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Vikings say Browns weren’t only team after Trent Richardson

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We’ve raised some questions in the last couple of days about whether the Browns really needed to give three draft picks to the Vikings in order to move up from fourth overall to third overall and draft running back Trent Richardson. Browns President Mike Holmgren says the Browns had to do it, but if the Buccaneers weren’t seriously interested in trading up for Richardson, the reality is that the Browns might have been able to get him by staying put and keeping those three picks they gave the Vikings.

But Vikings General Manager Rick Spielman told the Pioneer Press that if the Vikings didn’t trade down with the Browns, they might have traded down with some other team that wanted Richardson.

“We did have offers on the table, I can tell you that. I’m not going to tell you who or what. But I will say Cleveland did the right thing,” Spielman said. “We definitely would have looked at some of the other options.”

Spielman probably wouldn’t say so if the reality is that he fleeced the Browns, getting their fourth-, fifth- and seventh-round picks when he would have stayed put and drafted Matt Kalil third overall if the Browns hadn’t moved up. But he is saying he’s satisfied with the move.

“I think both teams benefited from that trade. Cleveland got a very unique running back, and it’s very important for their offense – and I think we were able to accomplish what we wanted.”

What we know for sure is that the Vikings got a great deal: They got three extra picks, and then they got the player they would have drafted if they had stayed at No. 3 in Kalil.

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  1. coonsqualler says: May 1, 2012 7:06 AM

    Browns got the best playmaker in the draft. Period!!

    Why do we keep beating a dead horse about what they had to do to secure that?

    Just Sayin’…Go Brownies!!

  2. browns627 says: May 1, 2012 7:14 AM

    ok oprah-browns fans stop with the rumors! lets move on. there’s no gossiping in football. be men and talk about the game. go browns!

  3. donjuan1906 says: May 1, 2012 7:21 AM

    This is comical! As a Cleveland Browns fan, the ridicule this team receives is cynical at best.

    The Redskins give up three first round picks (2012, 2013, 2014) and a second round pick.

    The Browns gave up a 4th, 6th and 7th and still had a 4th round pick, two 6th round picks and two 7th round picks when it was all said and done?

    But the Browns are the ones that got snowed, snubbed, played, pimped – whatever is your pleasure for saying the Browns gave up too much to get Richardson – is a joke!?

    I will keep saying it, the move was smart. There are two ways to look at it, if the Rams wouldn’t have drafted Kalil – the Browns would have looked brilliant, but due to the Vikings getting “their” guy – they look smart and the Browns were stupid?

    The Browns made an aggressive move to secure a blue chip player in a position of need and they deserve props for getting it done, by any means necessary and still acquired 11 draft picks and 14 college free agents.

  4. tsr3000 says: May 1, 2012 7:29 AM

    I know this website was designed to hate on the Browns but for once they did the right thing.

    In a couple of years the Browns will look lucky for “losing” the RG3 sweepstakes and smart for fighting for T Rich aka The Kraken.

    Release the kraken!!!

  5. textexington says: May 1, 2012 7:32 AM

    Get ready for another 3-13 season Lavender Larry fans.Packers > Viqueefs.LOLZ.

  6. jenniferxxx says: May 1, 2012 7:33 AM

    Still … it’s kind of funny when the biggest trading suckers in the NFL put one over on a team.

  7. noozehound says: May 1, 2012 7:33 AM

    who cares, the draft is over, both teams got who the want.

  8. theytukrjobs says: May 1, 2012 7:40 AM

    The Browns had no way of truly knowing if the Vikings would have been willing to assume the risk involved with dropping further than #4. The only way to be certain of getting their guy was to trade with the Vikes. According to most draft value charts, the Browns got off cheap historically for moving up one spot.

    Think of it this way. What if the Vikings didn’t have AP and actually wanted Richardson. Then what would the price have been? Typically you can’t move up in a round without giving up a pick from the next round.

  9. farrisboy says: May 1, 2012 7:41 AM

    First I am not a Browns fan or a Vikings fan and I do read your page and find it entertaining. That said, if I could buy you for what you know and sell you for what you claim to know- I would own the internet.

  10. shian11 says: May 1, 2012 7:44 AM

    Browns moved to #3 and gave up a few late picks. Why do cleveland fans keep harping on this. Redskins gave up a lot more to move to #2

  11. gojags says: May 1, 2012 7:45 AM

    “Cleveland did the right thing,” – Yeah they did the right thing because they surrendered us some draft picks for nothing.

