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Lions may look to move up for a starter in the secondary


Detroit’s secondary struggled in a season-ending loss to the Packers and a postseason-ending loss to the Saints, and if the Lions want to take the next step and beat good passing teams like the Packers and Saints next season, secondary is a position they’d like to upgrade tonight in the first round of the NFL draft. And the Lions might just be desperate enough for secondary help that they’ll trade up to get a player they’re confident can start from Day One.

Four players in this year’s draft look like they could step in and start immediately and provide an upgrade in the Lions’ secondary: Cornerbacks Morris Claiborne, Stephon Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick, and safety Mark Barron. There’s virtually no chance of the Lions landing Claiborne, but there has been some discussion that the Lions might try to move up to secure Gilmore or Kirkpatrick, and ESPN’s John Clayton reported this morning that Detroit would love to be able to move up to get Barron.

Getting Barron, however, would be costly. When I wrote yesterday that I didn’t buy the mock drafts having the Eagles drafting Barron at No. 15, Adam Schefter wrote back that not only would the Eagles not get a chance at 15, the Cowboys wouldn’t get a chance at him at 14, either. Moving up for Barron would require a jump up at least 10 spots for the Lions, who have the 23rd pick in the first round, and that may be a bigger jump than the Lions can afford to take.

Gilmore is likely to be gone within the first dozen picks, too, and that means the Lions likely won’t get him either. That leaves Kirkpatrick, whose stock seems to be dropping as reporters get more information from teams about where they rank him, and that means the Lions may have a shot at him. Kirkpatrick thinks the Lions would be a perfect fit for him, and if the Lions agree, they may decide to move up a few spots to ensure it can happen.

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47 Responses to “Lions may look to move up for a starter in the secondary”
  1. kathyisintheroom says: Apr 26, 2012 11:27 AM

    Trade up with K.C. to get your guy.
    Swap picks in round 1 and throw in this years 2nd rounder and next years first rounder

  2. suhnami says: Apr 26, 2012 11:34 AM

    kathyisintheroom says: Apr 26, 2012 11:27 AM

    Trade up with K.C. to get your guy.
    Swap picks in round 1 and throw in this years 2nd rounder and next years first rounder


    pretty sure detroit won’t be trading or doing any business with KC after they weaseled away draft picks from them for “tampering”

    don’t you remember the embarrassment the Lions laid on these guys last year running up the score in a blow out win??? some would say coincidence…

  3. phailing101 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:35 AM

    Wait for Kirkpatrick to fall into late teens and try to move up then. Otherwise, it’s not worth your time……stay put and take some OL help.

  4. jaggedmark says: Apr 26, 2012 11:35 AM

    Stephon Gilmore is the only player I’d like to see Detroit trade up for.

  5. suhnum1fan says: Apr 26, 2012 11:35 AM

    Hell no!!

  6. neilanblomi says: Apr 26, 2012 11:36 AM

    They could have had Asante for a 6th rounder yesterday

  7. jeffchadwick says: Apr 26, 2012 11:37 AM

    Yeah, I’m going to go ahead and say that one shouldn’t hold their breath for the Lions and Chiefs to make a deal anytime soon.

  8. patsack69 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:38 AM

    Not only would they not mess with KC theyd be really dumb to give up a first and a second to move up to KCs spot

  9. numburz says: Apr 26, 2012 11:38 AM

    Hey Lions, FINALLY after what 17 straight top 3 picks, you have to look at trading UP to get a top flight player? Who thought the day would ever come?

  10. 305fan says: Apr 26, 2012 11:39 AM

    Trade with the fins. We’re going to screw that pick up anyways. Detroit gets their guy and we get worse anyways.

  11. whatnojets says: Apr 26, 2012 11:40 AM

    Leave me alone. Can’t you see that I am in the War Room trying decide which quaterback we will draft tonight? It’s very hard to choose between Luck and RGIII and you bother me with this?

    Rex Ryan

  12. lionfreq says: Apr 26, 2012 11:40 AM

    Lions should trade Cliff Avril (free up $10 million in cap space) and this years 1st to trade up with Tampa and get Claibourne. They have great young DE’s in Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young. They can grab another DE in 2nd or 3rd round to develop. The freed up cap space will allow them to sign Atogwe.

  13. redwinglion says: Apr 26, 2012 11:41 AM


    The Lions didn’t have the cap space to get Asante with that contract.

