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Report: Brad McCoy’s comments sealed Colt’s fate in Cleveland

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After Browns quarterback Colt McCoy suffered an obvious (to everyone but the Browns) concussion during a Thursday night game against the Steelers in December 2011, McCoy’s father, Brad, called out the Browns for failing to keep Colt out of the game.

At the time, I feared the Browns would hold those comments against Colt.  According to Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com, they have.

Grossi reports that “McCoy’s fate as a former starter was sealed” when Brad McCoy sounded off.

It’s not a surprise.  Football coaches at every level generally prefer that parents butt out.  Given the fairly legendary temper of Browns president Mike Holmgren and the high degree of sensitivity that the Browns exhibited regarding the question of whether Colt McCoy should have re-entered the game, Brad McCoy’s words undoubtedly triggered a stream of four-letter words at Browns headquarters in Berea.

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  1. bobulated says: May 3, 2012 2:54 PM

    Colt McCoy should be glad to move on from an organization that is a) utterly oblivious to their QB obviously being badly hurt, then trotting him back out there and b) so rabbit eared sensitive about criticism that they let a concerned parent influence their roster decisions.

  2. 9ersfaithful says: May 3, 2012 2:54 PM

    Any parent should have done the same thing. The Browns were downright neglectful during the situation. It was clear as day that he had suffered some type of head injury. He was completely dazed when he went off of the field.

  3. djfree42 says: May 3, 2012 2:54 PM

    Come on you guys are better than that. Of course if tony Grossi said it it must be y true. Seriously? The only thing keeping McCoy from starting is talent, put lack thereof.

  4. steelbydesign says: May 3, 2012 2:55 PM

    Sorry, but no.

    Would the Patriots, Packers, Saints, Broncos, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Chargers, Lions, Texans, Rams, etc ship their QB out of town because his dad made a few negative comments about a team decision?

    NO!

  5. killericon says: May 3, 2012 2:55 PM

    I can’t believe that an NFL team would base its personnel decisions around what a player’s father said.

    I mean it. I don’t believe it.

  6. whatnojets says: May 3, 2012 2:55 PM

    Now I know why everyone hates the Cleveland Browns!!

  7. ttoptom says: May 3, 2012 2:55 PM

    This would explain why the Browns consistently rot — they’re still playing little league and worrying about what the parents have to say.

  8. sirhulka says: May 3, 2012 2:56 PM

    Yes, shame on McCoy’s father for being pissed about the team clearly putting his son’s life in danger. Despite Holmgren’s garbage excuses to the media, there is no way that anyone in the coordinator’s booth didn’t recognize that McCoy was not fit to go back into the game. Holmgren is such a tool. I really hope McCoy goes somewhere else and is successful just to spite the Browns. The funniest thing is, now that the Lions are good, the Browns are the true joke of the NFL. I hope their fans continue to live in misery.

  9. trollhammer20 says: May 3, 2012 2:56 PM

    If this is true, it’s freaking ludicrous, especially given the current stance on concussions and player safety. If you are going to dump McCoy, let it be because of his performance on the field (you certainly might be able to find cause there), not because a parent pointed the finger at an organization that didn’t have his son’s best interests in mind.

  10. trojanwarrior007 says: May 3, 2012 2:56 PM

    Any one else not buying this story?

  11. bchapman2011 says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    HAHA everytime I write a comment PFT zaps it.
    I am not saying anything abrasive but god forbid you critique their articles!

  12. linvillegorge says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    Not surprising, but also, it should be noted that Brad McCoy was right. It should also be noted that he probably should’ve been smart enough not to make those comments publicly.

  13. breakyourballz says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    Grossi wouldn’t happen to have any hidden agendas would he? This guy is a hack.. He sucked on the beat and he sucks on the radio.

  14. chocopoppy says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    awful team, awful city, awful colors, nosepicking fanbase.

    How about the L.A. Browns?

  15. zabam1 says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    Florio – you did the Grossi interview yourself, and posted it. This is not what he said. He said he didn’t have any doubt that Brad McCoy’s comments played into what has since developed with the Browns quarterbacking – not that they sealed the deal. Plus, any credible reporting that uses Grossi as its source has to recognize that he likely has an ax to grind with the Browns – regardless of his position.

  16. raven410 says: May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    Colt probably has his Browns helmet on right now…still thinking it’s 3rd and goal.

  17. blackqbwhiterb says: May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    First, McCoy shouldn’t be thrown out like last week’s trash so quick. He was a good QB in college and may not have had enough of a chance to succeed in the NFL. Apparently it won’t be with the Browns. As to his father, I understand his concern completely, but he’s making millions to play in the NFL, keep out of it, he’s a grown man who needs to take care of his own business……….Even at little league baseball, nobody likes the parent yelling out to the kid in the field what to do, or hollering to the coach from the bleachers.

  18. skinsdan says: May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    The Browns are the new Raiders

  19. brokea$$lovesmesomeme says: May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    Show me a father who would’not do the same-thing?

  20. patsfanvt says: May 3, 2012 3:00 PM

    That was far from the main reason.

  21. getthegleam says: May 3, 2012 3:00 PM

    I’m curious as to how many other Brown’s players parents start sounding off so it gets them off that team as well.

  22. dejan36 says: May 3, 2012 3:01 PM

    a) well he did not say anything about having concussion. He said that his arm was hurt
    b) No organization likes their own employees to publicly criticize them.
    c) next time, he should man up and stand for himself. Don’t have your father criticizing the organization for you

  23. patsfanvt says: May 3, 2012 3:01 PM

    not that Colt was a bad QB, but if a franchise makes a decision based on that it would be pretty stupid.

  24. nflsucker says: May 3, 2012 3:01 PM

    You know those situations where both sides are wrong?

    If McCoy had more talent, they’d keep him.

    If the organization had the smarts to get a decent receiver or three for their QBs, they might not be such basement prowlers.

    I’ll bet both sides aren’t interested in looking in the rear-view mirror.

  25. Match Point Floppy says: May 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    So when is Goodell going to crack down on Cleveland for putting a guy with an obvious concussion back in the game– and then blackballing him for being concerned about his own safety?

    Hypocrite.

  26. pdillon1 says: May 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    Yeah well since guys in the prime of their lives after football are knowingly taking the painful and horrid step of shooting themselves in the chest so they can have brain’s study because of its damage, it’s small price to pay for his son’s health and future.

  27. hawaiifunfnull says: May 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    Teams are sensitive to criticism from their players’ parents. That’s understandable. But maybe a team should be slightly less sensitive to such criticism when it is entirely VALID and its validity is rather obvious to the rest of the world.

  28. fissels says: May 3, 2012 3:02 PM

    I hope Colt finds a team that appreciates him

  29. biasedhomer says: May 3, 2012 3:04 PM

    Grown men should not let others do the talking for them. Advice is always good, but actually doing the speaking, not so much.

