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Vikings stadium bill sputters, again

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The zombified Vikings stadium bill has slowed to a torso-only crawl.

After several days of progress, a hearing before the Senates Taxes Committee set for Thursday has been postponed, which likewise has delayed the expected House vote on the stadium bill.

According to the Associated Press, Republican lawmakers now want to fund the stadium not through expanded gambling but via a new tax on the team and its fans.

Mike Benson, a Republican member of the House of Representatives, says he would propose a four-percent income tax on Vikings players, along with any executives earning more than $200,000 per year.  Benson also suggests increased sales taxes on sports memorabilia, liquor, and purchases in the stadium, and a sales tax online purchases of NFL merchandise.

The Vikings have been opposed to any new taxes, preferring instead an expansion of gambling revenues.

It’s unclear how this may shake out, but the Commissioner can’t fly to Minnesota tonight in order to kick-start the process again.  He has other plans.

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  1. threedeep1998 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:38 PM

    Can’t blame us lefty folks now.

  2. dmartin17 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:42 PM

    I like it and it sounds reasonable to me. No reason why the average citizen should pay for a stadium that is being built primarily for a private industry that already generates great revenues.

  3. AlohaMrHand says: Apr 26, 2012 3:42 PM

    The Los Angeles Vikings does t quite have that ring to it.

  4. kane337 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:43 PM

    No free agent is coming to Minnesota with that 4% tax hike.

  5. bozosforall says: Apr 26, 2012 3:44 PM

    Minnesotans are beginning to look even more stupid than Wisconsinites. And that does take some doing.

    LA Vikings in 2013

  6. micbg77 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:45 PM

    a Republican wants to raise taxes? he must be trying to win the liberal vote!!

  7. cakemixa says: Apr 26, 2012 3:45 PM

    Couldn’t be happening to a better fan base. LOL!

  8. cjw1197 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:46 PM

    The Minnesota legislature is employing stall tactics so this gets derailed, thus making it so they don’t have to make a decision.

    If the team relocates, the citizens of Minnesota will relocate their local representative/senator to the unemployment line.

  9. twigsandberries says: Apr 26, 2012 3:47 PM

    All the Vikings will do is raise ticket and concession prices to make up the difference. Why would you want to play or work there if you know you’re going to get hammered with taxes? Just another politician trying to make a name for himself by being stupid

  10. lew24 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:47 PM

    What free agent is wanting to sign with the Vikings knowing that they will be taxed additional 4 percent? If I’m an agent, I would tell my clients to look elsewhere!

  11. bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:47 PM

    Goes to show you what a joke this is. They’ve had the past year to negotiate and get a deal done. Instead, they wait until the last minute to completely change the bill and insert changes that are very controversial and not fully negotiated or agreed to by everyone.

    Typically you negotiate what approach will work and pass, and you start your bill off with that. This is what they did: the bill that suddenly they have a problem with is one that was negotiated months ago with GOP, Dems, City of Minneapolis and everyone agreed that was the best chance at success.

    Nothing more then more stall tactics and posturing. A complete joke. Where’s Jesse Ventura when you need him to crack a few skulls??

  12. rugdog100 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:47 PM

    The MN Senate GOP is holding the stadium bill hostage. GOP won’t let it go to the floor for a full vote unless Gov. Dayton concedes on another unrelated bill. Just more typical political bull$hit.

  13. firerogergoodell says: Apr 26, 2012 3:48 PM

    Brilliant! Tax our players more than any team in the NFL so that our pathetic team can’t sign ANY free agents. Might as well move the team to LA. That’s coming from a Vikings fan. Move the team to a state that wants them.

  14. kane337 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:48 PM

    Arthur Blank is going to cough up $700 million of his own money to build his stadium. Why can’t Zigi do the same?

  15. eaglesw00t says: Apr 26, 2012 3:48 PM

    So…now the players are going to pay for the stadium? And every executive, and the owner will be ponying up 4%?

    That doesnt sound right to me. It sounds like the politicians are complying with supplying money, but they are taking the money from the team…Thats like stealing candy from a baby, just to give it back to it on easter…

    This sounds like a scumbag politician move. They already make a ton in taxes off of players salaries. And they get to use the new stadium 355 days a year. They really are trying to do everything they can to say it was the teams fault a stadium didnt get built, and thats about it.

