Comments on: Teams routinely ignore the rules regarding undrafted players

By: go9ers

go9ers — Tue, 01 May 2012 20:45:36 +0000

The 49ers lost a 5th round draft pick for tampering with Lance Briggs of the Bears. These accusations are for breaking a similar rule, and deserve similar punishment.

By: purplepridehasadownside

purplepridehasadownside — Tue, 01 May 2012 19:51:18 +0000

That is IT, enough of this flagrant abuse of power by the Vikings. Punishment: Move to L.A. in 2013

By: ktgooch

ktgooch — Tue, 01 May 2012 18:57:18 +0000

I guess the Chargers championships will have * too!

By: chazzmichaelmichaels

chazzmichaelmichaels — Tue, 01 May 2012 17:35:21 +0000

Moment of appreciation… At least we aren’t reading stories about where Brett Favre will play next.

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Tue, 01 May 2012 17:19:10 +0000

johnnyjagfan says:
May 1, 2012 11:35 AM
I’m certain Jacksonville doesn’t break this rule since we draft so many guys that would be on the FA market after the draft ends.

===============================

This is funny, I don’t care what team your a fan of……..

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Tue, 01 May 2012 17:12:53 +0000

Verbal pre-offer doesn’t seem to be binding nor a violation. If the offer is in writing and expired before the draft ended, then I can see a problem, without a rule change.

Change the rule……..It would make the last round much more interesting.

By: theytukrjobs

theytukrjobs — Tue, 01 May 2012 17:03:43 +0000

Is it against the rules to verbally throw numbers around with these players? Teams are permitted to talk to the players and work them out and interview them.

Without an NFL response to this I’m inclined to believe that rules aren’t technically being broken by making verbal offers. Plus I’m not sure what advantage there is because agents prefer if their player is drafted so there isn’t an incentive to accepting an offer before the draft, thus lowering your clients chances of being drafted.

To me an agent/player should always say “the only way to make sure you get me is to draft me before anyone else does”

By: voxnovo

voxnovo — Tue, 01 May 2012 16:55:14 +0000

Perhaps purpose of rule is to avoid situations such as the following:

Team A drafts prospect in 7th round, but its contract offer, though consistent with league-wide practice for a 7th-rd. pick, is less lucrative than the offer another team made to sign the player as a UDFA in the event he went undrafted.

Result: Prospects resents the team that drafted him and, after signing, puts forth less than a full effort to make that team.

Prospect figures another team, perhaps the one that tendered its offer during the draft, will give him a better deal after his first team cuts him.

By: xxwhodatxx

xxwhodatxx — Tue, 01 May 2012 16:02:44 +0000

“it makes those situations in which the league takes action seem more arbitrary and less fair.”

—
Ya think?

By: whodeydaytonchapter

whodeydaytonchapter — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:54:25 +0000

Roger should snag next years first round pick. It’s overboard, but it would send a message to all teams to follow the rules.

By: trollhammer20

trollhammer20 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:39:16 +0000

rexryanschoolofpodiatry says:May 1, 2012 11:01 AM

Who cares….these guys are nothing more than training camp bodies….
____________________________

Victor Cruz and Doug Baldwin say “hi”.

By: johnnyjagfan

johnnyjagfan — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:35:22 +0000

I’m certain Jacksonville doesn’t break this rule since we draft so many guys that would be on the FA market after the draft ends.

By: geauxjay

geauxjay — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:35:03 +0000

The NFL is closer to real life than most people know or want to admit.

__________________________________

Not really. The Saints got busted for “speeding” and got sent to jail. And then when they asked why nobody else even got pulled over, the cop said “nobody else was speeding.” And then the next day they asked the same thing the cop said “everybody’s speeding but we can’t prove it” even though he has a radar gun in his hand.

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:35:00 +0000

Why doesn’t the league expand the draft by another round or 2? This would at least cut down on some of the ‘illegal’ offers being made to the more attractive Free Agents.