  30. etc4779 says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    This organization is a joke….hope you get out of there Colt…

  31. roosky75 says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    From what I have read, Colt’s dad has been a pain in the ass at UT as well concerning Colt’s brother Case. Brad is seen as a problem parent.

  32. slumdog66 says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    Nobody wants to play for the browns anyways. Good for him

  33. raider8er says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    If I was Colt’s father, mother or friend I would be angry too.

    As a fan watching that Thursday night I was shocked the Browns put him back in the game.

    After decades of futility the Lions are getting it together at last. Meanwhile the Browns are finding new ways to be the living textbook of what not to do.

  34. nbaraie says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    Didn’t they have MRSA problem in their medical facility? Seems to me they have the worst medical department in the NFL.

    I dont blame Brad McCoy one bit. Their judgment stinks.

  35. bryans49ers says: May 3, 2012 3:05 PM

    Im getting tired of this Mike Holemgren guy who thinks hes bigger and smarter than the game itself. If that was his kid, you know all well would have broken loose. All well will break loose when he Matt Millens the Browns.

  36. lanflfan says: May 3, 2012 3:06 PM

    I completely agree. The man was knocked silly, and the absolute last place he should have been was back on the field taking more shots.

    If teams play “shell games” with players who suffer concussions, and they are discovered after the game has ended, the NFL should fine the organization (or take away a draft pick for repeated infractions). You won’t make teams stop utterly stupid behavior unless you give them a reason to stop.

  37. viceburgh says: May 3, 2012 3:06 PM

    For a guy that otherwise resembles a walrus, seems like Mike Holmgren is awfully thin-skinned.

  38. geezohman says: May 3, 2012 3:07 PM

    yeah… that was real ‘chicken’ boop for what they did to Colt.

    check out this data: 2011. Colt finishes in the top ten for completions in all of the AFC at #7 i believe it was. He was #18 in all of the NFL ! for completions….
    meanwhile … his receivers contributed to the worst rating for ‘drops’ in all of the NFL. Just think if in his second year (2011) they would have got him a couple receivers ! Look at the rival Steelers… did NOT three as in 3 have over 1000 yards each, Antonio Brown was a 6 round draft choice !

    Now the Browns start with 17th QB since 1999 Tim couch

  39. godofwine330 says: May 3, 2012 3:07 PM

    How has the hot tempered Holmgren been able to be in the business for so long? I mean he is so damned sensitive and in that line or any line of business it behooves you to be more Michael Corleone than Santino.

    To let the comments from any parent or anybody else rankle you so much that you don’t want the guy playing/starting for your team is beyond ridiculous. The Browns eff’ed up. The whole world knows that McCoy shouldn’t have been in the game. Brad spoke up for his son as any parent would who saw a team (who was far out of playoff contention by the way) put their child in danger when that team is SUPPOSED to have the guy’s best interests in mind, especially when it comes to medical issues.

    If it is truly because of that that McCoy isn’t starting we cost our team a draft pick (#22 would have been better spent of T Riley or G DeCastro) and set our team back another couple of years as we start over YET AGAIN at the QB position. I no longer have faith in Holmgren as he is just another failure of an owner that clearly knows nothing about how to run a team or who to put in charge that actually does.

  40. 4thquartermagic says: May 3, 2012 3:07 PM

    I’m on the Browns side on this one.

    I wouldn’t want outside voices criticizing the team in regards to player safety. Parents should keep their mouths shut even if their sons health is put at risk due to negligence by the team.

    Besides, it’s all about winning, right people?

    Look at the scoreboard, obviously they know what they’re doing.

    Stay classy Cleveland

  41. dayumyou says: May 3, 2012 3:08 PM

    No wonder these losers can’t win anything…..SMDH!!!

  42. hutch119 says: May 3, 2012 3:08 PM

    This is why they are the Browns. Man I feel bad for Trent Richardson. Such a tremendous talent going to waste.

  43. steeltuff says: May 3, 2012 3:09 PM

    It’s a blessing in disguise that Colt leaves the “mistake on the lake.”

  44. jbcommonsense says: May 3, 2012 3:10 PM

    This sounds like evidence for the former players’ concussion lawsuit.

  45. bigjdve says: May 3, 2012 3:10 PM

    If that is how they determine who is going to start, then they deserve to win. Then again the players should be suing teams that do that instead of the NFL.

  46. mulletcork says: May 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Cleveland did Colt wrong here. Hopefully for him, he can get out of town really quick. Enjoy old man Weeden!!

  47. waitingguilty says: May 3, 2012 3:11 PM

    Not to mention Holmgren’s legendary appetite…

  48. bradshawlives says: May 3, 2012 3:13 PM

    Holmgren’s the most overrated football mind in the NFL.

  49. joemammy says: May 3, 2012 3:13 PM

    That is Grossi’s OPINION, Mr. Florio. As someone who makes a living from opinions, you should be able to recognize one when you read it, and not assign more value than it deserves.

    That aside, do you really believe that a multi-million dollar football franchise is so thin-skinned as to throw away a QB who has any real value to the team?

    If Colt is traded or cut from the Browns, it will be because his quality of play has less value than his contract. Stop trying to be so sensational. You only appease the ignorant…

  50. jacunn2000 says: May 3, 2012 3:14 PM

    Browns are a disgrace. Holmgren has failed.

  51. packhawk04 says: May 3, 2012 3:15 PM

    Concerned parents at the nfl level… never ceases to amaze me.

  52. B-bo says: May 3, 2012 3:16 PM

    Yes, Tony Grossi is clearly the man to rely on for clear, unbiased “reports” on this team.

  53. pftcensorssuck says: May 3, 2012 3:17 PM

    This says a whole lot more about Mike Holmgren, than it does about Brad McCoy

  54. gmen1987 says: May 3, 2012 3:18 PM

    killericon says:
    May 3, 2012 2:55 PM
    I can’t believe that an NFL team would base its personnel decisions around what a player’s father said.

    I mean it. I don’t believe it.

    ===================================
    Umm, how about Archie Manning and the Colts?

    Sorry folks, concussion or no concussion, Colt McCoy is not a starting calibre NFL starting QB, at least not outdoors in a cold weather city.

  55. sc5000 says: May 3, 2012 3:20 PM

    Please! So the Browns ignored the criticism of ESPN and NFL network and pretty much the rest of ALL AMERICA who saw that hit, but the fathers comments just sent them over the edge. Look if wanna replace QB’s, no ones gonna argue to each their own. To use his dad as the scapegoat is just pathetic.

  56. mvp43 says: May 3, 2012 3:21 PM

    Other than 1 Super Bowl with the Packers in ’96, Holmgren has done Squat……..

