Comments on: Colts hope to use two, and even three, tight ends http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 00:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: luckytohaveluck http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1771195 Tue, 08 May 2012 00:16:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1771195 Actually the Colts offensive line wasnt that terrible. Protected the QB and ran the ball better than the last few years with Peyton. Of course, only Colts fans know this, because we actually watched their games. Bad QB play killed them. I see alot of jealous people who rip on Luck already. Luck is special. I will take the word of pro scouts over some random fan.

]]> By: xli2006 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1768167 Sun, 06 May 2012 15:24:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1768167 Some questioned the move, but to take the Top 2 TEs in the draft is a huge addition for Luck and Offense.

Wayne / Collie / Fleener / Allen / Hilton / Brazill could be a solid group to start with. The TEs will help along the line and are mobile enough to help block in the flat. 2 solid players who could be a dangerous 1/2 punch for a long time.

]]> By: 69firebird http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1768066 Sun, 06 May 2012 14:13:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1768066 They are also seeking special permission to have 3 centers and a total of 33 players on offense lined up against 11 defenders on hopes they can win at least 2 games this season.

]]> By: illiniftw http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767994 Sun, 06 May 2012 13:13:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767994 Imagine Tebow in a 4-5 TE set. Call it the steam roll package! -disclaimer: 2 year old kept me up all night so I’m not responsible for any ideas I have right now

]]> By: chrisjohnston10 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767967 Sun, 06 May 2012 12:43:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767967 Tom Brady is a master of the no huddle and this is part of the reason why the Patriots have so much success on offense. The defenses have to try and match up against those TEs while being tired and unorganized. I highly doubt the Colts are going to be as effective as the Patriots with their TE formations.

]]> By: randallflagg52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767965 Sun, 06 May 2012 12:27:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767965 @rabidbillsfan

Yeah Luck has the ability to check at the line, in college and against crappy pac 12 defenses. This is the big boy league, lets hold off before annoiting him…

And you do realize that the Stanford offense ran the ball almost 66% of the time per game, and always established the playaction before Luck started slinging the ball? Indy doesn’t have anything close to the power running game Stanford had so let’s see how Luck fares slinging out of the gate as opposed to having an already established running game.

]]> By: cuda1234 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767945 Sun, 06 May 2012 11:36:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767945 Are you sure Pagano got the idea from New England?

My guess is that it came with him from Baltimore where they have been using it with some success for several years.

]]> By: brenenostler http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767899 Sun, 06 May 2012 08:28:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767899 I was shocked when they drafted a second tight end instead of a linebacker, but now it makes a lot of sense. Drafting the top two tight ends will give us the Gronkowski-Hernandez effect.

Colts will be a dominant team again by 2014.

]]> By: exibitsman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767898 Sun, 06 May 2012 08:27:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767898 who cares the damm colts will only win 2 games
this year anyways

]]> By: rabidbillsfan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767886 Sun, 06 May 2012 07:35:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767886 To the genius who mentions blitzing as the remedy to this formation… Do you run blitz or blitz the QB? Those would be to completly diffrent defensive calls and they would yield horrendous results if called improperly. Luck has the ability to check at the line of scrimmage, something some Veteran QB’S cant even do. If he can read one defensive player, it will yield positive results for this offense. If they can pull this together, this could be a more balanced and unstoppable attack then the Pats. Don’t believe me? All teams have loaded up with smaller guys to combat the multiple wide-out sets, that means running with essentially 8 OL on the field, regardless of blocking abilities. High percentage throws to TE and some precise routes run by Wayne, and Luck will make Indy fans say “Peyton who?” Sooner then anyone expected.

]]> By: randallflagg52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767881 Sun, 06 May 2012 07:01:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767881 “Oh yeah”, said Bill Belichick on Pagano’s plan, “next season we will start using 4 or 5 TE’s per game. In fact we have several packages where we exclusivly use tight ends. No quarter back, no running back, no lineman. How do you stop that? It’s a matchup nightmare”.

