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So why did the Redskins want Kirk Cousins?

One of the strangest decisions of draft weekend came early in round four, when the Redskins selected former Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins.

With three first-round picks and a second-round pick shipped to St. Louis for the ability to take Robert Griffin III via pick No. 2 and $36 million in cap space gone for the next two seasons (pending resolution of the team’s grievance against the league), the selection that went for Cousins arguably should have been devoted to another position.

On Monday’s PFT Live, I offered up a theory for the move.  Redskins offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan wants his offense to be run a certain way.  What if Griffin decides once the snap is taken to do things his own way, ignoring the progression or pulling the ball down and trying to make something happen with his feet before he’s supposed to bail out on the play that was called?

With Cousins on the roster, eager to do whatever needs to be done in order to get a chance to show what he can do, Griffin will have reason to think twice about doing anything other than precisely what the Shanahans want him to do.

Yes, it’s a little far-fetched.  But it’s not nearly as far-fetched as using a fourth-round pick on a quarterback in the same draft during which the Redskins mortgaged their future to draft their first franchise quarterback in well over a generation.

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  1. brj1212 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:39 PM

    Or he has potential to be a good backup QB and as we learned this year with Chicago and Houston….its a valuable commodity to have.

    Our other backup QB is Rex Grossman who has a 1 year deal. Im cool with Cousins being our BACK UP QB in case Griff gets hurt.

  2. tomcous says: Apr 30, 2012 8:39 PM

    Why does this situation have to be so dramatic?

    Kirk said that Shanahan couldn’t let him by because of Value. Which team was not envious of the Eagles when they had a surplus of QB’s & trading chips at their disposal?

    I only hope when they trade Kirk that he does not go the way of D. McNabb or K. Kolb …

    … although Cousins would fit beautifully in Arizona!

  3. gibbskins9 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:41 PM

    Not far fetched, your thoughts have a lot of merit.
    Give the Skins back their 36 million that should of never been taken away. Then it really makes no difference. How about future trade bait? Decided by the Giants owner, LMAO.

  4. footballfanman says: Apr 30, 2012 8:42 PM

    Because they had him rated higher than a fourth rd pick and couldn’t pass up the opportunity to pick up a back up qb of that caliber.

  5. blacknole08 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:45 PM

    Here’s another theory: maybe Shanahan’s ego got the best of him. RG3 is gonna be the starter no doubt.

  6. woodyg says: Apr 30, 2012 8:50 PM

    A ridiculous theory. As much as Shanahan likes himself, RG3 will still be chucking the ball in Washington long after Mike Shanahan is gone. In fact, the sooner Shanahan hits the road, the better RG3 & the Redskins will be.

    HCs with very little tread left usually fail the 2nd time around in the NFL. Shanahan will be another example of this.

  7. chad504boy says: Apr 30, 2012 8:50 PM

    How about grossman and beck suck….?

  8. Trey says: Apr 30, 2012 8:51 PM

    You would think this would be most obvious to the PFT staff, but look what the Eagles did with Kevin Kolb. Redskins probably figured they might be able to trade him down the road. Go figure…

  9. savocabol1 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:53 PM

    RG3 was the number 2 pick. No backup in the world is going to make him think he could get benched.

  10. hendawg21 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:54 PM

    Stupidest crap i’ve ever heard…is there a problem having two good QB’s? If Cousins is as good as some may think then that makes him valuable trade bait and a very competent backup and no more need for Rex Grossmann. Personally I don’t see the big stink in drafting two QB’s no matter who you draft you want quality backups at every position including QB.

  11. nineroutsider says: Apr 30, 2012 8:55 PM

    It could just be the fact that running QBs get hurt more often (Michael Vick) and they want to be able to go to someone reliable if/when RG3 suffers an injury.

    They shouldn’t have taken RG3 if they are going to pigeonhole him into that offense, doubt that is the case.

  12. kronix7 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:57 PM

    Sounds like a lack of confidence. They did invite Luck to visit their facility. Sounds like they were hoping the Colts would’ve taken RGIII. o_O

  13. waltdawg says: Apr 30, 2012 8:57 PM

    Whatever Florio….You have been listening to McNabb too much. When you buy a Ferrari, don’t you purchase high octance fuel AND car insurance? Analogy is perfect enough said…

  14. jeffesky says: Apr 30, 2012 8:57 PM

    I get the redskins because the owner is Dan Snyder. He is the one that pulled the switch on Kirk. This owner is a Jerry Jones wana be and we all know it.

