WTF is in the water up there?

Three Super Bowl wins and the highest winning % of any team over the last decade. I’d say…. success…. that is what’s in the water up here….. success.

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For clarity purposes only, do SB losses count as success??? If so thumbs up to 18-1.
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While it is certainly disappointing to lose in the Super Bowl, it is certainly an accomplishment just to get there. It is also another indicator of a highly successful organization. Let’s see…. 5 SB appearances in 10 years with 3 SB wins and the highest winning percentage in the league over the past decade. The facts don’t lie whether people such as yourself want to acknowledge it or not.

@olcap: He luckily acquired? Brady was a 6th round pick, 199th overall (A compensatory pick, no less). That wasn’t luck, that was just plain stupidity on the part of 31 other NFL teams.
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Oh, I see. So what you’re saying then, is that the great genius also was plenty stupid for bypassing him 5 times before finally spending a draft pick on him. He took an awful big chance of never having his meal ticket, and was, as you said, plain stupid 5 times before he was a genius.

At this point I’m pretty convinced the guy could build a roster of UFA’s and still win.

WTF is in the water up there?

Three Super Bowl wins and the highest winning % of any team over the last decade. I’d say…. success…. that is what’s in the water up here….. success.

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For clarity purposes only, do SB losses count as success??? If so thumbs up to 18-1.

The way I see it is the Pats really wanted him, and putting lots of good special teamers where they can then move them into dime, etc. is a great strategy.

It’s really just a case of resource allocation and we all assume that just because a guy is left to FA means we’ll get him. That’s a risk no matter what. They chose to not take those risks and that seems a good idea to me.

WTF is in the water up there?

Three Super Bowl wins and the highest winning % of any team over the last decade. I’d say…. success…. that is what’s in the water up here….. success.

@JWReck: Not that I don’t agree with you that the Pats get a ton of coverage….but, they do have the best win% of the last 11 (134-42|.761)years in the NFL and are the reigning AFC Champs….so media attention is to be expected.

The media aren’t loyal though, give the Pats a few down years (presumably the first couple after Brady retires…if they don’t have some magic in their pocket ala Brady taking over for Cassel), and it’ll be another team in the limelight, and then the majority of fans will be pissed/jealous over them, instead heh.
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True that, public relations drive the world. Yeah, just pray that the decline in on-the-field success doesn’t coincide with the the Kraft family selling the team off to a diminutive real estate mogul with control issues and no people skills(trust me, the results aren’t pretty).

Actually, they signed him to a no risk deal. His contract monies were contingent on performance and they gave up nothing to get him. When Haynesworth proved that he was going to continue being a lazy bum… the Pats dumped him. No harm/No foul. The upside was that the lazy bum actually could be a beast if only he would try. He didn’t so they cut him immediately when it became obvious. The Redskins are the ones that really took it on the chin with Fat Albert….. 100 million contract. Yikes!

“I’ll start off by saying I hate New England: I hate the Patriots, I hate the Bruins, I hate the Celtics, I hate the accents, I hate the entire region”
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You forgot the Red Sox.

Win more games.

That’s how to overcome it.

Enough of the Pats Kool Aide already.

@oldcap

“why waste a pick on somebody who wasn’t going to be drafted”?

Perhaps….but some of these other organizations are pretty smart also. I wouldn’t want to try to earn a living outsmarting Ted Thompson,Jerry Reese, Ozzie Newsombe et al on a regular basis.

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I guess you could give BB some credit there, but…I’d really only do so if it would’ve been a 1st or 2nd rounder. Remember, Brady wasn’t a shot in the dark QB, he was one of the most storied QB’s in Michigan State history.

Because any team could’ve signed him as a free agent, and probably would have tried since they all had your mentality. By drafting him, they make sure he’s a Patriot.

I don’t get why people struggle with this concept. The 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds are for drafting the players you don’t want to get away from you in free agency.
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By your logic, they should have drafted him in the 7th round, not the 6th.

They probably looked dumb drafting Cassel in the 7th rnd when he had 33 PA in college and was the 40th ranked QB. Then they flipped him for the 34th pick.

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Here’s an idea olcap;

When you decide to post idiotic comments that advertise your ignorance of NFL football, don’t exacerbate them by advertising your ignorance of basic grammar.

Because any team could’ve signed him as a free agent, and probably would have tried since they all had your mentality. By drafting him, they make sure he’s a Patriot.

I don’t get why people struggle with this concept. The 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds are for drafting the players you don’t want to get away from you in free agency.

Sounds to anyone reading your post that what you really have is simply just A LOT of HATE, period.

sad

The slip-sliding down, of the coach who owes his entire success to one player he luckily acquired through the draft as a matter of happenstance, is now going through all kinds of crazy gyrations, trying to look like he’s keen and on the cutting edge. He’s neither, and, he’s a dork.

The media aren’t loyal though, give the Pats a few down years (presumably the first couple after Brady retires…if they don’t have some magic in their pocket ala Brady taking over for Cassel), and it’ll be another team in the limelight, and then the majority of fans will be pissed/jealous over them, instead heh.

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The Pats don’t use Kiper or Mayock to make draft decisions. They don’t use any national experts, for that matter. They use their own team and always have. One of the few, I think.