  16. paulnoga says: Apr 26, 2012 3:52 PM

    During the lockout, we learned that the NFL made over 7 BILLION dollars a year. Add to that expanding Thursday Night Football to sell to another network, and it is gross. Now they want taxpayers to pay a BILLION dollars ($1,000,000,000) for a stadium so that in 20 years they can complain they need a new stadium. Taxpayers than own a 500 million dollar paperweight they still owe on.
    Better yet, donate the land and guarantee a % seat fill for 20 years and have the NFL build the stadium on their own. You won’t see any “we need a new stadium” then.

  17. duluthvikings says: Apr 26, 2012 3:53 PM

    People, see through the politics. This is all rhetoric. These ninja lawmakers are OPPONENTS of the Vikings bill. They are throwing out anything and everything they hope will kill the bill, even under the guise that they’re offering a way to get it passed. They know there’s no chance in hell the bill passes if the funding mechanism is changed at 11:59 p.m.

    The stadium is rolling, and this is the pathetic path the out-of-touch politicians in Minnesota are taking to slow it down. I’m optimistic it gets passed in its current version.

  18. bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:53 PM

    Can’t blame us lefty folks now.

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    I wouldn’t go that far. A lot of opposition to the stadium plan has come from DEMS and GOP alike. Neither party is concerned with anything other then looking good for re-election.

  19. onebucplace says: Apr 26, 2012 3:53 PM

    Minnesota is so far to the left that Republicans there should have a (D) next to their name. Remember that this is the same state that elected Jesse “The Body” Ventura for their governor so we’re not exactly talking Einstein’s of the country when it comes to the electorate.

  20. gdeli says: Apr 26, 2012 3:54 PM

    I like it and it sounds reasonable to me. No reason why the average citizen should pay for a stadium that is being built primarily for a private industry that already generates great revenues. WRONG! bro, what do you think this is…increased sales taxes on sports memorabilia, liquor, and purchases in the stadium, and a sales tax online purchases of NFL merchandise. Take a hike bozosforall and pick on your brother instead. ha

  21. glac1 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:54 PM

    Wow.. another 4%. Minnesota is already taxed to death. It sounds like obama’s tax the rich is being put to the test and it will be hard for the left to come out against this.

  22. gdeli says: Apr 26, 2012 3:54 PM

    I will be amazed if this stadium gets done. I would be sad but if they go and our state is in better $ shape then it has to be.

  23. ravensrooster94 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:55 PM

    It’s no coincidence that the Vikings and the basketball team that used to play in Minneapolis have the same team colors.

    Next year they’ll play in the same city.

  24. frozensolid62 says: Apr 26, 2012 3:56 PM

    Actually we can blame both the left and right in this case. They both are at fault. The left will only agree to the electronic pull tabs, which everyone knows won’t raise enough money. Racino was put back in yesterday, to make up the needed revenue, but the left hates it since they are funded by Indian casino’s.

    I say either let the tribe who wants to build casino downtown happen, or racino.

  25. theallegedone says: Apr 26, 2012 3:56 PM

    4% tax on player salaries? U really think a player is gonna give up $40,000 per $1 Million made, to pay to play in a building for about 3 or 4 years, that a state will get money for over the next 30 years minimum? Not a chance in the world. See u in L.A Vikes. Ready to get my season tix.

  26. wstover says: Apr 26, 2012 3:57 PM

    I would hate to see the Vikings leave, but I think it is fair to tax the team and fans rather than exploit peoples’ gambling addiction to pay for the stadium.

  27. vtopa says: Apr 26, 2012 3:58 PM

    Viqueen fans whine about Saints whupping them in the NFC Championship game. Saints fans laugh and pull out voodoo doll in the shape of a viking. Viking stadium deal falls through. Vikings move to Los Angeles and change their name.

    Then none of us has to hear any more whining about Brett Favre, lost Superbowls, or the Packers/Vikes rivalry any more. Sweet release.

    I feel the lamentation and tears of you bike fans and it makes me feel gooooooood.

    Have a nice day!

  28. NationalFlagFootballLeague says: Apr 26, 2012 3:58 PM

    This is going well.
    LA Vikings

  29. ownbay says: Apr 26, 2012 3:59 PM

    The general public should not have to pay for a stadium when the NFL is a 9 billion dollar industry.

