I don’t understand how you can’t see the most likely “motivation” for not releasing the evidence – people were promised confidentiality for telling the truth. What kind of person would Gooddell be if he promised players and coaches confidentiality, then released their statements?

Furthermore, what possible motiviation would Gooddell have to make this such an issue and go after the Saints? His #1 priority has been the image of the league. This does nothing but put a black eye on the league. The conspiracy theories don’t make any sense. If anything he would have been better served sweeping this under the rug.

If I didn’t kill anybody, can you still imprison me?

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Yes. Ever hear of conspiracy to commit murder?

To this day, no evidence has been produced to demonstrate that a player received money for inflicting injury or paid money to induce another player to do so.
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The existence of a bounty program does not require any evidence that a player received money for inflicting injury or paid money to induce another player to do so. If you say you will give someone $10,000 to knock Brett Favre out of the game, and no one does, it is still a bounty program.

this is about the only guy who makes sense.
comspiracy is still a crime. you dont have to injure some1 to be guilty. a bounty is not the act, a bounty is the conspiracy to commit the act. look at the fuucking loser who says ill give 10000 to knoch him out. got it on tape, that is guilty. no other evidense is necessary. the guy who got 8 games. he signed a affidavid that he knew about the bountys and participated.

There is always more to the issue and there might be very good reasons why the information is not being released.

If I am the player’s attorney, I am fighting the league to keep this information from coming out. The last thing they want is to hand the IRS a tax evasion case on a silver platter.

In any employee/contractor to company relationship, evidence is not required to inflict discipline after you are informed not to break policy or warned about rules violations.

This is why altheles should be required to finish college.

They should count their blessings that they haven’t been banned. You aren’t gonna lie to the Commish and get away with it. Just ask the Saints leadership..

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Sean Payton appealed his suspension, and it was heard by the same person who punished him.

Hey man, if Goodell were withholding evidence of a crime, that makes him an accomplice in the crime. I kinda doubt Goodell, former king of the NFL’s legal team, would ‘forget’ that basic factoid.

You wanna try again?

If it was one of the other team’s defenses involved someone might have actually been hurt.

And if you say you have commited murder yet there is no one missing nor any body found, legally there has been no crime commited. The law can not proscute a person of murder if there is no body. Understand????????
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I take it you’re not an attorney. Ever hear of attempted murder? No body but it’s still punishable.

I understand your frustration. The motivations of idiots are never easy to determine. However, you are off to a good start. You have identified fear as one possible motivation. The other part is stupidity. You see dumb people don’t value evidence. They hear something, believe it, and react angrily to anything that might contradict their original conclusion. Hope this helps.

hairpie says:
May 9, 2012 2:40 PM
Maybe Godell is gonna destroy the evidence to protect other teams, like he did with the Spygate “evidence” the Pats volunteered.

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Goodell destroyed the Spygate evidence to protect his butt buddy, Robert Kraft. Whole lotta butt buddying going on in New England as well.

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that doesnt make sense. why would Goddell leak the 6 plays they taped in NJ, yet destroy the evidence the Pats VOLUNTEERED …. unless of course, there were other teams on those tapes doing the same thing, which was the case after-all.

Why won’t the league show the players/attorneys the evidence?

Looks like evidence to me

Umm your citing Peter King, not the League. The NFLPA wants the NFL to follow the CBA and turn over the substantive evidence to them. They wont accept hearsay from a blogger.

Goodell and the NFL have made this — based on the suspensions, fines and penalties to the coaches, players and team — the worst infraction that ever occurred in NFL history. And the accused, the media, the fans have been given what in terms of hard evidence from this investigation??? Almost nothing concrete; just innuendo and “he said.”

The NFL’s spin is very telling (and I’m in the spin business) as to the weakness of their case. First they pointed to an exhaustive investigation with 50,000 pages of documents; later it was 18,000 pages of documents. Then they paraded out their “independent” legal guru , although it was quickly learned that she had represented and been paid by the NFL on previous cases. Then they released Anthony Hargrove’s statement and basically stated that he “knew of and participated in” the bounty program when a literal reading of the statement says no such thing. Tie it up with the league’s lead investigator resigning on a Friday afternoon, the fact that in its statement’s following the resignation the league tried to downplay that individual’s involvement in the investigation, and the fact that they are totally mum and silent on the heightening requests for specifics on the involvement of the sentenced individuals and it’s starting to get more than a little fishy.

For those of you who keep arguing “the new CBA allows Goodell to have sole authority” while that may be true, does that make the league’s actions in not providing those sentence any evidence the right thing to do??? Your taking away livelihoods here and impacting professional reputations, not to mention alienating a very long and loyal fan base in New Orleans. Bottom line, you could shut all this clatter up if you’ve got the goods you say you have, so why not release it??

And why are so many of you upset by the thought of that??

King also explains that defensive end Anthony Hargrove can be heard saying, “Favre is out of the game! Favre is done! Favre is done!”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/saints-defender-after-favre-injury-pay-me-my-money/

Looks like evidence to me.

… or go work in a different league.

They think they are riding higher horses than Goodell…….Well they are wrong in so many ways….

They signed the CBA……The coaches and GM admitted what was going on…Maybe all of the Saints players need to sign up for concussion tests?

Nobody except your biggest fans believes you anyone. Either prove it, say you lied, or keep quiet over in your corner while the rabbel rousing grows. Maybe it’ll stop before you’ve lost so much credibility that the owners replace you rather that keep riding the hit to public opinion (and possible money from said public,) that you’ve made yourself.

Maybe. Oh and have fun getting sued by just about every former player that’s ever been in the NFL. I’m sure your bosses and the public won’t hold you accoutable in any way.

All just a bunch of heresay. The commissioner is going to get his ass handed to him legally on this one.
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I guess everyone just doesn’t understand this. The Commissioner is protecting the original informants, whose names will come out with any disclosures. With the intelligence level exhibited on the player rep side, I’m sure this will eventually happen anyway. The Commissioner of the NFL, an attorney himself, will certainly not have “his ass handed to him legally”. All the player slappies will see once these guys are forced to start serving their suspensions.