Other than 1 Super Bowl with the Packers in ’96, Holmgren has done Squat……..
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Eh, he got Seattle into the playoffs consistently which has historically been dificult for anyone to do. Of course that was only after his GM duties were taken away I believe.

I view him kind of like Parcells-made his bones in one place and gets by on that reputation alone.

It’s obvious from Florio’s accent that he is from the Pittsburgh area, and I’m guessing he is a Steelers fan, which makes sense considering his biased articles against the Browns. I know rivalry sucks these days, because the Browns do, but it wasn’t always this way, and Florio probably grew up hating the Browns and Cleveland. Old habits die hard, but it’s silly to allow it to make you post such pitiful drivel propaganda against Cleveland, Florio.
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Okay. Now what explains all his nasty articles about the Steelers?

Grossi reputation is a joke in Cleveland and your interpretation of Holmgren’s call to ticket holder’s in MANY articles here (and now this) was not only misguided but placing you in the same camp as Grossi. Is it Holmgren or the Browns as an organization that you have a problem with?

If you believe Colt’s daddy influenced any decisions by the Browns’ front office, I have a bridge to sell you. Good lord, being reported by Tony Grossi w/ no sources, as usual, would clinch it for anyone who knows anything about the factory of sadness . . .

Non-story made up by Grossi and posted here by his good pal, Florio . . .

a) well he did not say anything about having concussion. He said that his arm was hurt
b) No organization likes their own employees to publicly criticize them.
c) next time, he should man up and stand for himself. Don’t have your father criticizing the organization for you
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Yeah, it wasn’t like Colt looked like he had just dropped acid or anything. And it’s not like any player would try to go back in the game no matter what. And it’s not like anybody on the coaching staff saw the hit…. And it’s not like your worthless fan base would have shredded him if he had taken himself out.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……hold on……….

That’s why you don’t leave the decision to the player. You people will say ANYTHING to piss on McCoy and defend your Arena league team.

Now I know why everyone hates the Cleveland Browns!!

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Try living amongst them, Whatnojets…..

This is the same fan base that ripped Colt for the interception he threw right after almost getting his head knocked off.

If his father didn’t say anything the media should/would have.

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I guess making another Super Bowl with a former Favre backup in Hasselbeck is “nothing”? Only 28 men have coached Super Bowl champions, and only FOUR have ever taken more than one team to the Super Bowl, and Holmgren is one of them.

The truth is Holmgren’s system made Favre who he was. It was the same system that Sherman picked up and ran during his time in Green Bay (having been Holmgren’s OC in Seattle), and almost exactly the same system Childress brought to Minnesota (from Philadelphia where Reid coached, a former Holmgren assistant) and that’s a big part of the reason Favre wanted to go Minnesota – the familiar system.

It was Holmgren who coached up Steve Young to get the “rabbit” of his blood, and it was Holmgren who finally found a way to drill a hole in Favre’s extra thick skull and let the WCO sun shine in. Without Holmgren, Favre would have been Bubby Brister 2.0 AT BEST.

But as far as a GM or executive, Holmgren has, so far, proven to not be all that great. He spun his wheels in Seattle for two years, but once he brought Ted Thompson in from Green Bay to oversee player personnel, the Seahawks began their best run ever. And once Ted Thompson left Seattle began to sink off the charts (while having returned to Green Bay to be GM, well….).

Or….as unbiased as msnbc and liberal type ” gotta bring politics into everything” posters.

What most here are doing is taking Grossi’s words (who has absolutely no sources at all in the Browns organization,…remember alienated) and turning them into facts. Grossi does have an agenda and it fits his agenda to paint the organization as bad and this is but one example of it. He is constantly doing it and will do it long after this story. He has an agenda, trust me.

Now about Colt. No organization is going to dismiss or demote a player because his daddy talked to the media about a concussion. Colt may have been called to a meeting asking for those type of events not to happen as things should be addressed “in-house” but it certainly isnt the reason he may be potentially demoted to backup.

The reason he is likely to be demoted? He has had 2 full seasons to produce and prove he could be the franchise qb. He has actually regressed after a rather promising rookie season. While I do think having better receivers, an o-line and a workhorse stud rb would certainly have helped,….there are some things that were rather glaring that deficiencies in the other area DID NOT create. He constantly stared down his receivers, could NOT put any touch on a deep ball or even a mid range. He could not read a defense at all and would constantly resort to throwing to his rb or te 3 yards out when the replay would CLEARLY show there were receivers WIDE OPEN. I just think the transition to the speed of the NFL has not worked out so far for him and the Browns are starving for wins now. He wont improve much with a better line or receivers as he is not able to get the ball downfield on time. So unless the Browns expect to win every game with 3 yard dump offs and handoffs then they needed to accept him as game manager and continue looking for their franchise qb. They believe they found that in Weeden. We shall see.

McCoy was not done wrong. The injustice was putting him back in the game the day of his concussion without having him checked out. The Browns should have been fined for that. His dad has every right to be concerned but would have been better served talking to the FO 1 on 1 on that to show his concern.

If anything, the Browns are the reason Colt even had a chance to make a name for himself in the NFL.

Three rounds into the draft (and very deep into round 3) was when the Browns drafted him. This means EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL DID NOT THINK HE WAS STARTING MATERIAL.

The Browns afforded him the opportunity to start through injury VERY QUICKLY and with his opportunity he showed what he can do. He is a good leader, a good kid, certainly has fight and perserverance but he lacks key qualities I think are needed in the AFCN especially. You must be able to read a defense, you must be able to throw downfield on time and you must be able to audible (which he couldnt do).

So while I would have no problem if the FO felt like they are willing to continue with the McCoy project, I definitely understand why they moved forward with someone with a different skillset for the answer.

I have not watched enough of McCoy to say how he has progressed or not. And before I agreed with the “not camp”, I would question the talent he had around him.

I remember seeing the big hit, and couldn’t believe how bad he was rocked. The fact he was in a few plays later was disgraceful.

Maybe his old man should keep his mouth shut. But if his old man didn’t say it, Colt McCoy should have.

It’s too bad because even with Weeden, Colt would be a great fit as a 1a/b starter, and a mentor. Even if his play isn’t stellar he knows the system and has acclimated to the NFL game. His salary compared to Wallace is a steal.

But once again, logic is cast aside. Him staying in CLE just won’t work at this point.

Ideally he should land on a good team, with a good supporting cast as a legitimate #2. Get some stability and work on his game with a new system, coach and teammates. Be patient and just wait for his opportunity to show what he can do.

Both sides should just move on.

Yes, the Browns screwed him. Yes, he should have been pulled from the Steelers game–or at least given a cursory concussion exam on the sidelines. But that is a MAN and an NFL player. It’s high time his dad stayed out of his business and let him do his own talking.

So with that out of the way I bet he’s as unbiased about Browns management as a Fox news crew at an Obama rally (or the Daily Show reporting on the republican primary to avoid bias).

Keeping that tradition alive!