    Trent Richardson is a beast. Physical runner in the physical division. He will be a great for the next five years. I wouldn’t blame Cleveland on what they spent to get their man. They only gave later round picks. With the formidable offensive line and a great running back it would be fun to watch the Browns play against the physical likes of the Ravens and Steelers in the division.

  12. mnjoemama says: May 1, 2012 7:48 AM

    Don’t forget vikes drafted all sec Javair wright with browns pick .13 catches for 261yds td ,against Shermanators aggies! Skol baby

  13. seddonrt says: May 1, 2012 7:50 AM

    Why do people keep throwing around “3 draft picks” like the Browns are the Raiders mortgaging their future? The reality is they gave up 3 late round picks in a draft where they had 13 picks. They still chose a guy in every round, plus 3 extras. The picks were irrelevant (kinda like the team for the last decade).

  14. Gordon says: May 1, 2012 7:50 AM

    Spielman is just trying to make the Browns feel better so he doesn’t piss off a future trade partner.

    He fleeced the Browns. About time the Vikings did something right.

  15. skon300 says: May 1, 2012 7:51 AM

    It’s a shame given such a good talent that probably wont reach his potential given where he’s playing

  16. fsubrowns9510 says: May 1, 2012 7:53 AM

    No really? Media just likes drilling the Browns for everything they can. Yea they suck and have for years but they made a great move and didn’t give up alot to ensure they got their guy.

    Big effin whoop. They lost 3 of their 13 draft picks and still walked out of the draft with #3, #22, #37, a 3rd, 2 4ths, a 5th, 2 6ths, and 2 7ths.

  17. reppster says: May 1, 2012 7:55 AM

    Hope he turns out to be worth it.

  18. schweddyjabaals says: May 1, 2012 7:55 AM

    And the Browns got the player they wanted & still had 10 picks. They also got a 4th back. Where is PFT going with this??

  19. skoobyfl says: May 1, 2012 7:57 AM

    Fish.

  20. citiciti says: May 1, 2012 8:03 AM

    4th,5th,7th=Larry,Curley and MO who cares about them, Trent Richardson was the best player in the draft.

  21. soforizo says: May 1, 2012 8:06 AM

    Let’s be realistic here… how many Pro Bowlers or good starters did people really expect the Browns to draft with their 4th, 5th and 7th pick?

    They’ve struggled finding decent starters with their 1st picks dating back to 1999 and the media is causing a raucous over their 4th, 5th and 7th pick.

  22. knowerofallthings says: May 1, 2012 8:09 AM

    Vikings did a sales job on Believeland and scared them into giving up all those picks when they didn’t need to. To make matters worse, they use their 2nd pick on the oldest player ever drafted in the first round. Yeah, they’re still the Browns.

  23. terraj35 says: May 1, 2012 8:10 AM

    If they dont mention who the team was then this article is a waste of time..and so were spieldman’s comments

  24. slowclyde86 says: May 1, 2012 8:12 AM

    What is the mystery here? Tampa was the other team. Once trich was picked they moved down, then traded back into round one later for a RB. People like skoobyl would have ripped the browns had Tampa traded in front of Cleveland. It’s always easy from the cheap seats to throw stones.

    So far heckert has been rock solid for a downtrodden franchise. We shall see about this draft. If weeden can play, it’s a great draft. If not, then a major setback. It’s that simple.

  25. devikesfan says: May 1, 2012 8:16 AM

    It was a good trade for both teams.
    Minnesota got their man and picked up extra picks, while the Browns were able to get their man without having to give up too much.
    I hope both Richardson and Kalil have long, productive careers with their respective teams.

  26. vysethelegend says: May 1, 2012 8:20 AM

    I honestly don’t see why people have questioned the Browns for this move. I’m sure there were plenty of RB needy teams ready to move up for Richardson: Tampa Bay, St. Louis, and Miami definitely had the ability to go after him. It wouldn’t surprise me to hear teams midway through the round like the Cardinals or Jets try to pull a big deal in an area of need.

    The Browns had plenty of extra picks, and giving up 3 late rounders isn’t too much of a problem when you are setting up your ground game for the next 10 years.

  27. conormacleod says: May 1, 2012 8:21 AM

    Both The Vikings and Browns are happy with the trade. Pretty sure that’s all that matters.

