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Cowboys-Redskins hearing tomorrow

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It was reported last month that a hearing will be held on May 10 in the case of the $46 million in cap space stripped from the Redskins and Cowboys for taking the term “uncapped year” too literally in 2010.

Since tomorrow is May 10, it’s worth reminding everyone that the hearing is coming.

Mark Maske of the Washington Post reports that the hearing will proceed without witnesses or evidence, focusing instead on jurisdictional issues, such as whether the Cowboys and Redskins have any rights at all, given that the NFLPA agreed to the removal of the cap space.  It seems, then, that the hearing will focus on the motion to dismiss that the NFL filed in response to the grievance, which contends that the NFLPA’s agreement to the cap penalties prevents the teams from attacking it.

As a result, it undoubtedly means that a second hearing will be held if/when Special Master Stephen Burbank allows the grievance to proceed.

Which means that this issue won’t be resolved any time soon.

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  1. peacensapp says: May 9, 2012 3:35 PM

    So the uncapped year really wasn’t uncapped?

  2. blackqbwhiterb says: May 9, 2012 3:39 PM

    Unbelievable…………What a mess and an obvious sham. Shame on the owners who backed this up, shame on the Players Association who sold their souls signing off on this and shame on Frank Mara for ignoring the same sin committed by the Bears and several others, only choosing to mete out punishment on his NFC East foes!!

  3. bigredscouting says: May 9, 2012 3:39 PM

    The Redskins nor the Cowboys broke any rules. Warnings or not, there were never rules in place in about spending in an uncapped year because it was an UNCAPPED YEAR. The NFL ok’d every deal these teams did. Meaning the NFL knew that they were going to penalize the teams later on. The NFL then strong armed the NFLPA into agreeing with the fines because if the NFLPA didn’t, there would have been a significantly lower cap. The NFL didn’t care if teams wildly underspent during the uncapped year. Even more proof that Roger Goodell and the NFL don’t care about the players. Like I said it’s very simple. The NFL wants to be judge, jury and executioner. They have no one to answer to and will continue their wild west justice until someone steps to them. That’s what the NFLPA is for and they also have failed their job.

  4. jenniferxxx says: May 9, 2012 3:39 PM

    Two rich boys and their high priced lawyers. Sounds like a movie. One that would go directly to DVD.

  5. daysend564 says: May 9, 2012 3:40 PM

    @peacensapp
    It was if you are in the same division as Mara. It wasn’t if you were a team like the Bears.

  6. unitedstateoftexas says: May 9, 2012 3:43 PM

    When Jerry Jones’ ego collides with Dan Snyder’s ego it will rip a hole through the fabric of the space time continuum allowing Jason Garrett and Mike Shanahan to travel back in time and stop the evil GoodMara from stealing the coveted Cap Space.

  7. bozosforall says: May 9, 2012 3:46 PM

    Mark Maske of the Washington Post reports that the hearing will proceed without witnesses or evidence,
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    Goodell must have had the witnessed “offed” and destroyed all of the evidence for this to be the case.

  8. clw1906 says: May 9, 2012 3:48 PM

    Anyone that minimizes this to the Redskins and Cowboy owners obviously hasn’t read any more than a heading.

  9. FinFan68 says: May 9, 2012 3:50 PM

    It seems, then, that the hearing will focus on the motion to dismiss that the NFL filed in response to the grievance, which contends that the NFLPA’s agreement to the cap penalties prevents the teams from attacking it.
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    I can understand how the NFLPA’s agreement would prevent or dissuade players from attacking it, but how could that effect the teams?

    I think both teams manipulated the system to circumvent the cap issues and gain advantage in future years (not the uncapped year) but the league office authorized every single contract. It shows poor foresight on the part of the league and not “collusion” as many have attempted to claim.

  10. vikingamericann says: May 9, 2012 3:51 PM

    I’m not sure the Saints received the harshest penalties this year. 32 million in cap space over two years cost you 3 star players. Two second round picks can be made up in free agency. Skins and Cowboys got Goodelled for no good reason.

