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Jabar Gaffney says he’s going to the Patriots

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When Jabar Gaffney was released by the Redskins, we predicted that he wouldn’t be out of work too long.

We also wondered if the Patriots might be interested in reuniting with a guy who made a big catch against the Ravens to help the team keep their 2007 run at an undefeated regular season alive. It might be a good week to play the lottery because it looks like we were on to something on both fronts.

Gaffney told Josina Anderson of ESPN that he will be signing a deal with the Patriots soon. Gaffney played for the Pats from 2006-2008, catching 85 passes for 1,059 yards and eight touchdowns. His production spiked after leaving New England, he has 187 catches over the last three years, but he was a reliable target for Tom Brady when he was in New England.

The Patriots have added Brandon Lloyd, Donte’ Stallworth and Anthony Gonzalez to a receiving group that already included Deion Branch, Chad Ochocinco and Julian Edelman. Wes Welker will also be back, whether he signs his franchise tender or a long-term deal, and that makes for a crowded depth chart. Gaffney likely moves ahead of some of the other veterans and his arrival might lead someone like Ochocinco to ask for a release so that he can find a place he’s likelier to see the field in 2012.

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  1. patsfiend says: May 2, 2012 4:53 PM

    … and the “shotgun” approach to receivers continues in New England.

  2. terripet says: May 2, 2012 4:54 PM

    pats get another bum

  3. cardiffgiant11 says: May 2, 2012 4:55 PM

    Taking credit for predicting this is like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow. Either way, lots of healthy competition in the WR department plus improvements on defense;should be a good season!

  4. rajbais says: May 2, 2012 4:57 PM

    Big mistake!!!!

    There are other place that need WR’s!!!

  5. trodriguez89 says: May 2, 2012 4:57 PM

    Bye bye ocho

  6. rollteal says: May 2, 2012 4:58 PM

    Ochochico is flabbergasted !!! Wth didn’t see this coming …

  7. jtchernak says: May 2, 2012 4:58 PM

    Yes I love this I am a patriots fan an I think toward the end of the year brady just didnt trust some of the guys to be there so this reliable man will be great if he makes it

  8. ancylostoma says: May 2, 2012 4:59 PM

    Ocho-Stinko is going to get cut

  9. daysend564 says: May 2, 2012 5:00 PM

    Nobody is suprised. They love their old average WRs.

  10. wfbbogota1975 says: May 2, 2012 5:01 PM

    Damn Dolphins!!! Why do they show no nuts to go out and get a sure thing. It drives me crazy!!!!!

  11. cdrion21 says: May 2, 2012 5:03 PM

    at least he will be able to keep number 10 now

  12. rc33 says: May 2, 2012 5:06 PM

    Too bad for Ocho, I think.
    Gaffney was a good 3rd/4th WR in N.E. who knew his role and Brady genuinely trusted him. To me, this signing affects Ocho the most. If he even makes it to camp, he sure as hell better know the playbook this time around.

  13. eigglesnosuperbowls says: May 2, 2012 5:08 PM

    This is just the old BB Tom Brady we are so great we can make a so so receiver good again syndrome! Its a tired act !

  14. skeebo80 says: May 2, 2012 5:09 PM

    See ya later Ocho

  15. apatsfanyo says: May 2, 2012 5:09 PM

    Looks like Bills getting the old band back together

  16. j0esixpack says: May 2, 2012 5:10 PM

    Damn – between Lloyd and Stallworth you have to figure the Patriots will have a healthy deep game.

    Welker – who doesn’t appear to be inclined to hold out in the regular season – will still likely catch about 100 short to mid range passes and scoot by defenders for extra yards.

    And now Gaffney joings Branch and Edelman as established all purpose WRs with Gonzalez still having great potential and Ochocinco having the incentive of his pride, as well as a paycheck to show he can produce.

    There’s not enough room for all – the best will make the team – but it’s looking like a pretty strong receiving corps for not a whole lot of long term money… and we haven’t even talked about the TEs Gronkowski and Hernandez and what they can do.

    With the additional help they’ve gotten on defense in the draft, the Patriots have quietly – and cheaply – been putting together a team that might have more depth than even the 16-0 team of 2007.

  17. mikebe1 says: May 2, 2012 5:10 PM

    Aaaaaannnnnnddddd that makes 10 starting recievers for the patriots.

