Report: Rams want retractable roof

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The powers-that-be in St. Louis soon will be disclosing the full list of requests made by the Rams on May 1, in response to the initial proposal made by the Convention and Visitors Commission.

One major item, according to FOX 2 in St. Louis, is that the Rams want to raze the roof, and to replace it with a retractable lid.

The Rams included no cost estimate for what undoubtedly would be a costly feature.

If the Rams and the CVC can’t work out an agreement by June 15, the situation would go to non-binding arbitration.  Unless the two sides can work something out, the Rams would be free to leave after the 2014 season.

71 responses to “Report: Rams want retractable roof

  1. As a Colts season ticket holder, I can tell them it would be total waste of money. Its only open for maybe 1-2 games a year, and when its open it creates a oven effect because the wind cant blow through.

  2. Quote “The Rams included no cost estimate for what undoubtedly would be a costly feature.”

    Its ridiculous and unprofessional to submit a request without actually doing feasibility studies and cost analysis on your own! Its bad business etiquette and kinda of implies the request is not given in good faith.

  3. The Rams want to move back to LA, their original home, and want to make it look like it is the city’s fault. In this economy, they know that the hundred million, give or take, it will take to re-build the roof will not fly with either the local government or taxpayers in St. Louis. The good thing about stadiums is that a city can have an NFL team. The bad is that they host only 10 games a year and unless they plan on hosting the World Cup or the Rolling Stones every month, mostly in a city like St. Louis, the financials don’t work. St. Louis fans are very supportive and I don’t mean to be negative, but I think LA will be the home of the Rams in a year or two.

  4. Why? I dare any team to make a compelling argument that retractable roof stadiums are such a must have. St. Louis, you have pretty decent weather year round. I say if the local weather is adverse enough any month (or so) during the season that fans would rather stay home, you can have a dome if you want. Otherwise play football outside like you’re supposed to.

    On another note: Welcome back LA Rams?

  5. Why would they want a retractable roof? Just ditch the roof all together and convert to an open air stadium. Save millions

  6. St. Louis needs to spend that money on their decrepit sanitation and transportation infrastructure. Send the Rams back home…

    (Yes, I’m a 9er fan that cares about the Rams being back in LA – that was when the rivalry was good and a natural rival for us up in Northern California.)

  7. This is a red flag.

    Retractable roofs are hugely expensive and of dubious value. Very few teams ever play with their roofs open, and the roof would obviously be closed for events other than football.

    It would be even more expensive to retrofit a retractable roof onto a stadium that was not designed to have one. Not only would it be difficult to make the changes to the frame to support the track systems and other hardware, but who knows if the structure itself is even designed to support the added weight.

    Not impossible, but absurdly expensive and absolutely zero ROI.

    I am sure the Rams have consultants working for them who know this, which makes me very suspicious of their reasons for asking for it.

  8. ppc50 says:
    May 9, 2012 10:32 PM
    The Rams want to move back to LA, their original home, and want to make it look like it is the city’s fault.

    actually the original home of the Rams was in Cleveland.

  9. The Rams wouldn’t mind an open stadium, but the city wants to be able to use it for events during the winter time.

    The team got lured to St Louis with promises of a top tier facility for decades to come. Why wouldn’t they expect to get what they were promised?

  10. I went out to St. louis and to the dome for the Eagles-Rams championship game in January 2002. It was’ what, 6-7 years old at that time? All my buddy and kept saying was “wow, this place reminds me of new Comiskey Park and how it was a dump from pretty much the day it opened.” The NFL would have much better off if the 1994 expansion turned out like it was originally supposed to, the St. Louis Stallions and Baltimore Bombers. However, because Weaver and Richardson got the attention of Norman Braman (remember him?) and offered the visiting teams double the usual payout, we instead got the Jags and Panthers. Now, obviously Carolina has deserved their team. Jacksonville, no need to re-hash that here. The NFL would have been way better off if the 2002 expansion would have been Houston and Carolina. I think it’s gonna be déjà vu all over again for me. Just as I finally stopped calling the Raiders “Oakland” they moved back. Now that I hardly call the Rams “Los Angeles” anymore, they are gonna wind up back there.

  11. ppc50 Los Angeles was actually the Rams 2nd home because they were the first team to move out west when they relocated from Cleveland. Rams have been around a min or two.

