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Roethlisberger graduates from college, nine years after leaving

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Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has turned his life around in the last 24 months.  He’s married, and he somehow has gotten back in the good graces of Steelers fans who were ready in 2010 to run him out of town.

And now Roethlisberger has graduated from Miami (Ohio) University, nine years after leaving the school.

Per the Associated Press, Roethlisberger joined 600 classmates on Sunday in Oxford, Ohio, donning a extra-large gown and an extra-extra-large cap and receiving, um, a sheepskin.

Roethlisberger was four courses short of a degree in education when he left for the NFL, and an associate dean said that Roethlisberger had picked up the remaining credits over the last several years.

Though it makes sense to finish what he started and display evidence that he has become a responsible adult, does anyone think he’ll become a teacher when he quits playing football?  “Getting a degree” is part of the con of college football, especially as it relates to guys who go on to earn a crapload of money playing in the NFL.  Roethlisberger makes more in one game than many teachers make in a decade.  If he ever needs to actually use the degree, it will mean that he has completely squandered millions and millions of dollars.

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  1. aaawall91 says: May 6, 2012 7:59 PM

    I was attending the local middle school part of the time he was at Miami and the football team came to our school to read to us or something, he came off as a bit off an assclown then to us middle schoolers…can’t imagine him attempting to do real teaching.

    Love and Honor to Miami.

  2. warrenmoon says: May 6, 2012 7:59 PM

    Just chasing those dollar signs…In all seriousness, is this how he plans to get free health insurance? I wouldn’t want this sex offender teaching my children, but Pittsburgh can use all the educators they can get.

  3. bedo1234 says: May 6, 2012 8:00 PM

    Cue the usual comments…

    Plenty of guys (Emmit Smith for one) completed their degree’s after college. It took many of them longer than 9 years, and mist didn’t plan to use it.

    Usually the corresponding news story are congratulating them, but, the same usual sarcastic BS from you guys.

  4. wrathofgodzilla says: May 6, 2012 8:01 PM

    And Big Rapin’ Ben managed to graduate college without taking the Sex Ed class 122 “No Means No”

  5. bearsrulepackdrool says: May 6, 2012 8:01 PM

    lol, Roethlisberger as a teacher. O, boy! Hide ya kids and hide ya wife.

  6. 69firebird says: May 6, 2012 8:03 PM

    Duhhh, it wouldn’t be the first time a pro athlete has squandered millions and millions of dollars.

  7. tfbuckfutter says: May 6, 2012 8:03 PM

    “He’s married, and he somehow has gotten back in the good graces of Steelers fans who were ready in 2010 to run him out of town.”

    —————————————

    Seriously?

    Steeler fans are the biggest homers this side of Oakland.

    So that “somehow” was that he put his Steeler jersey back on and everyone was blinded by it. See, the incidents happened in the off season when he was just wearing a polo shirt with a popped collar (I’m assuming) and the fans forgot how much they love him in a jersey.

  8. ravenfan820 says: May 6, 2012 8:05 PM

    co-eds everywhere can now sleep better

  9. peytonwantsaflag says: May 6, 2012 8:07 PM

    Guess he needed that physIcs class to help him navigate those scottish golf courses this summer.

    Give me a break though, not many stealer fans were ready to run him out of town. – talk about rewriting history.

  10. Dan says: May 6, 2012 8:07 PM

    Don’t really like him or the Steelers, but hey, good for him. I don’t see why you’re trying to put a bad spin on this.

  11. kingbeason52 says: May 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    Thats crap..im graduating this summer at 24, and have to re-take a class that a passed when i was 18..because of some 5 year rule they issued..i guess it dosent count for an athlete..good for him though..

  12. bangbangbilly says: May 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    Alotta people go to school for ten years… Yea I know there called doctors

  13. hebertespinosa says: May 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    Congrats to Big Ben!

  14. 3menandablog says: May 6, 2012 8:11 PM

    They always return to the scene of the crime.

  15. noburghfan says: May 6, 2012 8:11 PM

    Yeah , Right ??

  16. thechamp3 says: May 6, 2012 8:12 PM

    Or he has a passion for underage girls…..

  17. maxvv says: May 6, 2012 8:12 PM

    Look, it’s impossible to disagree that Ben’s degree is window dressing and he’ll never actually need it. But he also happens to be a mega-star QB, who enjoys a far longer and more lucrative career than the average player.

    We can’t poke fun at or belittle the value of a college degree for NFL players, not when most of them exit the league with almost no idea of what to do with the rest of their lives. A Bachelor’s in anything is a valued commodity, and could be a lifeline for retired players trying to find their feet. Read Trevor Pryce’s article in the New York Times if you’re interested.

    …..but man, could you *imagine* the Ben as an educator?