  15. skinswiz21 says: Apr 30, 2012 8:58 PM

    Enough of this argument Florio. I saw it 10 times on draft day and some lady Fox wrote on it on ESPN.com. It’s not as “farfetched” as you guys are making it. Shanahan said this year he was going to draft the best player available — not by need. In the 4th round, a projected 2nd rounder with huge upside was arguably the best available. He also adds depth at the QB position. He’s already better than John Beck and give him a year or two — he’ll be better than Grossman. There is absolutely NO controversy. RG3 is the starter. Grossman is probably the back up. Cousins is 3rd. It should light a fire under RG3 to go out and EARN the spot anyways — crazy concept, I know.

  16. kronix7 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:00 PM

    Redskins, Browns = Quarterback killers

  17. stunzeed5 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:01 PM

    Please name me one other team Cousins would have a chance to start on? Can’t name one? EXACTLY because he’s drafted as a backup, regardless who he was going to. People are acting like we drafted Cousins number 3 RIGHT after RGIII at 2. He’s either a long-term backup, get traded for picks, or he’ll fade away like Colt Brennan did and nobody will hear from him again or care about him just like Brennan who’s a backup in some foreign league.

    STOP MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL.

    Let ESPN make idiots of themselves by stirring the drama pot.

  18. cali49er707 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:01 PM

    so their having doubts that RG3 would be quick to use his feet and not his arm or bail out on the play ?? if thats their reasoning for drafting cousins then why in the world would they even draft RG3??? HUH???
    FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

  19. sneschalmers says: Apr 30, 2012 9:01 PM

    So in this proposed scenario Kirk Cousins is Matt Saracen to RGIII’s Voodoo Tatum?

  20. daysend564 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:02 PM

    They’ve given up on the next 3 years while they figure out if RGIII is worth it (plus the $36M dock). They are hoping they can fleece some team like the Eagles did with Kolb. Then when he’s settling down, they can pick up some additional picks/players.

  21. citizenstrange says: Apr 30, 2012 9:07 PM

    First of all I agree that there were other, much, MUCH more, important needs for the Redskins to spend a fourth round pick on.

    But maybe it is as simple as knowing that the chance of a qb not playing every game in a season is pretty high and Shanahan just wanting to groom two quarterbacks from scratch at the same time … rather than drafting a qb next year instead. This way they are both on the same page.

    I honestly don’t think it was to keep RG3 in line though.

  22. geniusesq says: Apr 30, 2012 9:07 PM

    He’s better than John Beck. That’s why they did it. If RG3 gets hurt, he’d be persecuted for having the same losers on the bench. Grossman is the backup. There is no controversy.

  23. 2distorted says: Apr 30, 2012 9:07 PM

    Aikman and Walsh. Enough of a threat for competition that worked out for the Cowboys. And there was a price tag of a 1 for that.

  24. vahawker says: Apr 30, 2012 9:09 PM

    Maybe they know Rex is horrible and think Cousins will be a tremendous upgrade once he gets comfortable with the system. Need a decent QB off the bench and Rexy ain’t it.

  25. Peep says: Apr 30, 2012 9:09 PM

    Why is it so baffling to pick up a back-up qb in the draft, especially in today’s NFL?

    If you have a backup qb you can plug in – you don’t miss a beat, (11-5 Patriots), don’t ever address the backup qb spot and you’re screwed, (1-15 Colts).

    I’m a skins fan who was skeptical of the pick at first glance but watching the media go into a tizzy over nothing has cleared my thoughts.

    Backup qb>backup anything else.

  26. buckybadger says: Apr 30, 2012 9:10 PM

    If you are a BAP drafter you take the best player on the board regardless of need. This is how the best teams draft and the least risky.

    If you hare targeting a player or position then you move to a spot where the value fits but if not you take the guy who is rated highest on your board.

    There are stories all over the place of teams passing on a player who was their top rated but thought they didn’t need that player. The one famous one is of the Cowboys who passed on Joe Montana in the 3rd because they where happy with Staubach and Danny White who was suppose to become the starter. Who doesn’t need Joe Montana?

    Another in basketball involves Bobby Knight talking to Houston’s GM about drafting Jordan. He told them they had to take Jordan and they said they needed a center. Knight replied with “Then draft Jordan to play center”.

    These are extreme cases but they come in all forms. If Cousins was the top rated player on their board they should draft them. You don’t know what your needs will always be.

