Comments on: Jeff Ireland: Experience all that separates Tannehill, Luck, Griffin

By: johnnyquick

johnnyquick — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:16:58 +0000

Tannehill had a qb rating greater than 100 at each game he played in college, despite having 79 passes dropped by his receivers!

Now I see why the dolphins got rid of Marshall.

By: realfootballfan

realfootballfan — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:37:26 +0000

jbcommonsense says:
Apr 27, 2012 10:24 AM
Miami had to make this pick. Do I agree with Ireland’s reasoning? No. This is a gamble. Tannehill did not transform his team as Luck, Griffin did. That said I wish the Dolphins luck.
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Completely agree. Tannehill is just as much a boom or bust prospect as Griffin. They both came out of nowhere in their senior seasons and have NFL physical tools that warranted them being picked by a QB needy team in the first round.

Whether either succeeds will be determined by how their coached and how well their teams play.

It’s been 30 eyars, at least if it is apparent he’s not an NFL caliber QB, you can cut bait in a couple of years when Ireland, Philbin, and Sherman are all gone without worrying about his salary.

I would say to skeptics, people laughed at Tampa a couple of years ago for their supposed reach on Josh Freeman, and despite his subpar 2012 season, he’s still regarded as a bright young up and coming young QB in the league. If you hit on QB, it’s invaluable, and very rarely does anyone ever get a good one outside of the first round.

By: jarepine

jarepine — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:32:06 +0000

Why all the bashing…so Sherman wasn’t a fit for a head coaching job he was a good OC in Green Bay and now he will be tasked with developing an offense and Tannehill along with it. He will also have help from the guy that brought along Rodgers and Flynn in Green Bay. And to those saying Tannehill lost big leads, maybe he got the big lead and then the defense and running game lost the lead. Stop bashing and give the kid a chance. You can’t count on getting Barkley next year because this team isn’t going to go 2 -14 on the season. Tannehill may take time to develop but he has a head start already on learning the offense. Short of Blackmon or Claiborne or one of the other top players taken there was nobody left at 8 that made it worth the risk to pass this kid up. Ingram has issues, Coples has issues, Floyd has issues name one player left on the board that wasn’t a risk of some kind. So you go for the potential homerun ball and get a kid with enough upside to be a franchise QB.

By: sabanissatan

sabanissatan — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:48:40 +0000

someone needs to buy phishfan520 a tv

By: oranjellojones

oranjellojones — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:47:49 +0000

Ok phishfan520 props for backing your team but that list just doesn’t work at all. Bradford won the Heisman, Brees, Manning and Sanchez were anything but thought of as “mediocre” they were projected to be eventual big time players, especially Brees and Manning (who many were projecting a bigger upside and potential career than his brother) . Josh Freeman was touted and Philip Rivers was a hot commodity after lighting it up at NC State and putting them in the mix (kinda like Baylor and RGIII, NCST hasn’t been much of anything before or since Rivers was there). I get your point but ya gotta make better choices than that, you certainly can’t put a Heisman winner on a list of reputed mediocre QB’s in the draft and expect your point to stick. Plus a Heisman winner who had his team in the National Championship.

I’m with the folks who think if Ireland really believes that he’s nuts. Sounds like spin to me, but honestly what else is he going to say?

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:44:25 +0000

Someone else wrote on here, the Dolphins had to do it. Truefully, they did. What have Dolphins fans had to look forward to in recent years? The answer is not much. From all of the awkwardness of Ross’ tenure as owner and Ireland’s tenure as GM, the Dolphins had nothing to lose by going ALL IN on a big risk, big reward QB like Tannehill. If he doesn’t pan out, people will say, “we all knew it…Ireland and Ross are a couple of idiots.” But there is a chance that this big, strong, fast kid can actually be an above average NFL QB or better. Dolphins fans just need to see something in the preseason that will give us SOME hope. not a lot, but something that will make us say, “Hmmm, we might have something here.”

At least that’s what I’m hoping for. Either that or they show his wife on TV a lot.

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:38:03 +0000

Has anyone checked out Tannehill’s wife? Yowza! Welcome to Miami….Mrs. Tannehill. The topless beach streches from 1st to 10th street. Let me show you…

By: cantonbound13

cantonbound13 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:19:23 +0000

Funny, because experience, brains & people skills are all Jeff Ireland lacks compared to other gms.

By: rufustfireflyjr

rufustfireflyjr — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:31:01 +0000

We see it every year: guys who rise up teams’ draft boards not because of how they produced (or didn’t produce) in actual games, but because of pro teams’ needs and how the player looks running around in his shorts during combines and individual team workouts. From everything that I’ve read, Tannehill’s play at QB in college didn’t even come close to warranting his selection at 8 overall.

Given the history of QBs taken in the top 10 of NFL drafts, there’s virtually no chance that Luck, Griffin AND Tannehill will all have careers that justify their lofty draft positions. My choice to go bust is Tannehill.

By: phishfan520

phishfan520 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:23:50 +0000

LIST OF MEDIOCER OR CONSIDERED NON PRODUCTIVE QB’S IN COLLEGE BEFORE NFL:

Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Sam Bradford
Eli Manning
Mark Sanchez
Matt Cassel
Jay Cutler
Josh Freeman
Phillip Rivers

*even Payton can be on this list, he only beat Alabama once back when they sucked! Better yet, his understudy won an NC before he could!

