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Vikings stadium bill finally gets a vote today

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At 11:00 a.m. ET, the Minnesota House of Representatives will launch a debate that, eventually, will culminate in a vote on a bill that would build a new football stadium for the Vikings.

Doug Belden of the St. Paul Pioneer Press has put together a simple but informative snapshot of the process.  A total of 68 votes in favor of the measure will be needed to send it to the Minnesota Senate.

The House has 61 Democrats and 72 Republicans.  Per Belden, 34 Democrats will support the measure; the question is whether 34 Republicans will do the same.

For those of you who are interested in seeing the sausage being made, the folks at TwinCities.com will be streaming the debate.

Last month, the effort had died on the vine.  A visit from Commissioner Roger Goodell and Steelers owner Art Rooney II, who chairs the league’s stadium committee, put the bill back on track.

Today (or perhaps tonight, perhaps late), the Vikings and the NFL will get what they wanted:  A vote.  If the vote fails, things could get very interesting.

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  1. largent80 says: May 7, 2012 9:49 AM

    Should be easy enough to handicap. Are there more Minnesota Tea Partiers or Vikings fans who are eligible to vote in the state?

  2. jimmysee says: May 7, 2012 9:56 AM

    Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their party.

  3. thankheavenfornumberseven says: May 7, 2012 9:59 AM

    If this doesn’t pass, it will be because of petty politics and it won’t reflect the will of the people. I think it will pass on a very close vote. Then the Senate has to vote on it, and that’s a little more dicey.

  4. skolvikings74 says: May 7, 2012 10:02 AM

    Vikings fans: Send your emails, blow up the phone lines! Tell the MN legislator that the Vikings belong in MINNESOTA!!!

  5. sledgehorn says: May 7, 2012 10:02 AM

    Am I the only one that always skips these “Stadium Situation” stories? I can barely understand half the stuff in any of them…

  6. len462 says: May 7, 2012 10:04 AM

    If the Vikes left I’d most likely be done with pro football. I’d miss my team but most definitely wouldn’t miss talking to packer fans…

  7. FlikeMorio says: May 7, 2012 10:05 AM

    As a Minnesotan, if they can’t get this passed, it will be a complete embarrassment. Everyone who voted “no” should leave the state.

  8. purpleguy says: May 7, 2012 10:07 AM

    I’m not sure if I want the vote to be for the stadium more because I’m a long-standing fan and want to keep my team in MN or because the oh-so-clever LA Viking posts will finally die a sudden and deserving death.

  9. eagles4thering says: May 7, 2012 10:08 AM

    Just move em out of there already.. Minnesota clearly doesn’t like football

  10. goodluckking says: May 7, 2012 10:09 AM

    As a Lions fan and Black & Blue Division long time fan, I want Minnesota to stay put.

    But if there is no stadium, it will undoubtbly mean Minnesota is headed to the NFC West and St. Louis to the NFC North.

  11. wayne1693 says: May 7, 2012 10:11 AM

    I really like the fact that the Commish is strongly in favor of keeping franchises where they are. Even though lots of powerful people are ‘moving & shaking’ to get a franchise in L.A….many of Commissioner Goodell’s statements and actions evidence that stability is important to him, and that expansion is the better way to eventually get a franchise to L.A. This is a much better policy than the NBA’s…where owners are constantly threatening to move [because they know they easily can]…in order to leverage a ‘sweetheart’ stadium deal from their current city; e.g., take a look at the mess in Sacramento over the past couple of years.

  12. NationalFlagFootballLeague says: May 7, 2012 10:12 AM

    The Minnesota House of Representatives will first debate on how the Vikings were robbed in the 2009 NFC Championship game just because they represent the whiniest fans in NFL history

  13. clear2me says: May 7, 2012 10:13 AM

    Sarcasm intended…..I don’t care, I’m a Packer fan and I own shares in my team.

  14. cags777 says: May 7, 2012 10:14 AM

    As a Vikings fan and stadium supporter, I am at peace knowing that I have done all I could to lobby and reach out to potential fence-sitters. I am optimistic that this bill will pass the House, and I think most House members understand that the Metrodome is not a great facility.

