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Patriots talk to Seahawks about trading up to 12

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Patriots coach Bill Belichick may be thinking about packaging his own first-round draft pick (No. 31) and the Saints’ pick (No. 27) to trade to the Seahawks to move up to No. 12.

Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the Patriots have inquired with the Seahawks to see what it would take to move up to 12.

Moving way up doesn’t seem like the type of move Belichick likes to make, but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t do it if he believes a player at 12 can make the kind of impact that the last player he drafted early in the first round, Jerod Mayo, made. One player Belichick might consider at 12 is Alabama safety Mark Barron.

The old NFL draft trade chart is somewhat outdated these days, but it does suggest that packaging No. 27 and No. 31 for No. 12 would be a fair trade. The chart gives the 12th pick a value of 1,200 points, the 27th pick a value of 680 points and the 31st pick a value of 600 points.

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72 Responses to “Patriots talk to Seahawks about trading up to 12”
  1. sj39 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:48 PM

    I wish the worse for both teams.

  2. patge93 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:49 PM

    chandler jones

  3. realbenrush says: Apr 26, 2012 1:50 PM

    I going to guess they aren’t moving up for Tannehill.

  4. whatnojets says: Apr 26, 2012 1:50 PM

    But The New York Jets are talking about trading down…….

  5. jhart615 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:50 PM

    WAIT…but then the Patriots would have to be losing draft picks instead of gaining them…

    This can’t be right

  6. blantoncollier says: Apr 26, 2012 1:51 PM

    But I thought NFL Network just reproted the Pats were trading down the Browns?

  7. garylanglais says: Apr 26, 2012 1:51 PM

    If it’s been leaked, its not true. Question then becomes, what team is Bill trying to scare with this news?

  8. eaglesfan247 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:52 PM

    All teams talk about trading up too see what it would take to trade up, doesn’t mean its happening, all these posts are dumb.. SOMEONE TALKS TO A PLAYER.. omfg!

  9. joshmelder says: Apr 26, 2012 1:52 PM

    Bill is in it to win it this year.

  10. braven4evr says: Apr 26, 2012 1:52 PM

    the one thing about dealing with the pats/BB is “you have to get more,” belicheat is smart,slick and very good….don’t like him but respect him and his abilities!

  11. LBC says: Apr 26, 2012 1:54 PM

    As a Dallas Cowboys fan. This makes me highly upset, but I kind of figured it would happen. I need Jerry Jones to make something happen to stop this asap. We need Mark Barron

  12. jjpt4540 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:54 PM

    The Pats were rumored to move up last year and no dice. Fun to talk about but probably not going to happen.

  13. numburz says: Apr 26, 2012 1:54 PM

    Although antiquated the Draft Trade Chart if updated might actually place a higher value on some of the high picks due to the salary restrictions so the disparity between the 3rd and the 28 actually might be greater with less risk financially. The question is what impact does the top 10 / 5th year option have? Some might be able to argue that the 11th pick is equal in value or slightly more valued than the 10th because the 5th year option is considerably less so the player could be virtually the same in draft grade but cost considerably less over a five year contract, thereby, potentially making the pick more valuable.

  14. jerrygogo says: Apr 26, 2012 1:55 PM

    SWINGHAM!

  15. Andrew Shaver says: Apr 26, 2012 1:55 PM

    Fletcher Cox?

  16. august1969 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:55 PM

    zowie!

  17. slammincamnewton says: Apr 26, 2012 1:55 PM

    Throw in you’re 2nd and 3rd and you can have the Panthers 1st and 5th, hell take the 7th too.

  18. binkystevens says: Apr 26, 2012 1:55 PM

    Wow. Let’s hope this trade happens. I don’t want these punks trying to take Shea McLellin from his rightful landing spot: Green Bay.

  19. TaiwanMike says: Apr 26, 2012 1:56 PM

    This is pure selfishness talking, but as a Bills fan I would love to see the Patriots reach and overextend for a draft pick.

  20. 6ball says: Apr 26, 2012 1:57 PM

    .

    I’ve amassed my vast net worth by speculating on what the patriots will do on draft day.

    My government check? That arrives on the third.

    .

  21. blizzard01 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:57 PM

    The Patriots- or Pastriots as I call them are in the past.

  22. seatownballers says: Apr 26, 2012 1:58 PM

    Seattle will do the move if kuechly and ingram ate taken. Maybe not to patriots, but three highest bidder for sure

  23. trollhammer20 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:59 PM

    Wow, this is exactly what happened at another sports website with four initials when they asked their “Division bloggers” to conduct a mock draft. The AFC East blogger traded the 27 and 31 to Seattle for the 12, and took Mark Barron.