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:33:38 +0000

This is worse than Bounty Gate because it affects competitive balance! Negotiating with picks such as Mr. Irrelevant is tantamount to stealing an additional 7th rd pick. If I tell a potential pick that I’m not gonna draft you because I’m gonna you anyway as a UFA, why would I waste a 7th rd pick on him? This is what is happening!

By: buddybowl69

buddybowl69 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:29:59 +0000

Teams routinely ignore the rules regarding undrafted players?

Then take away a 1st round draft pick from the Redskins & Cowboys, and give them to the Giants courtesy of Mora. This policy would be for any team caught violating this rule, or better yet, for any infraction.

By: geauxjay

geauxjay — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:22:06 +0000

Maybe the NFL can collect 5000 pages of evidence on this, punish one team, and then refuse to share the evidence with ANYONE.

By: randolph32

randolph32 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:15:36 +0000

Stupid rule, get rid of it…Here’s what could happen if they did, GBay has offered a contract after the draft, the Bears call the agent and he tells them the player is going to sign with the Pack…the Bears draft him in the 7th round, good for the player!

By: nebster21

nebster21 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:07:47 +0000

Basically if a team pisses of Goodell than he will enforce the penalty. Otherwise Goodell looks the other way. Redskins, Cowboys, Patriots, and Saints seem to know that. I think penalties should decided by a group. Much like a jury. Of course than Goodell would not have as much power and he would bankrupt the NFL or atleast try to.

By: skolvikesskol

skolvikesskol — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:06:21 +0000

In other news. DS Ping is out of the nfl agent business and back to pig farming. One client was quoted as saying “it weird, he said there was a lot of interest in me, then suddenly the phone stopped ringing”.

By: saintsfan82

saintsfan82 — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:01:58 +0000

If the saints were mentioned as one of the teams, their would be 100 posts from people saying that we’re cheaters and classless . It’s not the saints,so it’s no harm no foul , right?

By: rexryanschoolofpodiatry

rexryanschoolofpodiatry — Tue, 01 May 2012 15:01:30 +0000

Who cares….these guys are nothing more than training camp bodies….

By: godofwine330

godofwine330 — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:56:55 +0000

I would totally expect a lawyer to take the stand you are taking Florio. “But there are rules…” lol

I agree. Enforce it or change it.

By: rufustfireflyjr

rufustfireflyjr — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:55:41 +0000

Since enforcing the rule is obviously impossible, and it doesn’t serve any discernable purpose, they should just get rid of it.

By: chipwrecked

chipwrecked — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:53:53 +0000

Another thing that I thought was odd/uncomfortable was the Steelers “negotiating” terms with the OSU tackle Adams that would allow him to get back on their draft board. Did that allow them an unfair advantage over other teams? IDK… but something didnt seem right about it.

By: zn0rseman

zn0rseman — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:51:24 +0000

Uhhh… if you watch the video you can clearly hear at least a dozen teams being mentioned as having made offers… all before the draft ended.

So how come you single out the Vikings in your article? That doesn’t seem like a fair representation of the facts at all.

By: awhite46

awhite46 — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:49:35 +0000

Yawn. No harm, no foul.

They can’t sign until after the draft and nothing matters until you sign on the dotted line.

By: geauxjay

geauxjay — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:47:43 +0000

How many draft picks will the Saints lose for this?

By: geemoney713

geemoney713 — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:45:06 +0000

To all those NFL teams out there, ***REMEMBER*** we will not punish you for breaking rules, but we will, on the other hand punish you for breaking non-rules.

By: woodyg

woodyg — Tue, 01 May 2012 14:39:27 +0000

Sorry, but, the whole world is littered with rules & regulations that people & entities don’t usually abide by. Most of them are designed only to keep the populations from veering too far from the required norm. —– I.E. —- I drove to work today going 65 mph in a 55 mph zone. If the law were changed to 65 mph to support my 65 mph habit, I would go even faster.

The NFL is closer to real life than most people know or want to admit.