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Report: Rams want retractable roof

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The powers-that-be in St. Louis soon will be disclosing the full list of requests made by the Rams on May 1, in response to the initial proposal made by the Convention and Visitors Commission.

One major item, according to FOX 2 in St. Louis, is that the Rams want to raze the roof, and to replace it with a retractable lid.

The Rams included no cost estimate for what undoubtedly would be a costly feature.

If the Rams and the CVC can’t work out an agreement by June 15, the situation would go to non-binding arbitration.  Unless the two sides can work something out, the Rams would be free to leave after the 2014 season.

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71 Responses to “Report: Rams want retractable roof”
  1. tjacks7 says: May 9, 2012 10:22 PM

    Want in one hand, poop in the other.. What do you have more of?

  2. lolb23 says: May 9, 2012 10:22 PM

    They also want a LT and a real WR

  3. talkintrashallday says: May 9, 2012 10:25 PM

    how about a playoff win first??

  4. iplayforrexryan says: May 9, 2012 10:29 PM

    this seems like a strategy by the Convention and Visitors Commission.
    ‘ask for too much so they at least get something’

  5. warrenmoon says: May 9, 2012 10:29 PM

    I hate how domes and turf take the elements out of the game

  6. ar1888 says: May 9, 2012 10:29 PM

    As a Colts season ticket holder, I can tell them it would be total waste of money. Its only open for maybe 1-2 games a year, and when its open it creates a oven effect because the wind cant blow through.

  7. Max says: May 9, 2012 10:31 PM

    Quote “The Rams included no cost estimate for what undoubtedly would be a costly feature.”

    Its ridiculous and unprofessional to submit a request without actually doing feasibility studies and cost analysis on your own! Its bad business etiquette and kinda of implies the request is not given in good faith.

  8. ppc50 says: May 9, 2012 10:32 PM

    The Rams want to move back to LA, their original home, and want to make it look like it is the city’s fault. In this economy, they know that the hundred million, give or take, it will take to re-build the roof will not fly with either the local government or taxpayers in St. Louis. The good thing about stadiums is that a city can have an NFL team. The bad is that they host only 10 games a year and unless they plan on hosting the World Cup or the Rolling Stones every month, mostly in a city like St. Louis, the financials don’t work. St. Louis fans are very supportive and I don’t mean to be negative, but I think LA will be the home of the Rams in a year or two.

  9. tombradyallday says: May 9, 2012 10:33 PM

    get some retractable wins first

  10. drunkwino says: May 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    Why? I dare any team to make a compelling argument that retractable roof stadiums are such a must have. St. Louis, you have pretty decent weather year round. I say if the local weather is adverse enough any month (or so) during the season that fans would rather stay home, you can have a dome if you want. Otherwise play football outside like you’re supposed to.

    On another note: Welcome back LA Rams?

  11. dwntwnbadboy19 says: May 9, 2012 10:38 PM

    I am sure if they talked to AEG they could probably get one.

  12. pbm984 says: May 9, 2012 10:39 PM

    Why would they want a retractable roof? Just ditch the roof all together and convert to an open air stadium. Save millions

  13. rubbernilly says: May 9, 2012 10:40 PM

    “Here they come, your London Rams!”

  14. thankheavenfornumberseven says: May 9, 2012 10:41 PM

    How is that going to help them make more money? Sounds like they’re trying to leave.

  15. jimiinpa says: May 9, 2012 10:42 PM

    L.A. Rams? ( again)

  16. JakeDSnake says: May 9, 2012 10:44 PM

    When the music stops, say hello to the Minnesota Rams.

  17. mjkelly77 says: May 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    Report: Rams want retractable roof
    _________________

    And people in hell want ice water.

  18. 4512dawg4512 says: May 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    They need a new something cause that dome is a dump!

  19. nineroutsider says: May 9, 2012 10:48 PM

    St. Louis needs to spend that money on their decrepit sanitation and transportation infrastructure. Send the Rams back home…

    (Yes, I’m a 9er fan that cares about the Rams being back in LA – that was when the rivalry was good and a natural rival for us up in Northern California.)

  20. pacificnw7722 says: May 9, 2012 10:50 PM

    Cut the roof off….. permanently.

  21. andyb053 says: May 9, 2012 10:58 PM

    Report: I would like a million dollars.

  22. realnflmaster says: May 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    Why isn’t football outdoors in St. Louis to begin with? Rip the thing off and man up like the JETS.

  23. thegame2love says: May 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    Lit’s git her done!

  24. realitypolice says: May 9, 2012 11:04 PM

    This is a red flag.

    Retractable roofs are hugely expensive and of dubious value. Very few teams ever play with their roofs open, and the roof would obviously be closed for events other than football.