  30. superjroch says: Apr 26, 2012 4:00 PM

    Those seem like reasonable tax increases, for those who use the new stadium. If the Vikings don’t like it, THEY ARE the ones who killed the stadium effort, not any lawmakers.

  31. subzero00 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:00 PM

    That’s just awesome. Apparently I am going to my last Minnesota Vikings draft party this evening. And I thought thought them taking Claiborne over Kalil was frustrating.

  32. tropicpurple says: Apr 26, 2012 4:00 PM

    dmartin17 says:Apr 26, 2012 3:42 PM

    I like it and it sounds reasonable to me. No reason why the average citizen should pay for a stadium that is being built primarily for a private industry that already generates great revenues.

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    The stadium is NOT primarily for private use! It holds many, many other ‘public’ events. Not to mention the revenue for surrounding business and oh yeah, jobs!

    People like you have are blinded by what you ‘think’ is benefiting a Billionare which cause you to say stupid things — you’ll cut off your nose to spite your face!

    Wake up! Or you will lose the Vikings, jobs and Minnesota’s identity. Take if from a displaced Minnesotan living outside the state — the Vikings are the ONLY identify you (we) have — other than the move Fargo.

  33. tweeter75 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:01 PM

    And the national embarassment that is Minnesota politics continues. I was hoping this would be done soon to save the Vikings, and to take the national spotlight of Minnesota politics. The political election year games that are being played here are disgusting and ambarassing.

  34. bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:01 PM

    Arthur Blank is going to cough up $700 million of his own money to build his stadium. Why can’t Zigi do the same?

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    Maybe because this ISN’T ZYGI’S STADIUM. It belongs to the public, and he’s just renting it.

    Considering they’re just renting the stadium for a few months out of the year and the state can use it year round for all sorts of other events that make them money, I’d say the fact he’s ponying up 500 million for a stadium he will rent out a few months out of the year is pretty generous.

  35. apm says: Apr 26, 2012 4:06 PM

    Minnesota to NFL: We’re just not that into you.

  36. thisdesertlife80 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:08 PM

    Wait a second, I thought Democrats were the ones who wanted to raise taxes, and Republicans wanted to lower taxes on millionaires. See ya in LA

  37. bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:09 PM

    Minnesota is so far to the left that Republicans there should have a (D) next to their name

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    You’re joking right?? This entire country, INCLUDING MN, has done nothing but sprint to the hard right the past few years. GOP won big in MN in 2010 and the state has gone to hell because it. Stall, shut the government down because you refuse to negotiate, then when everyone gets fed up with government say that’s why people need to elect you so you can cut government to the bone.

  38. adsbad28 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:10 PM

    so there saying only tax the Viking players and staff? what if the final four comes to town or local concerts or anything else for that matter do they get taxed? this is a disgrace pathetic and disgusting what a joke!!

  39. pjgrannan says: Apr 26, 2012 4:11 PM

    I have serious doubts that it is constitutional to apply a special tax only to the employees of one company.

    Put this down as political grandstanding.

  40. granadafan says: Apr 26, 2012 4:12 PM

    Don’t blame the left or the right, liberals or teabaggers. Blame the NFL and billionaire owners who can’t/ won’t build their own place of business and instead hold taxpayers and fans hostage.

  41. duluthvikesfan says: Apr 26, 2012 4:14 PM

    This is a nothing story. It was a group of six republicans who are proposing this idea. Problem is, not even the rest of the republicans are behind them. These six were never going to vote yes to the stadium deal. They see that it is looking like the plan has the needed votes so they are just trying to stir the pot. Much like the “racino” amendment added the other day. It was just a tactic to slow things down. An amendment will be added to take “racino” back out. The delay on the bill going before the taxes panel is just to get all the ducks in a row.

  42. racksie says: Apr 26, 2012 4:16 PM

    bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:01 PM

    Arthur Blank is going to cough up $700 million of his own money to build his stadium. Why can’t Zigi do the same?

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    Maybe because this ISN’T ZYGI’S STADIUM. It belongs to the public, and he’s just renting it.

    Considering they’re just renting the stadium for a few months out of the year and the state can use it year round for all sorts of other events that make them money, I’d say the fact he’s ponying up 500 million for a stadium he will rent out a few months out of the year is pretty generous.

    But if Zygi spends his own money to build the stadium, HE OWNS IT!