  27. chocopoppy says: Apr 30, 2012 9:14 PM

    @Peep: your view makes sense…..if we’re talking a 6th or 7th round pick! With a mediocre team that is going to come to the next two drafts with minimal picks, why waste an early 4th on another QB when you have other needs?

  28. amgdds says: Apr 30, 2012 9:16 PM

    Not a bad point, but if Griffin is doing things his own way Shanahan is going to be gone anyway. Should have drafted another defensive player.

  29. kronix7 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:23 PM

    2-14 peep, get it right. Good point though. Just hope the Redskins don’t ruin those two Quarterbacks as I suspect that they will.

  30. blackqbwhiterb says: Apr 30, 2012 9:24 PM

    What if Rg3 blows a knee out and is never the same? Absolutely can’t go back to Rg1 long term. Got a 2nd rd QB for a 4th rd price. Excellent idea.

  31. clw1906 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:25 PM

    kronix7 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 9:00 PM
    Redskins, Browns = Quarterback killers
    Do us a favor and google Troll!

  32. 4thandnone says: Apr 30, 2012 9:29 PM

    I think a more realistic reason was they obviously can’t win with beck or grossman. So a 4th round pick isn’t a huge stretch when you have to have a backup qb that will give you a chance to win.

  33. teal379 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:33 PM

    I come from a team where BPA is the rule (Packers) but there’s BPA and BPA….

    It sort of makes sense except for one thing – RGIII is your guy. Cousins and he are polar opposites in their game. The offese the Skins run this year will be build around Robert, not Cousins.

    RGIII goes down – there’s no way Cousin’s can run that offense the same way RGIII did and you can’t just flip your entire offensive philsophy for 1 game or 2 quarters. They’ll spend the next several months building around RGIII’s abilities – not Cousins’ so while he might have been the BPA at that early 4th round spot – he wasn’t the BPA for the Skins’ needs/system at that spot.

    It’s the same way for Tebow – you can’t build an offense round the dude because when (not if) he goes down – there’s NO ONE to run that special offense. Why waste the pick/roster spot?

  34. allskins2 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:33 PM

    If you had a choice between RGIII/Grossman, RGIII/Beck, or RGIII/Cousins which would you choose? I would definately take RGIII and Cousins any day, makes sense to me.

  35. hendawg21 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:33 PM

    See and this is why folks at PFT, ESPN etc., do what they do if they truly had any football knowledge they’d be scouts /GM’s and or coaches not journalist who are wanna be scouts and GM’s and coaches. There are teams i.e the Skins it doesn’t matter what they do the skeptics all ways portray it negatively. If NE, NYG’s or NO or any other of their flavor of the day teams did this move it would be the greatest move by the personnel people of these teams…leave it alone guys we know you don’t like Snyder, Shanahan or any move the Skins make…

  36. Michael says: Apr 30, 2012 9:35 PM

    Kubiak was drafted the same year as Elway… That worked out pretty well. Cousins could have a pretty good career if he thinks big picture…

  37. mrx149 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:36 PM

    Backup QB is a position of need for the Redskins. Chiefs and Bears missed the playoffs because they didn’t have one. Colts didn’t have one either. How many people lost their jobs becaused they failed to have a backup to the most important position? Would you rather they draft a backup offensive lineman? It was a great pick.

  38. duncanthecat says: Apr 30, 2012 9:36 PM

    Since when was having two good young QB prospects a luxury?

    The Shanahan’s coached Cousins in the Senior Bowl and got to work him out extensively. When will that happen again in the conceivable future. They very much like what they are getting in each.

    They revamped the interior of their OL with much needed depth and they got quite a bit bigger at the same time.

    Added a third down back whose strength is pass protection and has good hands.

    The LB has the capability to cover TE and match them in size and speed. This was lacking big time last year.

    The two DB’s are projects.

    They clearly drafted for particular skills that were missing.

  39. Kave Krew says: Apr 30, 2012 9:36 PM

    The Shannahans Are already playing mind games with RGlll. They will ruin him too and then come after Kirk Cousins

  40. cletusvandam says: Apr 30, 2012 9:37 PM

    Just imagine how great the draft class would be if Washington, Cleveland, and Jacksonville all merged their front offices.
    You’d have them throwing picks away to move up one spot, to get the same guy they could have had by not moving. Then that guy would end up being a punter, then they would draft a back up punter in the 2nd round.

  41. stoutfiles says: Apr 30, 2012 9:38 PM

    Did anyone from PFT watch what happened to the Colts without their QB? The Bears without their QB?

  42. drboogerlips says: Apr 30, 2012 9:39 PM

    If Bill Belichick had made the same picks the media would be calling him Einstein Jr.