]]> By: coachbeck http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767876 Sun, 06 May 2012 06:53:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767876 Who is gonna be the running back for luck? Lol

]]> By: ortonwhiskeycrew http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767858 Sun, 06 May 2012 06:04:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767858 problem is these guys are not gronk and hernandez.

]]> By: gridironking34 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767857 Sun, 06 May 2012 06:02:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767857 Luck is probably going to need those two to three tight ends to stay in and block… he’s still a rookie in the NFL and that offensive line isn’t exactly top notch.

]]> By: Fantasy Football Legend http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767774 Sun, 06 May 2012 03:57:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767774 This is a silly plan, but really Colts have no one else to pass to. Wayne is just getting a check and waiting to retire. Garcon is gone and White and Collie are no Welker.

]]> By: upyoursnfu http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767773 Sun, 06 May 2012 03:56:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767773 Arians will have him throwing a dozen bubble screens a game

]]> By: gpclaw http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767746 Sun, 06 May 2012 03:22:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767746 Good plan. The only major flaw, is Bruce Arians as the OC.

]]> By: y5nthon5a http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767737 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:59:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767737 TeamBalco says:
May 5, 2012 10:31 PM
Reggie Wayne should have channeled his inner LeBron. These tight end formations are NOT wide receiver friendly.

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Yeah, especially when Wes Welker was horrible last year with 2 great tight ends last year. 122 receptions, 1500 yards, 9 touchdowns are all horrid stats. (all career highs except the receptions)…

Reggie Wayne will probably “suffer” the same way…

]]> By: canetic http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767734 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:55:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767734 0-16 no matter how you slice it

]]> By: blacknole08 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767733 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:54:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767733 Sounds like the Colts are gonna be doing alot of play action this season in two/three tight end sets. But without a consistent running game that also means teams will probably playing alot of spying/zone coverage on Luck. Plus Luck has the brains of Peyton Manning and legs like Aaron Rodgers, at least according to ESPN (probably).

Bottom line is Luck, like Peyton before him, will struggle in his rookie season. Colts are still a bad team and are transitioning to a new defense. This may take a few years to repair.

]]> By: randallflagg52 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767730 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:49:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767730 I have a problem calling a lot of these guys TE’s. They’re more big wide outs these days. Few can block and catch (Vernon Davis and maybe Gronk being the exception).

IMO opposing defenses will counter this by blitzing the crap out of Luck. I don’t care how touted a QB is, if he gets hit early and often in his career he will bust, and the Colt’s OL ain’t exactally stellar. David Carr and possibly Sam Bradford (we’ll see after this season) are perfect examples of how a young QB can be ruined by pressure. Marc Bulger is an example too but he was a vet before the rams OL went to pieces.

For all of Luck’s “greatness” he’s still a rookie and will not come in playing like a seasoned vet, especially considering that team is in full on rebuild mode.

]]> By: ddeck00 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767722 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:34:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767722 “Why was this news again?”

I feel like I have seen comments like this all day today. This isnt “really important football news .com” It’s. PFT. Pro football talk.

We are still talking about pro football teams right ?

]]> By: burm61 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767720 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:33:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767720 It sounds like a good idea… until you line it up and realize you don’t have Aaron Hernandez or Gronkowski

]]> By: TeamBalco http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767718 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:31:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767718 Reggie Wayne should have channeled his inner LeBron. These tight end formations are NOT wide receiver friendly.

]]> By: roygerela http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767711 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:19:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767711 It is gonna be a bunch set offense like Arians ran in Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

God, I’m glad to have a progressive coach like Haley.

]]> By: rcunningham http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767707 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:16:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767707 Whatever it takes to give Luck some safe/fallback options.

]]> By: ravensfansc http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767705 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:16:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767705 I like this idea a lot, big targets for the rookie.

]]> By: mungman69 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767704 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:15:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767704 No one said that these tight ends
can play

]]> By: ravensfansc http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767702 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:14:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767702 I actually think this is a really good idea. Big targets for the rookie makes for an easier transition.

]]> By: jr4real http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/#comment-1767700 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:11:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=681383#comment-1767700 KW1 and Dave Casper wont help this team with “trips right swing pass” Arians as your OC.

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