    It would be even more expensive to retrofit a retractable roof onto a stadium that was not designed to have one. Not only would it be difficult to make the changes to the frame to support the track systems and other hardware, but who knows if the structure itself is even designed to support the added weight.

    Not impossible, but absurdly expensive and absolutely zero ROI.

    I am sure the Rams have consultants working for them who know this, which makes me very suspicious of their reasons for asking for it.

  25. rowdymon says: May 9, 2012 11:08 PM

    ppc50 says:
    May 9, 2012 10:32 PM
    The Rams want to move back to LA, their original home, and want to make it look like it is the city’s fault.

    actually the original home of the Rams was in Cleveland.

  26. beavertonsteve says: May 9, 2012 11:12 PM

    The Rams wouldn’t mind an open stadium, but the city wants to be able to use it for events during the winter time.

    The team got lured to St Louis with promises of a top tier facility for decades to come. Why wouldn’t they expect to get what they were promised?

  27. briang123 says: May 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    I went out to St. louis and to the dome for the Eagles-Rams championship game in January 2002. It was’ what, 6-7 years old at that time? All my buddy and kept saying was “wow, this place reminds me of new Comiskey Park and how it was a dump from pretty much the day it opened.” The NFL would have much better off if the 1994 expansion turned out like it was originally supposed to, the St. Louis Stallions and Baltimore Bombers. However, because Weaver and Richardson got the attention of Norman Braman (remember him?) and offered the visiting teams double the usual payout, we instead got the Jags and Panthers. Now, obviously Carolina has deserved their team. Jacksonville, no need to re-hash that here. The NFL would have been way better off if the 2002 expansion would have been Houston and Carolina. I think it’s gonna be déjà vu all over again for me. Just as I finally stopped calling the Raiders “Oakland” they moved back. Now that I hardly call the Rams “Los Angeles” anymore, they are gonna wind up back there.

  28. rollteal says: May 9, 2012 11:26 PM

    ppc50 Los Angeles was actually the Rams 2nd home because they were the first team to move out west when they relocated from Cleveland. Rams have been around a min or two.

  29. lennydpocketqb says: May 9, 2012 11:29 PM

    L.A.

  30. rollteal says: May 9, 2012 11:33 PM

    That would stupid to spend that money on a Dome that opened in 1995 when here in another 5 or 10 years after the retractable roof is slapped on the Rams start claiming the Stadium as a whole is out of date and can’t financially compete with some of the newer stadiums in the League. I’m sorry they are just looking for a way out but I’m hoping im wrong.

  31. starfan79 says: May 9, 2012 11:34 PM

    with all the picks in the next few drafts they have a chance to build a dominating team…. one that could be good for the next 15 years.. new stadium might be worth it. Im Cowboys fan so I don’t really give a crap, just my thoughts

  32. dawglb says: May 9, 2012 11:35 PM

    Loved every post here! Entertaining! Just play football, people! The Cubs play at Wrigley, the BoSox play at Fenway. Those places, though beautifully historic, are dumps for the players and fans alike. This dome in St. Louis, has to be better than those (previously mentioned) stadiums, as far as comfort/room for fans to sit and walk around.

  33. drunkwino says: May 9, 2012 11:36 PM

    RealityPolice:

    I am sure the Rams have consultants working for them who know this, which makes me very suspicious of their reasons for asking for it.
    _________________>_<________________

    In this case, I image the cynics are probably right. They want it because it's totally unreasonable and it might give them an excuse to move. It's pretty convenient timing now that it looks more and more like the Vikings are going to stay put.

  34. chiefsfan88 says: May 9, 2012 11:43 PM

    I say let them go back to L.A. I know a lot of rams “fans” they only care about them if they’re winning

  35. cmarsh64 says: May 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    From what I have read it will be 3 years till the new stadium in LA is built and since the Vikings seem to be close to a deal and the Rams with an expiring lease after the 2014 season it would be perfect timing for the Rams to move again. Jeff Fisher seems like a Hollywood type guy and i’m sure the players would love the weather in LA over St.Louis. Or you could have the Chargers making the move.

  36. skinsrock says: May 10, 2012 12:00 AM

    As others have said… how can you not feel this is a play to get back to that #2 market with a brand new stadium… What a stupid clause to have in a contract… All buildings age & everyone wants bigger & better… Man, I bet ownership was lickin’ their chops when they saw Jerry World being built.

  37. waitingguilty says: May 10, 2012 12:05 AM

    Why not? If they give Kroenke the roof he’ll find something else to ask for. Something that can’t be delivered.

    He is moving the team as soon as he can fond a way to ‘justify’ it.

