Upon further review, Andrew Luck can’t use Jim Irsay’s plane

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On Monday night, Florio pointed out a potential problem with Colts owner Jim Irsay offering his private plane to quarterback Andrew Luck to help facilitate meetings between Luck and his receivers until Luck is free to rejoin the Colts in June.

The issue had to do with the salary cap rules. Giving Luck the use of the plane would constitute providing him with something of value that would then have to fit under the cap and the rookie pool. The same would be true of plane tickets, bus tickets or anything else that would help Luck get to the same place as one of his receivers. Some of those options are a lot less pricey than the use of a private plane and it seems the Colts will have to explore those if they want to kick in for Luck’s travel expenses.

The league didn’t have a comment for Florio, but they have grounded Irsay’s plane. Chris Mortensen of ESPN and Mike Chappell of the Indianapolis Star both report that Luck will have to find a different way of working out with his teammates between now and the June 7th end of the Stanford semester.

The good news for Luck is that he has two receivers — tight end Coby Fleener and wide receiver Griff Whalen — with him in Palo Alto. Austin Collie lives in Sacramento, which isn’t too far away, but the restriction might limit how often Luck can work with Miami resident Reggie Wayne.

37 responses to “Upon further review, Andrew Luck can’t use Jim Irsay’s plane

  1. Pretty sure that Ross Tucker pointed out the potential problem on Twitter and that Florio just reposted Tucker’s question and then followed up with the league.

  2. Not trying to be picky here, but I don’t think Florio broke wind of this first.

    I could very well be wrong but I thought Ross Tucker pointed this out first on Moving the Chains …. NFL Talk Sirius XM radio?

  3. So is the plane that takes the team to the away games and the bus to and from the stadium also going against the cap? As far as I see it all the colts are doing is providing transportation for team Members.

  4. Simple solution: Irsay sends his plane down to FL. and gives Wayne a free ride to Cal. to work out with Luck. Problem solved.

  5. I think this presents a perfect opportunity for Andrew to step up and show that he truly will be a team leader willing to do whatever it takes to make the Colts winners. He should dip into that signing bonus and provide Reggie with First Class transportation and accomodations for at least a few days or a couple of weeks between now and June 7. I think Reggie is smart enough to understand that Andrew is still in college and has some committments there so my guess is he’d be willing to make the trip to work with Andrew and the others in Palo Alto. What could it possibly cost Andrew, evn at $500 / day for hotel and $2,000 for a plane ticket, it wouldn’t cost more than $7,000. Big numbers for an average Joe but when you are going to sign for $22M plus, pocket change and would go a long, long way top showing the veterans that he’s in it to win it.

  6. So the folks in the comments section of Florio’s article knew what they were talking about, but Irsay did not?

    Sounds about right.

  7. Lets see…
    Reggies Wayne just signed for 17.5 mil…
    Luck is about to sign for alot more…
    Plane ticket from MIA to SFO cost ~$400…
    Yea, I think they can swing it, why is this news?

  8. wouldn’t this be considered a work related expense? Its not like he is flying him to an Island to party. He would be using the plane for work related issues.

  9. Don’t you mean that others pointed this out and Florio used their pointing for an article? He didn’t put any concern about it in his initial article covering the plane declaration, but fans pointed it out in comments and Ross Tucker pointed it out on Twitter, which Florio used to springboard off of.

  10. I don’t see how this would be an issue, if Luck were allowed to participate in practices. However the whole reason he is going back to Stanford is because he isn’t allowed to work, and thus any use of that plane would be person use, and even if it weren’t construed as personal use, then it would be for him to then join a sanctioned work out which would violate the CBA.

  11. Just sign him quicker. I am sure there will be a sizable signing bonus, then he will have plenty of money to travel.

  12. But Luck hasn’t officially signed yet. Theoretically he could never sign and go back into the draft next year.

    If Luck is unsigned and use of the plane would count against the cap, then why doesn’t it count against the cap when free agents are flown into suitor cities?? Additionally when a player experiences a sudden tragedy, use of the private jet would count against the cap right?

  13. “However the whole reason he is going back to Stanford is because he isn’t allowed to work, and thus any use of that plane would be person use”

    Exactly, someone gets it. Also, to everyone saying that its only a couple hundred dollars, do you really think you can rent a private jet to be on standby and take you anywhere you want to go for a couple hundred dollars? Because that’s what was offered.

  14. Really, just buy your own damn plane then luck. Or would that be how some squander away there millions.

  15. Folks, as far as the NFL is concerned, the Colts own Luck. They own his rights. He’s, at best, like a restricted free agent. And flying a free agent in and out for a visit isn’t the same as what is being offered here.

  16. Next thing you know the Colts will be investigated for flying the team to Dungy’s son’s funeral in Tampa Bay.

  17. I hope Irsay and the Colts get fined and docked a draft pick for this. I can’t stand those pill popping, boozing Irsays, everything about them seems sleezy.

  18. @stevebozeman,

    Exactly. This whole thing would not even be an issue if he had not tweeted about it. I think half of his problems comes from his twitter account.

  19. I’m pretty sure the Redskins have let out there owners plane to players many time. How about another cap hit there?

  20. goredskins11 says:
    May 8, 2012 12:16 PM
    @stevebozeman,

    Exactly. This whole thing would not even be an issue if he had not tweeted about it. I think half of his problems comes from his twitter account.

    —————————————————-
    This ‘issue’ came from an IndyStar article, not his twitter.

  21. raiderinva says: May 8, 2012 9:53 AM

    Not trying to be picky here, but I don’t think Florio broke wind of this first.

    I could very well be wrong but I thought Ross Tucker pointed this out first on Moving the Chains …. NFL Talk Sirius XM radio?

    _________________________________

    If Tucker was not first, Andrew Brandt may have been. AB was calling this shot last night via Twitter.

    This site used to be a great spot to get actual football news. Lately PFT has become little more than a clearing house for the work of others.

  22. Is this really about counting against the cap? I doubt it. It would just be a business expense, just like the cost to travel to away games, training camp, hotels, etc. Problem is that it can’t be categorized as a business expense because that would be admitting to extra team sponsored OTAs. I’m sure that was the message the league conveyed and then resulted in the grounding of Irsay’s plane. Has nothing to do with whether Luck is signed or not. All about penalties for violation of the CBA.

  23. All because Irsay gets hammered and starts posting his business on twitter. He is like a 12 year old girl. He just owns a God awful sports team.

  24. The Colts need to hire some SEC coaches to get around the salary caps. They’re masters at circumventing NCAA rules with in paying off , er getting recruits to come to their school with “special” slot machines, “donations” to parents’ churches, free housing, special handshakes, hoes, etc.

  25. Luck should just say that the owner got all liquored up and ran his mouth.

    HTTR!!!!!

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