  18. blacknole08 says: May 2, 2012 5:11 PM

    Tom Brady is gonna have a BIG year

  19. pawesl says: May 2, 2012 5:13 PM

    If Moss could somehow come back the band could get back together but that aint happening.

  20. randallflagg52 says: May 2, 2012 5:19 PM

    Who cares, look up mediorce in Webster’s and you’ll see a picture of Gaffney.

  21. romeisburningtfb says: May 2, 2012 5:19 PM

    We’re getting the band back together…

  22. rando74 says: May 2, 2012 5:20 PM

    Wow thats a lot of pretty decent receivers. Good thing the Pats dont have a running back and Edelman plays defense. They should all get some catches. The over under on Ocho No Show is 3. Ill take the under.

  23. patriots123456 says: May 2, 2012 5:24 PM

    Welcome back old friend, he played very well for the Patriots, knows the system well.

    Unlike Ochocinco, who just might be history.

  24. amaf21 says: May 2, 2012 5:34 PM

    Good for you Jabar. If you can rack up almost 1k yards from Grossman/Beck you should be good for about 2k from Brady.

  25. thebigcaptain2011 says: May 2, 2012 5:35 PM

    He should have signed with the LA Football Lakers

  26. truthfactory says: May 2, 2012 5:36 PM

    And all the analyst will continue to say that “Tom Brady does more with less….” Bulls*it. He still has Gronk and Hernandez plus a ridiculous o-line, plus only playing 4 teams with a winning record next season, plus all those WRs…. No excuse if they dont make it to the SB

  27. Patskrieg dot com says: May 2, 2012 5:39 PM

    I know what the stats say, but anyone who remembers Gaffney as an expendable 4th option with suspect hands is kidding themselves.

  28. capslockkey says: May 2, 2012 5:40 PM

    Crowed depth chart – yes. Young depth chart – no. Edelmen and Gonzalez are the only guys on that list not over 30.

  29. tombradyallday says: May 2, 2012 5:42 PM

    nothing is better than 12 or 12 receivers in camp battling to make the team. all about COMPETITION

  30. elmaxoh says: May 2, 2012 5:43 PM

    Ocho will not leave New England .. Bill wants to see more of him next season .

  31. footballfanman says: May 2, 2012 5:53 PM

    Redskins pick him up “He’s a bum, lol Failskins.”

    Patriots pick him up “Nice pickup, good receiver.”

  32. flash1283 says: May 2, 2012 5:54 PM

    eigglesnosuperbowls says:
    May 2, 2012 5:08 PM
    This is just the old BB Tom Brady we are so great we can make a so so receiver good again syndrome! Its a tired act !

     –

    randallflagg52 says:
    May 2, 2012 5:19 PM
    Who cares, look up mediorce in Webster’s and you’ll see a picture of Gaffney.

     –

    He had 86 rec for almost 1000 yards last year with Washington, playing I think with 2 different QB’s.

    How is that ” mediocre”?

  33. ijahru says: May 2, 2012 5:56 PM

    I predict Welker will get traded. It happened to Branch and Samuel when they were franchised. I think with the TEs emerging what Welker offers could be gotten from Gonzalez or Edelman for far less money. I know Welker has been awesome for the Patriots but why bust the salary cap for a possesion receiver in his 30s? Welker can still play but do you think he is worth Fitzgerald money? I say let him find a team that will pay him what he wants, it is the fair thing to do for him. I think a 1st round or a couple of 2nd round picks is good compensation.

  34. truetrue85 says: May 2, 2012 6:02 PM

    terripet says:
    May 2, 2012 4:54 PM
    pats get another bum
    —————————————————-

    Shows how much you know…

    Jabar Gaffney was one of Tom Brady’s most reliable receivers in his time in New England and was Brady’s favorite redzone target. In other words, Gaffney was Welker before Welker was a Patriot. Out of every offseason move, this one is my favorite.

  35. realitypolice says: May 2, 2012 6:04 PM

    It’s really not that big of an accomplishment to successfully predict that an ex-Patriot would return their after being released by another team.

    Don’t they all?

  36. j0esixpack says: May 2, 2012 6:09 PM

    capslockkey says: Crowed depth chart – yes. Young depth chart – no.