  18. tkulbash says: May 6, 2012 8:12 PM

    Great, now Goodell should make him teach 40 hours of Rape Aggression Defense classes.

  19. drewman05 says: May 6, 2012 8:13 PM

    Take a chill pill mike. Maybe he just wanted to finish what he started.

  20. ironcity6pak says: May 6, 2012 8:17 PM

    Good for him, his head is the right places. I’m a believer in the burger.

  21. str8cashomie2 says: May 6, 2012 8:17 PM

    nine years later he has a lot of $, pretty sure it worked out ok for him. lots of slants in headlines lately

  22. mjkelly77 says: May 6, 2012 8:18 PM

    … donning a extra-large gown and an extra-extra-large cap and receiving, um, a sheepskin.
    _______________________

    Think he’ll roll that sheepskin onto his man part? Or doesn’t he use one when he takes advantage of young girls?

  23. 2dollarpbrs says: May 6, 2012 8:20 PM

    To celebrate Toothlessberger went straight to the ladies room with an unnamed minor

  24. philly4lyfe says: May 6, 2012 8:22 PM

    Did he assault any women while he was there?

  25. oldbrowndawg says: May 6, 2012 8:25 PM

    Talk about a slow learner!

  26. napoleonblownapart6887 says: May 6, 2012 8:27 PM

    Good for him. He won’t ever need to use his degree after signing a $100mm contract.

    Cue all of the jokes about Ben being an idiot from unoriginal haters…

  27. shawon0meter says: May 6, 2012 8:29 PM

    Not really a fan of the last paragraph. Of course he’ll never use the degree but it was probably about finishing something he started AND setting an example for the thousands and thousands of kids with NFL dreams that won’t make it.

  28. sgtr0c says: May 6, 2012 8:36 PM

    He could actually, maybe want to become a teacher after he is done.

    Come on Mike, you were a lawyer, the only way he would use a degree is if he was broke… It just does have any proof and a lot of opinion.
    I don’t like him either way, but good for him.

  29. xx4zu1 says: May 6, 2012 8:37 PM

    Perhaps he’s already grown tired of his wife and decided to scout some fresh meat.

  30. siggy00 says: May 6, 2012 8:37 PM

    “Don’t really like him or the Steelers, but hey, good for him. I don’t see why you’re trying to put a bad spin on this”

    Because Florio is an obsessive POS who lives to put Ben Roethlisberger down on this two bit website.

    In short, Florio is a 2nd rate lawyer who’s basically a nobody in sports media.

    So garbage articles like this, is how he gets attention.

    NBC should be embarrassed to be linked up with this assclown.

    Now go ahead and delete this comment Florio you self-righteous prick.

  31. trackman2012 says: May 6, 2012 8:38 PM

    Mike – I have read you for years and finally can take no more. I am not a Steeler fan, could care less about Ben and think he is a jerk for his past. But, when someone makes the effort to go back to school, finish what they started, not because they have to or for financial gain, they should be respected and applauded (at least for that act).

    Your obvious bias is ruining the site.

    Another example – keep playing both sides of the bounty scandal with your holier than though proclamations of protection for whistle blowers, then do your lawyer a-hole move and demand the NFL release to you, a private citizen, their facts and findings.

    PFT has jumped the shark.

  32. kegowhisky says: May 6, 2012 8:39 PM

    Graduating college is a good, honorable, and responsible achievement for Ben. Not so much that he did, but that he wanted to do it. Congratulations Ben, keep the good things coming!

  33. khuxford says: May 6, 2012 8:40 PM

    I don’t get the cynicism & hate displayed in the final paragraph of the blog entry.

  34. thehouseofho says: May 6, 2012 8:42 PM

    Or he could use his education degree to design and oversee curriculums. You know, things like the rookie symposium or if the NFL ever decides, a retiree symposium. An education degree doesn’t limit you to being a teacher. That by no means is a knock on teachers. I think teaching is one of the noblest professions in the world.

    How do you know he’s not prepping to do something like that for his post-playing career?

  35. thehawg says: May 6, 2012 8:44 PM

    Congrats Ben, I wish had a college degree, I wonder how many of the haters have a college degree. Also a shout to “Shaq” who got a Doctors Degree.

  36. tfbuckfutter says: May 6, 2012 8:48 PM

    “I gotta get some sleep tonight. I got Women’s Studies with Professor Roethlishberger at nine fifteen tomorrow.”

  37. sirsupersouthern says: May 6, 2012 8:50 PM

    “If he ever needs to actually use the degree, it will mean that he has completely squandered millions and millions of dollars.”
    ********************************

    How cynical. Football players obviously need something to do after their playing days are over, and a degree in education means Ben could be hired as a high school football coach who also teaches a class or two.