    The Seahawks took Chandler Jones at 27 and Coby Fleener at 31 in that mock.

    I’d take that trade if I were Seattle’s GM, providing, of course, that a “targeted” player wasn’t available. I also might be interested in swapping, say, the 27 and a third or fourth to move back up and get a guy like Perry or Mercilius.

  24. odj810 says: Apr 26, 2012 1:59 PM

    I dont’ see them moving up at all. Though it would possibly make sense to do it this year. There roster is pretty chock full not to much room for a ton of rookies. I see them more likely trading a late first rounder for a future 1st and 3rd

  25. vcstriker16 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:00 PM

    Have teams addressed how outdated the trade chart is? Wasn’t this created when the draft was twelve rounds?

    Trades should be subjective to the teams involved.

  26. rushbacker says: Apr 26, 2012 2:01 PM

    I hear Dallas is going to give up five firsts to trade up to number two for Mark Barron.

  27. PFTiswhatitis says: Apr 26, 2012 2:02 PM

    This is moot, Barron will be gone before the 12th pick is cast.

  28. wludford says: Apr 26, 2012 2:02 PM

    This move doesn’t surprise me. Belichick and the Pats are at a now or never point with the franchise, so taking non-starters or guys that need a couple years to develop don’t hold a lot of interest. In a couple years Brady and Belichick will be gone and the Pats in full rebuilding mode.

  29. bingobrown12 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:03 PM

    The Patriots trade their 31st 1st round pick to
    (insert team name here)for their 2013 1st round pick.<—— this

  30. mornelithe says: Apr 26, 2012 2:04 PM

    @ Blizzard01: I think you may be jumping the gun a bit there…I mean, if the Pats are the ‘past’, and they made it to the SB last year, what does that say about the other 30 teams in the NFL?

  31. dac458 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:04 PM

    Wow would love BB to pull this off and get a top DE or Safety with Barron. I think Barron could be a staple at safety for years to come.

  32. zimaman says: Apr 26, 2012 2:06 PM

    not gonna happen

    like I said Bert:

    Patriots are trading out of round 1 all together – read it and weep

  33. detroitcityryda says: Apr 26, 2012 2:07 PM

    So all these mock drafts that were released by espn and nfl networks finests were made up ? Wow I’m upset

  34. mrplow3 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:07 PM

    “The Patriots- or Pastriots as I call them are in the past.”

    You do realize they were in the super bowl again last year right?

  35. beerbaron says: Apr 26, 2012 2:10 PM

    I don’t think Barron’s worth that pick, he’s just hot because this draft is low on safeties. If McCourty plays mostly at safety I’d be surprised if one of the first or second rounds picks isn’t a corner, but there’s a big drop-off after the guys who’ll go in the top 10-15.

    But I think the Pats’ target here is probably a front seven guy, and more likely a DT/DE than a smaller LB. If they like Brockers, 12 seems about right for him.

    Or this is just a smokescreen. I doubt the Pats are in the habit of leaking info (who knows with the Seahawks) so if this report comes from Foxboro it’s probably a trick.

    Either way, I see the Pats either trading both picks to move up, or moving back from one or both spots and picking up more picks or a 1st next year.

  36. ampats says: Apr 26, 2012 2:10 PM

    I would love this to happen . Barron is a Day #1 starter.

    Pastriots? Guess losing in the Super Bowl and winning 10+ games in the past 10 seasons makes them past history. Another brilliant comment from a Patriot Envy troll.

  37. dmartin17 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:13 PM

    That’s too expensive. Not worth it.

  38. patsfiend says: Apr 26, 2012 2:19 PM

    All I know is this… BB was probably one of the first to make a whole new draft value chart based on the new wage scales.

    And this… he’ll use that chart to fleece the Raiders again.

  39. 4thquartermagic says: Apr 26, 2012 2:20 PM

    Actually makes total sense for the Pats.

    Only the teams with picks 28 and up can truly say they are “one piece” away from a superbowl.

    In the Pats case, that applies even more.

    One more defensive playmaker (Mark Barron) and you’d have beaten the Giants.

  40. markbul says: Apr 26, 2012 2:23 PM

    Nothing ‘leaks’ from Foxboro.

  41. 2dollarpbrs says: Apr 26, 2012 2:24 PM

    Albert Breer has NO idea what the Patriots will do in the draft

  42. rexismybff says: Apr 26, 2012 2:24 PM

    ” the kind of impact that the last player he drafted early in the first round, Jerod Mayo”

    – That’s been the criticism of Mayo – almost no impact plays. He’s a tackling machine, no doubt, but he’s only got 2 INT’s, 4.5 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles in 4 entire years in the league.