  57. belfastelf says: May 3, 2012 3:21 PM

    The Browns will be back. They are building a team that cannot move forward with colt. He is a good kid but a team needs to address his lack of NFL talent. If you look at the Browns draft picks since Mancini came on board the philosophy of the organization is to pick up solid character guys. Browns have continued that in the last two drafts. It is not personal. It is a business decision. Good luck to Colt.

  58. adamc0nley says: May 3, 2012 3:21 PM

    Well if Colt was an ACTUAL NFL quarterback, he wouldn’t be losing his job.

    You all have obviously never seen this guy throw lame duck after lame duck in games.

    Good riddance.

  59. godofwine330 says: May 3, 2012 3:22 PM

    @May 3, 2012 3:07 PM
    I’m on the Browns side on this one.

    I wouldn’t want outside voices criticizing the team in regards to player safety. Parents should keep their mouths shut even if their sons health is put at risk due to negligence by the team.

    *********

    Okay. You are on the Browns side. But we live in a world where everybody has an opinion and a mic or computer in their faces. To be in that position you must ignore them no matter who they are coming from or how close. This isn’t tee ball, but the Browns are acting as if it is – the Pouting Holmgren is acting like it is. Your dad said saomething I did not like, so you aren’t suiting up this week. Hey, it isn’t MY fault. Thank your dad.”

    Holmgren should learn with the media or in this case a parent to address it or ignore it and move on, but he is close to 70 so he isn’t changing…so maybe HE should move on.

  60. dowhatifeellike says: May 3, 2012 3:22 PM

    Colt is a grown man making millions of dollars and he can take care of himself. Who give a s- what his father says? Yes, Brad McCoy should be upset about what happened, but how he feels should mean absolutely nothing to the Browns.

  61. jenniferxxx says: May 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    Most teams only care if you can play … and are rather unconcerned about your Mom and Dad.

    Maybe this is why the Browns stink?

  62. deathmonkey41 says: May 3, 2012 3:23 PM

    brokea$$lovesmesomeme says:
    May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    Show me a father who would’not do the same-thing?

    Marvin Gaye Sr.?

    Alec Baldwin?

    Ryan O’Neal?

    Shawn Kemp?

    Bing Crosby?

  63. bamabob says: May 3, 2012 3:24 PM

    Wait. There’s an ESPNCleveland.com? Why? Indians, Browns, LeBron-less Cavs and no NHL team.

  64. nflfan87 says: May 3, 2012 3:25 PM

    @Match Point Floppy

    So when is Goodell going to crack down on Cleveland for putting a guy with an obvious concussion back in the game– and then blackballing him for being concerned about his own safety?

    Hypocrite.

    Great Point. The answer is never. The owners tell Goodell what he will and won’t do when it comes to how they treat the players. They won’t let Goodell tax an owner for something as trivial as player safety/retaliation. Only the important stuff like the Redskins/Dallas cap penalties.

  65. matzahballz says: May 3, 2012 3:25 PM

    For starters, I do support the fact that his father voiced his opinion and clearly everyone saw Colt got his bell rung and when asked on the field who he was he said “Batman.” He shouldn’t have gone back in.

    Now, my opinion of Colt McCoy. He is the biggest B**ch in the NFL as a QB. I want my QB to be a leader and respected by his teammates. But ever since he’s been in the league and listening week in and week out to NFL’s SoundFX from him, all he does is whine and complain about how “it’s hard,” or “this is tough” or “I just don’t know.” Certain QB’s that were “the man” in college do not and have not translated to the NFL (ie: Colt McCoy, Colt Brennan, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen and soon to be Kellen Moore).

    McCoy has been given every opportunity to take this franchise, put it on his back and help the Browns in their division. Having Mac Brown fight for him with quotes and now his father shows the complete lack of preparation and motivation it takes to be a starting NFL QB. He’s a back up at BEST and should consider himself lucky to have a job in the NFL. When he decides to MAN UP and show confidence to win over a locker room, then he’ll be taken seriously.

  66. opneon says: May 3, 2012 3:26 PM

    They were under the gun about the concussion screw-up, but shouldn’t have taken it out on the player…
    The Browns’ management is mighty touchy for a team with few touchdowns.

  67. JaminJake says: May 3, 2012 3:26 PM

    GREAT IDEA! Get rid of a QB because his father said the right thing and move to someone who aspires to be the next Kurt Warner(in terms of a late blooming career).

  68. 805_9er says: May 3, 2012 3:27 PM

    Oh, it’ll get better this year with Seneca Wallace mentoring Weeden……… LOL

    This franchise is a farce and should be contracted or moved to Canada…

  69. yahmule says: May 3, 2012 3:28 PM

    Match Point Floppy says:
    May 3, 2012 3:02 PM
    So when is Goodell going to crack down on Cleveland for putting a guy with an obvious concussion back in the game– and then blackballing him for being concerned about his own safety?

    Hypocrite.

    ————

    I’m not sure this will mean Colt gets totally blackballed, but some teams will definitely endorse the “good old boy network” and avoid him in the future.

  70. abengalfan says: May 3, 2012 3:28 PM

    chocopoppy says:
    May 3, 2012 2:58 PM
    awful team, awful city, awful colors, nosepicking fanbase.

    Actually considering the team name I’m thinking they’re picking something else.

  71. thedudesnotin says: May 3, 2012 3:29 PM

    Not sure, if true, and I do say if true, why this should be any different then NFL clubs out there, that will not sign certain players because they want nothing to do with the agents representing them.

    I tend to believe this story is a fabrication, because the guy is still employed by those same Browns.

  72. neemdaddy13 says: May 3, 2012 3:30 PM

    Dear haters,

    The Browns WILL win the AFC North in 2012, with or without Danny McCoy and his daddy. By the way, this happened LAST YEAR.

    Hate on

  73. 81buckeye says: May 3, 2012 3:30 PM

    What his dad says is irrelevant. The Browns will cut him because he has no arm strength and he cant make big league throws. Period. Nothing to do with his old man.

  74. stairwayto7 says: May 3, 2012 3:32 PM

    McCoy is just another over-rated Texas player!

  75. nolarules says: May 3, 2012 3:33 PM

    Florio, stop bringing up stories like this. no way the Browns sent out a player with an obvious concussion to finish a game…Not in Roger’s league.
    Damn video evidence…..
    Holmgren, please report to NYC ASAP for a quit sit down so can get your tongue lashing.

  76. eagles107 says: May 3, 2012 3:34 PM

    Maybe if Colt was better they wouldn’t be so quick to send him packing

  77. discosucs2005 says: May 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    Aren’t people who give a sh*t about their kids just the worst? #sarcasm

  78. rickyhawk88 says: May 3, 2012 3:36 PM

    Hey dayumyou im gona remember you said that & throw it back in your face BAM!!!!

