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Ryan says Jets didn’t want Irvin at No. 16, or at No. 43

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Over the weekend, a report emerged that the Jets were eyeballing defensive end Bruce Irvin with the 16th overall pick in the draft.  But Irvin went off the board at No. 15 to Seattle, and the Jets took defensive end Quinton Coples with the next selection.

Now that the Jets have Coples and not Irvin, the Jets predictably are saying they got the guy they wanted all along.  In fact, coach Rex Ryan took it a step farther, saying that they didn’t want Irvin ahead of either Coples or second-rounder Stephen Hill, whom the Jets traded up to get at No. 43.

“He’s a guy we did a lot of stuff on,” Ryan said of Irvin on Tuesday night, via NFL.com.  “We liked Bruce Irvin as a player, but not ahead of the first two guys we took.”

It’s impossible to lend any serious weight to those comments.  Of course Ryan isn’t going to say he wanted a guy he didn’t get.  If Ryan did, that wouldn’t help set the tone for Coples to be successful — and it would invite criticism of the Jets’ failure to leap-frog the Seahawks, especially if Irvin becomes the next Dwight Freeney or Clay Matthews.

So it’s no surprise that Ryan said what he said.  It would have been far more noteworthy if he’d said something else.

Meanwhile, Ryan’s comments came at the same event during which he gushed about Tim Tebow.  It was organized to help Jets fan Michael Manganiello find a match for a bone-marrow transplant.  Manganiello was diagnosed last month with acute myelofibrosis, which impairs the ability of bone marrow to make blood cells.

More than 400 fans had their cheeks swabbed at “A Match for Michael,” an event which also raised money for the Manganiello family.

So while the Jets provide plenty of ammo for scrutiny and criticism, we applaud them for helping Michael and his family.

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45 Responses to “Ryan says Jets didn’t want Irvin at No. 16, or at No. 43”
  1. cosanostra71 says: May 2, 2012 12:02 AM

    I know I’m in the minority, but I do find Rex Ryan very entertaining.

  2. duanethomas says: May 2, 2012 12:04 AM

    Its simple Rex didn’t like Irvins feet….hit the drums. I’ll be here all week folks.

  3. chawk12thman says: May 2, 2012 12:22 AM

    The only thing that can be said with 100% accuracy on this specific topic is that the Seahawks wanted Irvin more than Coples.

  4. marlin1894 says: May 2, 2012 12:30 AM

    I used to think Rex Ryan was awesome. He wasn’t the typical coach with stock answers. I’ve officially had enough of him and the Jets. Everything he says is empty now. Plus, the team that traded up and drafted Sanchez at number 5 has no credibility. I hope Bruce Irvin lights it up just to make Ryan and the Jets look even more foolish than they already do.

  5. bonzohawks says: May 2, 2012 12:49 AM

    He’s just saying that because he missed out. haha

  6. ningenito78 says: May 2, 2012 12:57 AM

    Well done Jets. Great cause.

  7. sasattack says: May 2, 2012 12:57 AM

    I’m no Jets’ fan even though I live in their backyard, but maybe the report Mike was referring to was BS just like the other zillion draft reports that were BS.

  8. possiblecabbage says: May 2, 2012 1:11 AM

    While, yes, it’s impossible to lend any serious weight to comments like “we didn’t want [that guy we didn't get]“, shouldn’t it also be impossible to lend any serious weight to “we got this guy in this spot because all these other teams would have taken him if we didn’t.”

    The fact of the matter is that since teams don’t make their draft boards public, all reports about “such and such team had so and so valued this high” should be viewed with skepticism.

  9. gator2006 says: May 2, 2012 1:13 AM

    Jets @ SEA Nov. 11

  10. tjh9985 says: May 2, 2012 1:23 AM

    So I suppose the NY Post was lying when they said Rex freaked out in the war room after Seattle picked…C’mon Rex.

  11. rexryanbigmouth says: May 2, 2012 1:23 AM

    Maybin and Coples are going to drill Brady into the turf. We are gonna blitz on 50% of our snaps. It’s gonna be a war on quarterbacks for gang green his year!

  12. thraiderskin says: May 2, 2012 1:33 AM

    “So while the Jets provide plenty of ammo for scrutiny and criticism, we applaud them for helping Michael and his family.”

    word…

  13. rudwo says: May 2, 2012 1:38 AM

    The Seahawks claiming other teams had Irvin rated in the 1st round feels like a smokescreen.

