Comments on: Jonathan Vilma releases statement about suspension

By: clubergo

clubergo — Thu, 03 May 2012 15:21:43 +0000

Yup sounds just like he wrote it…lawyered up and all.

By: saints25

saints25 — Thu, 03 May 2012 13:07:45 +0000

What the unknown source basically said to Werder is that GW was looking for an extra incentive to heighten the players intensity prior to the playoff games against Arizona and Minnesota. GW pulled Vilma aside and said he had an idea. He reportedly gave Vilma $10K to put down in front of the players to motivate them and the money was never paid out, but rather returned to GW. Since it worked so well to motivate players against Arizona, it was repeated against Minnesota.

The source alleges that Vilma did not use his money, nor was the intent to injury another player. Sounds like they will force the NFL to distinguish between pay for performance and intent to injure. Werder did mention that Warner was injured in that game. He failed to mention that is was a legal hit.

By: mornelithe

mornelithe — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:54:23 +0000

brewcrewfan54 says:
May 2, 2012 11:03 PM
Lotta people in here think he’s automatically guilty. Kinda sad. I haven’t seen any players come out and say they saw it. Everyone here just automatically believe it happened.
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I absolutely 100% agree with you…oh wait, except for Hargrove admitting to his involvement in, and the existence of, AND his involvement in helping keep the truth from investigators…

Do you seriously think the NFL and Gooddell are going to take action, without having some actual physical evidence and sworn testimony? You…are aware they have tons of money, and with that, hordes of lawyers…right?

As much as everyone may hate Gooddell, and for all I know they have very good reason, the fact remains no businessman takes an action like this without having substantial probable cause.

By: jazzytrav

jazzytrav — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:27:43 +0000

He’s had plenty of time to prepare this statement, which means he had plenty of time to figure out how to substitute “intended” for “offered” so he can claim innocence while still having an out.

By: BeachBum46

BeachBum46 — Thu, 03 May 2012 03:36:41 +0000

To f@&$king bad, you were caught. End of story.

By: brewcrewfan54

brewcrewfan54 — Thu, 03 May 2012 03:03:00 +0000

Lotta people in here think he’s automatically guilty. Kinda sad. I haven’t seen any players come out and say they saw it. Everyone here just automatically believe it happened.

By: jw5111

jw5111 — Thu, 03 May 2012 03:00:08 +0000

Rexismybff- I’m not a Patriots fan by any means but get over “spygate”. You use any opportunity you can to bring it up in every post about the Saints “bounty program”. You are just a sad jealous Jet fan that can’t handle the fact that the Patriots have reached success that your franchise will never achieve. Why don’t you contribute something that pertains to the actual post or just not comment at all!!!

By: sdpaulson

sdpaulson — Thu, 03 May 2012 02:47:18 +0000

I think its time for the Saints to tell Goodell they are just going to take a year off and shove it up the touch football league’s a$$.

Seriously, I am just about to drop football the way I’ve dropped the NBA and “play ground” basketball…..

By: ajpurp

ajpurp — Thu, 03 May 2012 02:17:58 +0000

Man people, you don’t get evidence you when you get fired or suspended from your job they just tell you it’s done! Until he actually files a suit or an appeal, like Payton and loomis, he will not get to see the evidence piled against him, because that exposes your entire case against the person and all the lawyering done before you even have a dispute. It’s plain ridiculous, he doesn’t have a right to evidence against him until there is a formal grievance just like any G**DA*N employee.

By: geniusesq

geniusesq — Thu, 03 May 2012 01:33:14 +0000

Bounty – the quicker, picker, upper

By: qwest12

qwest12 — Thu, 03 May 2012 01:16:02 +0000

They have been talking about him being involved for months, why is this the first time I have heard him deny the claims? I’ll tell you why he didn’t think that he was going to get in trouble and if he did, he thought he would get a slap on the wrist. Too late for your lies should have spoken up sooner. Maybe you can get Andy petit to say he has first hand knowledge of your guilt and then change his story.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 03 May 2012 01:12:00 +0000

Vilma says that he never made the cash offers attributed to him in the original bounty report and that he plans to fight the suspension.
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And every guy in prison is innocent, too.

By: canuckinamerica

canuckinamerica — Thu, 03 May 2012 01:04:54 +0000

Think the last line from his statement was omitted ……”by the way, nobody taped me, right?”

By: amoses74

amoses74 — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:58:57 +0000

A message to ALL NFL players:

If you dont like the commish, if you dont like the rules the NFL has, if you dont like the punishment handed out…… DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YA! I hear the CFL is great.