  79. kozmo50 says: May 3, 2012 3:37 PM

    McCoy, a minnow swimming amoungst Sharks.

  80. thraiderskin says: May 3, 2012 3:37 PM

    So in other words, “better not question our terrible decisions, which we make a ton of them, or you will get our childish ire.”
    On a side note, Matzahballz, saying something is difficult or hard is not being a bitch, its admitting that things are going to take lots of work. Colt was not given his fair shot in Cleveland, as I remember, his RB sat out with vaginitas, his WR core consisted of a superb kick returner and his GM is a micromanaging, massively over-rated, past-his-prime, ego maniac. Also, every morning he had to wake up in that crap-hole that is Cleveland. So why don’t you get off you non-knowing, self righteous, pedestal and enjoy your over-the-hill rookie QB that your stupid team took in the first round.

  81. bigwigbob says: May 3, 2012 3:37 PM

    Colt’s father has always been a large pain in the rectum. He was also the one who told Mack Brown that his son was too hurt to re-enter the National Championship game.

    McCoy’s papa thinks that he is the second coming of Archie Manning with the way that he is unable to butt out of his son’s playing career.

  82. jbmartindale says: May 3, 2012 3:38 PM

    This article is ridiculous.

    Can you imagine Holmgren having a list of Pros and Cons on Colt McCoy up on the whiteboard and one of the Cons is “his dad said mean stuff about me”

    Anyone who thinks this is anything more than a slow news day article is a sucker.

  83. jonathanfesler says: May 3, 2012 3:38 PM

    I think the browns have seen enough of Colt McCoy and decided to go another direction! Nothing more!

  84. profootballwalk says: May 3, 2012 3:39 PM

    If my son worked at a factory, and the foreman was causing him to get brain damage, I’d do more than talk to a reporter – I’d call the cops.

    Anyone who disagrees – have someone hit you in the head with a baseball bat, and get back to me.

  85. offkiltereagle says: May 3, 2012 3:40 PM

    chocopoppy says: May 3, 2012 2:58 PM

    How about the L.A. Browns?

    ————————————————————————————————

    They couldn’t use that name because it would be construed as racist towards their latino fanbase

  86. jimmyhake says: May 3, 2012 3:41 PM

    Pretty sure James Harrison was the one who sealed his fate.

  87. borophyll says: May 3, 2012 3:42 PM

    A. Tony Grossi is a hack and has an anti-Browns agenda.

    B. Florio conveniently forgets to mention that McCoy STINKS and this issue about his dad shooting his mouth off is a red herring.

    C. steelbydesign: How can anyone say that another organization wouldn’t do the same thing? The franchises you mention have QBs that don’t STINK AND they’ve never had to deal with a parent shooting off their mouth in the press.

  88. fcs34 says: May 3, 2012 3:43 PM

    The Browns are so pathetic the NFL should have a team of lawyers fly to Cleveland and shut them down to keep them from making the NFL look worse.

  89. blantoncollier says: May 3, 2012 3:44 PM

    Its Tony Grrosi–I lost my job covering the team–and Brad McCoy–I am living my dream through my kid.

    There was no news reported in the story. Just recaps of other stuff and an “observation” that the punter–who was hurt all season–looked fat.

    The only reason there are so many comments is Brad gets his high school team to post things in favor of Colt.

    This is really the silly season.

  90. trubroncfan07 says: May 3, 2012 3:44 PM

    Colt =Soft. That is why the Browns are moving on. Not because of his Dad running his mouth.

  91. geezohman says: May 3, 2012 3:44 PM

    for those naysayers on Colt. I prefer ‘data’.

    Colt was in the top 10 of QBs with pass ‘completions’. As a matter of fact he was #8 in all of the AFC. I believe he was #18 in all the NFL !

    and his receivers STUNK up the place.. yes.. THEY had the one of the worst data for DROPPED passes !

    Had Colt been given someone like the rival Steelers.. Antonio Brown.. 1000 yard receiver and he was a 6 th round pick.

    People amaze me when they give opinions (and not data)… but then opinions are like… belly buttons, every one has one.,

  92. NoobTubeTV says: May 3, 2012 3:45 PM

    Not to mention the guy stating it lost his job because he spoke poorly of Randy “Clueless” Lerner.

    *Angry Cleveland Fan Here*

  93. mungman69 says: May 3, 2012 3:47 PM

    What is the over/under for Browns wins this year?

  94. dawglb says: May 3, 2012 3:48 PM

    Colt’s daddy also advised his son to sit out of the second half of the National Championship Game because he had a lot of money on the line, turning pro…. And, that he didn’t need to risk injury for his college team.

  95. cobrala2 says: May 3, 2012 3:48 PM

    If true the Browns are as simple and petty as it gets.

    No more sympathy for Cleveland from me, now I dislike the Browns!

  96. krimou80 says: May 3, 2012 3:49 PM

    Lets put the whole trading Colt for whatever reason aside for a min…..the big issue that i see is the browns late last year, when they were going now where, put Colt in the game with an apparent head injury back to
    the game,something is not right with this franchise!!!!

  97. dtowndestroyer says: May 3, 2012 3:51 PM

    McCoy’s old man is the reason he’s with the browns! Who else would have drafted a qb who shows no heart or mind of his own in his last college football game. I recall the interview with colt, he wasn’t hurt! He said that his dad advised him to think about his career. Colts father isn’t to blame, colt McCoy just isn’t a real football player. No heart and no mind of his own . I woulnt want him on my roster. I wouldn’t even want him starting on my fav cfl team

  98. jackblackshairyback says: May 3, 2012 3:53 PM

    This is a non-story. It’s a footnote of a daily blog. Anyone who paid attention could tell they didn’t like Colt before thay. While Grossi may have an axe to grind with the team, even he knew by week 4 that Colt wasn’t the qb for them.

  99. riverhorsey says: May 3, 2012 3:54 PM

    I’m usually for the parents staying out of it but in this case McCoys dad had a point. Wtf were the Browns thinking when they put him back in??

    The teams obviously need someone to advise them about matters like that during the game. The kid was out cold just 5 or 10 minutes before they put him back in.

    Don’t have to be a doctor to see that was a major screw up.

  100. 2ndaryinsanity says: May 3, 2012 3:57 PM

    The Browns organization needed to be called out for what they did. One of two things happened: someone on the sideline “dropped the ball” and failed to realize Colt had a concussion (you cannot rely on a player to self-diagnose themselves when they have a head injury); or they pretty much didn’t give a _ _ _ _. Either way, the Browns messed up. This is a blessing in disguise- now Colt has a chance to catch on with a better team.