I can keep going for you armchair GM’s who think they know better than a guy who’s an ACTUAL GM for the past 3 drafts.
Jeff pisses me off too, but really he has netted us some great pieces to start with and found us an RB who was “washed up” but gained 1000 yrds with a line with holes in it! You armchair GM’s
would still be complaining and saying MIA is stupid if the Phins didnt pick a 1st rd QB.

This kid needs to hike the ball and throw flare outs to RB’s and slants truefully; he will be fine. If everyone can consider Brady to be the best to ever do it, and all he does is dump it like that, Tannehill will be golden in that case. 49ers had defense and got to one game before the SB with no QB, Jets did it twice but GOD hates NY’s second team so they didnt win (so sad face). Honestly only fans that can run their mouths right now are Giants, Packers and Steeler fans, the rest of you, minus a top 5 defense and two wr’s which are coming to us later today, are in the same boat as MIA, trying and dying to win!

By: db105

db105 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:22:06 +0000

This should get the fans to buy tickets!

By: jagsfanugh

jagsfanugh — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:20:03 +0000

Wasted pick as the Dolphins will be getting a true Franchise QB next year when they pick #1.

By: diendamalone

diendamalone — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:11:46 +0000

Keep telling yourself whatever you want, Ireland.

Tannehill will be selling insurance back in Texas in 4 years.

By: christopher525

christopher525 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:03:07 +0000

Jeff Ireland is a complete moron.

By: beeronthefridge

beeronthefridge — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:00:33 +0000

This morning on Salguero’s show a caller asked him what he thought of Tannehill and he responded “I hope he fails.”

By: wvuandsteelers

wvuandsteelers — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:57:54 +0000

Thinking like that is why the Dolphins suck.

By: beeronthefridge

beeronthefridge — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:53:51 +0000

Hall of fame qb Sonny Jurgensen played guard before being converted to qb.

By: teal379

teal379 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:53:16 +0000

Sherman couldn’t evaluate talent in GB. It’s what cost him his job. Under Sherman, Favre got lazy and wasted a lot of years.

Sherman goes to A&M – loses his job there.

Now you want to trust him with developing the franchise QB that used to play for him (and apparently he couldn’t get to be enough of a winner to keep his job)?

Makes no sense. A&M had issues and as the coach Sherman was supposed to handle that too – didn’t/couldn’t.

Sorry Fins but Tannehill isn’t head and shoulders better than Moore and you don’t have the right OC to make him better. Philbin might be able to do it but he’s the HC and has a ton of demands on his time. He can’t babysit his QB.

By: beeronthefridge

beeronthefridge — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:51:18 +0000

Just because Tannehill played receiver doesn’t mean he cannot be a great qb.

Hall of fame qb Sonny Jergensen was a guard before becoming a qb.

By: phinfan

phinfan — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:39:07 +0000

All you idiots bashing Tannehill – How did Matt Lineart pan out?

By: uscfan1988

uscfan1988 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:30:01 +0000

I guess in college it was tannehills fault his defense couldn’t stop anyone and it was tannehills fault their wide outs dropped 70 passes and I guess it was tannehills fault he had a decent at best offensive line. You never know with qbs hes clearly not luck or griffin but he has talent.

By: fordraptorforum

fordraptorforum — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:29:25 +0000

Tannehill needs to sit and learn. He has every tool he needs except experience. Experience can be given to him, intelligence, arm strength, accuracy, and athleticism cannot, but this kid was born with those traits. Don’t rush Tannehill, groom him right and regardless of what all these commenters write there is NOTHING that says he can’t be great someday.

He may be RAW, but if he can show what he did in only <20 games, I can't wait to see what he'll be able to do in 3 years.

By: jbcommonsense

jbcommonsense — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:24:48 +0000

Miami had to make this pick. Do I agree with Ireland’s reasoning? No. This is a gamble. Tannehill did not transform his team as Luck, Griffin did. That said I wish the Dolphins luck.

By: jimr10

jimr10 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:22:27 +0000

You must be kidding… the fifth best quarterback in the big whatever…could not bring his team back in three games…. experience? how about talent? and… i would think the owner had something to do with it..

By: tonyt33

tonyt33 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:22:08 +0000

I had suspected that Ireland was not a great talent evaluator and now thanks to his ridiculous statement about Tannehill being as talented as Luck he has left no doubt. How is this clown a GM? LOL

By: dg0122

dg0122 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:21:49 +0000

That, and being a capable qb.

By: mrjay37

mrjay37 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:00:00 +0000

If Sherman and Tannehill didn’t work in college wat makes the Dolphins think it will in the NFL…am I wrong or did he jus get fired from A&M

By: gweez76

gweez76 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:56:27 +0000

And being a proven winner. 4th qtr melt downs. Costly interceptions.

Cam Newton had fewer starts than he did.

By: 1bigtex

1bigtex — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:52:53 +0000

Of the six decent teams that A&M played last year, Tannenhill threw 12 TDs and 12 INTs with an 0-6 final record. A HUGE reach!!! Being the third best QB prospect does not necessarily equate to being a good QB prospect.

By: heat256

heat256 — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:49:50 +0000

Actually, Mike, if you did some checking you’d know that the only reason Tannehill played WR is that Sherman asked him to and he SACRIFICED his dream as a QB for the team. That’s pretty admirable.