  11. nineroutsider says: May 9, 2012 3:59 PM

    You guys crack me up! Who is supposed to take this serious: “It was if you are in the same division as Mara. It wasn’t if you were a team like the Bears”, other than Skins and Boys fans? What a joke!

    “Case Dismissed!” is what you boys will hear tomorrow. The hearing has no merit, the Cowboys and Redskins have no standing. It’s all over tomorrow.

    Great arguments by the way; hope that your teams don’t use it (if they get far enough along)…

  12. jakek2 says: May 9, 2012 4:07 PM

    Don’t blame Mara, blame Goodell. As the arbitrary and capricious king of the NFL (which really does mean Not For Long with that dooshlord in contrl), he could have easily said that the Skins and Cowboys broke no rules.

  13. bryans49ers says: May 9, 2012 4:14 PM

    What a crooked league this is

  14. cooklynn17 says: May 9, 2012 4:23 PM

    Oh yeah? Well the Cowboys and Redskins aren’t going to Like it. Rodger Goodell is on a roll.

    Bend over its coming.

  15. raiderfankirk says: May 9, 2012 4:36 PM

    I’m sure Jerry has already thought about what Al Davis would do. Hope he sues and rips Roger a new one.

  16. daysend564 says: May 9, 2012 4:48 PM

    @nineroutsider

    Perhaps you have a logical explanation of why the Cowboys are getting dinged for a $17M cap dump on Miles Austin. The Bears had a $35M cap dump on Julius Peppers, yet they were recipients of $1.2M of Cowboys & Redskins cap space.

    In fact, 8 teams had cap dumps similar to the Cowboys/Austin and Redskins/Haynesworth, but were not punished at all.

    The ruling came down from the chairman of the competition committee, who happens to be John Mara. Mara also tried to get draft picks removed but had that blocked.

  17. nflfan83 says: May 9, 2012 5:58 PM

    Can someone explain how the panthers can give Charles Johnson a 6 yr contract for $72mill and then front load it in an uncapped year (paid $34mill!!!) and not face any punishment? They made the guy the highest paid player in the league! They deserve money from the Redskins and the Cowboys?

  18. ahsinnyc says: May 9, 2012 6:19 PM

    A lot has been written about this, and it smells from head to toe. But two points that has Mara’s finger prints all over it – 1) for maximum “penetration” the league conveniently told Washington and Dallas less and 24-hours before FA starts and 2) Jerry is on the Executive Comittee.

  19. daninms says: May 9, 2012 6:23 PM

    How can this be a fair hearing if there are no witnesses or evidence ?

  20. daysend564 says: May 9, 2012 6:55 PM

    @nflfan83

    To be fair… Charles Johnson was the highest paid player. However, that was in 2011 that he made that money which was capped.

  21. TeamBalco says: May 9, 2012 7:37 PM

    Both teams will pay a small percentage fine and this should be the end of it.

  22. skinsfantom says: May 9, 2012 9:35 PM

    ‘Sall good, 3 is on the way

  23. rg3isvictory says: May 9, 2012 10:20 PM

    jenniferxxx says:
    May 9, 2012 3:39 PM
    Two rich boys and their high priced lawyers. Sounds like a movie. One that would go directly to DVD.

    ________________________________________________

    Moron!!!

  24. caps247 says: May 9, 2012 10:38 PM

    Why would the NFL knowingly approve what both teams did if they were planning to penalize them later? The Skins and Boys didn’t break any rules because… there WERE no rules against what they did.

    I’m starting to drift back to the generic conspiracy theory again.

  25. macwomack says: May 10, 2012 2:59 AM

    Bear with me on this ….

    The Patriots ended up with Haynesworth… they would never have traded for Haynesworth if the Skins didn’t redo the deal… thus the Patriots benefited from the restructured contract…. thus the Patriots circumvented the salary cap in the uncapped year and disrupted the competitive balance…

    After the ruling is upheld the Redskins need to simply enform the league they are transfering the pro-rata portion of their penalty attributable to the Haynesworth contract to the Patriots.
    Of course the Skins will also be expecting a pro rata share of the Salary Cap adjustment the rest of the league enjoyed.

    At this point I would just inform the league of this and let them know what I have calculated my cap to be … field the team with that cap number and force the league to go to the next step…

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