  101. steeelfann says: May 3, 2012 3:58 PM

    I bet if Tom Brady’s or Peyton Manning’s father whined about their son’s handling, those guys don’t get shipped out.

    Or maybe, Colt is afraid of James Harrison……….

  102. granadafan says: May 3, 2012 4:05 PM

    Pay attention Archie! Let your grown sons speak for themselves.

  103. raider316 says: May 3, 2012 4:07 PM

    Holgrem made his name off of Brett Frave’s back. He’s overrated and has never done anything since. Kinda reminds me of a certain HC in DC

  104. lolb23 says: May 3, 2012 4:11 PM

    The Browns WILL win the AFC North in 2012
    _________________________________

    Surprised to hear Holmgrem’s mom using the name neemdaddy13

  105. rcali says: May 3, 2012 4:17 PM

    How many wins again has Holmgren generated for the Browns for the $20 mil’ he’s been paid so far?

  106. dcpowergator says: May 3, 2012 4:17 PM

    i knew this site jumped the shark when it started sucking up to noted hack tony grossi. then, surprise, grossi ends up on this site. quid pro quo, anybody?

    grossi’s “report” linked here is such schlock you have to wonder how much work the plain dealer editors had to do before his work could appear in the paper.

    what’s hysterical is that the central point grossi and MF want to turn into yet another nontroversy is actually a CONTRADICTION by grossi. his exact words:

    “The comments did not drive the pursuit of a new quarterback, but I believe they contributed to McCoy’s demise.”

    that is absolutely inane. anybody with half a brain, even steelers fans, can see that the “pursuit of a new quarterback” automatically necessitates “mccoy’s demise.” DUH!!!!!!

    so who’s a bigger idiot, tony grossi for writing this garbage or MF for trying to make something out of grossi’s contradictory, moronic observation.

  107. pandebailey says: May 3, 2012 4:17 PM

    Hmmm, can this kind of decision making help explain how the Browns finished 4-12, 5-11, 5-11 and 4-12 the last four years?

  108. dawglbfan says: May 3, 2012 4:19 PM

    The only reason he went back on the field is because HE wanted to. If you followed the story when it actually happened you would know he was asked repeatedly if he was ok and all he did was insist on getting back in the game and said he was fine. If he came back in and threw a couple touchdown passes his daddy would have never said a word. He didn’t play any different the rest of the game than he did in the season leading up to the concussion. THATS WHY HE LOST THE STARTING JOB!

  109. briang123 says: May 3, 2012 4:27 PM

    I remember the BCS Championship Game when Colt McCoy got hurt. Truth is, I thought he wasn’t that hurt and just decided (or his Dad decided for him) that his NFL future wasn’t worth it. I remember them showing his Dad down the tunnel with him and I could not help but think of Carl Lindros. (Flyers’ fans will get that analogy instantly). Colt McCoy stinks, end of story. If he was as good as say Aaron Rodgers, his Dad could have called their management the Fourth Reich and Holmgren the new Hitler and they would not have cared.

  110. hrdcorbengalsfan says: May 3, 2012 4:28 PM

    Not surprised in the least. That’s turdville for you!

  111. skolvikings2011 says: May 3, 2012 4:31 PM

    dawglbfan says:
    May 3, 2012 4:19 PM
    The only reason he went back on the field is because HE wanted to. If you followed the story when it actually happened you would know he was asked repeatedly if he was ok and all he did was insist on getting back in the game and said he was fine. If he came back in and threw a couple touchdown passes his daddy would have never said a word. He didn’t play any different the rest of the game than he did in the season leading up to the concussion. THATS WHY HE LOST THE STARTING JOB!

    ————————————————-

    Disagree. It is the coaches’ & trainers’ who have the final say on who goes in & out of the games. Many times, coaches tell a dazed player to take their pads off, they’re done for the night. I have a hard time believing Colt McCoy had so much sway in Cleveland to override Shurmur et al about staying vs going…

  112. bouchez9393 says: May 3, 2012 4:35 PM

    So….. All u need to do is have your parents say something negative about the browns to have them trade u to a better team? Watch how many parents of browns players start chirping the organization now!!!

  113. johntonioholmes says: May 3, 2012 4:36 PM

    dawglbfan

    It doesn’t matter what Colt wants. There are measures in the NFL to prevent players who suffered a concussion from returning onto the field.

    The Browns didn’t fallow the rules…

  114. bjtmeyer says: May 3, 2012 4:38 PM

    Peyton Hillis was smart not to resign with the Browns.

  115. bullcharger says: May 3, 2012 4:48 PM

    Teams better get used to this kind of behavior from parents. No parent wants a team to put there son at risk due to rules that weren’t properly followed. It would be hard to keep it business like.

    On the other hand, Brady’s dad and Warner’s wife and Manning’s dad have always been yappy to the press. Those guys are good enough that it didn’t matter.

  116. nflofficeadmin says: May 3, 2012 4:55 PM

    deathmonkey41 says:
    May 3, 2012 3:23 PM
    brokea$$lovesmesomeme says:
    May 3, 2012 2:59 PM

    Show me a father who would’not do the same-thing?

    Marvin Gaye Sr.?

    Alec Baldwin?

    Ryan O’Neal?

    Shawn Kemp?

    Bing Crosby?
    —————
    Father of @deathmonkey41?

  117. weareluckytohavemikeflorio says: May 3, 2012 5:01 PM

    this sure casts mike holmgren in a different light i supposed and justifiably so.

  118. skinstidecubsfan says: May 3, 2012 5:03 PM

    who wants to play on a team that plays in the toilet bowl city of the league besides philadelphia
    anyway? at least philly does have a decent team,unlike cleveland who will always stink!

  119. theandy59 says: May 3, 2012 5:05 PM

    This is a little ridiculous. If Colt McCoy played the position like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, et al, the Browns wouldn’t care if his dad was protesting outside the stadium every day with 8 foot tall signs. He’s not the starter because he’s not good enough.

  120. lbcoach34 says: May 3, 2012 5:10 PM

    What did he “sound off” about???

    How weak his arm strength is, and that he can;t make all the throws in CLE weather?

    It’s all about performance – period.

  121. jerruhjones says: May 3, 2012 5:14 PM

    Tony Grossi is a bitter idiot who was run off as a local covering the Browns. I’m sure that’s not clouding his judgement.

  122. bigtimebrownie says: May 3, 2012 5:16 PM

    So I’ve been a Browns fan for about 40 years…basically my whole life…I’m now questioning the meaning of life….

    We’re offensive geniuses, right? We go and draft Colt McCoy on Holmgren’s direction…to good to pass up…plus my system’s genius, man…too good to fail…

    Fast forward, the kid gets thrown under the bus and we’re going to have a pout fest because they put him back in a game AFTER a concussion and the kid’s completely irrelevant-to-the-team father speaks up?