  14. kappy32 says: May 2, 2012 3:02 AM

    This guy just can’t be believed. Everything he says is either a unfulfilled guarantee, an unbelievable vote of confidence, or just a flat out lie. With what he said about Irvin, the truth most likely is that he cried like a baby when the Seahawks picked him. Rex is so full of himself that he thought he was going to “one-up” everyone, draft Irvin, and make him into a great pass rusher. Unfortunately for him, he got outsmarted by a crappy coach & regardless of where he is, Irvin is going to be a solid pro pass rusher with his lightning speed coming off the edge.

  15. sabatimus says: May 2, 2012 3:13 AM

    And the blowhard just keeps blowing.

  16. IainRWB says: May 2, 2012 3:22 AM

    I don’t believe for a second the Jets would have taken Irvin in the first two rounds. They already have one Maybin, why draft another?

  17. bearsfan63 says: May 2, 2012 3:35 AM

    Translation: We’re really pissed we missed out on him, we thought we were the only ones who were high on him but we’ll never admit it.

    Rex acts like he would have avoided him like Phil Emery and the Bears avoided any O- lineman during this draft

  18. botchedextrapoint says: May 2, 2012 3:36 AM

    You lost me at Ryan says…

  19. nyjalleffingday says: May 2, 2012 3:54 AM

    The Jets organization does things like this all the time, but why would I want to read about the good they do in the community?

    More stories about Tebows personal life and the fat deviant foot loving freak, please.

  20. jus10jonez says: May 2, 2012 4:04 AM

    Who cares?

  21. maxvv says: May 2, 2012 4:11 AM

    I don’t see how the Jets provided ammo for scrutiny and criticism. You yourself even acknowledged that Rex said what any coach would. It sounds to me like you’re looking to dredge up controversy at an event designed to help a sick child. So…good journalism there, buddy?

  22. offthelows says: May 2, 2012 4:16 AM

    someday we may learn the truth though depending how Irvin or Coples do we may not care. The Syracuse DE, Chandler Jones, was thought to be a second rounder but word leaked he was screaming up boards and suddenly all the draft experts started slotting him mid to late 1st round. It could be the teams rating Jones high just had bigger mouths than those with 1st round grades on Irvin, and had they let the word out on Irvin a few weeks ago and the experts had time to adjust, they’d rate the pick with approval. In a lot of ways the mock drafts are front office intimidation tactics, where this army of skeptics will blast you for going off the plot and those worrying about their jobs will say, I don’t need these negative headlines, I may have this 2nd round projected guy on the top of my board, but I’ll take the safe round and just select the second guy on my board but one with a higher consensus rating.

  23. cooklynn17 says: May 2, 2012 5:40 AM

    And I’m quite sure. Irvin didn’t want you either.

  24. pencilmonkeymagic says: May 2, 2012 6:06 AM

    Didn’t want Irvin but he did want Tebow. Good luck with that Rex!

  25. cubsin2049 says: May 2, 2012 6:47 AM

    Just as long as he got the 4 doughnuts and chocolate shake he wanted as he was heading into work today then everything is cool.

  26. pftusername1 says: May 2, 2012 7:14 AM

    good job coach, way to motivate Hill by telling him he wasn’t that important to you on draft day.

  27. brooklynniner19 says: May 2, 2012 7:30 AM

    Why is there so much talk about this guy Bruce Irving? Geez, we get it Sea reach, at least let him hit training camp before every team denies wanting him. Smh, oh well as long as A.J Jenkins goes under the radar until hit puts up Mike Wallaces type numbers ;) .#Go49ers

  28. mattsffrd says: May 2, 2012 7:30 AM

    Rex Ryan is an idiot, but nobody wanted Irvin that early. He was a 2nd rounder at best, and that’s a stretch.

  29. glisic says: May 2, 2012 7:41 AM

    Week 10
    New York Jets @ Seattle Seahawks
    Sun, 11/11 at 4:05 PM EST

    Can’t wait…

  30. kleppnasty says: May 2, 2012 7:55 AM

    Pftusername1…. What? The quote was not negative towards Hill at all, what are you talking about?

  31. rexelmania74 says: May 2, 2012 7:58 AM

    Why don’t you write a story about the gm
    Jerry Reese losing out on Doug Martin And taking Wilson , he came out and said we got the guy we wanted in wilson . This happens all the time in the draft

  32. warrenmoon says: May 2, 2012 8:04 AM

    I don’t understand why Irvin was invited to the draft then? Why was he there if he was expected to be a second rounder or lower? The same thing goes with Brandon Weeden, he was definitely a 2nd day pick at least. The Brandon Weeden thing was mostly a political move by the Browns, but maybe teams feel pressured to get the guy they want early because he was invited by Goodell for a reason.