  38. snap0179 says: May 10, 2012 12:15 AM

    Listed immediately behind ‘winning season’

  39. veence69 says: May 10, 2012 12:22 AM

    LA RAMS!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

  40. binkystevens says: May 10, 2012 12:23 AM

    How about no roof???

  41. veence69 says: May 10, 2012 12:24 AM

    Think it’s coincidence that the Rams announce this the morning after the Minnesota Senate approved the Vikings Stadium?

    Dun-Dun-Dunnnn.. LA Rams!

  42. veence69 says: May 10, 2012 12:25 AM

    They’re already in the NFC West, LA will be a perfect fit.

  43. shifferbrains says: May 10, 2012 12:26 AM

    FULL CIRCLE

    PAST:
    1. St. Louis jilted in 1993 expansion to Jacksonville/Carolina
    2. St. Louis gives away the farm to lure Rams from LA in “Ben Dover” lease (nice job John Shaw)
    3. Georgia Frontiere passes
    4. Chip & Rosa need to sell the team
    5. Khan makes substanial offer
    6. Kronke exercises his right of first refusal
    7. Many meetings b/w Kronke & Khan….no animosity
    8. Khan buys Jaguars

    PRESENT:
    1. Kronke exercises his right to attempt to extort the St. Louis CVC in first tier clause ( of said B. Dover Lease)

    FUTURE:
    1. CVC/taxpayers will not succumb to Kronke’s untenable demands
    2. Rams to LA (2015)
    3. Jags continue to struggle in Jacksonville
    4. Jags move to St. Louis (& new stadium) in what becomes a full circle of where the 1993 expansion franchise should have been awarded.

    OR

    Rams become a “world team” & play 2 home games/year in London, 3 in St. Louis & 3 in LA; also LA gets concession from NFL for building new stadium to host every Superbowl for next 20 years. Preseason games in Mexico?

  44. grandpoopah says: May 10, 2012 12:29 AM

    As soon as St. Louis is able to bring unemployment below 30% the very next most important thing on their list is a retractable roof for their football team who average 3 wins a year.

  45. grandpoopah says: May 10, 2012 12:30 AM

    By the way… Edward Jones? What kind of financial services expert invests in real estate in St. Louis?

  46. rabbdogg says: May 10, 2012 12:54 AM

    there is nothing wrong with a dome…atleast the two football teams determine the winner of the game instead of a snow flake deciding who wins…

  47. spytdi says: May 10, 2012 1:01 AM

    Unfortunately in the NFL, one man’s trash is another’s treasure. LA wants a team and it’s going to come from somewhere. Jacksonville, Minnesota, St Louis and San Diego take note; I’d be out in full force because it’s obvious one of you will lose.

  48. silverhornet says: May 10, 2012 1:11 AM

    I don’t know why, but this reminds of this scene from Austin Powers:

    Ivana Humpalot: My name is Ivana. Ivana Humpalot.
    Austin Powers: Excuse me?
    Ivana Humpalot: Ivana Humpalot.
    Austin: And I want a solid gold toilet but it’s just not in the cards now, is it?

  49. pickelback says: May 10, 2012 1:15 AM

    I want a pony…

  50. raylangivens2 says: May 10, 2012 1:24 AM

    Yea and I want Jessica Alba in my bed with nothing on but a thong but I doubt that’s gonna happen either.

  51. henryholland666 says: May 10, 2012 1:25 AM

    I would love it if the Rams and their new coaching staff moved to Farmers Field. It wouldn’t make up for all the horrible decisions made here since the Rams and Raiders left, but it’d be nice to see a good young team play in a new stadium downtown.

  52. kodakinvegas says: May 10, 2012 1:41 AM

    Rowdymon…..
    I thought I was the only that knew the Cleveland Browns were originally the Cleveland Rams. Good for and your knowledge and good for everybody else to know that as well. I can see the Rams going back to LA if given the opportunity. To them, that is home. The now Baltimore Zravens were the Cleveland Browns but the City of Cleveland fought legally to make Modell leave the Browns behind. For those that don’t know, the Browns were named in honour of Paul Brown, Coach and General manager who eventually wet to Cinncy and the Brown family pretty much holds the entire equity there. Another Modell screw up.

  53. jpmelon says: May 10, 2012 2:26 AM

    Complete waste of money. If they start to win games, then they won’t need a fancy new roof to get people interested in the games.

  54. buflo66 says: May 10, 2012 2:38 AM

    We knew this was a formality didn’t we? Rams move back to LA and Khan moves the Jags to St. Louis.

    I assume this was in the works before Khan bought the Jags.

    My only request is that Arizona gives the Cards name back to St. Louis in the name change.