  43. gamby1013 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:18 PM

    I was watching the finance commitee yesterday, yes it was super entertaining. The point. They were discussing the bill as it was compatible to other stadiums. Such as Lucas oil field in Indianapolis. Senator Higgins asked where the stadium was located. She didn’t know Indianapolis was in Indiana. She actually said she was thinking it was Iowa. Our leaders are great. Haha

  44. flannlv says: Apr 26, 2012 4:18 PM

    Mr. Wilf, LA on line 1.

  45. knew8411 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:20 PM

    I like it and it sounds reasonable to me. No reason why the average citizen should pay for a stadium that is being built primarily for a private industry that already generates great revenues.

    To the person who posted this I ask….were you born stupid, or did you have to study? In what universe do u live?…..to think for 1 minuite that the “average citizen” will not profit from this stadium is assenine….I suppose you think that ONLY Vikings fans, players, and staff are tho only ppl. who will use this facility. What about the Super Bowl that has been all but promised to Minnesota, when this project is completed? Who is going to make the millions of dollars generated by such an event, or the NCAA basketball tournaments (to include Final 4’s) that this facility would surely attract. Not to mention the jobs created in building, and staffing this facility.
    One suggestion, enguage your brain, before you open your mouth….it will make u look more intelligent.

  46. mediasloppy says: Apr 26, 2012 4:24 PM

    This is the same same deal Pawlenty turned down, because he was going to run for President back in 2008. Except, I don’t think there was tax on players themselves.

  47. petedutcher says: Apr 26, 2012 4:25 PM

    That city doesn’t deserve a football team.

  48. numberoneinthehoodg says: Apr 26, 2012 4:25 PM

    A few of you are concerned that players won’t want to go to Minn. because of the high tax rate. Obviously the Wonder test doesn’t include finance because only these states have zero state tax:

    Tennessee, Washington, Florida, and Texas, (with NFL teams mind you). Yet I don’t see the results of the best and SMARTEST players flocking to teams in these states and winning superbowls year after year.

    Maybe fans should take the test as well. Pay enough to compensate the tax and they will play there. Don’t make me look at the states with the highest taxes and how many superbowls they’ve won because I’ve got a bad feeling about that.

  49. nflpasux says: Apr 26, 2012 4:26 PM

    Taxing the players would, in essence, lower the Vikings salary cap by 4% and ultimately result in the Vikings as the perpetual 32nd best team in the NFL. Unless the NFL & NFLPA conspire to allow a 4% exemption, this won’t fly with Wilf.

    Taxing NFL fans makes sense. So does using gambling proceeds — boo-hoo for those who don’t understand that no one places a gun to the head of the gambler.

    A potential compromise would be the fans’ tax + some gambling proceeds. No player tax.

  50. gb4mn0 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:29 PM

    tweeter75 says:
    Apr 26, 2012 4:01 PM
    And the national embarassment that is Minnesota politics continues.

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    Why stop there? Your NFL team also qualifies as a national embarrassment.

  51. bnwpnw says: Apr 26, 2012 4:32 PM

    Welcome to the NFC West LA Vikings!

    Good time to swap divisions with the Rams, as both teams are struggling and existing rivalries are at an ebb. No one in the NFC West will miss going to the Edward Jones Dome (“The Ed”) where during games you can actually hear individual fans cough.

    Also, raw material for a rivalry is already in place between Seahawks and Vikings – always tension there since the poison-pill fiasco green-lit by Ziggy. (BTW, I love that an NFL owner stars in his own comic strip – adorable!)

  52. johnnyb216 says: Apr 26, 2012 4:59 PM

    Sounds good to me!

  53. vikesfansteve says: Apr 26, 2012 5:09 PM

    Just leave that dump MN Wilf. They don’t deserve the team anymore. 4% tax specifically to play for the Vikings. Nobody would sign with them. The idiocy coming from these politicians. Just leave MN already. F Mike Benson. MN sucks.

  54. northstars1991 says: Apr 26, 2012 5:10 PM

    Nobody wants to pay for these stadiums anywhere in this country… Personally, I don’t care, just get it built, but it remains clearly obvious that people throughout the USA do not want to pay for this stuff…

  55. northstars1991 says: Apr 26, 2012 5:17 PM

    The Los Angeles Rams are Gone
    The St. Louis Cardinals are gone
    The Baltimore Colts are gone
    Officially, the Cleveland Browns are actually in Baltimore
    And soon the Minnesota Vikings will be gone…

    It will be a brand new league and before you know it, it will be about as fun as the USFL was!