    Good for you, Ben…

  38. Kave Krew says: May 6, 2012 8:51 PM

    I apologize to Ben and the Steelers fans – i thought Ben was creepy-like trolling college bars as a professional athlete when in fact he WAS a college student….now that makes a difference with those two legal cases….just student on student stuff

  39. arlingtonsynn says: May 6, 2012 8:51 PM

    And now the Sexual Assault rate at Miami will drop below Ohio State’s.

  40. 34mudcat34 says: May 6, 2012 8:52 PM

    “alot of people take 9 years to graduate college”

    ” yeah, they’re called doctors…”

  41. textexington says: May 6, 2012 8:56 PM

    31-25.

  42. blacknole08 says: May 6, 2012 8:59 PM

    Congrats to Roethlisberger (and Shaq) for finishing what they started. Regardless of what these guys do for a living, they still have parents, and a parent wants their child to finish college. Good for them!

  43. khuxford says: May 6, 2012 9:00 PM

    Wow, there’s a Big Ben hater thumbing down anything that dare questions Florio for taking a shot at the QB. Man, I don’t like the Steelers or Big Ben’s personal history, but crapping on the completed education is just a bit silly from Florio.

  44. shzastl says: May 6, 2012 9:01 PM

    Wow, why bend over backwards to turn getting a college degree into a negative? The “con” reference makes it sound like the education has zero value for any player who gets a substantial NFL contract. That’s silly–a bachelor’s degree is not trade school. Just because the course of study is not directly applied to earn a living, having gone through it still makes the player a more well-rounded person better equipped to handle NFL life or whatever else they choose to do. For the same reason, one wouldn’t have to squander millions for the degree to be useful. And most people with ambition don’t retire the moment they have enough money to be financially secure–they’d rather do something with their lives than sit around for 30 years counting their money.

  45. Gordon says: May 6, 2012 9:03 PM

    I can’t imagine what kind of criminal activity will be going on during his graduation party with all the coeds.

  46. jimmer2372 says: May 6, 2012 9:17 PM

    Ben now has a degree on top of two SB rings and truckloads of cash. Seems he has what only 99.999% of what you haters could dream about .

  47. commitment2excrement says: May 6, 2012 9:20 PM

    Congratz Ben, after 9 years of schooling do you understand what the term NO means?

  48. jimmer2372 says: May 6, 2012 9:20 PM

    Poor Florio . Ben keeps making his life better….Florio not so much.

  49. hedleykow says: May 6, 2012 9:21 PM

    Ben could be the school bus driver, maybe.

  50. fancyleague says: May 6, 2012 9:28 PM

    It doesn’t have to be for money. He could become a teacher later because he, you know, wants to teach.

  51. patsfan says: May 6, 2012 9:28 PM

    Yeah, who wouldh’a thunk his education wasn’t complete…

    “I’ll take “Extended Legal Liability” and “Applied Women’s studies” for $500, Alex.”

  52. patriots123456 says: May 6, 2012 9:29 PM

    Now if he could only learn how to drive a motorcycle.

  53. ihatepittsburgh says: May 6, 2012 9:32 PM

    He probably figured he had to go back to school as a backup plan because just like the steelers his run is coming to an end

  54. keiselsbeard says: May 6, 2012 9:34 PM

    You know why there are few responses by Steelers fans on this site? Because this site is EXTREMELY prejudiced against Pro-Steeler sentiment. Just posted a something in defense of Big Ben, and it’s automatically deleted. Friggin patheitc!

  55. conbro8 says: May 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    Good for Ben. I’m not saying the guy has a spotless record, but at least he finished his degree. He may not be a role model in every sense, but at least he finished what he started.

  56. blacknole08 says: May 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    Andrew Luck is about to get his degree in architecture in the next month, but will probably won’t ever use it considering the fact that he was the first pick a few weeks ago and will be payed tons of money by the Colts. Should his degree be devalued?

    Hell, even Troy Aikman went back and finished his degree at UCLA, after winning 3 SBs in 4 years and being inducted in the hall of fame. Should his degree be devalued?

    Athletes can still be serious students. They can also choose to go back and finish their degrees even after achieving success in their sport. So get off your high horse Florio. You’re better than that (I hope).

  57. johanneschimpo says: May 6, 2012 9:41 PM

    It’s college, people. Not a big deal, especially when no professor would dare fail you.

  58. daknight93 says: May 6, 2012 9:48 PM

    congrats to “Big Ben” on getting his degree…can’t play football forever, prepare for a career once football is over..

  59. tfbuckfutter says: May 6, 2012 10:05 PM

    blacknole08 says: May 6, 2012 9:39 PM

    Andrew Luck is about to get his degree in architecture in the next month, but will probably won’t ever use it considering the fact that he was the first pick a few weeks ago and will be payed tons of money by the Colts. Should his degree be devalued?