  15. chuckyd317 says: May 7, 2012 10:14 AM

    Go ahead and draft up the next Vikings headline… Stadium Bill Denied… Again…

  16. blizzard01 says: May 7, 2012 10:15 AM

    I get that not everyone is a football fan. i don;t think sports is the highest priority in our society. It does hoeever, have an important civic and fianancial role.

    For those of you who say “we need jobs,” or “our schools need fixing,” or “the NFL already makes enough money”- you’re right.

    But if the stadium is not built, it’s not like all the money destined for the stadium will go towards employment programs, school reform or into the unemployed’s pockets. Its either the stadium or no stadium.

    Picture the Vikes playing in beautiful sunshine on grass field a couple of winters from now in southern California. They’ll be fine. The Twin Cities will still need fixing, your schools will be crowded, but you’ll have the nice warm feeling that comes from not giving into millionaires and billionaires. Good for you.

  17. ruvelligwebuike says: May 7, 2012 10:17 AM

    What you Viking fans need is one of those colorful dragon costumes that about 30 people walk underneath…you see them at Chinese celebrations.

    Then you waltz it into the session and say, “Minnesota, these people are from Nepal. It is their culture!” Then they move the dragon’s mouth and say, “Vote Yes for Stadium.”

    The legislature erupts, “YES! Are you getting this on video? Look at the masterful art on that thing. The CULTURE!” They pass the bill in seconds.

    The sessions for the rest of the the next decade are full of things that Minnesotans and their politicians hold dear. Which are, of course, sitting around doing nothing and talking about how much more high-society they are than all of the hicks in the rest of the country. Specifically, about that time when the Chinese dragon came into the legislative session and how the hicks from Wisconsin couldn’t even think about handling such an amazing cultural experience.

  18. lightcleric says: May 7, 2012 10:17 AM

    The House will have more people in it than that Vikings rally did the other day…lol

  19. superjroch says: May 7, 2012 10:17 AM

    The vast majority of Minnesotans want professional sporting arenas to be funded privately. Hopefully our legislators will listen to us. This is a state that had a government shutdown in 2011, and will have another in 2013. But we’re somehow coming up with $450M to build a stadium? How bizarre.

  20. dcviking says: May 7, 2012 10:22 AM

    Or, maybe we could walk in drunk with a piece of bratwurst on our shirt, wearing a blaze orange leisure suit holding our sister’s hand….

    Wait…that only works east of the Mississippi…

  21. AlohaMrHand says: May 7, 2012 10:33 AM

    vote NO!!!!Go Los Angeles Football Lakers!

  22. chris6523 says: May 7, 2012 10:35 AM

    Should be easy enough to handicap. Are there more Minnesota Tea Partiers or Vikings fans who are eligible to vote in the state?

    __________________________________

    Nice try, but the only thing this statement shows is your complete misunderstanding of the Tea Party movement. The big hang up with the tea party is the obvious bloated government, specifically at the federal level, but in many cases at the state level. If this project has a very specific funding source and a specific termination date for that funding source, there are quite a few tea party types who would favor the deal. Given that there is only only thin majority of democrats voting in favor (and if you take out the twin cities democrats, a majority of democrats voting against) you can see that there is a segment of strong opposition to this on both sides of the political spectrum.

    In 2003, Brown County passed by referendum a .5% sales tax increase for the Lambeau Field project. This couldn’t have happened if tea party types had uniformly opposed it. In fact, most of the opposition came from the political left. As I described earlier, this tax has a very specific purpose and a very specific termination date.

  23. lbpackfan says: May 7, 2012 10:36 AM

    Hopefully this thing gets worked out…as fun as it is to tease our rival Viking friends, Packers, Bears and Lions fan do NOT wanna see this crumble and Vikes leave. Black and Blue division should never be touched!!!

  24. cobaltdriver says: May 7, 2012 10:37 AM

    If the Vikes left I’d most likely be done with pro football. I’d miss my team but most definitely wouldn’t miss talking to packer fans…

    I am sure they won’t miss you Cryking “fans” either. I for one will enjoy being able to read about football again instead of having to constantly read 7th grader comments about the Packers and their fans. Seriously, look in the mirror and get over yourselves.