  28. savocabol1 says: May 1, 2012 8:27 AM

    shian11 says:
    May 1, 2012 7:44 AM
    Browns moved to #3 and gave up a few late picks. Why do cleveland fans keep harping on this. Redskins gave up a lot more to move to #2

    __________________________________

    Cleveland fans aren’t harping on this. The national media is. Check out the Cleveland local newspapers. You won’t find one article about it.

  29. daffy87 says: May 1, 2012 8:28 AM

    Grossi had this one right. Odd that the Redskins give up three 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick for RG3 and are praised for it. The Browns give up some low end picks to ensure they get Trent Richardson and everyone wants to point and laugh.

  30. hugejazz says: May 1, 2012 8:28 AM

    Why all the interest in this after, say, 3 days ago?

    It could be the novelty of the Vikings actually coming out on top of a draft manuver….for once.

    The Vikings got a sweet deal. The Browns got the guy they wanted.

    Move on folks. Nothing more to see here.

    Except of course that the Vikings have an actual, you know, plan.

  31. godofwine330 says: May 1, 2012 8:36 AM

    I still say the Browns got fleeced. They gave up too much. If it was just a fifth, or a fifth and a seventh I would have been cool. The fourth was too much. I know it. The whole world knows it. As much as they were lauded for fleecing the Falcons, they showed that they have absolutely no nerve when it comes to the draft and position which will come to haunt us in the future. As soon as it gets out and is widely known who we want someone will look to try to do this every year.

    The truth is, the public failure to secure RGIII probably caused them to lose their nerve, and now that they have it means we are now known to have as much nerve as Barney Fife.

  32. skinstidecubsfan says: May 1, 2012 8:37 AM

    tsr3000 says:May 1, 2012 7:29 AM

    I know this website was designed to hate on the Browns but for once they did the right thing.

    In a couple of years the Browns will look lucky for “losing” the RG3 sweepstakes and smart for fighting for T Rich aka The Kraken.

    Release the kraken!!!
    __________________________________
    in a couple of years and 20 qbs later! i love trent richardson,but the browns will always be the league’s biggest joke and where players get sent or drafted too for being punished or mediocore! lol

  33. erikinhell says: May 1, 2012 8:40 AM

    I don’t know why people are complaining. This trade for Richardson was so much better than the trade by botch davis to pick up Kellen Winslow Jr.

    Either the Vikings were greedy or they had a trade partner in another team. The Browns still got the guy they wanted, and it didn’t cost them 3 firsts and a 2nd.

  34. macbull says: May 1, 2012 8:40 AM

    Sports media just can’t get over the facts…the Browns did not simply gift wrap extra draft picks and hand them to the Vikings because they like the Vikings…

    The Browns wanted Trent Richardson and they had to give some extra to get him.

    Try as they might, the sport media can’t spin the Trent Richardson pick into something negative.

    Nice try…

  35. jackblackshairyback says: May 1, 2012 8:54 AM

    Yea the Vikings got three extra picks.

    That is only three players if all 3 of those guys actually make the team. Wait until the 53 man rosters are set, then see.

  36. taintedlombardis says: May 1, 2012 8:58 AM

    Trent Richardson is not even close to the best player in this draft. Jim Brown is right about that…ordinary.

    And donjuan1906 is an idiot….if the Redskins gave up three firsts, the Browns also gave up a first…so much internet idiocy….so little time.

  37. stew48 says: May 1, 2012 9:07 AM

    Question: If the Steelers had owned the third pick of the draft, who would they have drafted?

    Answer: The same guy they drafted later.

    Remember Archie Griffin? Two Heismans, a wonderful man, but just another good to very good running back in the NFL.

    How sweet of Spielman to back the whiner. What did you expect?

  38. thepvyharvin says: May 1, 2012 9:09 AM

    textexington says:
    May 1, 2012 7:32 AM
    Get ready for another 3-13 season Lavender Larry fans.Packers > Viqueefs.LOLZ.
    ====================================
    Listen texturd,,,I’m gonna burst your bubble. I know many people who look at PFT for info and a good laugh. But Lavender Larry and Viqueefs is 2nd grade. Go practice mr. irrelevant

  39. canonroad says: May 1, 2012 9:13 AM

    It really is a 12 month news cycle with the NFL- huh?

    This deal worked out for both teams. If the Vikes bluffed the interest from the other teams- good for them. The Browns still got their guy, so good for them as well. No loss for either squad.