    James Harrison and Terrell Suggs put up those types of impact play numbers in a single GAME sometimes.

  43. malgorthewarrior says: Apr 26, 2012 2:30 PM

    How many times is PFT going to point out that the draft chart is antiquated, then proceed to use it for their analysis of a draft trade?

    Peter King does the same thing only he doesn’t even admit it’s antiquated. Come on, have some dignity, PFT.

  44. bozosforall says: Apr 26, 2012 2:31 PM

    ampats says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:10 PM
    I would love this to happen . Barron is a Day #1 starter.

    Pastriots? Guess losing in the Super Bowl and winning 10+ games in the past 10 seasons makes them past history. Another brilliant comment from a Patriot Envy troll.

    __
    Nothing compared to the “brilliant comments” that have been coming from Yankee Envy trolls from New England for the better part of the last 100 years. Sports envy was invented in New England.

  45. pr0phat69 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:32 PM

    This isn’t going to happen this is classic Bill, playin mind games, seein who will bite

  46. mianfr says: Apr 26, 2012 2:33 PM

    If true, I’m guessing Stephon Gilmore or Quinton Coples.

    Honestly, DB is always a safe guess for predicting what NE will do with an with an early draft choice.

  47. barefoot77 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:37 PM

    The Pats’ schedule is so soft 12-4 is worst case for them, with 14-2 quite possible.
    In other words, AFC Championship Game at home.
    Maybe one last shot to get the Ring.
    Get an impact player.
    As a Jet fan I hope they don’t move up.

  48. realdealsteel says: Apr 26, 2012 2:42 PM

    The Patriots upgraded the wide receiver position with Brandon Loyd. All they have to do now is get that defense better and they could be hoisting the trophy next February. They should throw everything they have in getting that defense better.

  49. pooflingingmonkey says: Apr 26, 2012 2:43 PM

    I read that the Pats were interested in trading their 27th pick to themselves for their own 31st pick, and a player to be named later.

  50. chawk12thman says: Apr 26, 2012 2:46 PM

    Report has now been denied by Patriots Camp, so maybe there is some truth here.

  51. thetruth1313 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:47 PM

    rexismybff says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:24 PM
    ” the kind of impact that the last player he drafted early in the first round, Jerod Mayo”

    – That’s been the criticism of Mayo – almost no impact plays. He’s a tackling machine, no doubt, but he’s only got 2 INT’s, 4.5 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles in 4 entire years in the league.

    James Harrison and Terrell Suggs put up those types of impact play numbers in a single GAME sometimes.

    ———————————————-
    Stick to worrying about the Jets brainiac. Harrison and Suggs are both outside linebackers and Mayo is a middle linebacker.

  52. chrisjohnston10 says: Apr 26, 2012 2:47 PM

    “The Patriots- or Pastriots as I call them are in the past.”
    ————————————–
    In the last decade, there have been four teams that have represented the AFC in the Super Bowl. The Patriots have 5 of those years. I imagine they are going to be the favourites this year as well. Hardly in the past dude.

  53. patsfiend says: Apr 26, 2012 2:49 PM

    Oh, and you can filter / sort using the search tools in the left nav bar, to see that little man with the big keyboard has commented on close to 100 Boston related articles just in the last week, and then replies on all of them again and again.

    Think about that for a second…

    How’s the love life Bozo? I’m guessing not too good.

  54. dynaco says: Apr 26, 2012 2:55 PM

    ampats says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:10 PM
    I would love this to happen . Barron is a Day #1 starter.

    Pastriots? Guess losing in the Super Bowl and winning 10+ games in the past 10 seasons makes them past history. Another brilliant comment from a Patriot Envy troll.

    ————————————————–If you don’t win it all, nobody remembers you.

  55. patsfiend says: Apr 26, 2012 3:02 PM

    Go to google and put this in your search:
    site:nbcsports.com “bozosforall says”

  56. chiefsfaninpa says: Apr 26, 2012 3:06 PM

    The Patriots have a history of being cloaked in secrecy for the draft..So if Albert Breer is reporting this, it is probably something he read from another source that isn’t reliable

  57. bobhk says: Apr 26, 2012 3:07 PM

    I’m not a Hawks fan but I hope they fleece the Pats.

  58. dlonce says: Apr 26, 2012 3:16 PM

    Wouldn’t matter if they traded up, they’ll miss the pick anyway. For all the accolades this guy gets, (which is perplexing considering his QB makes his team)he ‘s a terrible drafter.