  25. sclement65 says: May 7, 2012 10:40 AM

    I never want to see teams leave their cities. But, with the constant whining and hate towards the Saints from Viking fans, I hope they head to Cal.

  26. pickleman77 says: May 7, 2012 10:44 AM

    Pass the damn stadium bill! We Vikings fans are due for some GOOD news for once! And anyone who says “we” don’t want the team needs to shove it. The Dome has been sold out since 1998, and the Vikings are watched by 70% of Minnesotans every Sunday!

  27. fngs1 says: May 7, 2012 10:44 AM

    As a Pack fan, I really hope they do it get it passed. Just wouldn’t be the same without them in our division.

  28. zaggs says: May 7, 2012 10:49 AM

    don’t think either the NFL or Vikings are that serious. If they were, they would have kicked in more money. Not even willing to pay half? Are they serious? If they would have kicked in 200 mil more, done deal.

  29. expertop says: May 7, 2012 10:52 AM

    dcviking says:
    May 7, 2012 10:22 AM
    Or, maybe we could walk in drunk with a piece of bratwurst on our shirt, wearing a blaze orange leisure suit holding our sister’s hand….

    Wait…that only works east of the Mississippi…
    ———————————————————-
    The state capitol is east of the Mississippi, at least relative to Minneapolis everything west of it. But I assume that’s a jab at Packer fans. Next time throw in a reference to drinking paint thinner, lighter fluid or mouth wash.

  30. matthewcarlson1 says: May 7, 2012 11:06 AM

    Finally an insult for our team that makes a bit of sense.. Crykings, thats pretty funny.. Better than Vikqueens because that doesnt even make sense. but anyways did a vikings fan offend you or somthing?

  31. pickleman77 says: May 7, 2012 11:10 AM

    sclement65 – You have THE WORST fans in the nation, you know that? And it’s because of A$$hats like you!!!! Your sense of entitlement and delusions of grandeur are stunning. Only a SAINTS fan would be so classless. It just proves that you Saints fans are just like your team. Arrogant pigs.

  32. textexington says: May 7, 2012 11:10 AM

    CAN’T WAIT to see the Viqueefs leave Minnehaha. Think about how drastically face paint sales will decrease in the TC! LOLZ.Go Pack Go!!!

  33. cobaltdriver says: May 7, 2012 11:20 AM

    Wait…that only works east of the Mississippi…

    You mean in St Paul? Seriously, get over yourselves..both your states are mirror images of each other.

  34. glac1 says: May 7, 2012 11:22 AM

    Will the state give a billionaire a handout only a year after they had to shut down the state because they’re already broke… I doubt it.

  35. conormacleod says: May 7, 2012 11:24 AM

    The most baffling posts are the ones from Packer fans that say they don’t care. I hate the Packers! I love hating the Packers. I would never want to give up that rivalry. What, you’ll be excited with the rivalry of the Rams?

    As far as the legislature, I would vote every incumbent out of office, if the stadium is built or not. You simply cannot have people representing you that are afraid to vote on a tough bill. Vote yes or no, but these guys were elected to make the tough decisions for their constituents.

  36. wludford says: May 7, 2012 11:25 AM

    Minnesotans, Vikings Fans- Contact your legislators, express your support for a new stadium! It’s not too late and your voice matters! Google ‘MN Legislature’ to get your legislator’s contact information and call or email them today!

  37. warrenmoon says: May 7, 2012 11:25 AM

    Gotta wonder about the under the table offers these politicians are getting from the groups in LA. Common we all know they do not get into politics because the job itself has such a high salary. It’s the “perks”

  38. greengayfackers says: May 7, 2012 11:34 AM

    textexington says:May 7, 2012 11:10 AMCAN’T WAIT to see the Viqueefs leave Minnehaha. Think about how drastically face paint sales will decrease in the TC! LOLZ.Go Pack Go!!!

    Your sisters’ waiting in the bedroom for you. She said something about her and your mom are ready for you.

  39. jimmysee says: May 7, 2012 11:36 AM

    cobaltdriver says:
    May 7, 2012 11:20 AM

    Wait…that only works east of the Mississippi…

    You mean in St Paul? Seriously, get over yourselves..both your states are mirror images of each other.