  14. ezpkns34 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:41 AM

    If SD doesn’t trade up for Barron or DeCastro, then I’d be all for them trading back with Detroit & grabbing a guy like McClellin or Hightower

  15. suhisbetterthanu says: Apr 26, 2012 11:49 AM

    Lions should dangle Avril out as trade bait to get into the top13. There they could either look at a guy like Decastro or Best available DB.
    Then use the 23 pick to replace Avril with someone like Mercilus or Perry.

  16. thereisfootballwestofjersey says: Apr 26, 2012 11:55 AM

    Janoris Jenkins would seem to fit the bill perfectly. 4 children from three different mothers, multiple arrests and drug related hi-jinks…all of this and he’s not yet 25. The PERFECT LION!

  17. bigcarguy1 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:58 AM

    Panthers looking to trade down from number 9–seems like a workable deal to me

  18. mikelegg87 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:58 AM

    In no way should the Lions trade up. If anything, trade down.

    Scenario #1
    1. Cordy Glenn (OG/T, UGA)
    2. Josh Robinson (CB, UCF)
    3. Josh Norman (CB, Coastal Carolina)
    4. David Molk (C, UofM)
    5. Travis Lewis (OLB, Oklahoma)
    7a. Chris Rainey (RB/KR, UF)
    7b. Kellen Moore (QB, Boise State)

    Scenario #2 – PREFERRED.
    Trade #23 and #117 with STL (Hoping they’re wanting Brockers/Worthy); receive #33 and #65.

    2a. Janoris Jenkins (CB, N. Alabama)
    2b. Kelechi Osemele (G/OT, Iowa St)
    3a. Lamar Miller (RB, Miami)
    3b. Philip Blake (C, Baylor)
    5. Travis Lewis (OLB, Oklahoma)
    7a. Jordan White (WR, WMU)
    7b. Kellen Moore (QB, Boise State)

  19. forgoddondon says: Apr 26, 2012 11:59 AM

    I think the Lions should trade for Freeney…maybe even their 1st rounder

  20. jedson328 says: Apr 26, 2012 11:59 AM


    You can’t trade a player that is not under contract. Avril would have to sign his franchise tender or negotiate a new deal in order to be traded. I dont see that happening today.

  21. rexryanschoolofpodiatry says: Apr 26, 2012 12:00 PM

    I know the Lions want Barron. Think they will try to move up around 10-13 to get him. However, if the price is too high then they will probably focus on trying to move up for Kirkpatrick around 16-18. Should be interesting.

  22. lionfan419 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:03 PM

    i am reading Kirkpatrick may fall. I say stay at 23 and see if he falls, if not get Cordy Glenn to shore up that O line or take Upshaw at LB. Anyway just sit at 23 and take BPA.

  23. motorcitykitties says: Apr 26, 2012 12:03 PM

    This is exactly what Mayhew wants you to believe.

  24. gq2scoops says: Apr 26, 2012 12:04 PM

    None of this matters! Megatron just gave them the Madden Curse yesterday…Lions fans have to look forward now to the 2013 season

  25. classactcalvin81 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:05 PM

    I say if we don’t land a trade for Claiborne, Gilmore, or Barron we just stay put grab OL best avail and then go hard after Boykins at CB in the 2 nd!!! This kid will turn out to b one of the better corners in this draft after a few years!! Don’t believe me go watch his tape he may not b the tallest CB but plays BIG and makes big plays great tackler and runs back punts pretty well kinda reminds me of a low budget pat peterson. But no matter what happens I’ll b right there watching 2 nite Go Lions!!!!

  26. redwingfan1234 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:06 PM

    @thereisfootballwestofjersey… A couple of guys making bone headed moves over the course of a single season does NOT define a teams culture. You’re not being funny OR clever.

    Second, the Lions cannot afford to trade up!! Schwartz/Mayhew had their best draft in the only one where they stayed put in the high rounds (’09) and let their picks come to them. Trust in your scouts, take whoever offers the most value when #23 is up!

  27. lolb23 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:11 PM

    They tried to trade up to 5 last year for Patrick Peterson. Believe it. One stud player is always way better than 2 or 3 above average ones. Mark Barron next to Delmas? Do it Mayhew.

  28. hurdda80 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:12 PM

    just take jenkins, roll the dice

  29. We'reFineThere says: Apr 26, 2012 12:13 PM

    They should be looking at the Eagles pick. If Cox, Barron, or Kuechly don’t fall to them at 15…. they will likely take the a CB as I think those guys are the next best players available. They would be willing to trade back at that point too.

  30. n0hopeleft says: Apr 26, 2012 12:40 PM

    If they want to go 15-1 like their fans think they will, they better.

  31. thefiesty1 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:42 PM

    Too bad if they trade up for who they select. Their career on a perennial loser will not be a good experience.

