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Vikings stadium bill bogged down by politics

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As the Vikings stadium bill moves closer to becoming a done deal, the measure apparently is being caught in the gears of broader deal-making.

Mike Kaszuba of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune explains that the stadium bill essentially has become a bargaining chip for other political objectives.  As to the stadium effort, Republicans are believed to be tying the final passage of the bill to Democratic Governor Mark Dayton’s “willingness to agree to business tax relief and a smaller state bond package.”

Also lingering is the funding issue, with disagreement as to whether the public contribution will come from gambling or “user fees,” with charges imposed on “tickets and stadium signs to the Vikings’ share of television revenue.”

It’s not clear where things will go from here.  The legislative session is due to end on Monday night, but it can be extended.

Plenty of folks likely would prefer that it just end, one way or the other.

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38 Responses to “Vikings stadium bill bogged down by politics”
  1. supert1978 says: Apr 29, 2012 11:08 PM

    Yeah this story is getting pretty old. I think I speak for most people when I say I am getting tired of hearing about it every time NOTHING has happened regarding the matter.

  2. johnsticle says: Apr 29, 2012 11:18 PM

    Please start reporting actual news on this issue. It’s getting ridiculous how consistent the non-informational news stories have become. Especially on this… All I wanna know is if the stadium is good to go or what is holding it up. Not a reminder that it’s being held up. Stop “reporting” the same stuff over and over!

  3. pattersonconsulting says: Apr 29, 2012 11:57 PM

    The user fee idea is brilliant. Those that use it should pay for it. How can you argue with that fairness.

  4. stanklepoot says: Apr 29, 2012 11:59 PM

    johnsticle says: Apr 29, 2012 11:18 PM

    Please start reporting actual news on this issue. It’s getting ridiculous how consistent the non-informational news stories have become. Especially on this… All I wanna know is if the stadium is good to go or what is holding it up. Not a reminder that it’s being held up. Stop “reporting” the same stuff over and over!
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    Seriously man, did you even read the article before you started complaining about it? Florio gives a list of things holding up the passage of a stadium bill. Basically, the republicans are trying to force the Dem. governor to cut business taxes and borrow less. I’m guessing if they get their way, they’ll then complain that they have to cut a number of services because there’s not enough money. Additionally, they’re considering trying to force them to put fees on tickets (btw, that’s how you tax someone while claiming you’re not taxing them). they’re also considering an attempt to basically garnish the Vikings share of tv revenue. That little bit right there would have the Vikings on the way to L.A. real quick I’m guessing. The tv revenue is what they pay the players with. Letting the government take a piece of that would leave them at a competitive disadvantage since they’d have less actual money to spend on players.

  5. crabboil says: Apr 30, 2012 12:16 AM

    LOL! Skool Vikings!

  6. Davo says: Apr 30, 2012 12:22 AM

    Can someone remind me again why the Vikings aren’t just paying for their own stadium?

  7. erod22 says: Apr 30, 2012 12:24 AM

    Why is it the only thing blue states accomplish is bankruptcy?

  8. raiderinva says: Apr 30, 2012 12:39 AM

    Vi·king
       [vahy-king] Show IPA
    noun ( sometimes lowercase )
    1.
    any of the Scandinavian pirates who plundered the coasts of Europe from the 8th to 10th centuries, unless hindered by final passage of the bill to Democratic Governor Mark Dayton’s “willingness to agree to business tax relief and a smaller state bond package.”

    I honestly believe that these people could screw up a one car parade.

  9. going4iton4th says: Apr 30, 2012 12:41 AM

    Look I’m no master politician all I’ll say is that Minnesota and the Vikings are synonymous—No way that marriage should end on any level. If politicians drop the ball than it would be typical and bad for Minnesota as a whole!

  10. letmesetyoustraight says: Apr 30, 2012 12:55 AM

    Florio is a Vikes fan so cut him some slack for wanting to cover the story.

  11. mnvikes26 says: Apr 30, 2012 12:59 AM

    The sad part is these politicians do this all the time for things far more important than a stadium, and we wonder why they screw up almost everything they do.

  12. juicebox129 says: Apr 30, 2012 1:32 AM

    Just let the House and Senate vote on this bill and get it done with!! The Minnesota people and the NFL need a yes or no answer.

  13. ryanincowtown says: Apr 30, 2012 1:48 AM

    If the Pack can play outside, so can the Vikes. I hope they don’t waste our money on a domed stadium built for multi purpose events and a true home field advantage second.