    As a team with an All-Pro like AP- be cautious Browns fans- although I think Richardson will be a beast- all it takes is one awkward tackle, fall or helmet to the knee to sink your stomach. Wish you guys the best and I know you got a QB later in the round- but 1 RB isn’t going to get it done in the league anymore.

  40. waccoforflacco says: May 1, 2012 9:18 AM

    Jim Brown is right on,,,,Richardson is grossly over rated. The Vikings pulled off the ultimate bank heist.

  41. digitaldonnie says: May 1, 2012 9:19 AM

    I love the trolls on this site. Vikes gm just said he had other offers, yet ppl still want to believe they pulled a fast one. You ppl are IGNORANT. Browns gave up three picks that at best will be practice squad players for the assurance of the BEST player in this draft. And to boot, at least two of the three picks were ones they got in deals with ATL and DEN. Keep telling yourself that the Browns got played, better yet…keep posting about it. Makes you look super smart. Learn football ASHMFP.

  42. mjkelly77 says: May 1, 2012 9:21 AM

    The Vikings just don’t want the Browns to feel buyer’s remorse. Make them look bad and you lose a future trading partner. Browns did not need to move up and squandered a lot of future talent.

  43. mjkelly77 says: May 1, 2012 9:24 AM

    digitaldonnie says:May 1, 2012 9:19 AM

    I love the trolls on this site. Vikes gm just said he had other offers, yet ppl still want to believe they pulled a fast one. You ppl are IGNORANT. … Keep telling yourself that the Browns got played, better yet … keep posting about it. Makes you look super smart. Learn football ASHMFP.
    ________________

    I see you’ve never negotiated before. Kepp telling yourself the Browns didn’t get snookered. It will make you feel better.

  44. onereasonableman says: May 1, 2012 9:28 AM

    I’m a Browns fan and VERY happy they moved up to get their guy. They were criticized for not giving up the future to get RGIII. Now they’re criticized for giving away a few late picks to get a stud running back who will make the offense better immediately. They would be getting crucified today if they hadn’t have given up those picks and Tampa leap frogged them to get T-Rich. It was a fine pick.

    I do question some of the later picks we took, but time will tell.

    It is interesting to me that Washington took another QB in the draft. I don’t buy the value pick for the future. Seems to me if you were completely sold on RGIII, you would have focused on the rest of the team and not bothing with another young QB. Who knows how all this will shake out, but I think that Washington gave a king’s ransom for RGIII and now are in a very tough position.

    The Browns gave next to nothing to move up and still have options for the future. I’ll take that.

  45. rmavs says: May 1, 2012 9:43 AM

    Big deal. The draft is over. Doesn’t matter who had interest now.

  46. sguy2130 says: May 1, 2012 10:00 AM

    mjkelly77 says:
    May 1, 2012 9:24 AM

    I see you’ve never negotiated before. Kepp telling yourself the Browns didn’t get snookered. It will make you feel better.
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    I see you fail to get the big picture and apparently think you know more than people directly connected to the interworkings of the deal. Keep trolling, or whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself.

  47. rockthered1286 says: May 1, 2012 10:08 AM

    The trade is what it is. We can go through and assess the Pats move to jump up and draft Hightower, Ravens jump up to draft Pierce, so on and so forth. Talk about steal in a year if those 3 picks the Vikes got end up being of value, or if Richardson ends up a bust. Personally, I think you look at the Cincy, Baltimore and Pitt D and realize you’re better off throwing than running and with McCoy or Weeden back there with no wideouts worth a crap to throw to, teams will focus on Richardson. Not saying he’s a bad RB at all, but for Cleveland fans expecting him to be a 1,500 yd, 15 TD guy? Not in this division. At least not anytime soon.

  48. ballboy48 says: May 1, 2012 10:12 AM

    skinstidecubsfan says:
    May 1, 2012 8:37 AM
    tsr3000 says:May 1, 2012 7:29 AM

    I know this website was designed to hate on the Browns but for once they did the right thing.

    In a couple of years the Browns will look lucky for “losing” the RG3 sweepstakes and smart for fighting for T Rich aka The Kraken.

    Release the kraken!!!
    __________________________________
    in a couple of years and 20 qbs later! i love trent richardson,but the browns will always be the league’s biggest joke and where players get sent or drafted too for being punished or mediocore! lol
    ——————————————————————-

    And this comes from a skins and cubs fan! Man I wish people knew what they were talking about before they spoke! Both teams got what they needed, and that’s all that matters!