  55. ppc50 says: May 10, 2012 3:10 AM

    You are correct Rowdymon, I forgot about Cleveland. I just remember the days of Pat Haden and tales of Merlin Olsen, etc.

  56. mungman69 says: May 10, 2012 3:57 AM

    Goodby roof plans, hello LA.

  57. thepenaltyflag says: May 10, 2012 4:00 AM

    LA Rams here they come! Although it’s going to be more than just a retractable roof that does them in.

  58. northstars1991 says: May 10, 2012 4:25 AM

    Don’t bother coming to Minnesota, because if the Vikings leave we’re done with the NFL FOREVER.

  59. northstars1991 says: May 10, 2012 4:27 AM

    The Rams belong back in L.A. where they never should have left due to poor management from the owner. The Arizona cardinals should send the nickname back to St. Louis were it belongs and rename their team so something that fits their culture better.

  60. wldkat says: May 10, 2012 5:47 AM

    Mr Goodell, “Tear down this Roof” !!!

  61. staffordsyear says: May 10, 2012 6:31 AM

    @briang123

    Thank goodness for not having the stallions or bomber names..they sound like roler derby teams.

  62. phillyphan72 says: May 10, 2012 7:28 AM

    The Rams belong In LA anyway

  63. jimiinpa says: May 10, 2012 7:59 AM

    rams want retractable roof , fans want playoff wins. which will happen first

  64. squared80 says: May 10, 2012 8:01 AM

    Adding a retractable roof now would be more than three times as expensive than doing it when it was built. Good luck with that. May as well just build a new stadium. In Industry, CA.

  65. martinezjones1012 says: May 10, 2012 9:35 AM

    St louis is keeping the California gets nothin yall had yall chance and yall blew it

  66. martinezjones1012 says: May 10, 2012 9:36 AM

    St louis is keeping the Rams Cal had they chance and they blew

  67. shackdelrio says: May 10, 2012 9:48 AM

    “briang123 says:
    May 9, 2012 11:20 PM
    I went out to St. louis and to the dome for the Eagles-Rams championship game in January 2002. It was’ what, 6-7 years old at that time? All my buddy and kept saying was “wow, this place reminds me of new Comiskey Park and how it was a dump from pretty much the day it opened.” The NFL would have much better off if the 1994 expansion turned out like it was originally supposed to, the St. Louis Stallions and Baltimore Bombers. However, because Weaver and Richardson got the attention of Norman Braman (remember him?) and offered the visiting teams double the usual payout, we instead got the Jags and Panthers. Now, obviously Carolina has deserved their team. Jacksonville, no need to re-hash that here. The NFL would have been way better off if the 2002 expansion would have been Houston and Carolina. I think it’s gonna be déjà vu all over again for me. Just as I finally stopped calling the Raiders “Oakland” they moved back. Now that I hardly call the Rams “Los Angeles” anymore, they are gonna wind up back there.”

    The expansion teams in 1993 were awarded to Charlotte and Jacksonville because of the NFL’s sun belt strategy. Markets like Charlotte, Jacksonville and Nashville are growing in population every year. The NFL wanted to get into these expanding markets. And they both had much better stadiums to offer than Baltimore, Memphis or St Louis did.

  68. nickp91 says: May 10, 2012 10:33 AM

    looks like the Rams could be moving to LA after seeing their proposal.

  69. ramdomhaus says: May 10, 2012 12:49 PM

    The Rams move back to L.A., the Cardinals move back to St. Louis, the Ravens move to Arizona, the Colts move back to Baltimore, the Browns collapse and die, because that’s what they do, the Rams then move from L.A. back to Cleveland because fans stop caring after week 4 of the 2016 season, the Cardinals move to Chicago and flip-flop to the AFC in exchange for the Bills moving from the AFC to the NFC’s St. Louis Bulls and then the NFL collapses immediately after all of this due to lack of fan interest from both not knowing who to root for that year and for losing interest when the league institutes flags instead allowing contact, particularly after the flags cause controversy in the AFC Championship Game regarding the “Flag Tuck Rule”. The End. (See? I can make outrageous scenarios too!)

  70. ramdomhaus says: May 10, 2012 1:13 PM

    Also, forget not, the owner of Farmers Field wants to have a majority share in the NFL team that plays there. Kroenke is not selling.

  71. ramdomhaus says: May 10, 2012 1:20 PM

    ALso, Kroenke was the lead bidder for the St. Louis expansion franchise in 1993 (for no other expansion franchise did he do this), plus, he agreed to buy the 30% of the Rams that Georgia was selling, on the condition that the Rams definitely move to St. Louis. Sorry, L.A.ers, but if you’re expecting the Rams to move back to L.A., the wrong guy owns them.

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