    ————————————————

    Your comment is very true. But civil wars are the most brutal.

    And you know the joke, “What is Minnesota alzheimers?”

    That’s when you forget everything except the old Packers grudges.

  40. purplecrowe says: May 7, 2012 11:40 AM

    clear2me says:
    May 7, 2012 10:13 AM
    Sarcasm intended…..I don’t care, I’m a Packer fan and I own shares in my team.

    Well gooood for you, you own a $100 certificate, ie; piece of paper with no ownership privileges…

  41. squared80 says: May 7, 2012 11:45 AM

    Some of you guys are clueless. This isn’t the Jaguars or the Rams, here. The Twin Cities are a Vikings town, and it’s not even close. That’s why every game is sold out even during a 3-13 season.

    If they don’t get a stadium, it’s not because the people don’t want it. It’s because the idiot politicians can’t trade enough votes to one another. The Minnnesota legislature is one of the most pathetic in the country these days.

  42. purplecrowe says: May 7, 2012 11:46 AM

    Or…were you being sarcastic meaning you actually do care?

  43. squared80 says: May 7, 2012 11:48 AM

    Any Packers fan who says they want the Vikings to leave are obviously not football fans. That’s like the Broncos wanting the Chiefs or Raiders to leave, or visa versa. You guys are pathetic.

  44. pickleman77 says: May 7, 2012 11:49 AM

    Why on Earth would a Packer fan-or any NFC North Fan-WANT the Vikings to leave? It’s called a RIVALRY. And it’s what makes football great.

  45. thankheavenfornumberseven says: May 7, 2012 11:56 AM

    largent80 says:May 7, 2012 9:49 AM

    Should be easy enough to handicap. Are there more Minnesota Tea Partiers or Vikings fans who are eligible to vote in the state?
    __________

    This is one tea partier who wants the bill to pass. It doesn’t involve new taxes and it’s cheaper to do it now than to try to attract a new team later.

  46. lbpackfan says: May 7, 2012 11:58 AM

    purplecrowe says:
    May 7, 2012 11:40 AM
    clear2me says:
    May 7, 2012 10:13 AM
    Sarcasm intended…..I don’t care, I’m a Packer fan and I own shares in my team.

    Well gooood for you, you own a $100 certificate, ie; piece of paper with no ownership privileges…

    It’s unique…something no other fans of teams can say they have. It’s like memorabilia…it’s like that autographed Gary Anderson picture you have from 1998 NFC Championship game…..yeah, something like that.

  47. TSizzleBallSoHard says: May 7, 2012 12:04 PM

    I don’t get why they don’t put the Stadium Bill up for public referendum? Why not let the people decide?

  48. glac1 says: May 7, 2012 12:24 PM

    Latest reports indicate they will fall about 11 votes short………………………

  49. tombradysponytail says: May 7, 2012 12:28 PM

    TSizzleBallSoHard says:May 7, 2012 12:04 PM

    I don’t get why they don’t put the Stadium Bill up for public referendum? Why not let the people decide?
    —-

    It’s not like they’re calling it “The People’s Stadium” or anything….

  50. supermariojosh says: May 7, 2012 12:30 PM

    squared80 says: May 7, 2012 11:45 AM

    Some of you guys are clueless. This isn’t the Jaguars or the Rams, here. The Twin Cities are a Vikings town, and it’s not even close. That’s why every game is sold out even during a 3-13 season.
    ————————————————
    Count me in as one of the die hard Packer fans that wants the stadium to pass. Let’s not kid ourselves though. Half of the Viking “sell outs” are done thanks to the local Fox affiliate buying the remaining 1,000 – 2,000 tickets leftover. That said, part of the problem in truly selling out the Metrodome is that it’s such a pile of poo that people don’t want to go and watch a game there. Despite most of the Viking fans I know being clueless about football, despite the Vikings having the ugliest uniforms in pro sports, despite them being a worthless franchise that has never won anything of consequence – keep them in Minnesota so I can keep waving the Pack’s four Lombardis in their faces! Here’s to the rivalry MN losers!