    Epilogue: We’re offensive geniuses so we draft a qb at pick 22 that would have easily been there at 37…he’s 28…but we’re geniuses, system’s too good to fail…

    I’m gonna start watching golf.

  123. olcap says: May 3, 2012 5:22 PM

    If you ask me Colt is the lucky one, and good for his dad. They’re probably relieved for him to be out of there, since it’s obvious that the structure in Cleveland doesn’t think much of player safety, even though it’s been a MAJOR center of attention for at least the past three years.

    This also, by association, makes both the NFL and NFLPA look very bad and complacent.

  124. stairwayto7 says: May 3, 2012 5:27 PM

    neemdaddy13 says:May 3, 2012 3:30 PM

    Dear haters,

    The Browns WILL win the AFC North in 2012, with or without Danny McCoy and his daddy. By the way, this happened LAST YEAR
    ——————————————————–

    Cellar dweller Browns! ANother 5 win season..AT BEST!

  125. thetooloftools says: May 3, 2012 5:45 PM

    Our Browns cannot get out of their own way. Holmgren (Jabba The Hut) is a joke. he says the plan was always “to build though the draft”. Yea… Really? Then why the first year you were here you paid $8 million to Jake Dellholme? Freakin’ idiots. The Browns are a mess. I wish Colt only the best and I do hope he leaves us here in Cleveland. HE DESERVES BETTER !
    I can’t wait to see who ANY QB that follows him is going to throw too. We have the most pathetic receiving corps in the NFL.
    Good Luck Colt.
    I believe in you and know you will do well.
    Keep after it !

  126. phillyforlife says: May 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    @bchapman2011
    As a matter of fact NBC should be told about this, maybe a campaign to let other views be posted, yes that’s what we should do email NBC sports in droves.

  127. sdffa11 says: May 3, 2012 5:51 PM

    the browns have no one to blame but themselves.

  128. phillyforlife says: May 3, 2012 5:56 PM

    zapped another

  129. highjak78 says: May 3, 2012 5:58 PM

    (sigh) I hate having to do this, but all you haters need to realize that if Colt was worth a damn as a starting QB, his dad could have smacked Holmgren in the mouth with his johnson and he would still have a starting job. Colt showed last season that he was average at best. While I don’t think much of Holmgren (blowhard), the organization decided to move on based on performance, which as I said before was at best average. Colt is a good kid – he’s just not a starter in the NFL. He should be THANKING the Browns for giving him the opportunity to prove otherwise. By the way, he came to the sideline and only said his hand hurt. Why doesn’t anyone question the “almighty” Steelers when they put Pig Ben back in the game against the Browns when he thought he had a broken leg??? Answer is simple: idiots like piling on, and the media for some effing reason loves to hate on Cleveland… no matter what happens. We draft arguably the best player in the whole draft (Richardson) and still get criticized…

  130. bigdawgy54 says: May 3, 2012 6:05 PM

    Brad McCoy should have kept his mouth, “shut!” I understand the concern. However, he should have handled it through proper channels, like Colt’s agent. Having “daddy,” run to his defense sounds like peewee ball.
    Colt is a man working for the Browns. Daddy should not have interfered between the man and his employer. It would have appeared much better had the agent stood up for Colt and did the talking.
    With that all said, I think McCoy’s play or the lack thereof sealed his fate. He lacks the talent, period. I don’t believe that Brad McCoy’s imprudence resulted in his boy being subordinated.

  131. macker1283 says: May 3, 2012 6:08 PM

    I’m pretty sure I read an article on this website about Brian Daboll thinking McCoy was pampered growing up and being extra hard on him. His dad criticizing his employer when he is a grown man tends to support that charge.

  132. amaf21 says: May 3, 2012 6:17 PM

    The Browns should be held criminally negligent for putting him back into that game!

  133. jimmysee says: May 3, 2012 6:25 PM

    “They’re all our sons!”

    —All My Sons— by Arthur Miller

  134. tdk24 says: May 3, 2012 6:33 PM

    When is James Harrison going to get suspended for a whole season? He should have been suspended for a year just for the hit on Colt, not to mention the guy does that every week. Oh, does he need to do it to Lord Favre in order to get suspended for a year?

  135. pacodawg says: May 3, 2012 6:46 PM

    Sure, if Brady plyed for the Browns his career would be over right? McCoy has a noodle arm and is not durable enough. Name 1 other team that he could start for. Zero.

  136. seldom1 says: May 3, 2012 6:54 PM

    Now you have some idea of why Grossi had to be let go by the Plain Dealer. Cheap shots at the Browns’ management always was his trademark, starting when Bill Belichick wouldn’t kis his beat writer ring.

  137. threedeep1998 says: May 3, 2012 6:57 PM

    How old is McCoy? Has anyone ever checked his birth certificate? Dude looks 15 tops

  138. gridassassin says: May 3, 2012 7:01 PM

    Ah yes… Cleveland – the only NFL city never to host or have their team play in a Super Bowl.

    Keeping that tradition alive!

  139. mrfrostyj says: May 3, 2012 7:06 PM

    Wasn’t Grossi the guy that got canned for accidentally tweeting how much he dislikes the Browns ownership?

    So with that out of the way I bet he’s as unbiased about Browns management as a Fox news crew at an Obama rally (or the Daily Show reporting on the republican primary to avoid bias).

  140. Deb says: May 3, 2012 7:21 PM

    Don’t agree with how the Browns have handled Colt. He wasn’t responsible for the Hillis debacle, which played a major factor in the Browns’ decline last year from the year before. I was one of the kid’s chief critics when he came out because he appeared so fragile–largely because his father, also his longtime coach, kept stepping in and pulling him out of games when his injuries were questionable. Colt finally got a chance to prove his toughness in the pros and won me over. And there goes Dear Old Dad again.

    Yes, the Browns screwed him. Yes, he should have been pulled from the Steelers game–or at least given a cursory concussion exam on the sidelines. But that is a MAN and an NFL player. It’s high time his dad stayed out of his business and let him do his own talking.

  141. wpgguy says: May 3, 2012 7:23 PM

    Move on.

    I have not watched enough of McCoy to say how he has progressed or not. And before I agreed with the “not camp”, I would question the talent he had around him.

    I remember seeing the big hit, and couldn’t believe how bad he was rocked. The fact he was in a few plays later was disgraceful.

    Maybe his old man should keep his mouth shut. But if his old man didn’t say it, Colt McCoy should have.

    It’s too bad because even with Weeden, Colt would be a great fit as a 1a/b starter, and a mentor. Even if his play isn’t stellar he knows the system and has acclimated to the NFL game. His salary compared to Wallace is a steal.

    But once again, logic is cast aside. Him staying in CLE just won’t work at this point.