  14. gromgrimfist says: Apr 30, 2012 2:51 AM

    I live in Minnesota and it is a shame this deal can’t get done Im not even a Vikings fan but just the shock to the economy around here is going to be devastating there is over 5 billion dollars in liquor and food sales more during a viking game in Minneapolis alone thats 80 billion dollars a year not even mentioning hotels parking retail spikes from people that don’t watch football and other stuff plus to lose all the stuff the players and team do for the community itself its a shame

  15. christhefish says: Apr 30, 2012 3:12 AM

    Yeah, no worries, peeps. It is almost over. One of three things will happen. First, there will be a full house and senate vote, and the bill will be approved. Vikes stay in Minny. Second, there will be a full house and senate vote, and the bill will not be approved. The Vikes will be gone. Third, there will not be a full floor vote in EITHER the house or the senate. The Vikes will be gone. This is really getting scary for local Viking fans. Put yourself in their place for just a minute. Scary.

  16. denverscott says: Apr 30, 2012 3:40 AM

    Look at the Sacramento Kings deal went if you want to see the future. Everybody, NFL, politicians, and owners have their hands in the pot of gold and all are tugging at the final coin.

  17. fmwarner says: Apr 30, 2012 4:10 AM

    Leave it to politicians to try to get something out of this stadium bill. I swear, if there was a bill allocating free bus passes for war widows, they’d attach a rider to it for some special interest.

  18. jenniferxxx says: Apr 30, 2012 5:13 AM

    Keep voting Republican … they’ll take good care of you.

  19. gmen1987 says: Apr 30, 2012 6:06 AM

    Just move the team Zyggy and the NFL. This is getting tiresome.

  20. dd393 says: Apr 30, 2012 7:18 AM

    Politics and felony arrests. Does anyone seriously want this team to represent the state?

  21. alewatcher says: Apr 30, 2012 7:19 AM

    gromgrimfist says: Apr 30, 2012 2:51 AM

    I live in Minnesota and it is a shame this deal can’t get done Im not even a Vikings fan but just the shock to the economy around here is going to be devastating there is over 5 billion dollars in liquor and food sales more during a viking game in Minneapolis alone thats 80 billion dollars a year not even mentioning hotels parking retail spikes from people that don’t watch football and other stuff plus to lose all the stuff the players and team do for the community itself its a shame

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    5 *billion* per game in revenues? I seriously doubt that number. 50,000 people would each have to spend $100,000 to generate that kind of money. Heck, if the Vikings brought in 80 billion a year, Minnesota wouldn’t have a revenue problem.

  22. ballboy48 says: Apr 30, 2012 7:43 AM

    Politicians = biggest crooks in America! Get a deal done already, and end the story! They’re wasting more tax payer money by dragging it on!

  23. mikebrownbears30 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:10 AM

    Lakers-GONE

    North Stars- GONE

    Vikings- se you in LA

    This state loves HS and College hockey. They are too cheap to hold a professional team.

  24. billsin20xx says: Apr 30, 2012 8:23 AM

    pattersonconsulting says: Apr 29, 2012 11:57 PM

    The user fee idea is brilliant. Those that use it should pay for it. How can you argue with that fairness.

    So how do you charge all the hotels, bars, clothing merchants, restaurants, parking lot attendants, taxi’s, stadium workers, etc. that will also benefit from this?

  25. east96st says: Apr 30, 2012 8:36 AM

    “Why is it the only thing blue states accomplish is bankruptcy?”

    Because we have spent the last five decades supporting the red states. Please look up which states BRING in more federal money than they pay in taxes and which PAY more taxes than they get back. With the exception of D.C. itself, the reddest of the red get the bucks and bluest of the blue pay. PLEASE live up to your rhetoric and start refusing federal funds! We blue states need a break. You people never stop complaining but you still keep cashing the checks. Worse than ex-wives.

  26. mp42245 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:03 AM

    Hello LA.

  27. jimmysee says: Apr 30, 2012 9:04 AM

    Republicans hold stadium bill hostage.

    Typical for the party controlled by the wackjob tea party faction.

    Anywhere else, that’s called extortion and gets you a fast one way trip to the big house.

  28. realitypolice says: Apr 30, 2012 9:07 AM

    billsin20xx says:
    Apr 30, 2012 8:23 AM
    pattersonconsulting says: Apr 29, 2012 11:57 PM

    The user fee idea is brilliant. Those that use it should pay for it. How can you argue with that fairness.

    So how do you charge all the hotels, bars, clothing merchants, restaurants, parking lot attendants, taxi’s, stadium workers, etc. that will also benefit from this?
    ======================

    Simple. Draw a circle around the stadium, identify affected businesses, tax game day sales that exceed non-game day sales at a higher percentage. With an overwhelming percentage of retail transactions being done electronically these days, it would be easy to track.

