; is usually limited to what McDonald&#8217;s currently sells on the dollar menu.</p>
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		<title>By: granadafan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/examining-the-benefits-of-eavesdropping/#comment-1742509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[granadafan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who thinks that the useful info can&#039;t be garnered to give your own team an advantage is narrow minded and focusing only on the coded description of play calling instead of game flow conversations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks that the useful info can&#8217;t be garnered to give your own team an advantage is narrow minded and focusing only on the coded description of play calling instead of game flow conversations.</p>
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