    Hell, even Troy Aikman went back and finished his degree at UCLA, after winning 3 SBs in 4 years and being inducted in the hall of fame. Should his degree be devalued?

    ——————————————-

    Anything that is not used is, by definition, not only “devalued” but “worthless.”

  60. eggersthejerk says: May 6, 2012 10:16 PM

    Though it makes sense to finish what he started and display evidence that he has become a responsible adult, does anyone think he’ll become a teacher when he quits playing football?

    ………………………………………………………………………

    I can see him going into teaching.

    What better way for him to have access to lots of young co-eds?

  61. stairwayto7 says: May 6, 2012 10:20 PM

    Congrats Ben. Maybe SEC players can go ge their degrees. Oh wait it will take them 4 years to do this since they never go to class!

  62. nepatriots128154 says: May 6, 2012 10:21 PM

    Of course he isn’t going to seriously use that education degree. But why knock him for it? Maybe he just wanted to be able to say he’s a college graduate. Instead of negatively pointing out the uselessness of his degree, Roethlisberger should be complimented for continuing his education, even is he had no financial incentive to so.

  63. nepatriots128154 says: May 6, 2012 10:26 PM

    Of course his education degree is near useless. Even so, he shouldn’t be knocked for it. Maybe he just wanted to have the feeling of being a college graduate. Roethlisberger should be praised for continuing his education even when he has no financial inventive to do so. Roethlisberger continues and finishes his college education, yet your main focus is the financial viability (or lack thereof) of his degree.

  64. pftcensorssuck says: May 6, 2012 10:29 PM

    Who’s the genius that thought it was a good idea to put Ben Roethlisberger in a roomful of college coeds at graduation????

    Do they not read newspapers?

  65. pftcensorssuck says: May 6, 2012 10:35 PM

    shawon0meter says:May 6, 2012 8:29 PM

    it was probably about finishing something he started AND setting an example for the thousands and thousands of kids with NFL dreams that won’t make it.
    ———————————————————-
    How ’bout he just set an example by not sexually assaulting women?

    Maybe start with THAT.

  66. Deb says: May 6, 2012 10:45 PM

    It’s not that uncommon for players to return to college to complete their degrees. Andre Rison has just returned to Michigan State to finish his. Will every such achievement include an editorial from you about what a waste that is since, surely, these athletes will never use their degrees and we all know–wink, wink–that “getting a degree” is part of the con of college football? Or is that overblown cynicism reserved for Roethlisberger and/or Steeler players in a quest for the inevitable page clicks that come with articles on #7 and Pittsburgh?

  67. fancyleague says: May 6, 2012 10:47 PM

    Wow. The I Wish I Had a Hundred Million Dollars Club is putting in overtime tonight. Not much going on in Baltimore or Cleveland on a Sunday evening.

  68. gobills716 says: May 6, 2012 10:58 PM

    What’s the point of the final paragraph? Bit of an unnecessary jab at the guy. There are millions of college graduates who don’t use their degree. Probably 75% of the waitresses in the restaurant industry have a Bachelors degree. Would it be okay in your book if he finished a Liberal Arts degree?

  69. ezra954 says: May 6, 2012 10:59 PM

    Does this mean he is bringing rape to a whole nother new level

  70. Deb says: May 6, 2012 11:02 PM

    If you guys have nothing to do but make rape jokes, fine. One woman e-mailed and texted her friends she couldn’t wait to see him again, and the other originally said she’d never had sex with him–which was verified by her medical exam. But I don’t get all the stuff about minors. The first woman was a hotel worker older than he was. The second was a 20-year-old multiple witnesses said chased him from bar to bar telling him her pin said she was “Down to F*ck.” Where do you guys get minors from that? Geez, L.T. bought a teenager and you never say a word on Giants threads. What a bunch of hypocrites.

  71. tommyribs says: May 6, 2012 11:05 PM

    Wasn’t Part of his Plea Bargain Deal/Parole a stipulation that he stay away from Colleges?

  72. stevenfbrackett says: May 6, 2012 11:13 PM

    At this rate, he’ll catch up to Shaquille O’Neill by the time he is 75. — (O’Neill got his doctorate – earned, not honorary, this weekend. I know a basketball player what actually attended classes!)

  73. ragingrhyno21 says: May 6, 2012 11:42 PM

    This is really smart of Ben.

    He now has a fall-back plan in case his football career doesn’t go well.

  74. dogg91702 says: May 6, 2012 11:44 PM

    good job, only 20% of the population even have a bachelor degree and somewhere around 8% has a masters

  75. sullivdr says: May 6, 2012 11:53 PM

    Such a good smart guy, congrats Ben. Really turned his life around, love ya bra.