  51. NationalFlagFootballLeague says: May 7, 2012 12:32 PM

    0 – 4 in Super Bowls

    0 – 1 in Stadium referendums

    Just blame the Saints

  52. mnvikes7897 says: May 7, 2012 12:38 PM

    Packer fans are a$$ clowns. If you’re that dedicated and proud then go on the field and play a couple of downs so that some one can knock the bratwurst and beer straight out your dumb cheese curd a$$es. Ever since I moved here from Cinci all I hear during football season is dumb big mouth morons. Just because you own worthless stock and wear the UGLIEST jersey in history doesn’t mean you did sh!t but get drunk at a game and touch your cousin. Please for the love of all that not you, sign up for lobotomies.

  53. In the Weeds says: May 7, 2012 12:47 PM

    Funny, how the Packers raised all kinds of money for Lambeau Field by selling stock–and Bricks of Dirt, during renovations (for charity).

    While everyone is blaming mushwit politicians, they might also consider how the Vikings organization has been operating over the years, from the Love Boat to the relentless kiss-ups to Brett Pevre, (who will soon testify, ho ho), and everything else.

    I think just about everyone is glad they don’t have to live where they elect a wrestler as governor and a crosseyed dingbat as a senator.

    If the Vikings disappear, we football fans will notice–for about two years.

  54. theytukrjobs says: May 7, 2012 12:48 PM

    The State of MN is better off with a world class arena than without one. The Vikings being tenants and paying 45% of the total cost to use it for their events 15 days a year is the only way economically for the State to be world class and have those types of events. This is a partnership for a state owned facility that we can be proud of. Wreslemania, political conventions, motocross, monster trucks, U2, Final Four, Super bowl.

    1st Rate cities get this stuff. I don’t want to be embarrassed to be a Minnesotan. I like the idea of living in a city that has world class entertainment and is relevant country wide. Pass the stupid bill. It is a GREAT bill because the 16th largest NFL market is extracting the 3rd largest private contribution ever for a state owned arena of this size. Our politicians are just too stupid to see what a good deal they’ve already negotiated for us.

    This is a terrific, mutually beneficial partnership. The opposition is not educated on the subject. When you listen to ANY politician that opposes this they all say the same thing. “Well, I would support it if *insert minor detail* was slightly different”. or “well my focus is *insert other issue* and I don’t want to vote for this without some help there”.

    Not once has a politician said “the State is better off with no stadium and no NFL than it is by building a world class arena”. Not once has a single politician said that this deal is worse than the likely alternative that comes with voting against it.

    That tells you something about the politicians that we’ve elected. Children stamping their feet that would rather not have a birthday at all if they can’t go to chucky cheese.

  55. sclement65 says: May 7, 2012 12:53 PM

    sclement65 – You have THE WORST fans in the nation, you know that? And it’s because of A$$hats like you!!!! Your sense of entitlement and delusions of grandeur are stunning. Only a SAINTS fan would be so classless. It just proves that you Saints fans are just like your team. Arrogant pigs.

    Classless, is constantly getting on this site and crying about the NFC Championship game and saying our Title is tainted. Don’t turn the ball over 5 times and have a QB that made a career of thowing stupid interceptions. Saints fan have been hearing that crap for 3 years now. By the way, real tough behind a computer.

  56. jimmysee says: May 7, 2012 12:59 PM

    If this thing fails — it’s clearly on the shoulders of the Republitards and their tea party masters.

    The democratic gov supports it — and the DFL (demos) — having less than 50% of the assembly — have pledged half the votes needed for it to pass.

  57. supermariojosh says: May 7, 2012 1:00 PM

    mnvikes7897 says: May 7, 2012 12:38 PM

    Packer fans are a$$ clowns. If you’re that dedicated and proud then go on the field and play a couple of downs so that some one can knock the bratwurst and beer straight out your dumb cheese curd a$$es. Ever since I moved here from Cinci all I hear during football season is dumb big mouth morons. Just because you own worthless stock and wear the UGLIEST jersey in history doesn’t mean you did sh!t but get drunk at a game and touch your cousin. Please for the love of all that not you, sign up for lobotomies.
    ————————————–
    You raise a good point – instead of talking about and supporting the Packers I’ll run out on the field and play with them. Brilliant take man. Whatever team you support, I expect you’ll do the same.

