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Being better in the regular season means NOTHING, if they don’t win it all. They didn’t win it all in any of those seasons, therefore the cheating did help them in the games that mattered most.

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How so? Please explain in detail.

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The years before they were caught (the years that they were cheating undetected) were the years that they had the most successes in the playoffs, including three titles (big games). Since they were caught, they have won ZERO titles (big games).

The Packers had a great regular season record this past season, but no title, so it meant NOTHING.

Nice reply.
Anyone with a screen name of “axespray” reeks of 2 things:
ignorance and immaturity…
Axespray? Please.
Go and listen to your Justin Beiber and Katy Perry CD’s.

“For there to have been a benefit prior to 2007 there also would also have had to be the opposite after 2007 and yet we see that that is not the case.”

Patriot’s teams before 07 were semi talented, not super talented…. winning 3 point games against far more talented teams like the 01 Rams is a bit fishy, Then you had games where Brady could tell which blitzes Jim Johnson was throwing at him.

Nowadays, Patriots are one of the more talented teams and they’re losing to average teams with ok coaching in the playoffs like the Ravens/Jets & Giants. …just saying

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Go back and look at the 2003 and 2004 patriots teams. they were absolutely stacked, particularly on defense. 14-2 both seasons.

Harrison, Bruschi, T Johnson, Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, Samuel, Vrabel, McGinnest, Colvin, etc.

To say that they were semi-talented is completely misleading. And the 2001 team was definitely an underdog to the Rams, but many of those players were considered average at the time and ended up being stars (Brady, Ty Law, Troy Brown, Milloy)

But dont let the facts get in the way of your biased opinion.

Before you comment, you might want to know the facts. The reporter who wrote those allegations, later retracted his comments after Matt Walsh, the team’s videographer at the time and the haters’ star witness, told Goodell that no taping of walk throughs ever occurred. The reason Walsh was brought in was because of these fabricated allegations. So, if you want to believe falsehoods to prove your point, then you have no legs to stand on.

Fact, the taping of practices and walk throughs was a fabrication.

Fact, what was filmed is not illegal according to league rules (notice I said WHAT was filmed).

So, like I said, it’s amazing how many people–including some NFL coaches and players–simply accept the media’s line that the Pats illegally filmed the Jets’ sidelines. It is a misleading statement that makes it seem that you cannot film the opposing team’s sideline when in fact the only thing illegal about it was that the camera placement rule was broken.

The punishment was more about defying the new commissioner than anything else. Mangini has already come out with his regret in the matter. When Spygate went down, I predicted that Mangini would be blackballed and would regret telling the league. I was actually shocked that Cleveland hired him, but after I read about his link to Lerner, it wasn’t so shocking. But, you mean to tell me that Mangini can’t get an assistant coaching gig? I also predicted that Goodell will admit regret in how he handled the matter at some point in the future. We shall see on that count.

Believe me, as a fan of the Pats, I have done my research on the matter. Unlike you, I did not lie to make my point. Also, unlike you, I didn’t call you a name to make myself feel better.

You wont get any explanations from the haters about the Pats benefiting from taping before it was against the rules. There arent any.

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Only by nitwit fringe haters like you.

Giants cheated, too. It’s even on video tape for those interested in finding it.
YouTube: keywords, Deon Grant, and Fred Robbins faking injury.
Tainted SB’s, period.
IN fact, no one in your corner has ever once proven that NE gained any benefit from Taping signals from the wrong spot on the field.
Conversely, it is abundantly clear to anyone viewing the videos I referenced, that the Giants gained “in-game” benefit from faking injuries.
Proven CHEATERS.
Prove to us NE gained a benefit?
Can you? Thought not.

Your argument is deeply rooted in speculation and fundamentally flawed.

You lose, Bozo……again.

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Being better in the regular season means NOTHING, if they don’t win it all. They didn’t win it all in any of those seasons, therefore the cheating did help them in the games that mattered most.