    Ideally he should land on a good team, with a good supporting cast as a legitimate #2. Get some stability and work on his game with a new system, coach and teammates. Be patient and just wait for his opportunity to show what he can do.

    Both sides should just move on.

  142. jumpgo692003 says: May 3, 2012 7:48 PM

    Im sorry but anyone who knows Grossi at all knows that he has an agenda towards the Browns since being dismissed from the Plain Dealer (local paper) thanks to some slanted journalism the Browns took offense to. Since they have some significant influence in the local paper, they were able to assure his dismissal. Fair? Probably not. Still, the agenda is clear.

    What most here are doing is taking Grossi’s words (who has absolutely no sources at all in the Browns organization,…remember alienated) and turning them into facts. Grossi does have an agenda and it fits his agenda to paint the organization as bad and this is but one example of it. He is constantly doing it and will do it long after this story. He has an agenda, trust me.

    Now about Colt. No organization is going to dismiss or demote a player because his daddy talked to the media about a concussion. Colt may have been called to a meeting asking for those type of events not to happen as things should be addressed “in-house” but it certainly isnt the reason he may be potentially demoted to backup.

    The reason he is likely to be demoted? He has had 2 full seasons to produce and prove he could be the franchise qb. He has actually regressed after a rather promising rookie season. While I do think having better receivers, an o-line and a workhorse stud rb would certainly have helped,….there are some things that were rather glaring that deficiencies in the other area DID NOT create. He constantly stared down his receivers, could NOT put any touch on a deep ball or even a mid range. He could not read a defense at all and would constantly resort to throwing to his rb or te 3 yards out when the replay would CLEARLY show there were receivers WIDE OPEN. I just think the transition to the speed of the NFL has not worked out so far for him and the Browns are starving for wins now. He wont improve much with a better line or receivers as he is not able to get the ball downfield on time. So unless the Browns expect to win every game with 3 yard dump offs and handoffs then they needed to accept him as game manager and continue looking for their franchise qb. They believe they found that in Weeden. We shall see.

    McCoy was not done wrong. The injustice was putting him back in the game the day of his concussion without having him checked out. The Browns should have been fined for that. His dad has every right to be concerned but would have been better served talking to the FO 1 on 1 on that to show his concern.

    If anything, the Browns are the reason Colt even had a chance to make a name for himself in the NFL.

    Three rounds into the draft (and very deep into round 3) was when the Browns drafted him. This means EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL DID NOT THINK HE WAS STARTING MATERIAL.

    The Browns afforded him the opportunity to start through injury VERY QUICKLY and with his opportunity he showed what he can do. He is a good leader, a good kid, certainly has fight and perserverance but he lacks key qualities I think are needed in the AFCN especially. You must be able to read a defense, you must be able to throw downfield on time and you must be able to audible (which he couldnt do).

    So while I would have no problem if the FO felt like they are willing to continue with the McCoy project, I definitely understand why they moved forward with someone with a different skillset for the answer.

  143. TxGrown says: May 3, 2012 7:59 PM

    So with that out of the way I bet he’s as unbiased about Browns management as a Fox news crew at an Obama rally (or the Daily Show reporting on the republican primary to avoid bias).
    ============================================================

    Or….as unbiased as msnbc and liberal type ” gotta bring politics into everything” posters.

  144. ubummer says: May 3, 2012 8:07 PM

    Don’t upstage the Big Show.

  145. toolkien says: May 3, 2012 8:28 PM

    Holgrem made his name off of Brett Frave’s back. He’s overrated and has never done anything since. Kinda reminds me of a certain HC in DC

    __________________________

    I guess making another Super Bowl with a former Favre backup in Hasselbeck is “nothing”? Only 28 men have coached Super Bowl champions, and only FOUR have ever taken more than one team to the Super Bowl, and Holmgren is one of them.

    The truth is Holmgren’s system made Favre who he was. It was the same system that Sherman picked up and ran during his time in Green Bay (having been Holmgren’s OC in Seattle), and almost exactly the same system Childress brought to Minnesota (from Philadelphia where Reid coached, a former Holmgren assistant) and that’s a big part of the reason Favre wanted to go Minnesota – the familiar system.

    It was Holmgren who coached up Steve Young to get the “rabbit” of his blood, and it was Holmgren who finally found a way to drill a hole in Favre’s extra thick skull and let the WCO sun shine in. Without Holmgren, Favre would have been Bubby Brister 2.0 AT BEST.

    But as far as a GM or executive, Holmgren has, so far, proven to not be all that great. He spun his wheels in Seattle for two years, but once he brought Ted Thompson in from Green Bay to oversee player personnel, the Seahawks began their best run ever. And once Ted Thompson left Seattle began to sink off the charts (while having returned to Green Bay to be GM, well….).

  146. ballboy48 says: May 3, 2012 9:02 PM

    I think it’s funny how the Bengals fans talk smack about the Browns, yet they can’t get enough fans to show up to their games, even with a winning record. Instead of who dey, they should be singing where dey?! My son’s youth football team gets more fans at his game, than they do at Paul Brown Stadium!

  147. sdisme says: May 3, 2012 9:03 PM

    Every person watching that game new Colt had a concussion.

    If his father didn’t say anything the media should/would have.

  148. pdma7 says: May 3, 2012 9:08 PM

    Mike Holmgren and Brad McCoy should do what hockey dads in the stands do and just fight.

  149. vegassuper says: May 3, 2012 9:09 PM

    Wow, my first comment ever on this site…flamed!
    Interesting since people are commenting how overly sensitive the Browns management is. No profanity, barely critical at all. Talk about sensitive!