    =================

    True – but they’re not locked into long term expensive deals with anyone either.

    Sure that means that they may need to add some younger WRs in the coming years – but for this season, given that volume of players they’ve spent relatively little to give themselves insurance in case of injury or faltering performance.

    Paying Welker $9 million for one season is no hardship for the team and is much more team friendly than a longer term deal with 2-3x as much guaranteed cash. (And at that low price I don’t see him being traded – he’s too much of an asset to help the team win NOW.)

    The roster will be decided the way it should be – through competition in camp.

  37. bozosforall says: May 2, 2012 6:11 PM

    ijahru says:
    May 2, 2012 5:56 PM
    I predict Welker will get traded. It happened to Branch and Samuel when they were franchised. I think with the TEs emerging what Welker offers could be gotten from Gonzalez or Edelman for far less money. I know Welker has been awesome for the Patriots but why bust the salary cap for a possesion receiver in his 30s? Welker can still play but do you think he is worth Fitzgerald money? I say let him find a team that will pay him what he wants, it is the fair thing to do for him. I think a 1st round or a couple of 2nd round picks is good compensation.

    __
    No team is going to give the Pats a 1st rounder or two 2nds for a possession receiver in his 30s for whom they would have to bust the salary cap.

  38. theandy59 says: May 2, 2012 6:13 PM

    @ijahru. First, you can’t trade a player until he signs his tender. Welker hasn’t signed his so New England can’t trade him. Second, no team is going to give New England a first or a couple seconds for him given what a team would need to pay him; it’s likely that the most you would fetch for him would be a 4th round pick. The most likely outcome is New England holds him, Welker eventually signs his tender, and he plays out the season with the Patriots.

  39. emaimo80 says: May 2, 2012 6:13 PM

    Damn Dolphins!!! Why do they show no nuts to go out and get a sure thing. It drives me crazy!!!!!
    ——–
    Our GM Ireland is horrible! Still don’t have Marshall’s replacement. Pats are going to destroy us this year, again….why can’t we do anything right? Why the hell are we giving Jacory Harris a shot to be a Dolphin? Ahhhhhh!

  40. mrl7265 says: May 2, 2012 6:18 PM

    People are always on this site hating on the Patriots. That happens to all Dynasty teams. Haters keep on hating and the Patriots will keep on winning!!

  41. blue18hutthutt says: May 2, 2012 6:24 PM

    For a QB who supposedly does “more with less” Brady apparently needs more than 2 elite pass catching TEs, the best slot WR in the league, an elite OL (3 All Pros and a rookie 1st rounder who looks to be very good) and now an elite deep WR who put up big numbers in McDaniels system

    Will Brady need a HoF RB next season as the excuse they don’t win the Superbowl?

  42. cometophillyforthecrack says: May 2, 2012 6:25 PM

    Was just saying how he was a stud in 07′ with brady, i loved that catch he had in the endzone during the final seconds to own the ravens, $$$.

  43. backindasaddle says: May 2, 2012 6:34 PM

    This is good. Gaffney knows the system and performed well in it. Chad Nocho Brainzo sucked in it. The Pats are gonna be far better at that 3rd, 4th, 5th receiver spots than they were last year regardless of whether the mentally challenged one is there or not. Chad Nocho Brainzo had better be studying the playbook this off season and get that slow-absorption-rate-little-pea-brain in gear and fully saturated with the nuances of the Pats offense or he’ll be gone very quickly. The Pats will assess all these receivers and keep the ones that know the system and can perform consistently in it. Chad will need have a massive off season “enlightenment” or he’s gone. There’s no room for anything less from him come training camp.

  44. CKL says: May 2, 2012 6:41 PM

    CKL says:
    May 2, 2012 6:28 PM
    footballfanman says:
    May 2, 2012 5:53 PM
    Redskins pick him up “He’s a bum, lol Failskins.”

    Patriots pick him up “Nice pickup, good receiver.”
    ______________________________
    That wouldn’t be me, I was FURIOUS when the Pats didn’t give Jabs a 2 year deal prior to 08. He’s the best #3 WR they’ve ever had under BB. Then naturally Mickey D signs him in Denver. SMH. It was IMO one of BB’s worst decisions. Jabs was great in Wash, I knew Shanny would love him because he’s a smart receiver who picks things up quickly. I am SOOOOOOOO HAPPY to have him back to my team.