  76. geo1113 says: May 7, 2012 12:00 AM

    “If he ever needs to actually use the degree, it will mean that he has completely squandered millions and millions of dollars.”

    Dumb comment. He may be looking for something to do when his football career is over. If he decides to be a teacher, he will need the degree.

  77. steelhammer92 says: May 7, 2012 12:02 AM

    The rape jokes are so funny… Especially considering how lame the facts behind the rape accusations actually were.

    Meanwhile, he is already more successful than all of you clowns combined, including you Mike.

  78. savannahrose44 says: May 7, 2012 12:08 AM

    “does anyone think he’ll become a teacher when he quits playing football?”

    Can you think of a better place to find young girls in bathrooms?

  79. johntonioholmes says: May 7, 2012 12:19 AM

    If I made as much as Roethlisberger, I would still pursue a Ph.D.

    Maybe Ben was finishing what he started or may, like many people, he was just pursuing knowledge.

  80. randallflagg52 says: May 7, 2012 12:20 AM

    “Ok class your first quiz will be on how to properly wear a motorcycle helmet. No cheating Mr. Roethlisberger”

  81. randallflagg52 says: May 7, 2012 12:27 AM

    Was Bill Leavy his proffessor?

  82. briang123 says: May 7, 2012 12:30 AM

    One thing no one seems to consider. Perhaps he wants to set an example for his future children. Make up your minds, either complain about players not graduating or mock those that do. You can’t have both.

  83. zoidenflak says: May 7, 2012 1:47 AM

    ihatepittsburgh says:
    He probably figured he had to go back to school as a backup plan because just like the steelers his run is coming to an end
    ——————————————————-
    Not with that draft, Buddy!
    And the beat goes on…

  84. bangitfootball says: May 7, 2012 6:36 AM

    I thought sex offenders werent allowed on school grounds.

  85. Steeler's Will says: May 7, 2012 7:05 AM

    Teaching is a career you choose because you love it, not because of the huge salary (especially with a Bachelor’s degree). While I doubt we ever see Big Ben teaching anything other than a football camp, good on him for finishing the degree.

  86. steel9456 says: May 7, 2012 7:25 AM

    Why would you mock someone who took the time to eard a degree? With Junior Seau’s sucicide possibly related to having problems adjusting to life without football, Does it really hurt to have some kind of plan for life after football? Your mockery of this is sad Florio! You could use television classes. Maybe then you wouldnt have that “deer in the headlights” look everytime i see you on TV.

  87. surly1n1nd1anapol1s says: May 7, 2012 7:26 AM

    I’ll take a bet on squandering millions. Your point is well taken about income but often if they are not prepared to handle it?

  88. choppinwood says: May 7, 2012 8:17 AM

    Since when did 20yo college co-eds become such paragons of virtue that??? and When did a 20yo suddenly become underage?

    So many haters on here are quick to vilify a guy,
    who incidentally wasn’t charged with anything, but how many of you guys would pass up a night with a co-ed? Hypocrites!

  89. Kave Krew says: May 7, 2012 8:30 AM

    Is there like a Bat signal that goes out to all Steeler fans whenever PFT has a bad boy Steeler story to combat the negative comments

  90. wwwmattcom says: May 7, 2012 8:50 AM

    Several members of the Pittsburgh Steelers will make cameo appearances as members of the fictional Gotham Rogues football team in the film, including Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward, Troy Polamalu, Willie Colon, Maurkice Pouncey, Mike Wallace, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Ryan Clark, James Farrior, LaMarr Woodley, and Casey Hampton, [38][39] and former Steelers head coach Bill Cowher as the head coach of the Rogues. [40]

    Pittsburgh mayor Luke Ravenstahl appears as a kicker for the Rogues’ opponents, the Rapid City Monuments. [41

  91. randomguy9999 says: May 7, 2012 9:07 AM

    Ben belongs in prison…

  92. southpaw2k says: May 7, 2012 9:55 AM

    As I was reading through the article, the first thought that came to mind was, “Boy, good for Ben. Ray Lewis went back to finish his degree years after he left school for the NFL, so it’s good that Ben is also finishing what he had started too. And I bet there will be plenty of idiotic and unfunny ‘Ben is a rapist’ jokes and remarks in the comments section too.”

    Thanks for not letting me down, PFT land. I would have thought something was wrong if there weren’t all those old and tired jokes.

    And I’m a Ravens fan, in case you were wondering.

  93. ravensgrl says: May 7, 2012 10:07 AM

    Congratulations to Ben. Can’t knock a guy for completing his college education.