    HTTR!

  43. rg3baby says: Apr 30, 2012 9:40 PM

    That’s not a good theory. RG has high character with a military dad. Disobedience is not an option.

  44. skinsfansince71 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:45 PM

    I didn’t know that McNabb was a ghost writer for PFT.

  45. buckingbronco says: Apr 30, 2012 9:46 PM

    Most people forget that in 1983 Denver drafted a quaterback in addition to trading for John Elway. That quaterback was Gary Kubiak. Denver had Steve DeBerg for the 1983 season and then went with Kubiak backing up Elway until Kubiak retired in the early ’90s. This is not that different, you have Grossman instead of DeBerg and Cousins instead of Kubiak. One of the offensive coaches in Denver at that time was Mike Shanahan.
    If Cousins is an NFL starting QB he will be traded like Kolb, Schaub, etc. If he is nothing more than a journeyman QB (but most likely better than Grossman and Beck) he will back up RGIII for his career. This may well solidify the Redskins QB position for the next 10-15 years. Or both QB’s could wash out. My guess is Washington will be stable at QB for the next 10-15 years. Since there is no guarantee that Cousins can be a starter in the NFL (the argument that this is was a stupid move by Shanahan is based on that presumption — How many Rnd 1 QB’s have washed out? Why is Cousins better than those QB’s?), this good turn out to be a very smart move. Especially given the unstable QB position in Washington for the past decade.

  46. lolb23 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:47 PM

    Redskins suck at the draft. RG3 will totally bust. Cousins will leave when his contract is up. Wash and repeat until Snyder sells the team.

  47. skins4me says: Apr 30, 2012 9:50 PM

    Saturday morning I watch the pre draft talk on espn and nfl network. To a man everyone said that when you get to the fouth round to start to take the best avaliable player. They all were saying he was the best pick left in the draft. So the Skins take him and its a dumb pick. Sounds like these guys are pushing a bunch of B S to me. Just more anti Redskin crap from ESPN and the NFL network!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. donnymacjack says: Apr 30, 2012 9:52 PM

    I call it motivation for RGIII and insurance for Shannahan.

  49. mattyk72 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:54 PM

    Hard to believe a 4th round backup QB is generating this much drama.

    Often the most simple explanation makes the most sense.

    They took the best player on their board.

    End of story. Move on.

  50. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 30, 2012 9:57 PM

    Mark it down, Cousin will be starting by week 6!, ALL FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!

  51. blitzinc43 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:00 PM

    RGIII evaluations are based on his athleticism, pocket presence, arm, and apparent decision making ability, but what I haven’t heard about is his ability to read and pick up complex NFL blitz schemes,

    and if he can’t, that weak little frame won’t be able to stand those rib crunching, lung puncturing hits that we see week in and week out in the NFL…

    so in hindsight, Kirk could be seeing perhaps 6+ games a season…. considering what we see in Philly ever since Minnesota and Joe Webb figured us out and Mike always being hurt…

  52. Peep says: Apr 30, 2012 10:06 PM

    @choco: Bee, pee, ay.

    Also, not having a first does not equate to minimal picks.

  53. jhm3 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:06 PM

    Ryan Mallet goes to the Patriots in the 3rd round last year.
    Eagles pick Nick Foles in the 3rd round this year, those were “brillant” moves.

    When the skins do it everybody blasts them. I guess that wont change till they start winning

  54. bamboozle99 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:15 PM

    Good player, but considering all other gaps they have especially on defense, it’s still a terrible pick.

  55. anhdazman says: Apr 30, 2012 10:17 PM

    Redskins didn’t learn from the 1st go around with two QBs in the same draft. Shanahan and his ego will blow this whole situation up. I mean he did bet his “reputation” on Beck and Grossman.

  56. metalhead65 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:20 PM

    what’s wrong with a little competition? if rg is as good as he and everybody makes him out to be then it should not be a problem right?are he and his handlers worried that the job might not just be handied to him? that he might actually have to work for it despite all his hype? worried that when he does not produce right away that fans might start booing or chanting for couisins? maybe shanahan might want to have a good qb to develop for when grossman is not there to try and bail them out if something happens or he does not live up to his hype. what would be hilarious is grossman beats them both out!

  57. cutthajokes says: Apr 30, 2012 10:24 PM

    What other needs did the Redskins have?

    OL- They drafted 3, to go along with the 9 others they already have on the roster. Out of that 9, four were drafted by the Redskins. 7 out of the 12 were drafted in the last 3 drafts. Take out Willie Smith, undrafted.