  45. laxcoach37 says: May 2, 2012 6:43 PM

    The Rich get Richer. If they don’t win the SB, this can only be viewed as a Team on the decline for the next 6 years because the Bills and Dolphins are getting much better again like it was 10 years ago. The “cakewalk” is over after this year. I know, I left the Jets out because they already peaked and missed.

  46. rockhill32 says: May 2, 2012 6:48 PM

    ” …guy who made a big catch against the Ravens to help the team keep their 2007 run at an undefeated regular season alive.”

    He bobbled that TD catch but the refs gave it to him even after a review. Scandalous!

  47. backindasaddle says: May 2, 2012 6:50 PM

    elmaxoh says:
    May 2, 2012 5:43 PM
    Ocho will not leave New England .. Bill wants to see more of him next season .
    ________________________________________________________

    If Nocho Brainzo doesn’t demonstrate a drastic improvement in training camp and still struggles to comprehend the offense….. GONE. Bill will not play favorites with players who plainly are not producing. That is bad for team chemistry and moral and Bill won’t do it. Chad will get his chance in training camp. Beyond that it’s up to that little brain of his get the system.

  48. waltdawg says: May 2, 2012 7:00 PM

    Is it just me, or are the Patriots the #1 home of displaced ex-redskins??? What is going on here?

    Lloyd, Gaffney, Haynesworth, Carter etc….

  49. bcgreg says: May 2, 2012 7:00 PM

    “We’re getting the band back together”?

    Are we talking about the Pats or Love Handel?

  50. manofmanners says: May 2, 2012 7:13 PM

    It’ll be raining touchdowns in New England.

  51. grandpoopah says: May 2, 2012 7:16 PM

    He’ll be the best #10 WR in the league.

  52. bozosforall says: May 2, 2012 7:43 PM

    mrl7265 says:
    May 2, 2012 6:18 PM
    People are always on this site hating on the Patriots. That happens to all Dynasty teams. Haters keep on hating and the Patriots will keep on winning!!

    ___
    I don’t see near as many people “hating” on the Giants (nearing a “dynasty”, with two SBs in the last 4 years), the Steelers (two SBs in the last 5 or 6 years and 6 overall) or the Colts (only one but one of the winningest teams in the last decade). Also don’t see many fans “hating” on older “dynasty” teams such as the Packers, Raiders, Cowboys or Niners. It must be something else…maybe the fact that the Pats got caught cheating and the obnoxious fan base refuses to admit that their team is a bunch of cheaters. You loudmouthed New England idiots only have yourselves to blame when it comes to your team being “hated” on. Deal with it, crybabies.

  53. bozosforall says: May 2, 2012 7:47 PM

    truetrue85 says:
    May 2, 2012 6:02 PM
    terripet says:
    May 2, 2012 4:54 PM
    pats get another bum
    —————————————————-

    Shows how much you know…

    Jabar Gaffney was one of Tom Brady’s most reliable receivers in his time in New England and was Brady’s favorite redzone target. In other words, Gaffney was Welker before Welker was a Patriot. Out of every offseason move, this one is my favorite.
    __
    Shows how much YOU know…

    Gaffney didn’t even catch as many balls in his three years in NE (85) as Welker caught in his one worst season there (86). Gaffney wasn’t even remotely Welker. But thanks for proving that NE fans are the stupidest ones out there.

  54. backindasaddle says: May 2, 2012 7:49 PM

    laxcoach37 says:
    May 2, 2012 6:43 PM
    The Rich get Richer. If they don’t win the SB, this can only be viewed as a Team on the decline for the next 6 years because the Bills and Dolphins are getting much better again like it was 10 years ago. The “cakewalk” is over after this year. I know, I left the Jets out because they already peaked and missed.
    _______________________________________________________

    I think the Bills will be improved. I agree with that. They were much improved last year until their QB got banged up. They seem to have developed confidence and I see them doing well. Miami??????????……. I doubt it. The Jerks????????…… Jerks.