  94. geezohman says: May 7, 2012 10:34 AM

    As a college graduate and a Steeler (die hard) fan since 1970. Even with my degree and good jobs having it, i don’t think I’ll hit a million.

    so… for us.. ok.. get your degree. Otherwise I don’t believe society is doing anyone a favor except the colleges getting some more money (for Ben to go back and get his ‘piece of paper’. he made his millions based on his sports abilities. While we make our ‘thousands’ based on our ‘abilities’.

    For example… I understand a billionair in the computer world dropped out of college.. his name Bill Gates.

    My daughter is a music teacher, two years out of college.. in debt badly, worked one year at elementary school and with Ohio budget cuts.. has lost her job for next year. Now what…
    The war on terrorism still haunts us.. Probably what Bin Laden wanted all along, the reason hitting the ‘trade towers.

  95. spavs412 says: May 7, 2012 11:00 AM

    Good job Ben :)

  96. shaunypoo says: May 7, 2012 11:34 AM

    He donated a bunch of money. You do that and they will forgive a few credit hours so you can get your degree, too. He only need to donate a little more and he gets his graduate degree.

  97. Deb says: May 7, 2012 12:36 PM

    Kave Krew says:

    Is there like a Bat signal that goes out to all Steeler fans whenever PFT has a bad boy Steeler story to combat the negative comments

    ————————————————–
    Yeah … it’s called a bookmark. Since I’m a Steelers fan, I have our PFT page marked so I can check it easily when I’m working. Duh.

    The real question is whether there’s a jackass signal that goes out to the rest of you whenever PFT has a comment on anything Steeler so you can jump in and make junior-high rape jokes.

  98. shzastl says: May 7, 2012 12:55 PM

    MF traded in his law practice to be a blogger–a job that any teenager living in his parents’ basement could do. By MF’s logic, his degrees are now worthless since he doesn’t need to use them.

  99. CKL says: May 7, 2012 3:22 PM

    I sure hope any of you Steelers fans complaining about the comments don’t troll Pats threads with tired old spygate whining (Deb isn’t one of these ). I know most of you who are complaining about those comments do it to us. So don’t whine about “trolling” if YOU do it yourself.

  100. thacloser86 says: May 7, 2012 3:57 PM

    Congrats Big Ben

  101. bedo1234 says: May 7, 2012 4:24 PM

    CKL says:
    May 7, 2012 3:22 PM
    I sure hope any of you Steelers fans complaining about the comments don’t troll Pats threads with tired old spygate whining (Deb isn’t one of these ). I know most of you who are complaining about those comments do it to us. So don’t whine about “trolling” if YOU do it yourself.

    _________

    One big difference. The Pats got convicted. They are guilty, no questions. Ben got accused by a drunk college girl and a crazy lady who admittedly wanted his baby.

    Ben will go into the HOF with no asterisks. Brady will have 3. Waaaaaaaaaaaahhh

  102. halftermguv says: May 7, 2012 5:07 PM

    As soon as I saw Mike Florio on the byline I knew the tone was going to be snarky. Despite numerous other NFL players doing the same thing and being lionized as fine examples for “our children” I knew Florio would take the low road.

    Good for any athlete that goes back and finishes…end of story.

  103. randallflagg52 says: May 7, 2012 6:31 PM

    @bedo1234

    What makes you so sure Ben will get into the HOF? Joe Theismann won a SB, was named to multiple pro bowl teams, was twice an All Pro (Ben has yet to be named an All Pro) and was a League MVP (Ben’s never even been in MVP discussion) and has never been considered a HOF player despite a better career than Ben.

    Ben still has a lot of work to do if he want to be named into the HOF. After all it’s called the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Pretty Good.

  104. eggersthejerk says: May 7, 2012 6:42 PM

    Steeler fans make excuses for this guy’s past behavior all the time.

    We shall see if they still do so down the road after he quits playing football, becomes a teacher, and then starts making the moves on said Steelers fans’ co-ed daughters inside the bathroom stalls.

  105. bedo1234 says: May 7, 2012 6:59 PM

    @randallflag52

    Ben has won two rings and been to three super bowls and he’s not done. That is already a better career than theisman, and he happens to be on a team that is a contender every year.

  106. shzastl says: May 7, 2012 7:16 PM

    Only QB that won 2 SBs as a starter and not in HOF? Plunkett. So Ben has a strong chance.

  107. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: May 7, 2012 7:56 PM

    Florio and his crew of flunkies are ruining a decent site. The only reason people come here is to get ALL of their football news consolidated on one site. We could care less about your personal opinions. This site was so much better before Florio’s EGO blew up. Keep the opinions to yourself and just post football news. That’s IT. Oh…and please stop with the sensational headlines. It’s annoying and there is no integrity when you do that. The NFL is plenty exciting without your generated story lines. This is coming from a Bengals fan. P.S. go ahead and delete this one too, just wanted you to see it.