    CB/S/FS- They currently have 14 DB’s listed on the roster. After drafting 2 this year.

    DL, LB- Not even a question the strongest positions on the redskins roster. Plus they just drafted Flecther replacement. (Keenan Robinson)
    Jarivs Jenkins returns, he is the Redskins 2r d pick this year, after missing all of last year.

    WR/TE- This unit will suprise a lot of teams this year. Hankerson will have a big year!

    QB- They had Grossman and Beck. The biggest need on this team as at QB!

    I think Mike Shanahan has been down this road before. Does Elway and Kubiak come to mind.
    How did that work out for them?

  58. kronix7 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:34 PM

    Clear1906 what do you call 23 starting Quarterbacks in 20 years? You remind me of a Saints* fan who can’t see the facts in front of you. Idiot

  59. jaggedmark says: Apr 30, 2012 10:36 PM

    But it’s not nearly as far-fetched as using a fourth-round pick on a quarterback in the same draft during which the Redskins mortgaged their future to draft their first franchise quarterback in well over a generation.
    ——————————-
    That doesn’t make sense, because that’s exactly what they did.

  60. teddybayer123 says: Apr 30, 2012 10:52 PM

    Yes, it’s a little far-fetched.  But it’s not nearly as far-fetched as using a fourth-round pick on a quarterback in the same draft during which the Redskins mortgaged their future to draft their first blah, blah blah.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time in your hands.

    Damn shame, too. Coulda been a good Matlock episode. Barnaby Jone…

  61. packers291 says: Apr 30, 2012 11:05 PM

    Cousins must have been the best player left on their board at the time. Why is this such a tough concept? The draft is about maximizing value at each and every selection. The skins had KC rated higher than the 4th round. Same reason seatlle drafted wilson in the 3rd round.

  62. PCa Survivor says: Apr 30, 2012 11:11 PM

    buckingbronco says: Apr 30, 2012 9:46 PM

    “Most people forget that in 1983 Denver drafted a quaterback in addition to trading for John Elway. That quaterback was Gary Kubiak. Denver had Steve DeBerg for the 1983 season and then went with Kubiak backing up Elway until Kubiak retired in the early ’90s. This is not that different, you have Grossman instead of DeBerg and Cousins instead of Kubiak. One of the offensive coaches in Denver at that time was Mike Shanahan.”

    _________________________________

    In 1983 Mike Shanahan was O.C. at the University of Florida.

    Nice theory though.

  63. baddegg says: Apr 30, 2012 11:15 PM

    I have a wild theory that the Redskins made that pick because they are looking for a backup QB. But I admit that I may be overthinking it.

  64. macaracoon says: Apr 30, 2012 11:18 PM

    Seems to me like they’re just hedging their bets.

    RG3 is an athletic scrambling passer, Cousins is a traditional stand-in-the-pocket passer.

    If RG3 tanks, they’ll have another shot to put this guy in and if he turns out to be good, people don’t really complain about RG3 as much. If he’s no good too, well a wasted 4th round pick will be nothing compared to what they wasted on RG3.

  65. youhavenoclue says: Apr 30, 2012 11:19 PM

    because they know Robert Griffin the TURD will be a bust

  66. clw1906 says: Apr 30, 2012 11:27 PM

    peytonsneck18 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 9:57 PM
    Mark it down, Cousin will be starting by week 6!, ALL FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!

    This is the dumbest jackass troll I’ve ever seen. He’s such an idiot.

  67. briang123 says: Apr 30, 2012 11:33 PM

    As an Eagles fan, I am happy as you know what that the Redskins think they are in a position to take a 4th round luxury pick they might be able to flip for a 2nd rounder in 2015, rather than take a shot on a player that could have helped them right away, and there were players available that point that could have easily been guys better than the dregs the Redskins were putting out there last year. However, as much as I laugh at Snyder and think the difference between Shanahan and Bruce Coslet is Terrell Davis, I just know they aren’t thinking that. I think the Cousins picks shows 2 things; RG3 was a Snyder pick all the way and the Redskins are hedging their bets with Cousins.

    And to correct those above, Kolb wasn’t drafted to develop and trade, he was drafted as McNabb’s successor. The McNabb and Reid eras were over in 2008. The Eagles tied the lousy Bengals, got rolled by the Ravens where McNabb was benched for Kolb, who was criminally awful. Then, 4 days later McNabb started on Thanksgiving, he threw 4TDs vs the Cardinals, and the Eagles made a run OT the NFC title game in which, shockingly, McNabb lost. McNabb got another year, then the Kolb era started in 2919. It last all of one half. Kolb got a concussion, Vick came in, and that was that. Please refrain from commenting unless you know your history.