  12. That would stupid to spend that money on a Dome that opened in 1995 when here in another 5 or 10 years after the retractable roof is slapped on the Rams start claiming the Stadium as a whole is out of date and can’t financially compete with some of the newer stadiums in the League. I’m sorry they are just looking for a way out but I’m hoping im wrong.

  13. with all the picks in the next few drafts they have a chance to build a dominating team…. one that could be good for the next 15 years.. new stadium might be worth it. Im Cowboys fan so I don’t really give a crap, just my thoughts

  14. Loved every post here! Entertaining! Just play football, people! The Cubs play at Wrigley, the BoSox play at Fenway. Those places, though beautifully historic, are dumps for the players and fans alike. This dome in St. Louis, has to be better than those (previously mentioned) stadiums, as far as comfort/room for fans to sit and walk around.

  15. RealityPolice:

    I am sure the Rams have consultants working for them who know this, which makes me very suspicious of their reasons for asking for it.
    _________________>_<________________

    In this case, I image the cynics are probably right. They want it because it's totally unreasonable and it might give them an excuse to move. It's pretty convenient timing now that it looks more and more like the Vikings are going to stay put.

  16. From what I have read it will be 3 years till the new stadium in LA is built and since the Vikings seem to be close to a deal and the Rams with an expiring lease after the 2014 season it would be perfect timing for the Rams to move again. Jeff Fisher seems like a Hollywood type guy and i’m sure the players would love the weather in LA over St.Louis. Or you could have the Chargers making the move.

  17. As others have said… how can you not feel this is a play to get back to that #2 market with a brand new stadium… What a stupid clause to have in a contract… All buildings age & everyone wants bigger & better… Man, I bet ownership was lickin’ their chops when they saw Jerry World being built.

  18. Why not? If they give Kroenke the roof he’ll find something else to ask for. Something that can’t be delivered.

    He is moving the team as soon as he can fond a way to ‘justify’ it.

  19. Think it’s coincidence that the Rams announce this the morning after the Minnesota Senate approved the Vikings Stadium?

    Dun-Dun-Dunnnn.. LA Rams!

  20. FULL CIRCLE

    PAST:
    1. St. Louis jilted in 1993 expansion to Jacksonville/Carolina
    2. St. Louis gives away the farm to lure Rams from LA in “Ben Dover” lease (nice job John Shaw)
    3. Georgia Frontiere passes
    4. Chip & Rosa need to sell the team
    5. Khan makes substanial offer
    6. Kronke exercises his right of first refusal
    7. Many meetings b/w Kronke & Khan….no animosity
    8. Khan buys Jaguars

    PRESENT:
    1. Kronke exercises his right to attempt to extort the St. Louis CVC in first tier clause ( of said B. Dover Lease)

    FUTURE:
    1. CVC/taxpayers will not succumb to Kronke’s untenable demands
    2. Rams to LA (2015)
    3. Jags continue to struggle in Jacksonville
    4. Jags move to St. Louis (& new stadium) in what becomes a full circle of where the 1993 expansion franchise should have been awarded.

    OR

    Rams become a “world team” & play 2 home games/year in London, 3 in St. Louis & 3 in LA; also LA gets concession from NFL for building new stadium to host every Superbowl for next 20 years. Preseason games in Mexico?

  21. As soon as St. Louis is able to bring unemployment below 30% the very next most important thing on their list is a retractable roof for their football team who average 3 wins a year.

  22. By the way… Edward Jones? What kind of financial services expert invests in real estate in St. Louis?

  23. there is nothing wrong with a dome…atleast the two football teams determine the winner of the game instead of a snow flake deciding who wins…

  24. Unfortunately in the NFL, one man’s trash is another’s treasure. LA wants a team and it’s going to come from somewhere. Jacksonville, Minnesota, St Louis and San Diego take note; I’d be out in full force because it’s obvious one of you will lose.

  25. I don’t know why, but this reminds of this scene from Austin Powers:

    Ivana Humpalot: My name is Ivana. Ivana Humpalot.
    Austin Powers: Excuse me?
    Ivana Humpalot: Ivana Humpalot.
    Austin: And I want a solid gold toilet but it’s just not in the cards now, is it?