    Sure, it will tough to track cash sales, and people will seek to evade taxes on that, but that always the case anyway.

    I wouldn’t apply it to lot attendants or stadium workers however, just the businesses.

  29. yizudien says: Apr 30, 2012 9:10 AM

    Living in Minnesota my whole life (32 years young!), I must say I am disappointed in our state for even considering a single dime of state money for this stadium until a balanced budget is presented and passed, as well as the money we are borrowing against the schools is paid back.

    This is like asking a person with massive credit card debt and a second mortgage to go buy a big screen on credit. We need to get our fiances under control and pay back what we owe before we do anything.

    Current bill shows tax exempt land, construction materials amount other things. If the NFL wants to take their ball and go home that is fine, the fans will follow the team regardless.

  30. johnnyjagfan says: Apr 30, 2012 9:16 AM

    The Republicans are looking for some cover for voting for higher taxes to support a billionaire. If this thing passes and they don’t get some concession elsewhere in the process, then their TEA party idiot fringe will challenge them in primaries and they won’t have a good policy to point to to counterbalance the tax increase.

  31. azvikefan says: Apr 30, 2012 9:49 AM

    Remember Minnesota, re-elect no one.

  32. cosmoman11 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:53 AM

    The funniest part of this whole thing is that if the Vikings don’t get public money to pay for part of their new stadium they will move to LA to a privately funded stadium.

  33. vikings97 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:43 AM

    No Vikings in Minnesota:

    1. 1,000′s of lost jobs = higher unemployment.
    2. 100′s of millions in lost revenue/yr.
    3. 10′s of millions lost in state taxes/yr.
    4. Where do you think they’re going to recoup these losses? Can you say, “tax increase”?

    Q: If you owned your own business, would you hire a known crook/liar/thief, to work at your business?

    A: Probably not, but you’d vote for one, to run your city/state/country.

  34. imaginesuperbowlwin says: Apr 30, 2012 12:28 PM

    I wish Jesse “The Body” could come up from Mexico and go to the capitol and start handing out some folding-chair shampoos to these bozos. Unfortunately, I hear he’s “dug in like an Alabama tick.”

  35. johnsticle says: Apr 30, 2012 1:13 PM

    stanklepoot says: Apr 29, 2012 11:59 PM

    johnsticle says: Apr 29, 2012 11:18 PM

    Please start reporting actual news on this issue. It’s getting ridiculous how consistent the non-informational news stories have become. Especially on this… All I wanna know is if the stadium is good to go or what is holding it up. Not a reminder that it’s being held up. Stop “reporting” the same stuff over and over!
    __________________________________
    Seriously man, did you even read the article before you started complaining about it? Florio gives a list of things holding up the passage of a stadium bill. Basically, the republicans are trying to force the Dem. governor to cut business taxes and borrow less. I’m guessing if they get their way, they’ll then complain that they have to cut a number of services because there’s not enough money. Additionally, they’re considering trying to force them to put fees on tickets (btw, that’s how you tax someone while claiming you’re not taxing them). they’re also considering an attempt to basically garnish the Vikings share of tv revenue. That little bit right there would have the Vikings on the way to L.A. real quick I’m guessing. The tv revenue is what they pay the players with. Letting the government take a piece of that would leave them at a competitive disadvantage since they’d have less actual money to spend on players.

    _______________________________

    Yes, I did read the article. It has no new information on what’s going on. He reported all this info a few days ago. ALl this was was a reminder or what he reported.

  36. jusford says: Apr 30, 2012 1:13 PM

    1) gromgrimfist, do you have a period key on your keyboard?
    2) It wouldn’t be the Minnesota way to finish a government session on time (note the July4th fiasco)
    3) This has gotten old. Just put the three bills to be voted on in a hat and draw which one goes first.
    4) The most important bill got Veto’d anyway. No fun fireworks for Minnesota. Now we still have to drive to Wisconsin for the good stuff.
    5) If you want to pay for the stadium, pass a bill that allows liquor sales on Sunday and use the tax revenue from that to pay for it! (see number 4).

  37. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Apr 30, 2012 1:48 PM

    Davo says:Apr 30, 2012 12:22 AM

    Can someone remind me again why the Vikings aren’t just paying for their own stadium?
    _________

    Because they don’t have to.

  38. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Apr 30, 2012 3:51 PM

    @thankheaven

    By the way, how’s your stadium coming again?

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