  68. burntorangehorn says: May 1, 2012 12:02 AM

    What if Griffin decides once the snap is taken to do things his own way, ignoring the progression or pulling the ball down and trying to make something happen with his feet before he’s supposed to bail out on the play that was called?
    ===================================
    Any quarterback could be subject to such a what-if, Florio, and assuming you watched much of Griffin, you know darn well he’s not a guy who goes all Mike Vick and pulls the ball for a run instead of going through his reads.

  69. skinsfaninnebraska says: May 1, 2012 12:06 AM

    I’m sorry to say this, Mr. Florio, because I generally think your writing here is excellent. But, you have just dropped yourself down to the same level as Skip Bayless with this stupid RGIII vs. Cousins post of yours. Must have been a really slow news day for you or something.

    It’s not far-fetched at all to think the Skins might have just solidified their QB position for the foreseeable future with two picks in one draft, or that they might have gotten a quality backup that could be flipped in a couple years to replace one of the high picks they traded for their new starter.

    Look at who else was on their roster at the beginning of Draft Day: Grossman and Beck? Come on, the sooner they can be rid of both of those guys (and yes, I know Beck has been cut already) the better.

  70. rg3isvictory says: May 1, 2012 12:28 AM

    PFT is milking this non story for all it’s worth!!! Mean while we haven’t had a decent update on a “story” regarding turn theft of the Skinz cap space by Mara and Goodell! Swing and a miss by PFT again!

  71. baldeaglejohnie says: May 1, 2012 12:42 AM

    Skins took a while and finally got something right with the aggressive move of all in for Rg3 and then quickly did something confusing and controversial by dimissioning the confidence of your future with an inevitably split lockerroom. nice move Shanny. I’d be coming up with desperate excuses. as well if I was an redskins fan.

    yea I know superbowl trophys, you and the girls can shut it, it’s been to long for both of ya, we can starting bringing up our rings from forties and sixty. only the gents can talk right now . :)

  72. switch123 says: May 1, 2012 12:46 AM

    They have the possibility of having a starting franchise QB with a very good back up. Thats All I See. Really sad that PFT, ESPN and all the others only worry about drama and ratings

  73. duncanthecat says: May 1, 2012 12:58 AM

    To BRIANG123…

    Let us fans to the rest of the NFL correct you and your holier than though facade. We know our history well and your Eagles have never won
    anything to speak of expect beating Dallas in the 1980 NFC Championship and painfully losing two SuperBowls. One of which was winable by most accounts.

    To say that RGIII is wholey a directive from an owner at the immense price paid shows nothing more than shallowness.

    If you really want to be educated please read my earlier post on this subject; otherwise, do not even attempt to portray yourself as the wise voice. No one is buying it.

  74. 4evrnyt says: May 1, 2012 1:43 AM

    The Redskins want to put themselves in the same position the Eagles found themselves in. From the outside Washington will have two starting QB’s, they have one for depth for now but at the end of the season you can bet that the Redskins will be trying to get a Kolb type of a trade to recoup some of those lost picks.

  75. walter0247 says: May 1, 2012 2:13 AM

    Signed 2 Wide Receivers
    Drafted ANOTHER Runningback
    Drafted 3 Offensive Linemen
    Signed 1 LB and Drafted another
    Signed 1 CB Drafted 1 CB and Signed a UDFA CB
    (Didn’t touch the D-line… too much depth already)

    Looks like a offseason for depth to me… what did any of you expect the Skins to completely forget about the QB position or something. Could you please explain to me a better way to upgrade over beck? Actually nah im sure there’s some “Great” QB’s for depth in the free agency :/

  76. walter0247 says: May 1, 2012 2:16 AM

    Oops forgot about the 2 safety’s they signed as well. lol

  77. buddybowl69 says: May 1, 2012 2:26 AM

    PCa Survivor says:
    Apr 30, 2012 11:11 PM
    buckingbronco says: Apr 30, 2012 9:46 PM

    “Most people forget that in 1983 Denver drafted a quaterback in addition to trading for John Elway. That quaterback was Gary Kubiak. Denver had Steve DeBerg for the 1983 season and then went with Kubiak backing up Elway until Kubiak retired in the early ’90s. This is not that different, you have Grossman instead of DeBerg and Cousins instead of Kubiak. One of the offensive coaches in Denver at that time was Mike Shanahan.”