  33. laxcoach37 says: May 2, 2012 8:30 AM

    As a Fins Fan, I obviously don’t like the Jets, but I have watched Coples for years, both Games and Practices. He is going to be a dominant player. He needs some Coaching at the Pro level. He has the skills and frame. The Jets had a good Draft. Like all players chosen comes risk. I do think the type of players they took have wider margins for boom/ bust, but make no mistake about Coples. I read in one of the above posts about Maybin. He was a fluke last year. Right place at the right time. He is an underperformer and always will be. The Bills are not that stupid, they parted ways for a reason. Finding a Gem in the Draft is not easy. Converting a cast-off to a starter is even tougher.

  34. pisano says: May 2, 2012 8:40 AM

    Rex needs to think about telling the truth for once in his life, it would be a nice change.

  35. jcjets says: May 2, 2012 9:18 AM

    I don’t know if the jets wanted Irvin, but it seems to me that the pick was a pretty big surprise to everyone.

    Isn’t it also possible the seahawks are looking to make their pick look better by saying that another team (the jets) were going to take him with the next pick?

  36. veretax says: May 2, 2012 9:38 AM

    The dirty secret here, is that I think the Jets didn’t expect the guy they picked to be there at that pick. Just because they had Irvin as 3rd best on their board, doesn’t mean he’s slotted with the grade of their 3rd pick after all. We should bear that in mind.

  37. brooklynniner19 says: May 2, 2012 10:46 AM

    Jets have no chance against my 49ers sept 30th week 4. Moss and Vernon are going to go H,A.M on Revis! Then that will open the gates for crabtree n Jenkins to get off, as well as Frank Gore n Lamichael James at RB!

  38. kennypowersays says: May 2, 2012 11:04 AM

    Coples is the second coming of Vernon Gholston.

  39. chadmurdigan says: May 2, 2012 11:18 AM

    to lend any serious weight…

    Ha, nice dig at Rex. You’re a terrific writer, Florio, and I sure get some laughs from your stuff each day. Thanks!

  40. pastabelly says: May 2, 2012 11:32 AM

    Why bother giving Irvin “blackboard material” considering the two teams are playing this year? Rex should just keep his mouth shut once in a while.

  41. pastabelly says: May 2, 2012 11:35 AM

    offthelows says:
    May 2, 2012 4:16 AM
    someday we may learn the truth though depending how Irvin or Coples do we may not care. The Syracuse DE, Chandler Jones, was thought to be a second rounder but word leaked he was screaming up boards and suddenly all the draft experts started slotting him mid to late 1st round.
    ===============================
    Your problem is that Bill Belichick doesn’t pay attention to “screaming up draft boards”. They take players where they have them graded out. If they thought the value wasn’t there at #21, they wouldn’t have traded up.

  42. jackericsson says: May 2, 2012 12:04 PM

    Rex continues to put his foot in his mouth. Well, I guess that’s better than someone else’s foot in his mouth.

  43. rexryansfork says: May 2, 2012 2:58 PM

    rexryanbigmouth says:
    May 2, 2012 1:23 AM
    Maybin and Coples are going to drill Brady into the turf. We are gonna blitz on 50% of our snaps. It’s gonna be a war on quarterbacks for gang green his year!

    Mario Williams and Mark Anderson > Aaron Maybin and Quinton Couples.

    C’mon man.

  44. liddogg33 says: May 2, 2012 8:49 PM

    What a fat tub of GOOOOO!!!!! NOBODY CARES NOR BELIEVES THE WORDS COMING OUT OF YOUR DOUGHNUT EATING TRAP!!! YOUR A FOOT LICKING PIZZA STUFFING PIECE OF TRASH!!!!! Rex you need to start trying to rehibilitate your locker room instead of getting involved in denying the truths reported about you.. I cant wait to watch your fat butt try and convince Mr. I Play When I Wanna Coples to give a hundred percent all the while why watching you stuff your face!!! Your a complete joke Rex and you better keep one eye open for teams with need at D coordinator because soon very soon The Jets are going to get fed up with your OBVIOUS BS!!!!

  45. nyjalleffingday says: May 3, 2012 3:09 PM

    @rexryansfork

    NYJ O-Line > BUF O-Line

    Balances out, no?

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