  108. Deb says: May 7, 2012 11:22 PM

    @bedo1234 …

    I’m a diehard Steelers fan and hate the Pats, but it was common practice for teams to videotape signals. Bill Cowher has said the same thing. Where Belichick went wrong was in continuing to do it after a memo went out telling coaches to stop. He deserved to get his hand slapped by the league for ignoring the new rule, but that team earned its championships. And Tom Brady is one of the best quarterbacks in league history.

    I went through those 26 years between Steeler championships, so I know how important Ben is to this team. But when it comes to the Super Bowl games themselves, Tom Brady was a heckuva lot more responsible for the Pats’ SB victories than Ben was for ours. He’s a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and there won’t be any asterisks beside his name. That’s exactly what CKL was talking about in her post. When our fans make those kinds of idiotic comments about the Pats, they’re no better than the morons posting “rape, rape, rape” about Ben.

  109. bedo1234 says: May 8, 2012 12:09 AM

    @Deb

    Great job. Now CLK will continue to respect you.

    T

  110. bedo1234 says: May 8, 2012 12:31 AM

    and also, the fact that CLK is on a steeler thread, telling us that we deserve to be trolled, makes her a troll.

  111. randallflagg52 says: May 8, 2012 4:23 AM

    @bedo1234

    Would you mention Ben as being in the same tier as Brady, Manning, or Brees? Probably not unless you are an extreme Steeler homer. THOSE are HOF players, Ben is a bit further down on that list, in fact I’d argue that there are at least 7 QBs better than Ben in the league right now.

    And don’t give me that “he was 2 rings BS” because he played aweful against Seattle, and he has the benefit of being a member of a great team. Like I said it’s the Hall of Fame, not of very good and unless you are a top 3 QB during your era you probably won’t get in.

  112. footballfan says: May 8, 2012 7:36 AM

    Funny how not that long ago this same web site was complimenting Troy Polomalu (hope I spelled that right) on finally finishing his degree. I’m having a hard time understanding how it is good for him but bad for Ben.. To be a respected journalist you need to state the facts and keep your homer opinion out of it Florio!

    Anyone that finished their degree deserves a pat on the back. I don’t care if you make millions or not. Dave Thomas got his High School diploma when he was in his 60′s. I’m pretty sure that guy was worth way more than anyone in the NFL.

  113. quittsburghstoolers says: May 8, 2012 8:08 AM

    jimmer2372 says:May 6, 2012 9:17 PM

    Ben now has a degree on top of two SB rings and truckloads of cash. Seems he has what only 99.999% of what you haters could dream about .

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    I can’t speak for all us “haters” but for me personally I couldn’t care less if he has lots of money, a college degree, or the fact that he happened to be on a team that had a good enough defense & running game (that did most of the work) getting him those 2 rings.

    The problem I have with the guy is that he has an arrogant attitude, he’s a BIG time diva, he saw no problem with trying to have sex with a woman in a bathroom, that he has been known to run up big tabs at clubs & then walk out without paying, & that he foolishly risks his team’s chances at success by riding a motorcycle without a license or a helmet. And these are just the things we know about. Lord only knows what other questionable thoughts or actions he has had that have been successfully covered up.

    If this guy had been on the Ravens & done all this stuff, it wouldn’t matter to Steeler fans if he had the degree, the money or the rings. Steeler fans would be trashing this guy for all his mistakes. But because he is the Pittsburgh QB and not the Ravens QB, then others here are said to have a helluva nerve criticizing him when he messes up.

    That’s lame… even for a homer. Try not making excuses for him…

  114. CKL says: May 8, 2012 11:32 AM

    bedo1234 says: May 8, 2012 12:31 AM

    and also, the fact that CLK is on a steeler thread, telling us that we deserve to be trolled, makes her a troll.
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    FANTASTIC logic…not. If you’ll notice, I made no disparaging comments about your QB that don’t relate to the story at all. That’s what some fans do that makes them trolls. Your comprehension skills need some work. I’d much rather respect an intelligent fan like Deb than someone like you though so there’s that.

  115. Deb says: May 8, 2012 12:37 PM

    @bedo1234 …

    Guess you’re new. I’ve been around here for a few years and always post what I really think, no matter who it pisses off. So does CKL, which is why we have a mutual respect even if we don’t always agree. Neither of us is a troll, but we both post on articles about different teams because we’re fans of the game.

    What I said about the Pats is true, just like it’s true that Ray Lewis didn’t murder anyone, and Ben didn’t rape anyone. I can sling smack with the best of them, but would rather elevate mine a little beyond junior high. If you don’t like that–or respect it–too bad.