    _________________________________

    In 1983 Mike Shanahan was O.C. at the University of Florida.

    Nice theory though.
    =================================

    The Broncos had to draft a QB, because they didn’t know they would have Elway until several WEEKS later when they traded for him.

    And BTW, best player available my arse, LOL…

    What ever happened to trading down to get more picks; and what would have happened if the next time to pick if the best player available was also a QB? Too many holes to fill for this joke to have happened.

  78. stunzeed5 says: May 1, 2012 3:09 AM

    clw1906 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 11:27 PM
    peytonsneck18 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 9:57 PM
    Mark it down, Cousin will be starting by week 6!, ALL FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!

    This is the dumbest jackass troll I’ve ever seen. He’s such an idiot.
    ————————————————–

    Don’t worry about him clw1906, he’s harmless. His IP address has multiple user names, to include “boysroll”. He’s a slimy little troll who has 5 usernames; not smart enough to hide or man enough to reveal. COLD BUSTED peytonsneck18…..

  79. stunzeed5 says: May 1, 2012 3:17 AM

    clw1906 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 11:27 PM
    peytonsneck18 says:
    Apr 30, 2012 9:57 PM
    Mark it down, Cousin will be starting by week 6!, ALL FAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!!

    This is the dumbest jackass troll I’ve ever seen. He’s such an idiot.
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    He’s also “youhavenoclue”…..who posted back to back (11:19 and 11:27) in here. He’s gutless as hell.

  80. bbk1000 says: May 1, 2012 6:33 AM

    Question asked:

    “So why did the Redskins want Kirk Cousins?”

    Question answered:

    Because they think the QB market will be so bad in years to come that someone will be desperate enough to throw them a #1 and #3 for the guy.

    or

    They are just stupid, still not sure myself.

  81. blackqbwhiterb says: May 1, 2012 7:11 AM

    I wouldn’t be shocked if 5-7 years from now, Kirk Cousins is a big time NFL QB….playing for the Washington Redskins

  82. theytukrjobs says: May 1, 2012 7:43 AM

    It is pretty clear. Shanahan doesn’t want the “old starter” holding the clip board. It would also appear that the Redskins had a really high grade on Cousins and saw a lot of value.

    QB’s get hurt. Backups are important. If Cousins is as good as Shanahan thinks then perhaps he can eventually parlay him into a 1st rounder after getting some quality backup usage out of him.

    Personally I think you back up an athletic QB with an athletic QB. I’m assuming the Redskins offense will involve an abnormally high number of roll outs and spread formations to take advantage of Griffin’s mobility. Cousins can’t do those same things.

  83. jimyritz says: May 1, 2012 7:44 AM

    You have a stud rookie QB and a veteran backup so why draft Cousins…if you have to light a fire, as someone else put it, under RG3 then you have a problem—

  84. kozmo50 says: May 1, 2012 8:15 AM

    The QB position is the most important position on the football field……..now the Redskins have the luxury of 2 potentials…….the other 2 they had SUCKED!!

  85. rajimoto says: May 1, 2012 8:17 AM

    n+1 redundancy, you never buy anything this expensive without a proper backup plan.

  86. kronix7 says: May 1, 2012 8:18 AM

    Clw1906 can’t come up with one objectable argument other than calling other people Trolls and Idiots. Haha you are absolutely the worst NFL fan in the Country. I’d “almost” say that your worse than a Saints* fan. There’s nothing better than pissing off dumb fans off. Washington are still QB killers and that’s is a fact. Teams like yours and the Browns have wasted QB’s over the years by simply pulling them out and not give them a chance to develope. If you disagree with that than your not paying any attention. That makes you a coolaid drinker. I have no problem with the Redskins picking up another QB in the draft. When you see post that say Cousins will be the starting QB in week 6 It’s not that farfetched.

  87. vipod4ever says: May 1, 2012 8:38 AM

    Call it “Bust Insurance”. Since we are all becoming “sports conspiracy theorists” on this story, I’ll throw my 2 cents. What if something occurred over the last couple of weeks prior to the draft. For what it’s worth, Bruce Allen did say just prior to the draft that there is a 99.9% chance they would draft RG3…why not 100%? Something tells me the Redskins noticed something about RG3 that red flagged them. Makes no sense taking Cousins, when there are plenty of decent backups available in the league, and the value of that pick can be placed in a needed area.