    However, you seem to be saying that unless the Pats win a Super Bowl this year then…. that’s it!… they’re all done and destined to go right down the tubes. That is absolutely ludicrous and it does not reflect how the Pats do things nor does it take into account how they have operated ever since BB came to NE. I think the success rate over the last decade illustrates that they know how to evolve/reconstitute the team on a continuous basis. They went to the SB 01, 03, 04, 07 & 11. That’s 5 years out 10! and almost none of the original SB players were on the 2011 team. Last year they went with an extremely young/inexperienced defense that will only get better with the maturation of those players. Also, this years draft was 90% defensive players with two 1st round studs. The offense looks now to be much better at WR than last years with all the proven guys they have signed and the two awesome TEs are just now coming into their prime. Also let’s not forget that Brady and BB are still here and still the best in the game. The stability, consistency, and success that breeds will continue on. I think the Pats are going to be highly successful, not only this coming year, but for many more. They know how to constantly evolve/regenerate/reconstitute. Brady will be around and productive for at least 3 more years. He has openly professed on multiple occasions that he wants to play until he’s 40. With his mental game/pocket passer style….. why not. I wouldn’t be writing the Pats obituary too soon my friend.

  55. tigerlilac says: May 2, 2012 7:50 PM

    I didn’t think there was any way Welker would play elsewhere this year but I am not so sure now. $9 million is a lot of money and the Patriots have been known to want to get value for the players that leave. Atlanta, St. Louis, Arizona, Dallas and Detroit are all possibilities. I still think he stays but it would not shock me to see them cut a deal with him and another team.

  56. bullcharger says: May 2, 2012 8:08 PM

    laxcoach37 says:May 2, 2012 6:43 PM

    The Rich get Richer. If they don’t win the SB, this can only be viewed as a Team on the decline for the next 6 years because the Bills and Dolphins are getting much better again like it was 10 years ago. The “cakewalk” is over after this year. I know, I left the Jets out because they already peaked and missed.

    ———————-

    I’ll buy the Bills to some degree and I think they have a shot at the playoffs this year because of the easy schedule for the AFC East. However, how are Miami getting better exactly? Miami are in a horrible shambles and are likely to have a historically bad season. One unproven QB prospect doesn’t make it any better.

  57. tigerlilac says: May 2, 2012 8:12 PM

    bozo says that no team is going to give the Pats a 1st rounder or two 2nds for a possession receiver in his 30s for whom they would have to bust the salary cap. Bozo, maybe you are right but someone will pay a high price and Welker is likely agreeable to a reasonable three year deal. Us Pats fans would hate to see him go but we know that Belichick, like Red Auerbach, is always looking to position the team to compete for the next championship while building a sustaining franchise. Isn’t that why you are always on the Patriot threads and we are not on your team’s threads, a team that hasn’t been to the Super Bowl since 1967?

  58. flash1283 says: May 2, 2012 8:21 PM

    @ Blowsforall ,

    You really can’t help yourself, can you?

    There must be at least 50 comments from you in the last 2 days on 4 different Patriot threads. All with the same lame ass comments.

    You really are a loser. Just look at the time stamps from all the post.

    Get away from the computer, take one of those government checks and get out of the double wide and get some fresh air.

  59. aljack88 says: May 2, 2012 8:51 PM

    bozosforall says:
    May 2, 2012 7:43 PM
    I don’t see near as many people “hating” on the Giants (nearing a “dynasty”, with two SBs in the last 4 years), the Steelers (two SBs in the last 5 or 6 years and 6 overall) or the Colts (only one but one of the winningest teams in the last decade). Also don’t see many fans “hating” on older “dynasty” teams such as the Packers, Raiders, Cowboys or Niners. It must be something else…maybe the fact that the Pats got caught cheating and the obnoxious fan base refuses to admit that their team is a bunch of cheaters. You loudmouthed New England idiots only have yourselves to blame when it comes to your team being “hated” on. Deal with it, crybabies.
    ——————————————————–
    I thought someone crapped their pants but it was just Bozo spewing again..

    Most of the readers/commenters of PFT were probably not around when the Packers, 49ers, Cowboys, Raiders? and Steelers had their dynasty runs. PFT wasn’t around then either.

    Any team that’s in the midst of a “dynasty” run usually becomes hated in due time. The Pats were hated long before 2007 season. The Cowboys were hated (are still?) well after the 90s were over. The Raiders get hated whenever they start winning. There were more Giants fans being Coughlin haters the first month or so of the 07 season, including the NY news media.