    I’ll make you a deal. You ignore the stupid Packer trolls on here and pay attention to the vast majority of Packer fans that want the Vikings to stay, and I’ll ignore you. Deal?

  58. mansers says: May 7, 2012 1:07 PM

    Pickle Boy, you are full of ViQueen Crap. They never sell out, unless the local businesses buy up the remaining 10,000 tickets each week, otherwise you would never never see a home game, Queen boy

  59. sclement65 says: May 7, 2012 1:09 PM

    1st Rate cities get this stuff. I don’t want to be embarrassed to be a Minnesotan.

    Wait, electing a Wrestler for Gov and a Comic for Senator wasn’t enough to embarrassed you to be a Minnesotan.

  60. mansers says: May 7, 2012 1:11 PM

    Square80, u too lie, the ViQueen never never sell out unless the local businesses buy up 10,ooo tickets each week, bs queen boy number 2

  61. mullman7675 says: May 7, 2012 1:12 PM

    With all the revenue that the NFL generates I don’t understand why it can’t substantially subsidize new stadium projects. They benefit directly from having their teams play in modern/state of the art facilites. It’s a shame that the taxpayers are forced to bear the burden and then be expected to dish out big $$$ for tickets/parking/ hot dogs and beer. It is what it is, I guess…

  62. bunjy96 says: May 7, 2012 1:20 PM

    And if it passes, with no referendum for the people to vote, expect a law suit.

  63. northstars1991 says: May 7, 2012 1:24 PM

    Being a Viking fan for the last 15 years has been hell as our team has been subject to relocation threats for YEARS! Even though the Vikings signed a 30 year lease backed by former honorable commissioner Pete Rozelle, the NFL cannot be trusted! The Vikings should be owned by Minnesotans NOT billionaires from San Antonio, TX and NY! The Green Bay Packers are owned by their fans and not only are a small market team but a model franchise! Sick and tired of 120 multi Billionaires dictating the emotions of a 100,000,000 Sports fans in America!

  64. racksie says: May 7, 2012 1:44 PM

    So people I didn’t vote for(Dems and Rep’s are funded by the same corprations, I vote Independant. Jesse predicted this financial mess, by the way. And the Dems and Reps made sure they would never have to deal with a third party, messing up their private party) are going to spend MY money to fund a billlionaire, to develop real estate, when he made his billions building real estate? Yep, no need for a third party here. Just move along and ignore reality.

  65. taintedsaints2009 says: May 7, 2012 1:45 PM

    this idea that “the state of MN will be better off with a new vikings stadium than without one.”

    gee. what great logic. i could name probably 1000 things MN would be better off with than not having.

    good lord the stupidity of sports fans is just alarming.

  66. thankheavenfornumberseven says: May 7, 2012 1:45 PM

    jimmysee says:May 7, 2012 12:59 PM

    If this thing fails — it’s clearly on the shoulders of the Republitards and their tea party masters.

    The democratic gov supports it — and the DFL (demos) — having less than 50% of the assembly — have pledged half the votes needed for it to pass.
    _________

    The governor may support it but he isn’t willing to do anything to compromise with the Republicans to get their votes. He vetoes everything they pass and then expects them to vote for his pet project.

  67. racksie says: May 7, 2012 1:50 PM

    sclement65 says: May 7, 2012 1:09 PM

    1st Rate cities get this stuff. I don’t want to be embarrassed to be a Minnesotan.

    Wait, electing a Wrestler for Gov and a Comic for Senator wasn’t enough to embarrassed you to be a Minnesotan.

    Jesse Ventura was a good governor. He predicted this financial mess we are in, and his only problem was he was not a Democrat, or a Republican. People who rip Jesse are ignorant. Or Democrats or Republicans. Actually, all three. Know your rights, and your facts.

  68. beeronthefridge says: May 7, 2012 2:07 PM

    Somebody please explain to me why 61 Democrats cannot support the measure?