  88. espnfeedback says: May 1, 2012 9:56 AM

    Mike Shanahan and his nepotism are simply being exposed as the years go by and the magnification intensifies. Really examine what happened in Denver. He had what many consider the most gifted Complete QB to walk the gridiron. But he happened to fall upon Terrell Davis who turned out to be the ‘piece’ that made the engine run. Since then, he has not come close to replicating the success. From Plummer to McNabb to Grossman and Beck, his efforts have ended not only in lackluster outcomes but he has often alienated many around him including his ‘hand picked’ signal callers.

    I agree winning SBs back to back deserves respect. But Shanahan has past the point where he deserves complete benefit of doubt.

    @ESPNfeedback

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  90. edavidberg says: May 1, 2012 10:15 AM

    This isn’t a bad pick. The draft is a crapshoot. The Skins do not have a legit backup QB, Rex Grossman is horrible. NFL teams have to have a solid backup, so why not take Cousins who was a hell of a college QB. It provides the extra benefit of having someone to compete and push RGIII in practice.

    The Bears wasted their season last year not having even a remotely capable backup. Even as a rookie Cousins may be able to step in ala Yates and win a couple games for them if Griffin gets injured. I don’t understand the criticism over a 4th round pick.

  91. kronix7 says: May 1, 2012 11:11 AM

    Edavidburg, nothing wrong with your assesment. I think it is valid. I think what people are saying is that when RGIII struggles (which all rookies do) the Redskins will pull him and try Cousins. What I’m saying is, let RGIII play. If he gets injured that’s one thing. It a tendancy that is well known in in Washington and in Cleveland. Even Shanahan is guilty of it. Even in Denver he has done it. Good coach, but not with QB’s. Remember he inherited John Elway.

  92. boomer1988 says: May 1, 2012 11:38 AM

    The Redskins drafted a second quarterback for great reasons. 1st John Beck is not a reliable backup 2nd John Beck was scheduled to earn what $1.3 million next year as third string and holding a clip board. 3rd Rex has a 1 year deal and should be finished after next season 4th the Skins got hit with a cap penalty of $36 million over the next 2 years and that draft pick saved them a cool million to spend on other needs. Again great move! HTTR

  93. dikshuttle says: May 1, 2012 11:59 AM

    It’s really not that complicated. And it’s not like there isn’t precedent:

    Schuler / Ferrotte.

    Plus RG3 has shown EVERY indication that he wants to do things the way his coarches lay out. He understands chain-of-command. Just look at Jaws’ comments on the rook.

    Sorry Flo, just sounds like you’re trying to 1) come up with an original outlook and 2) create a story.

  94. The Overtime Sports Talk Show says: May 1, 2012 12:08 PM

    Still trying to figure out why having two capable young QB’s is a bad thing. Can someone anyone answer that question? Probably not..

  95. kozmo50 says: May 1, 2012 1:00 PM

    There’s a NAVY SEALs saying…….If you need 1 then you’ll need 2.

  96. trollhammer20 says: May 1, 2012 2:04 PM

    It was a smart pick, as was Seattle drafting Russell Wilson. Here’s why:

    Both teams have made clear investments in new starting QBs, RG3 and Matt Flynn. However, there are no guarantees that either one won’t be the next Akili Smith or Scott Mitchell….or that they won’t spend any part of their next few seasons injured.

    If it becomes apparent in the next two seasons that Flynn or Griffin aren’t “the answer”, what better to have around? A career journeyman/second string-caliber player like Grossman or Tavaris Jackson? Or a young kid who has what the older players have already proven they don’t have: The upside required to become a star in the league.

    Doesn’t mean that Wilson or Cousins are guaranteed to be stars, of course, but they have more “star potential” than Beck, Grossman, and Tavaris Jackson, simply because with the older players, we already pretty much know their ceilings.

  97. renhoekk2 says: May 1, 2012 3:18 PM

    Anybody they took in the 4th round was going to be for depth. They signed a couple of WR and DB in FA. They had their eye on 3 OL in the draft. Drafted a LB and RB. Signed two other LB in FA. They signed and drafted a bunch of DL and WR last season. What other position were they supposed to address. If they took a CB to be the 6th guy on the depth chart and drafted a QB next year that would have been OK I guess. What difference does it make if they drafted a backup QB in the fourth round this year or next? They last two drafts they drafted 21 players. They didn’t need anymore depth at other positions.

  98. hitwithafade says: May 2, 2012 3:31 PM

    if Andy Reid or Bill Belicheck drafted a QB in the first round Mike would be boot licking as usual

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