Comments on: Lions may look to move up for a starter in the secondary http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 04:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: lionsfan2086 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1746536 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:54:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1746536 The past few months or so I’ve really started to like Gilmore and wanted the Lions to get him. Originally I thought he’d make it to 23 now there’s talk the Jags or Bills land him. I don’t want to give up what it would take to move that high up in the draft.

Let the draft come to us and take BPA at our pick or maybe even trade down.

]]> By: butkus54 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1746224 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:34:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1746224 I think moving up to get into the top ten would be too expensive for the Lions … watch how the board is falling and if a guy like Kirpatrick is still there at 18 then think about it. Otherwise I’d like to see the Lions just stay at 23 and take the best player still on the board.

]]> By: lionpride10 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1746180 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:23:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1746180 Lions should trade back to the beginning of the second round and try to pick up either another 3rd or 4th in the process. Then use that pick to get Jenkins.

]]> By: lrak76 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1746108 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:10:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1746108 Lions best case scenario
1.Dre Kirkpatrick
2.George Iloka
3.Demario Davis
4.Mike Brewster
5.Dan Herron
7.Keshawn Martin
7.Josh Ogelsby

]]> By: pturner81 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745897 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:35:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745897 Trade up I cowboys at 14 for next years 2nd rounder. 12-4 lions record 2012. Plus Jenkins in round two if he’s there

]]> By: samaugster23 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745516 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:15:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745516 Mayhew has never traded future picks. If there is a trade, I don’t see one until later rounds, it will NOT include next years picks!!!!

]]> By: shaggytoodle http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745509 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:11:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745509 They could have drafted a DB last year like Prince Amukamara, instead they went DT for a second year ago.

]]> By: detroitcityryda http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745459 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:57:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745459 Just draft Jenkins in round 2 forget Kirkpatrick he doesn’t fit ,Gilmore is the most over rated player in the draft he went from round 3 to round 2 to top 20 pick now he’s a top 5 ? They saying hes Better than Claiborne ?all because of combine we have another Troy Williamson people I’m calling it now at 1:56 pm et time detroit suburbs of bloomfield hills he will be a bust .

]]> By: mungman69 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745420 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:48:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745420 Lions aren’t moving.

]]> By: magnusantonius http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745380 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:24:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745380 I would be shocked if the Lions trade up at all.

]]> By: imopen7 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745364 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:17:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745364 gonna need a receiver when megatron gets shot down by Madden curse

]]> By: matzahballz http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745361 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:15:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745361 Keep 23rd pick, trade avril to top 10-15 team and get a late rounder pick in return as well. Take Gilmore then at 23 take Jenkins and Rd’s 2-3 take OL, address rest of needs (LB/DL) late.

]]> By: richkotitte http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745351 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:12:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745351 The Jags want to trade back in the worst way.

Detroit should move up to 7 to get Gilmore.

In return The Jags would get Detroit’s 23rd pick and their second rounder. Works for both teams.

]]> By: cmutimmah http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745342 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:05:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745342 “lionfreq says:
Apr 26, 2012 11:40 AM
Lions should trade Cliff Avril (free up $10 million in cap space) and this years 1st to trade up with Tampa and get Claibourne. They have great young DE’s in Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young. They can grab another DE in 2nd or 3rd round to develop. The freed up cap space will allow them to sign Atogwe.”

We should trade Brandon Inge for Pujols too…

it’s going to take Avril, this years first AND next year’s first to get in the conversation to get a top 5 pick. Sorry, you’re crazy.

Also, can we avoid “multiple exclamation point guy”. I know you think your opinion is the only one that matters and that what you’re saying is truly exciting!!!!!!, but, alas, it’s not. It just comes across as you shouting an wetting yourself as you tell us your pipe dreams.

If Gilmore or Kirkpatrick are available in the high teens, they trade up. If not, they stand pat or trade down to get Jenkins. They definitely address the secondary first in this draft though.

]]> By: darthhitman77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745316 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:55:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745316 numburz says: Apr 26, 2012 11:38 AM

Hey Lions, FINALLY after what 17 straight top 3 picks, you have to look at trading UP to get a top flight player? Who thought the day would ever come?