  49. hitdog042 says: May 1, 2012 10:21 AM

    Mayock said it best. The Browns play in a passing division. A passing league. And traded up for a RB. A great one. But a RB isn’t going to pass the other 3 playoff teams in the North.

    This was a pressure move to take a playmaker for the fans. In reality the Browns would have better off with Blackmon, then Doug Martin, then Weeden in rd 2. They also should have been all over Marvin Jones (asleep at the wheel).

    If Weeden wasn’t there they could use McCoy one more year.

    Rich is awesome. No argument. He’s not what the Browns needed though. The Browns need to realize 2012 isn’t their year. 2013 could have been set up much better tho w the players above.

  50. khuxford says: May 1, 2012 10:22 AM

    I love the idiots suggesting that PFT has a bias against the Browns and are trying to make something out of nothing. Did no one notice that the Vikings GM gave the statement to a completely unrelated member of the media? This is being discussed at plenty of other places.

    PFT has a “report what gets hits/don’t be the only site not discussing a topic” bias, if anything. As a Jets fan, I don’t enjoy every article about who and how a Jets player gets booed or that Tebow is getting treated like a better QB than Sanchez (whether true or not). Heck, I don’t even like that Tebow is on the Jets. But you don’t see me blaming PFT for covering the stories.

  51. jackblackshairyback says: May 1, 2012 10:42 AM

    As a team with an All-Pro like AP- be cautious Browns fans- although I think Richardson will be a beast- all it takes is one awkward tackle, fall or helmet to the knee to sink your stomach. Wish you guys the best and I know you got a QB later in the round- but 1 RB isn’t going to get it done in the league anymore.

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    That’s funny, I always thought anyone could get a serious knee injury, not just running backs. I guess Tom Brady and Carson Palmer were faking it.

  52. periferal26 says: May 1, 2012 10:42 AM

    The reason why the Browns are getting crap for their deal, but the Redskins aren’t is because if the Redskins don’t make their deal, there is ZERO chance they get RGIII. However if the Browns don’t make their deal there was still a good chance they could have gotten Richardson at #4 thus making it look like they may have given up something for nothing.

    That said, the Browns essentially gave up nothing to get a guy they both needed and coveted. If TRich busts, which I don’t see happening, they really gave up very little.

    However if RGIII busts…The Redskins will be set back years.

  53. jackblackshairyback says: May 1, 2012 10:45 AM

    khuxford says:May 1, 2012 10:22 AM

    I love the idiots suggesting that PFT has a bias against the Browns and are trying to make something out of nothing. Did no one notice that the Vikings GM gave the statement to a completely unrelated member of the media
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    Yea because there’s no such thing as the internet that can disperse information at the speed of light….oh wait, sorry…

  54. ronin36 says: May 1, 2012 10:51 AM

    To say it in as briefly as possible:

    Vikings: There were other teams very interested in trading up.

    Analysis: Of course the Vikings would say this. To say the opposite would destroy any chance of fooling people the next time.

  55. jackblackshairyback says: May 1, 2012 10:55 AM

    periferal26 says:May 1, 2012 10:42 AM

    The reason why the Browns are getting crap for their deal, but the Redskins aren’t is because if the Redskins don’t make their deal, there is ZERO chance they get RGIII. However if the Browns don’t make their deal there was still a good chance they could have gotten Richardson at #4 thus making it look like they may have given up something for nothing.

    That said, the Browns essentially gave up nothing to get a guy they both needed and coveted. If TRich busts, which I don’t see happening, they really gave up very little.

    However if RGIII busts…The Redskins will be set back years.
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    Exactly. The Redskins now dont have a first round pick until 2015. The Browns’ gamble was much much less, three picks that you optimistically could say 2 of them would make the 53 man roster. They went into the draft with 13 picks, gave up 3, and got one more later in an unrelated trade. That’s still more than double what the Raiders had, for example.

  56. bensstinkyfingers says: May 1, 2012 11:02 AM

    All the talk won’t matter when T-Rich is running through all your teams defenses, scoring TD’s, leading the league in rushing. When the Red Head Rifleman (Weeden) picks apart the secondarys, the browns will be back to prominence and a perennial playoff team for years to come, or when Weeden reaches retirement in 5 years LOL! GO Browns!!