    The Lombardi Packers, the Noll Steelers and the Walsh 49ers, IMO, are probably the most respected. My favorite of the 3 was the Steelers.

  60. gobills716 says: May 2, 2012 8:55 PM

    With those two TEs and now a plethora of options to the outside, the Patriots offense is going to very very good this year. With Brady turning 35 this year, I estimate he only has 5 years left in him. Then the AFC will be competitive again….

  61. randallflagg52 says: May 2, 2012 9:39 PM

    I love you Chowdaah Heads thinking this is a great signing. He’s and old never was WR. How many teams has he been on in his career? Has he ever had a 1000 yard season? I mean the guy has 24 TD’s going into his 10th season and you guys act like you picked up Calvin Johnson. I don’t get how Gaffney is still in the NFL while guys like Darrell Jackson are not…

    I really would like to see NE lose every game this year just to bring you all back down to earth, but your soft little team somehow gets to beat up on the most inept teams in the NFL each year. I would love to see NE get burried in a real division like the NFC or AFC North but keep it up with your usual routine lately of going none and done in the playoffs, last year was a fluke.

  62. jrfrom508 says: May 2, 2012 10:26 PM

    I love the move. It means though – one or more WRs I was pulling for, will not make the team.
    NE is stacked on both sides. Go PATS

  63. der6495 says: May 3, 2012 1:21 AM

    Belichick to WRs – “So…. who other than Edelman can play some defense for us?”

  64. belicheckyoself says: May 3, 2012 2:59 AM

    I love how the Pats probably pickup a middle grade WR and the comment section devolves to “they werent so great when they won 3SBs” and “their not going to win that many SBs in the coming years “. Thanks bozo.
    I still hate the 90′s cowboys, and still like the 80′s 9ers. Yes I bandwagon Jumoed. At 5. I didn’t really likethe Pats till Parcells came in in 91-92.
    That being said Gaffney was brought in to teach something. He has great timing and knows where to be, but he cant catch footballs from Brady. He dropped a lot of big plays, and the bigger the play the more psychotically fast brady throws.
    I wonder if he’s coming in to coach in a couple years. Getting ditched by the Redskins is a terrible career move for a player.

  65. chrisjohnston10 says: May 3, 2012 5:50 AM

    Belichick must have liked Edelman and Slater on defense so much that he decided to make the whole team wide receivers.

  66. thetruth1313 says: May 3, 2012 7:30 AM

    bozosforall says:
    May 2, 2012 7:47 PM

    Shows how much YOU know…

    Gaffney didn’t even catch as many balls in his three years in NE (85) as Welker caught in his one worst season there (86). Gaffney wasn’t even remotely Welker. But thanks for proving that NE fans are the stupidest ones out there.

    ———————————————-

    And thanks for always proving that you are a Patriots fan deep down. Why would a hater always know statistics about a team that he hates so much? Why would a hater always comment on every single article?

    Welcome to Pats Nation Bozo! Isnt it great to be a fan of a team that has one of the greatest QB’s and coaches of all time? A team that constanly contends for a championship year in and year out? I know, its awesome, right?!?!?!?

  67. brokentreehousemusic says: May 3, 2012 8:31 AM

    With two pass-catching TEs and other WRs (you forgot Slater and Underwood) it’s crowded indeed.

    Half will get cut… I’d wager on a final WR roster of:

    Welker
    Lloyd
    Gaffney
    Ochocinco
    Slater
    Edelman
    Branch

  68. mrconnors says: May 3, 2012 8:56 AM

    RandallFlagg, the Patriots were 4-0 against the NFC North in 2010. They’re 6-2 against the Steelers with Tom Brady, have won every game but one against the Ravens, and have beaten the Bengals every time.

    LOL, the Browns give them their biggest fits. Shows how “great” the AFC North is.

  69. jmc000 says: May 3, 2012 10:50 AM

    2010 in McDaniels Offense with Kyle Orton as the QB

    Lloyd and Gaffney combined for 142 rec 2323 yards and 13 touchdowns

  70. cavallininja says: May 3, 2012 5:52 PM

    the patriots signed another WR that cannot seperate from top dbs. GREAT IDEA!!!

  71. cavallininja says: May 3, 2012 5:56 PM

    @randallflagg52 ,
    you did not mention darrell jackson?????really????

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