  32. jredshoes says: Apr 26, 2012 12:46 PM

    Football is first and foremost a business. I don’t think KC or Detroit would pass on a potentially good deal for both because Gunther Cunningham tampered with players or because Jamil Charles blew out his knee trying to avoid the Lions mascot on the sideline. If that were the case no one ever would have made a trade with the Raiders when Al Davis was alive

  33. darthhitman77 says: Apr 26, 2012 12:55 PM

    numburz says: Apr 26, 2012 11:38 AM

    Hey Lions, FINALLY after what 17 straight top 3 picks, you have to look at trading UP to get a top flight player? Who thought the day would ever come?

    WOW, someone either exaggerates highly or they believe garbage BS and have no clue at all true statistics…my guess is the latter

  34. cmutimmah says: Apr 26, 2012 1:05 PM

    “lionfreq says:
    Apr 26, 2012 11:40 AM
    Lions should trade Cliff Avril (free up $10 million in cap space) and this years 1st to trade up with Tampa and get Claibourne. They have great young DE’s in Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young. They can grab another DE in 2nd or 3rd round to develop. The freed up cap space will allow them to sign Atogwe.”

    We should trade Brandon Inge for Pujols too…

    it’s going to take Avril, this years first AND next year’s first to get in the conversation to get a top 5 pick. Sorry, you’re crazy.

    Also, can we avoid “multiple exclamation point guy”. I know you think your opinion is the only one that matters and that what you’re saying is truly exciting!!!!!!, but, alas, it’s not. It just comes across as you shouting an wetting yourself as you tell us your pipe dreams.

    If Gilmore or Kirkpatrick are available in the high teens, they trade up. If not, they stand pat or trade down to get Jenkins. They definitely address the secondary first in this draft though.

  35. richkotitte says: Apr 26, 2012 1:12 PM

    The Jags want to trade back in the worst way.

    Detroit should move up to 7 to get Gilmore.

    In return The Jags would get Detroit’s 23rd pick and their second rounder. Works for both teams.

  36. matzahballz says: Apr 26, 2012 1:15 PM

    Keep 23rd pick, trade avril to top 10-15 team and get a late rounder pick in return as well. Take Gilmore then at 23 take Jenkins and Rd’s 2-3 take OL, address rest of needs (LB/DL) late.

  37. imopen7 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:17 PM

    gonna need a receiver when megatron gets shot down by Madden curse

  38. magnusantonius says: Apr 26, 2012 1:24 PM

    I would be shocked if the Lions trade up at all.

  39. mungman69 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:48 PM

    Lions aren’t moving.

  40. detroitcityryda says: Apr 26, 2012 1:57 PM

    Just draft Jenkins in round 2 forget Kirkpatrick he doesn’t fit ,Gilmore is the most over rated player in the draft he went from round 3 to round 2 to top 20 pick now he’s a top 5 ? They saying hes Better than Claiborne ?all because of combine we have another Troy Williamson people I’m calling it now at 1:56 pm et time detroit suburbs of bloomfield hills he will be a bust .

  41. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2012 2:11 PM

    They could have drafted a DB last year like Prince Amukamara, instead they went DT for a second year ago.

  42. samaugster23 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:15 PM

    Mayhew has never traded future picks. If there is a trade, I don’t see one until later rounds, it will NOT include next years picks!!!!

  43. pturner81 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:35 PM

    Trade up I cowboys at 14 for next years 2nd rounder. 12-4 lions record 2012. Plus Jenkins in round two if he’s there

  44. lrak76 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:10 PM

    Lions best case scenario
    1.Dre Kirkpatrick
    2.George Iloka
    3.Demario Davis
    4.Mike Brewster
    5.Dan Herron
    7.Keshawn Martin
    7.Josh Ogelsby

  45. lionpride10 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:23 PM

    Lions should trade back to the beginning of the second round and try to pick up either another 3rd or 4th in the process. Then use that pick to get Jenkins.

  46. butkus54 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:34 PM

    I think moving up to get into the top ten would be too expensive for the Lions … watch how the board is falling and if a guy like Kirpatrick is still there at 18 then think about it. Otherwise I’d like to see the Lions just stay at 23 and take the best player still on the board.

  47. lionsfan2086 says: Apr 26, 2012 5:54 PM

    The past few months or so I’ve really started to like Gilmore and wanted the Lions to get him. Originally I thought he’d make it to 23 now there’s talk the Jags or Bills land him. I don’t want to give up what it would take to move that high up in the draft.

    Let the draft come to us and take BPA at our pick or maybe even trade down.

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