  57. realdealsteel says: May 1, 2012 11:06 AM

    Well, when are the Browns going to be smart and give their QB’s a real chance by adding some real wide receivers??

    Brady Quinn didn’t get a fair chance; no wide receivers. Mccoy didn’t get a fiar chance;no wide receivers and no running game. Now it’s Weeden and he has no real wide receivers either.

    Browns are just chewing up QB’s and spitting them out like a lawn mower. Browns continue to half ass do things and wonder why everybody redicules them. Amazing.

  58. realitypolice says: May 1, 2012 11:29 AM

    The Browns had a ton of picks.

    It’s not like they gave up half of their draft.

    It’s easy to say in hindsight that they gave up too much, but how were they to know if anyone else was making offers or not?

    Criticizing a team for picking a guy you don’t think is that good or was too much of a reach is one thing, criticizing them for not knowing something it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to know is another.

  59. bensstinkyfingers says: May 1, 2012 11:32 AM

    More great nicknames for B Weeden – Agent Orange, Redwood, Red Rocker, Ginger Bullet, Fireball, Mount St. Weeden, El Gingero, Copperhead, Blazer, Big Red, Rojo Rocket, Towering Inferno, Smokin Weeds, WeedEater, Firebush, Red Rover, B Dub, Wildfire Feel free to add-

  60. JaminJake says: May 1, 2012 11:43 AM

    Where is the Steeler Nation guy? I could use a lengthy, pedantic bit of humor

  61. jbcommonsense says: May 1, 2012 11:49 AM

    Big Redskin fan here. I think the Browns did the right thing securing a star RB and offensive anchor for a few late round picks.

  62. khuxford says: May 1, 2012 12:03 PM

    “jackblackshairyback says:
    May 1, 2012 10:45 AM
    khuxford says:May 1, 2012 10:22 AM

    I love the idiots suggesting that PFT has a bias against the Browns and are trying to make something out of nothing. Did no one notice that the Vikings GM gave the statement to a completely unrelated member of the media
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    Yea because there’s no such thing as the internet that can disperse information at the speed of light….oh wait, sorry…”

    Maybe you’d care to make your point in English?

    Mine was that PFT isn’t responsible for making this a story, as they’re not even the ones bringing up the topic or interviewing anyone about it.

    Now your turn…

  63. granadafan says: May 1, 2012 12:16 PM

    “tsr3000 says: May 1, 2012 7:29 AM
    I know this website was designed to hate on the Browns but for once they did the right thing. ”

    Hate on the Browns???? Bahahaha. I love how every fan thinks that PFT picks on their favorite . Hint: PFT picks on everyone and the deluded rose colored tinted fans cries that that big bully Florio is “hating on” their . You Brownies should be so lucky that anyone other than the Cleveland media even mentions the Browns. If it wasn’t for the draft no one outside of Ohio would even care about your loser team or your loser city.

  64. pmars64 says: May 1, 2012 12:19 PM

    In one sense, you can argue that, if the Vikings really did fleece the Browns, the Vikings look worse for this because who will trust these guys now when talking trade? And all they show for compromising their integrity is a 4th, 5th, & 7th? If I were GM and the Vikings really did screw the Browns, I know I wouldn’t be so quick to call Spielman or return his calls. In the end, the Vikings only hurt themselves if they did, indeed, fleece the Browns. You can’t burn bridges because you don’t know when you’ll need them. What if the Vikes need to move up next year and the Browns are the team they have to trade with? How likely would that trade happen? Or, if it did, how much would the Vikes have to give up to make amends to the Browns? Even if this is a ruthless business, if you get a rep for not being trustworthy, you’re done. In some sense, you could argue Spielman is doing damage control by saying what he’s saying now.

  65. lionsplayoffs says: May 1, 2012 12:20 PM

    The Richardson pick was good – it was the Weeden pick that nobody understands.

  66. muckfodell says: May 1, 2012 12:23 PM

    Although the trade value chart is somewhat outdated, the points the Browns gave up were 153. The compensation for moving from slot 4 to 3 is 400.

    The point is there was no fleecing. The Browns wanted to make sure…without a doubt…they got TRich.

    Now what the Skins gave up for RG Three-ones-and-a-two…THAT was a fleecing.

    And Holmgren and Heckert glady accept your apologies…

  67. wludford says: May 1, 2012 12:28 PM

    The Vikings picked Jarius Wright (WR), Blair Walsh (K), and Trevor Guyton (DL) with the 3 picks they got from the Browns.