WOW, someone either exaggerates highly or they believe garbage BS and have no clue at all true statistics…my guess is the latter

]]> By: jredshoes http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745299 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:46:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745299 Football is first and foremost a business. I don’t think KC or Detroit would pass on a potentially good deal for both because Gunther Cunningham tampered with players or because Jamil Charles blew out his knee trying to avoid the Lions mascot on the sideline. If that were the case no one ever would have made a trade with the Raiders when Al Davis was alive

]]> By: thefiesty1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745293 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:42:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745293 Too bad if they trade up for who they select. Their career on a perennial loser will not be a good experience.

]]> By: n0hopeleft http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745286 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:40:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745286 If they want to go 15-1 like their fans think they will, they better.

]]> By: We'reFineThere http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745230 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:13:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745230 They should be looking at the Eagles pick. If Cox, Barron, or Kuechly don’t fall to them at 15…. they will likely take the a CB as I think those guys are the next best players available. They would be willing to trade back at that point too.

]]> By: hurdda80 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745229 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:12:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745229 just take jenkins, roll the dice

]]> By: lolb23 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745227 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:11:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745227 They tried to trade up to 5 last year for Patrick Peterson. Believe it. One stud player is always way better than 2 or 3 above average ones. Mark Barron next to Delmas? Do it Mayhew.

]]> By: redwingfan1234 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745216 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:06:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745216 @thereisfootballwestofjersey… A couple of guys making bone headed moves over the course of a single season does NOT define a teams culture. You’re not being funny OR clever.

Second, the Lions cannot afford to trade up!! Schwartz/Mayhew had their best draft in the only one where they stayed put in the high rounds (’09) and let their picks come to them. Trust in your scouts, take whoever offers the most value when #23 is up!

]]> By: classactcalvin81 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745215 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:05:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745215 I say if we don’t land a trade for Claiborne, Gilmore, or Barron we just stay put grab OL best avail and then go hard after Boykins at CB in the 2 nd!!! This kid will turn out to b one of the better corners in this draft after a few years!! Don’t believe me go watch his tape he may not b the tallest CB but plays BIG and makes big plays great tackler and runs back punts pretty well kinda reminds me of a low budget pat peterson. But no matter what happens I’ll b right there watching 2 nite Go Lions!!!!

]]> By: gq2scoops http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745214 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:04:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745214 None of this matters! Megatron just gave them the Madden Curse yesterday…Lions fans have to look forward now to the 2013 season

]]> By: motorcitykitties http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745211 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:03:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745211 This is exactly what Mayhew wants you to believe.

]]> By: lionfan419 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745209 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:03:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745209 i am reading Kirkpatrick may fall. I say stay at 23 and see if he falls, if not get Cordy Glenn to shore up that O line or take Upshaw at LB. Anyway just sit at 23 and take BPA.

]]> By: rexryanschoolofpodiatry http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745202 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:00:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745202 I know the Lions want Barron. Think they will try to move up around 10-13 to get him. However, if the price is too high then they will probably focus on trying to move up for Kirkpatrick around 16-18. Should be interesting.

]]> By: jedson328 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745198 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:59:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745198 @suhisbetterthanu
@lionfreq

You can’t trade a player that is not under contract. Avril would have to sign his franchise tender or negotiate a new deal in order to be traded. I dont see that happening today.

]]> By: forgoddondon http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745197 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:59:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745197 I think the Lions should trade for Freeney…maybe even their 1st rounder

]]> By: mikelegg87 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/#comment-1745195 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:58:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=621589#comment-1745195 In no way should the Lions trade up. If anything, trade down.

Scenario #1
1. Cordy Glenn (OG/T, UGA)
2. Josh Robinson (CB, UCF)
3. Josh Norman (CB, Coastal Carolina)
4. David Molk (C, UofM)
5. Travis Lewis (OLB, Oklahoma)
7a. Chris Rainey (RB/KR, UF)
7b. Kellen Moore (QB, Boise State)

Scenario #2 – PREFERRED.
Trade #23 and #117 with STL (Hoping they’re wanting Brockers/Worthy); receive #33 and #65.

2a. Janoris Jenkins (CB, N. Alabama)
2b. Kelechi Osemele (G/OT, Iowa St)
3a. Lamar Miller (RB, Miami)
3b. Philip Blake (C, Baylor)
5. Travis Lewis (OLB, Oklahoma)
7a. Jordan White (WR, WMU)
7b. Kellen Moore (QB, Boise State)

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