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How so? Please explain in detail.

bearsrulepackdrool says:
May 1, 2012 11:47 AM
Hmmm. Since spygate. The Ravens have only beaten the Pats once. Yea, that explains it all.

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Ahhhhh but the GIANTS have beaten them three out of the four times since — and only failed to win the other one because of a fluky blown coverage late in the game.

Pats vs. Ravens track record does not nullify his point, so don’t even try it.

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Actually it does. But, what does the Pats vs. Giants record have to do with his point? Absolutely nothing. Seeing as how it occurred after spygate and has nothing to do with the Ravens.

I know the Giants are talking about “fluke blow coverage.” If it weren’t for David Tyree and Mario Manningham’s fluke catches, Eli Manning wouldn’t even be in the league right now.

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And if not for the Pats’ cheating, they would have a worse SB record than the Buffalo Bills.

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Being better in the regular season means NOTHING, if they don’t win it all. They didn’t win it all in any of those seasons, therefore the cheating did help them in the games that mattered most.

Patriot’s teams before 07 were semi talented, not super talented…. winning 3 point games against far more talented teams like the 01 Rams is a bit fishy, Then you had games where Brady could tell which blitzes Jim Johnson was throwing at him.

Nowadays, Patriots are one of the more talented teams and they’re losing to average teams with ok coaching in the playoffs like the Ravens/Jets & Giants. …just saying

bearsrulepackdrool says:
May 1, 2012 11:47 AM
Hmmm. Since spygate. The Ravens have only beaten the Pats once. Yea, that explains it all.

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Ahhhhh but the GIANTS have beaten them three out of the four times since — and only failed to win the other one because of a fluky blown coverage late in the game.

Pats vs. Ravens track record does not nullify his point, so don’t even try it.

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Actually it does. But, what does the Pats vs. Giants record have to do with his point? Absolutely nothing. Seeing as how it occurred after spygate and has nothing to do with the Ravens.

I know the Giants are talking about “fluke blow coverage.” If it weren’t for David Tyree and Mario Manningham’s fluke catches, Eli Manning wouldn’t even be in the league right now.

30, 40, 50 years later…Pats still will be branded as cheaters.

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You are completely wrong as are most who comment on this matter.

The 2 clowns with Ray were tried for murder-and found innocent. Do you understand the implication?

PS Why wouldn’t the Pats cheat after the Tuck Rule showed them the way?

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Namecalling. INVENTED in New England when it comes to sports (you conveniently forget the “Yankees Suck” t-shirts that continue to populate Fenway Park. WOW. Very classy. Choke on that, suckbona.

Best winning percentage? With ZERO titles. That is the only fact that matters. The rest is all window dressing. You and the rest of the NE crybabies are the real whiners.

“The bottom line is New England has the best winning percentage in the NFL (and all of U.S professional sports)”

Except for the Harlem Globetrotters; boom roasted.

i would have done the same thing that Ray did and gave money to people who lost their child if i had it… it would be the least i could do… Ray also cut ties with all the low life losers who hung around him afterwards and actually did something with his life in a most positive way… i bet you haven’t even done a single percent compared to what he has for people in his lifetime…

P.S.
Please shut up.

Second,
anybody that calls Ray Lewis a Murderer is a moron and doesnt’ know jack about that case, the only thing that could possibly be true is that he may have been acquiantances with someone who did do it… and when the Prosecuting attorney says to Ray to his face “I don’t care if you did it or not, you are gonna pay for this anyway” settling out of court seems like such a better outcome when you are screwed by the system, regardless neither situation brings the victim back to life and has NOTHING to do with this article… most of you are Steeler fans or just Raven haters…

Third,
anyone who thinks the Ravens have ever had a bounty system is a hater as well… the Ravens D hits the hardest in the league and they get a bad rap because your team is usually the ones getting the beat down from our Defense… hate all you want.. but they are far from dirty and don’t need bounties for any motivation… if anything… the entire offense has the bounty on them EVERY GAME… but the only reward is complete satisfaction when they are put on their ass… keep on hating people… the Ravens will continue to prove it on the field that they are contenders year in and year out