    Worst case, none of them make the team and they gained (and lost) nothing. Best case they all become multi-year all-pros and HOF members. I think the most likely is at least 2 make the team, contribute, and 1-2 become starters. Walsh as the best kicker at the combine, could easily replace Ryan Longwell (38) at some point given his longer range- particualarly in kickoffs. Wright, with 4.3 speed, 38″ vertical (both better than Blackmon), 168 rec. for 3,000 yards and 24 tds at Arkansas, could easily become either a slot or deep-threat WR in the Vikings rotation.
    Guyton may also make the team initially to add depth to the defensive line, and depending on progress may compete with either Guion or Robison for the starting job.

    In any case, it’s a good chance the Vikings got an eventual starter out of the deal, maybe more.

  68. stew48 says: May 1, 2012 12:31 PM

    Anyone care to make a small (non-$) wager on who gains more yards in 2012, TR or the Browns or a second stringer in Kansas City?

    You folks supporting the trade just do not understand that neither Jim Brown, Gale Sayers or Barry Sanders could gain yards for the current Browns team. And, you expect miracles from a first year guy. Wow!

  69. bnn52 says: May 1, 2012 12:54 PM

    I have been a Browns fan all my life, but I am however very discriminatory on the way they handle things.

    Everyone who is hating on the trade up by the Browns are just plain idiots. Even if they were dupped into trading up, they had their mind set on the player they wanted and were going to do what need be to get that player. The Browns were issued 4 compensatory picks this year, all in the later rounds, and they gave up 3 late round picks to get one of the best all around players in this years draft class, still coming out on top with one extra pick in the late rounds, then got another one back later in the draft via trade.

    Now the Weeden pick was a stretch, and I do believe that he would have been there at 37, but a good pick that will be able to contribute right away.

    My biggest problem with the draft was the fact that Holmgren and the front office decided not to address the lack of depth/existance of the WR Core. At pcik #37 you had Alshton Jeffrey and Stephen Hill sitting there on a Golden Platter for you, and you go safe and take an O Lineman that you could have possibly snagged later in the draft and if not, then you move on to the next best available. Schwartz is not a Khalil or a Reiff, so why use the high pick on him and not address the skill position you need.

    And my last little bitch and moan session about the Browns Draft, why in the hell did they take 2 Dtackles? They have a solid core in Rubin and Taylor and decent fill ins with Paxton and Schaeffering. Grab another Lineman or WR with those picks, or grab a DB where we desperately need depth.

  70. geezohman says: May 1, 2012 1:20 PM

    i like to see how the rest of the sports media see it.

    ESPN
    … look there… before the draft the Browns ranked 30th. The media voted… Browns AFTER the draft ranked… 30th ! lol

    oh… you mean no team in the NFL took a RB in the first round since 2006 Reggie Bush?

    oh.. Tampa was the worst defense ranked team 2011 and first pick was a Safety?

    I think the Vikings are ‘back-pedaling’.

    Now what do u think of the Eagles picks? Oh my.. Browns play Eagles, and Ravens and Giants.. I would guess another 4 win season… do i hear 5?

  71. seahawksbmx says: May 1, 2012 2:04 PM

    Vikes had Holmey by the stones and he did what he had to do to get the guy he wanted. Still, after the Hutchinson poison pill debacle from a half a dozen years ago and now this, he’s gotta just hate that team that will seemingly never cease in tormenting him.

  72. jollyjoker2 says: May 1, 2012 11:13 PM

    I think the browns fleeced the vikings. Adrian P coming off a major injury. Yes, the vikes needed a left tackle but I think they could have bundled the 4th,5th and whatever into a 1st round pick somewhere. I don’t like when teams stock pile later draft rounds. Those are real crapshoots. I would rather have 2 good stars than 10 to be cut after training camp.

  73. birddawgs42 says: May 2, 2012 12:24 AM

    The Vikings got low round picks, we got the third best player in the draft, good old fashion horse trading. Browns did good here. You vike fans want to trash us when you were worse then us and you had your QB and AP and won three games. Take care of your own mess before you laugh at others…

  74. dawglbfan says: May 2, 2012 2:07 AM

    Bucs tipped their hand by trading back into the first round to get a RB, that shows they were more than likely one of the teams bidding on the pick.

  75. 11jlacy says: May 2, 2012 10:00 AM

    The browns have a game changer now the sec in affect.

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