  69. NoHomeTeam says: May 7, 2012 2:16 PM

    wayne1693 says: “I really like the fact that the Commish is strongly in favor of keeping franchises where they are. Even though lots of powerful people are ‘moving & shaking’ to get a franchise in L.A….many of Commissioner Goodell’s statements and actions evidence that stability is important to him, and that expansion is the better way to eventually get a franchise to L.A. . . . ”

    Roger Goodell > Paul Tagliabu

    As a long-time Southern California resident who emigrated from the Upper Midwest, I would a) Love to have an NFL team back here, and b) would hate for that team to be the Vikings.

    Sadly, expansion is simply not going to happen.

    First, it would upset the current structure of the divisions and the conferences. The math is just perfect; the League is not going to go back to unbalanced divisions. You can’t just add one team. Even if you operate on the premise that the League would realign to make room for an expansion franchise, it still wouldn’t work. If the NFL were to go back to 3 Divisions per conference, you would need to add 4 teams to make the math work (3 Divisions of 6 teams each = 18 teams per Conference or 36 teams total). So LA is one. Where are the other 3 going to go? Toronto? Mexico City? London? None of these is remotely realistic.

    Secondly (actually, probably primarily, is the matter of money. While the League would no doubt extort an expansion fee somewhere in the neighborhood of $1B, there is the matter of the NFL’s primary source of income. With an additional team, the owners would have to split the TV contracts 33 ways (if you ignore the above paragraph) instead of 32. In the long run, 31 owners and the Packers organization lose money. There’s only so big the TV pie can grow, and I think we’re pretty close to it. Absent a new revenue stream tied to the expansion team that compensates for a smaller slice of the pie, there’s no way the NFL goes for it.

    Just give us back the team that the Wicked Witch of the NFC West stole from us, and we’ll call it good.

  70. pickleman77 says: May 7, 2012 3:24 PM

    sclement65 – Like I said – you are the worst of the worst in football. This issue has nothing to do with your 2009 Superbowl. See, that’s how I know you are a worthless football fan. You are too stupid to see the forest for the trees. Teams need to STAY PUT. THAT’s the issue here. And I’ve said before that I agree the the bounties had nothing to do with the 09 championship games. The Vikings were DESTROYING the Saints in that game and we beat ourselves with stupid plays. (5 turnovers and we STILL only lost with a FG in OT.) Your dirty little bounty scheme wasn’t enough to help you against the 49′ers, was it? And it wasn’t enough to help you against the Vikings, either. You are a worthless piece of flesh and should start following Golf. You don’t deserve to call yourself a fan. (And judging by the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” votes, people agree with me.)

  71. pickleman77 says: May 7, 2012 3:27 PM

    Mansers – Or should we call you “Man Boobs?” Do you live in Minnesota? No? Then shut your mouth. 10,000 tickets per game? You are pulling that number out of your a$$. Just like most of the things you say here.

  72. sclement65 says: May 7, 2012 4:15 PM

    pickleman77 says:
    May 7, 2012 3:24 PM
    sclement65 – Like I said – you are the worst of the worst in football. This issue has nothing to do with your 2009 Superbowl. See, that’s how I know you are a worthless football fan. You are too stupid to see the forest for the trees. Teams need to STAY PUT. THAT’s the issue here. And I’ve said before that I agree the the bounties had nothing to do with the 09 championship games. The Vikings were DESTROYING the Saints in that game and we beat ourselves with stupid plays. (5 turnovers and we STILL only lost with a FG in OT.) Your dirty little bounty scheme wasn’t enough to help you against the 49′ers, was it? And it wasn’t enough to help you against the Vikings, either. You are a worthless piece of flesh and should start following Golf. You don’t deserve to call yourself a fan. (And judging by the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” votes, people agree with me.)

    Ha Ha, didn’t we beat your Vikings. We didn’t commit one penalty against the 49′ers, so maybe this bounty crap is just that crap. Unlike Viking fans, we do understand that 5 TO will lose the game for you and guest what, we still lost in the final seconds. But, we don’t whine like you guys. I do agree teams should stay put. But, all you freaking Viking fans do is whine, which doesn’t make people sympathic to your cause.

  73. lnfinite says: May 7, 2012 11:36 PM

    Bill passed! Now the trolls can go hide under their rocks yet again. The Vikings are NOT leaving MN!

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