  150. kappy32 says: May 3, 2012 9:12 PM

    Colt McCoy is a bitch. Out of all the QBs to come out of his draft class, I pegged him as the most likely to be a bust & career backup, at best. This kid has absolutely no heart or toughness either. If you remember his final year at Texas, they were facing Alabama in the BCS Championship Game. Colt took a light hit in the 1st quarter & got a “stinger” which resulted in him sitting the rest of the game. Texas was stuck playing true freshman Garrett Gilbert & got dominated in probably the WORST BCS Championship Game ever. Stories came out soon after the game that he was cleared by the Longhorns’ doctors & trainers to return, but Colt’s daddy stepped in & made the decision that Colt wasn’t playing the rest of the game. He wasn’t at risk of being injured any further, however his Daddy was concerned that if Colt played at anything less than 100%, he would not perform at a high level & would look bad for scouts at the game. Colt & his Daddy were more concerned about protecting Colt’s draft status than they were about competing & possibly winning the biggest prize in college football. The little punk allows his Daddy to have way too much say in his career & the dude needs to grow up. The Browns should be happy about Colt’s daddy pissing them off because they are a million times better with Brandon Weeden than they ever would have been with McCoy. The only real knock on Weeden is his age, which is a legitimate knock, however the kid can play. Weeden can make every throw that is needed ti be a solid NFL QB & even though he played in a shotgun, spread option offense at Oklahoma State, he has made some serious strides in his 3/5/7 step drops & may just be the most NFL-ready rookie QB besides Andrew Luck. His age, 28 (29 in October), will most likely result in him playing only 7-8 years, however his age is also an asset in that he is much more mature than the other rookie QBs. Mark my words right here, and I am very rarely wrong about these QB predictions: Brandon Weeden will have a better career than RGIII both statistically & team success. RGIII is one of the most overrated QBs to come out of college in a LONG time & the comparisons to Cam Newton are baseless & will be proven frivolous very quickly. The only similarity between Griffin & Newton is their skin color. Based upon combine numbers & visual proof, Luck is the one who possesses the closest athletic similarities to Newton; and Luck has a better arm, is more accurate, has been playing in a pro-style offense for 4 years and, most importantly, has been calling his own plays & audibling at the line after reading coverages & formations of the defense for 2 full years. Bye bye, Colt. Don’t let the door hit your a$$ on the way out. Browns fans should be ecstatic because with Colt gone, they have the second best QB in this draft ready to start for them. Holmgren has always known what he’s doing.

  151. tonyromoisterrible says: May 3, 2012 9:44 PM

    COlt McCoy and his daddy need to just go away.

  152. whodeydaytonchapter says: May 3, 2012 9:52 PM

    BS. that is the first time a parent has expressed concern for their kid? that is a stupid argument.

  153. couldntthinkofaname says: May 3, 2012 10:02 PM

    whatnojets says:
    May 3, 2012 2:55 PM

    Now I know why everyone hates the Cleveland Browns!!

    ____________________________

    Try living amongst them, Whatnojets…..

    This is the same fan base that ripped Colt for the interception he threw right after almost getting his head knocked off.

  154. couldntthinkofaname says: May 3, 2012 10:07 PM

    dejan36 says:
    May 3, 2012 3:01 PM

    a) well he did not say anything about having concussion. He said that his arm was hurt
    b) No organization likes their own employees to publicly criticize them.
    c) next time, he should man up and stand for himself. Don’t have your father criticizing the organization for you
    _______________________________

    Yeah, it wasn’t like Colt looked like he had just dropped acid or anything. And it’s not like any player would try to go back in the game no matter what. And it’s not like anybody on the coaching staff saw the hit…. And it’s not like your worthless fan base would have shredded him if he had taken himself out.

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……hold on……….

    That’s why you don’t leave the decision to the player. You people will say ANYTHING to piss on McCoy and defend your Arena league team.

  155. brownoholic says: May 3, 2012 10:50 PM

    Awww, nothing like reading comments from casual NFL fans who only know the Browns stink and thats about it.

    If you believe Colt’s daddy influenced any decisions by the Browns’ front office, I have a bridge to sell you. Good lord, being reported by Tony Grossi w/ no sources, as usual, would clinch it for anyone who knows anything about the factory of sadness . . .

    Non-story made up by Grossi and posted here by his good pal, Florio . . .

  156. josenosabe says: May 4, 2012 12:50 AM

    It’s obvious from Florio’s accent that he is from the Pittsburgh area, and I’m guessing he is a Steelers fan, which makes sense considering his biased articles against the Browns. I know rivalry sucks these days, because the Browns do, but it wasn’t always this way, and Florio probably grew up hating the Browns and Cleveland. Old habits die hard, but it’s silly to allow it to make you post such pitiful drivel propaganda against Cleveland, Florio.

  157. dawgtown86 says: May 4, 2012 11:33 AM

    Hey Florio did I miss the part that didn’t sound like speculative hearsay by a bitter ‘journalist’ or DID GROSSI TWEET THAT TO YOU?

    Grossi reputation is a joke in Cleveland and your interpretation of Holmgren’s call to ticket holder’s in MANY articles here (and now this) was not only misguided but placing you in the same camp as Grossi. Is it Holmgren or the Browns as an organization that you have a problem with?

  158. Deb says: May 4, 2012 11:44 AM

    josenosabe says:

    It’s obvious from Florio’s accent that he is from the Pittsburgh area, and I’m guessing he is a Steelers fan, which makes sense considering his biased articles against the Browns. I know rivalry sucks these days, because the Browns do, but it wasn’t always this way, and Florio probably grew up hating the Browns and Cleveland. Old habits die hard, but it’s silly to allow it to make you post such pitiful drivel propaganda against Cleveland, Florio.
    ———————————————–
    Okay. Now what explains all his nasty articles about the Steelers?

  159. vbev63 says: May 4, 2012 12:44 PM

    Before anyone takes this story to the bank, you should consider the source. Tony sees things quieting down about dumping Colt, so he has to stir up an old story again in hopes this one will be the one to get Colt shipped out of town because he can’t stand him. Tony is the worst kind of reporter when he gets it in for someone.

  160. chalkruz1989 says: May 4, 2012 3:10 PM

    This is just another example of why it’s hard to say some quarterback are/were busts. If you throw a young quarterback to the wolves while equipping him with puppies what do you expect to happen? Tim Couch had a platoon of misfits, Matt Leinart had zero help for offensive line, Jason Campbell playing with 18 different coordinators, Alex Smith having buffoons as coaches early on. Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russel, and Akili Smith etc fit into the latter, just bad habits that crushed their chances. Colt McCoy will greatly benefit from sitting behind a veteran, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, all of the best players have taken that route.

  161. csszrr says: May 5, 2012 12:18 AM

    You insult the people, the weather, the lake, the people, the fans who were suckers punched. The people who nursemaided the game you people purport to support and love. From the 40 to facemask the Cleveland Browns have done more for football than your Panthers or Jaguars or Jets. Those who wete so identified with the team that they kept those “ugly” colors. The Browns faithful carry on suffering within while cheering for garbage. But we are the classless ones because the home of Pro Football represting the greatest inovator the game has known demands–dares to it would seem–a winner in exchange for our peerless passion. We were your contempt like a badge and will be so kind as to remind you of the most Newtonian fact known to humans: karma bitch.

  162. pantherdan says: May 5, 2012 1:19 AM

    COME ON GUYS…HIS DAD STILL WIPES HIM!

  163. jimbo75025 says: May 9, 2012 11:13 AM

    mvp43 says:May 3, 2012 3:21 PM

    Other than 1 Super Bowl with the Packers in ’96, Holmgren has done Squat……..
    _________

    Eh, he got Seattle into the playoffs consistently which has historically been dificult for anyone to do. Of course that was only after his GM duties were taken away I believe.

    I view him kind of like Parcells-made his bones in one place and gets by on that reputation alone.

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