By: shlort

shlort — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:52:14 +0000

I am with Vilma on this one. Where is the evidence? If the NFL can dish out some evidence, then, and only then, is Vilma guilty of any rules violation.

All I have seen so far is articles with accusations in them and video with guys hitting other guys on a football field. The accusations are presented wirh heresay evidence, and the hits are highlight reel stuff you can get from all 32 NFL teams.

Show some evidence, or give the accused the benifit of the doubt

By: shiftyshellshocked

shiftyshellshocked — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:50:55 +0000

Good for him.

By: aces79

aces79 — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:29:40 +0000

NICE TRY VILMA NOW YOU ARE TALKING WHEN YOU GET COUGHT WHY DIDNT YOU TALK BEFORE THE INVESTGATION NICE TRY BYE BYE 2012 SEASON

WHAT ABOUT ROMAN HARPER?????????

By: goodlookingmonkey

goodlookingmonkey — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:11:41 +0000

Dear Johnathan Vilma,

Dude, you got busted. Your coach got busted. Your teammates got busted. Not only that, people watching the games can see something was up. You got caught. End of story.

We seen this time and time again with a player accused of something, says its not true, appeal the decision, only for it to be true after all. But it is smart he’s denying it. Then he can appeal and get the suspension shortened. If he just flat out and said, “Yeah I did it,” appeal denied. Either way he should just man up, he was their leader.

By: lnfinite

lnfinite — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:06:05 +0000

Cry, Taint fans cry.

By: dzor22

dzor22 — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:01:47 +0000

Arrogance run amuck. The Saints SUCK!

By: themonster49

themonster49 — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:01:18 +0000

The NFL as a business focuses solely on their product, this includes their image and their actual product to be marketed. Vilma is an important part of that current product, what does the NFL gain by not allowing him on the field all of next season? They suspended him for a year. I think they have him on tape, he better hope it’s not video.

By: thefiesty1

thefiesty1 — Thu, 03 May 2012 00:00:58 +0000

The cat is already out of the bag, just retire and move on with your life.

By: palinforpresidentofnorthkorea

palinforpresidentofnorthkorea — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:58:22 +0000

Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan!

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when the league office presents the statements from two or more of your union brothers where they told the freakin’ truth about your actions!

Are you gonna feel the urge to knock them out?

By: granadafan

granadafan — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:58:18 +0000

That was a nicely written statement by HIS LAWYER, not Vilma. Anyone who has heard Vilma talk knows he can’t write that well or is in nice legalese/ PR language.

By: drgreenstreak

drgreenstreak — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:51:49 +0000

“I never set out to intentionally hurt any player and never enticed any teammate to intentionally hurt another player…..(I’ll finish his thought)—–
but now I wanna get the guy who snitched me off!”

eat a turd, Vilma.

By: deathtoromo

deathtoromo — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:21:15 +0000

What a coward. Hide behind a lawyer and flat out lie. Does this idiot really think people much smarter and educated in law would do this without looking at legal ramifications? Go away Vilma and take that turd Fujita with you.

By: bootsers

bootsers — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:07:27 +0000

That’s it guys. Keep showing young guys that it is ok to lie. Does anyone honestly believe the league would come down this hard, knowing the fight they are in for, without evidence? And we wonder why our youth have no morals.

By: purplehayseuss

purplehayseuss — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:01:55 +0000

musicman495 says: May 2, 2012 5:28 PM

pickleman77 says: May 2, 2012 5:21 PM

Sorry. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
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Beautifully said – the foundational principle of American justice. Let us know if you feel the same way if you are ever arrested.

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No one has been arrested here. I cannot imagine anyone being arrested here. Even if the IRS gets involved, there won’t be any arrests. IRS has no arrest power.

Pickleman meant the evidence on audio and video that clearly showed Vilma doing and saying what he’s now claiming never happened.

If anyone is arrested or legally prosecuted, it will be a clear signal of a major shift in our society, in my opinion. If so, what is to stop movie villains from being prosecuted?

By: jacunn2000

jacunn2000 — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:00:38 +0000

This has George W Bush written all over it.

By: politebat

politebat — Wed, 02 May 2012 23:00:35 +0000

you people are so dumb. the man has a lawyer like everyone else. if any of you ever got in trouble you first thing u do is get a lawyer. now vilma says no he did not…the nfl say he did. this is america…show the evidence. how do you take somones word for it just cause they say so…no we need proof. if you have proof show us.