    He misses on a high number of his picks, so it doesn’t matter if he trades up.

  59. ntestarossa says: Apr 26, 2012 3:17 PM

    We reached for Maroney, we reached on Meriweather, please don’t reach to much on this pick.
    I dont expect them to trade up, but anything is possible with BB.

    GO PATS!

  60. dlonce says: Apr 26, 2012 3:18 PM

    Oh, Baron will be gone by then.

  61. j0esixpack says: Apr 26, 2012 3:24 PM

    The trade chart is really only out-dated for the Top 5 picks who today represent a much better value than they used to given the high salary and high risk.

    Once you get past the Top 10 the previous salaries and current salaries are beginning to equalize

    You could also make the case that the old trade chart was already out dated given the high risk and high salary of recent years

  62. clarencewhorley says: Apr 26, 2012 3:25 PM

    Should have done this trade last year and got JJ WATT……

  63. j0esixpack says: Apr 26, 2012 3:27 PM

    By the way – I’m not buying the trade rumors.

    Belichick is likely trying to get the Jets to waste a pick to move up themselves.

    Belichick is fond of doing that – letting Mangini think he wanted Gholston, tricking him into making that pick only to trade back and get the guy he wanted all along in Mayo

  64. lionsmark09 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:31 PM

    blizzard01,

    Didn’t the Pats make it to the Superbowl last year? How are they the Pastriots? That’s pretty recent. Sounds like you’re a hatter.

  65. rexismybff says: Apr 26, 2012 3:33 PM

    thetruth1313 says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:47 PM
    rexismybff says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:24 PM
    ” the kind of impact that the last player he drafted early in the first round, Jerod Mayo”

    – That’s been the criticism of Mayo – almost no impact plays. He’s a tackling machine, no doubt, but he’s only got 2 INT’s, 4.5 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles in 4 entire years in the league.

    James Harrison and Terrell Suggs put up those types of impact play numbers in a single GAME sometimes.

    ———————————————-
    Stick to worrying about the Jets brainiac. Harrison and Suggs are both outside linebackers and Mayo is a middle linebacker.

    =========================

    And last year, Inside Linebacker Ray Lewis put up half the “impact plays” Mayo has in his entire 4-year career, and David Harris blew away Mayo’s career numbers with 4 INT’s, 1 TD and 5 sacks.

  66. bozosforall says: Apr 26, 2012 3:33 PM

    patsfiend says:
    Apr 26, 2012 2:49 PM
    Oh, and you can filter / sort using the search tools in the left nav bar, to see that little man with the big keyboard has commented on close to 100 Boston related articles just in the last week, and then replies on all of them again and again.

    Think about that for a second…

    How’s the love life Bozo? I’m guessing not too good.

    __
    The “love life” is better than you will ever have, putzfiend. Besides, the daytime is for posting, while the nighttime is for the “love life”.

    Looks like you guessed wrong.

  67. brokentreehousemusic says: Apr 26, 2012 3:44 PM

    Classic gamesmanship… probably to make Rex get fidgety at pick 16. If Bill plays anything but plain ol’ conservative chess, someone should pull his mask off Scooby-Doo style, because that’s not him.

  68. rc33 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:48 PM

    Even if there is an agreed upon price for the Patriots to move up to #12, my guess is it would be contingent on Player X being there.
    They almost certainly would have one guy (Cox?) in mind; two at most.
    If he/they go at #10 or 11, deal off.

  69. thetruth1313 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:50 PM

    bozosforall says:

    The “love life” is better than you will ever have, putzfiend. Besides, the daytime is for posting, while the nighttime is for the “love life”.

    Looks like you guessed wrong.

    ——————————————-

    Strange- when I was reading all the hockey comments and saw the hundreds that you posted at all hours of the night. You and Rosie Palm must be good at multi-tasking.

  70. micronin127 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:51 PM

    I am sure they have talked to a lot of teams about ‘what would it take to get your pick at #XX’, this is just to save time tonight.

    For all we know Seattle asked for the moon and New England hung up and said ‘scratch Seattle off the list, they want too much’.

  71. dans761 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:59 PM

    As a Seahawks fan I’m not a huge fan of this trade. Add a 2nd rounder than maybe

  72. infectorman says: Apr 26, 2012 6:16 PM

    @ Patsfiend:

    Rosie Palm….Oh Rosie!!!!! I think I’m gonna! I’m gonna Cu…
    Damn! another NE story, gotta stop to post more spewage!!! Maybe later Rosie, sorry honey.

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