  116. khuxford says: May 8, 2012 12:37 PM

    What disparaging remark is there to legitimately make that does relate to the story? A man finished up his college degree. It took nine years? Who cares? Do we really think it took nine years because he kept flunking classes? There’s NO LEGITIMATE DISPARAGING REMARK to be made about this story, so, if you made any, you’re trolling.

  117. bharvey1113 says: May 8, 2012 1:20 PM

    quittsburghstoolers:
    “If this guy had been on the Ravens & done all this stuff, it wouldn’t matter to Steeler fans if he had the degree, the money or the rings. Steeler fans would be trashing this guy for all his mistakes. But because he is the Pittsburgh QB and not the Ravens QB, then others here are said to have a helluva nerve criticizing him when he messes up.”

    Lol, you crack me up. Do we trash Ray Lewis EVERY CHANCE WE GET for being a murderer? NO! Go somewhere else, you clearly are such a bad fan, your username has nothing to do with your team, but the hate you have for another team? Wow. Seriously, the username is about as queer as it gets. Come talk logic and give the guy credit when it’s due. I give Ray Lewis all the credit in the world for being an active philanthropist in Baltimore. I still don’t like him, but at least I respect him. You are the epitome of Ravens fans and I hope everyone can generalize you with the typical Ravens fans.

  118. CKL says: May 8, 2012 2:09 PM

    @Deb
    Well said!

    Trolling can also be making nasty remarks about people that are true. IE Rex is fat, so people make juvenile comments about his weight on every Jets story. Probably no one hates the NYJ more than us Pats fans but that is so lame IMO.

  119. bedo1234 says: May 8, 2012 2:50 PM

    @randallflagg52

    If you don’t think that he’s putting together a HOF resume then I doubt I’ll be able to convince you otherwise. I would not put Ben in the same category as any of the three you mentioned, because they are all traditional pocket passers. Ben plays the game a little different, but he does what he does well. And you’re right, he played bad against Seattle and didn’t do too much better against Arizona, but we wouldn’t be in either super bowl without him. I didn’t say he was a HOF today, I said he’s on the right track, and if you don’t admit that then you’re just as much a hater as I am a homer (and I am).

    @Deb and CLK

    I got outta hand yesterday, I’m sure you ladies are both positive, thoughtful contributers. I’ve been around since the very beginning, wayyy before the NBC days, but these days everything Florio writes annoys me so I get a little frisky.

  120. Deb says: May 8, 2012 7:24 PM

    Well, bed01234, I’d love to tell you it’s okay and don’t worry about it, but for some inexplicable reason, good sportsmanship is censored on these threads. Sad, isn’t it?

  121. quittsburghstoolers says: May 9, 2012 8:53 AM

    @ bharvey1113:

    First off, I couldn’t give a rat’s arse less what you or any other Squealer fan thinks of my user name. The reason I have it is to mock both the team & their fan base. You must not be very bright for me to have to explain that fact to you. But if you still don’t understand, next time I’ll use baby talk.

    Second, just because I mentioned the Ravens do NOT assume I am a Ravens fan. Personally, my “opinion” on Ray Lewis is that he probably was involved in that killing in some way & that (if that’s true) he should be in prison for it. Won’t see many Raven fans saying that.

    Look, the bottom line is that if that QB of yours wasn’t an embarrassment & a PR nightmare for the team then nobody would have anything to bust on him for. But he has said & done several very stupid things so fans of teams not named Pittsburgh are gonna have fun mocking him & the Pittsburgh homers who make excuses for his behavior.

    Better get used to it. It ain’t going away. In fact, I can’t wait for the next dumb thing he says or does. It’s been a while so I’d say he’s well overdo for making a fool outta himself…

  122. tluke25 says: May 10, 2012 9:30 PM

    kingbeason52 says: May 6, 2012 8:08 PM

    Thats crap..im graduating this summer at 24, and have to re-take a class that a passed when i was 18..because of some 5 year rule they issued..i guess it dosent count for an athlete..good for him though..
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    only certain courses have 5 year rules such as “Anatomy and Physiology”. 95 to 100 percent of the courses you’ve had in the past will still carry over later in life. I doubt he took any special shortcuts. It seems like he wanted the feeling of really earning a degree.

  123. pat940 says: May 11, 2012 9:09 PM

    I’m no Ben fan, but anyone doggin on him for graduating college is just a hater, straight up.

    You bag on the players that go broke saying they should’ve at least took advantage of the college education they were offered. Then, when a well established player with 2 SB rings graduates during the peak of his career somehow thats bad? Maybe he wanted to enrich his life, accomplish a goal, make his parents proud.

    Athletes are human just like us.

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