  26. Yea and I want Jessica Alba in my bed with nothing on but a thong but I doubt that’s gonna happen either.

  27. I would love it if the Rams and their new coaching staff moved to Farmers Field. It wouldn’t make up for all the horrible decisions made here since the Rams and Raiders left, but it’d be nice to see a good young team play in a new stadium downtown.

  28. Rowdymon…..
    I thought I was the only that knew the Cleveland Browns were originally the Cleveland Rams. Good for and your knowledge and good for everybody else to know that as well. I can see the Rams going back to LA if given the opportunity. To them, that is home. The now Baltimore Zravens were the Cleveland Browns but the City of Cleveland fought legally to make Modell leave the Browns behind. For those that don’t know, the Browns were named in honour of Paul Brown, Coach and General manager who eventually wet to Cinncy and the Brown family pretty much holds the entire equity there. Another Modell screw up.

  29. Complete waste of money. If they start to win games, then they won’t need a fancy new roof to get people interested in the games.

  30. We knew this was a formality didn’t we? Rams move back to LA and Khan moves the Jags to St. Louis.

    I assume this was in the works before Khan bought the Jags.

    My only request is that Arizona gives the Cards name back to St. Louis in the name change.

  31. You are correct Rowdymon, I forgot about Cleveland. I just remember the days of Pat Haden and tales of Merlin Olsen, etc.

  32. Don’t bother coming to Minnesota, because if the Vikings leave we’re done with the NFL FOREVER.

  33. The Rams belong back in L.A. where they never should have left due to poor management from the owner. The Arizona cardinals should send the nickname back to St. Louis were it belongs and rename their team so something that fits their culture better.

  34. @briang123

    Thank goodness for not having the stallions or bomber names..they sound like roler derby teams.

  35. Adding a retractable roof now would be more than three times as expensive than doing it when it was built. Good luck with that. May as well just build a new stadium. In Industry, CA.

  36. “briang123 says:
    May 9, 2012 11:20 PM
    I went out to St. louis and to the dome for the Eagles-Rams championship game in January 2002. It was’ what, 6-7 years old at that time? All my buddy and kept saying was “wow, this place reminds me of new Comiskey Park and how it was a dump from pretty much the day it opened.” The NFL would have much better off if the 1994 expansion turned out like it was originally supposed to, the St. Louis Stallions and Baltimore Bombers. However, because Weaver and Richardson got the attention of Norman Braman (remember him?) and offered the visiting teams double the usual payout, we instead got the Jags and Panthers. Now, obviously Carolina has deserved their team. Jacksonville, no need to re-hash that here. The NFL would have been way better off if the 2002 expansion would have been Houston and Carolina. I think it’s gonna be déjà vu all over again for me. Just as I finally stopped calling the Raiders “Oakland” they moved back. Now that I hardly call the Rams “Los Angeles” anymore, they are gonna wind up back there.”

    The expansion teams in 1993 were awarded to Charlotte and Jacksonville because of the NFL’s sun belt strategy. Markets like Charlotte, Jacksonville and Nashville are growing in population every year. The NFL wanted to get into these expanding markets. And they both had much better stadiums to offer than Baltimore, Memphis or St Louis did.

  37. The Rams move back to L.A., the Cardinals move back to St. Louis, the Ravens move to Arizona, the Colts move back to Baltimore, the Browns collapse and die, because that’s what they do, the Rams then move from L.A. back to Cleveland because fans stop caring after week 4 of the 2016 season, the Cardinals move to Chicago and flip-flop to the AFC in exchange for the Bills moving from the AFC to the NFC’s St. Louis Bulls and then the NFL collapses immediately after all of this due to lack of fan interest from both not knowing who to root for that year and for losing interest when the league institutes flags instead allowing contact, particularly after the flags cause controversy in the AFC Championship Game regarding the “Flag Tuck Rule”. The End. (See? I can make outrageous scenarios too!)

  38. Also, forget not, the owner of Farmers Field wants to have a majority share in the NFL team that plays there. Kroenke is not selling.

  39. ALso, Kroenke was the lead bidder for the St. Louis expansion franchise in 1993 (for no other expansion franchise did he do this), plus, he agreed to buy the 30% of the Rams that Georgia was selling, on the condition that the Rams definitely move to St. Louis. Sorry, L.A.ers, but if you’re expecting the Rams to move back to L.A., the wrong guy owns them.

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