    Please NFL… Since Minnesota has done so little for Football over the past 50 years, if you decide to leave, please promise us in writing that the league will NOT return to Minnesota for at least 100 years! I mean it, I love the Vikings but if they leave, I don’t ever want to see the NFL back here again!

  56. seals1 says: Apr 26, 2012 5:20 PM

    color me surprised, niether party will take this home and it’s not going to happen until after the elections in a special session.

    It may or may not be too late but unless both parties come together it will not happen,,,,,,,,,,,,,pigs may fly tonight also.

    My Rep Beverly Scalze has gone from a firm no to a I’m thinking about it carefully. That is her way of saying I don’t want either side to not vote for me so If I stay undecided I can blame it on someone else.

    It’s about votes and paycheck for an easy job for a bunch of tools who can’t hold a real job. The people making choices for us are not football fans and they only care what you think until they are in office.

    Welcome to America

  57. technovike says: Apr 26, 2012 5:23 PM

    Why should the Viking players and Execs have to pay for a stadium. Why wouldnt the Vikings do this themselves and own the Stadium 100% and rent it out to Minnesota?

    The State is being asked to pay for 2/3 of a stadium that will be STATE OWNED. The Vikings only need a place for 8 weeks out of the year, and are paying 2/3 of the cost and RENTING the stadium for those times it needs it.

    WTH are those politicians thinking? that the metrodome still has 20 years of life in it? your not drawing anything to the city with that dump.

  58. thebigcaptain2011 says: Apr 26, 2012 5:29 PM

    Ladies and gentleman: THE LOS ANGELES FOOTBALL LAKERS

  59. theytukrjobs says: Apr 26, 2012 6:20 PM

    Why should Zygi have to build Minnesota a stadium just so he can use it 10 times a year, while the state benefits from every other function there without even paying half of the operating costs.

    MN has some of the highest corporate taxes in the nation. Now they are holding the team ransom to get another big corporation to pay for our extraordinary welfare coverages. Please Zygi build us a stadium using taxes on fans and players and your own pocketbook and let us use it for free!

    People joke about the team going to LA. If our politicians keep running this city like it is LA then pretty sure it will be just as big of a sh!th0re.

  60. ragnar78 says: Apr 27, 2012 12:16 AM

    VTOPA:

    You’re right. The Saints wooped the Vikes in the NFC Championship game…..oh wait, the Saints won by a field goal……

    Tell your suspended coach to catch a ride with Sharper and Vilma to our new stadium….. Probably can’t drive the Mercedes he flaunted around bourbon street after your flood

    I heard Dog the Bounty Hunter is looking for help?

  61. kodakinvegas says: Apr 27, 2012 2:27 AM

    It’d be better watching the beach bunnies in bikinis during the winter through commercials than roof collapses Who wants. To drive to MN anyway? Even the indians didnt want it it. It’s dam cold up there in the winter and dull n boring in the summer. See ya in LA Vikes!!! They’ll love ya. Hollywood here ya come. :)

  62. pack13queens0 says: Apr 27, 2012 9:42 AM

    The people of Minnesota have made it clear they don’t want the Vikings there. And I still can’t understand why Zygi hasn’t packed the Mayflower truck yet. Minneapolis is a city full of crime, smog & pollution it’s hard to even breathe in that city. The NFL made a mistake putting a team there, all it did was encroach on territory of America’s Team the Green Bay Packers. Even with a team in Minnesota, Packer games get double the TV ratings that Vikings games get. Minnesota is not a football state. Have you seen their High School football? It’s like watching paint dry, Eden Prairie & Wayzata couldn’t beat Wisconsin’s worst teams.

  63. vikefan says: Apr 27, 2012 12:31 PM

    The people of Minnesota have made it clear they don’t want the Vikings there. And I still can’t understand why Zygi hasn’t packed the Mayflower truck yet. Minneapolis is a city full of crime, smog & pollution it’s hard to even breathe in that city
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    what a fricken idiot, comparing Mpls to LA regarding crime, smog, & pollution saying Mpls is worse. U simply cannot make up the patheticness of the WI education system

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