Comments on: Raiders unlikely to move to L.A., unless Mark Davis sells http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sun, 19 May 2013 00:58:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: radrntn http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1783082 Mon, 14 May 2012 15:31:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1783082 can’t wait to see a team move to LA, and Mark Davis prevails in the courtroom. haters will keep hating, but everybody knows what the commisioner said under oath” The raiders paid for the rights to LA”

]]> By: mullman7675 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782231 Sun, 13 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782231 @pantherpro- With the RAIDERS brand so recognizable the unsavory portion of the fanbase gets exposed to a higher degree. Every team has an element in their fanbase that they could do without. For instance, I’m sure Richardson would prefer it if you had a different handle so your ignorant rants don’t tarnish the brand he is trying to create.
Either way, the RAIDERS brand is SOLID, don’t kid yourself.

]]> By: jomochiefsfan84 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782209 Sun, 13 May 2012 19:54:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782209 Who cares what city they play in they will suck either way

]]> By: 49ersfan4life88 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782205 Sun, 13 May 2012 19:52:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782205 The Raiders never belonged in L.A. in the first place, I don’t get why so many Raider fans feel they belong in L.A. more than Oakland, the Raiders have been in Oakland for almost 40 years, they were only in L.A. for 13 years, more than half the Raiders history is in Oakland.
The Raiders identity was forged in Oakland and those three Super Bowl trophies came from Oakland. Yes, I said three. The team that won the last trophy in 1983 was a team forged in Oakland. Most of the players on the 1983 team were drafted in Oakland or came aboard as free agents, or acquired in trades before the move to L.A. Because the Raiders moved to L.A. in 1982, in barely their second year in L.A. they won a Super Bowl, so it was pretty much an Oakland-Roster, except for Marcus Allen, and Vann McElroy.

]]> By: culturalelitist http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782174 Sun, 13 May 2012 19:11:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782174 I live in Los Angeles, and I’d love to have a local team, but as a diehard NFL fan, I don’t want to see a repeat of the “franchise free-agency” and ensuing domino effect that happened from the late ‘80s through the late ‘90s. A team moved, then that vacancy became an attractive alternative for another team with stadium issues, etc.

For this reason, the Raiders are the best fit for Los Angeles, not to mention their already-present fan base from their previous SoCal stint. It’s unlikely that Oakland would attract another franchise to town. Jacksonville would be a similar case, making the Jaguars a less disruptive option, league-wise, for Los Angeles.

St. Louis would instantly become the destination of choice for teams threatening to move, just as it was when the Cardinals left in 1988. Same with San Diego.

Expansion would be awkward, given the neat balance of eight four-team divisions, but it’s probably inevitable eventually (London?). Until then, the league should look back at the numerous team relocations of the past two decades, and encourage, rather than block, a Raiders move.

]]> By: pantherpro http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782147 Sun, 13 May 2012 18:52:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782147 Hey Raider Rob/Mullman,

First of all the Raider brand in nothing to be proud of whether it is here or abroad. Just because people are attracted to trash doesnt make it right. Take a look at the Raider nation on the road. It is the ultimate loser in every town that is attracted to Raider nation. As far as the Raider ever dominating the bay……. again just the trash and a great team. Still think you were on FM radio so that tells you how big your audience was. You are and have always been the Niners bitch with your crowds of 30,000 low lifes! Be proud Raider fan neither LA or Oaktown wants you! Nice Haircut Dumb and Dumber Davis!!

]]> By: raiders4life http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782136 Sun, 13 May 2012 18:38:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782136 If and when the Raiders move back home to L.A., I’ll be there to greet my team with open arms.

]]> By: mullman7675 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782080 Sun, 13 May 2012 17:53:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782080 And furthermore- it just shows that it was/is 31 owners and then Al Davis. Al created an empire while the othere owners either inherited or bought their own. The owners/league has always hated Al and Al has never backed down, instead choosing to hoist the middle finger and carry on.
From Al getting stabbed in the back, to Rozelle blocking the trade that would have brought Elway to the RAIDERS, to the “tuck rule” getting “phoned in” on a snowy day in new england- the RAIDERS have never had it easy.
Despite it all-The RAIDERS- 3 Superbowls and a Global Brand that will NEVER die.
Choke on it haters.

]]> By: mullman7675 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782053 Sun, 13 May 2012 17:30:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782053 @slickster35- Al Davis is responsible for the league that you enjoy today. If you don’t realize this, then you are much more inept than I thought previous.
Al Davis was going to crush the NFL before Hunt and the other cowards cut a deal behind his back.
The NFL would have been absorbed and would have become the AFL. After winning the SB teams would have been presented with the AL DAVIS TROPHY. Al was the best thing to EVER happen to this league.
Coach, Head Coach, GM, Owner, Commissioner- there will NEVER be another Al Davis.
The game is better because of Al. He CREATED and marketedmthe RAIDERS. The RAIDERS are GLOBAL and are recognized as one of the Greatest Franchises in the History of Sporting Franchises.
The chiefs are not, the chargers are not, the broncos are not.

]]> By: bnwpnw http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782039 Sun, 13 May 2012 17:17:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782039 He should move it to SF – great city, great fan base, and their team is about to pack the moving vans for some place called “Santa Clara.”

]]> By: raiderapologist http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782020 Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782020 slickster35 says: May 13, 2012 6:25 AM

The Davis family are an embarrassment to the league, and would NEVER be approved for ownership of ANY professional sports franchise in this day and age.
Lamar Hunts gravest mistake in life was allowing someone like Al Davis to have a vested interest in his beloved league, the AFL.

The AFL wasn’t Hunt’s beloved league, it was his consolation league. And Davis was a benefit to Hunt, not a mistake. Haters are cool, but ignorant haters are just lame.

]]> By: raiderlyfe510 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1782018 Sun, 13 May 2012 16:59:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1782018 Why is this even a story?

Chargers would be the best team to move to L.A. Either the Chargers or an expansion.

The 49ers probably have more fans in L.A. than the Raiders do these days.

The best thing for L.A. is ONE expansion team so the whole city could get behind it, or the Chargers.

]]> By: sognad1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781996 Sun, 13 May 2012 16:40:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781996 Let’s face it, LA is not going to get an existing NFL franchise. The NFL does not want any current team to move. They will continue to “use” LA as a means to get stadium deals and better leases for current teams. Once every current NFL city is fleeced and a new TV contract is up for renewal, look for LA to get an expansion team. Greedy owners will then divy up billions of dollars for 2 new expansion teams instead of a few million each for a relocation fee. The developers of Farmers Field have stated they want to buy a team to make the project viable. What egotistical owner is going to sell his team or partner up and share his profit and power with them? Not going to happen. Right now the NFL doesn’t need LA to physically have a team that they may or may not support. They need LA to continue to be the boogey man.

]]> By: buffedwhiteman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781987 Sun, 13 May 2012 16:35:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781987 Mark Davis “bowl-shaped hair-cut” hilarious,lol

]]> By: nomoreseasontix http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781961 Sun, 13 May 2012 15:57:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781961 Los Angeles has already had, and lost, three different teams (Chargers, Rams and Raiders).
What makes anyone think a move there by any team would be successful THIS time?

The NFL wants a team there to increase the revenue from TV contracts.

Most people who live there couldn’t care less.

THAT”S why the idea will fail.

]]> By: joetoronto http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781931 Sun, 13 May 2012 15:36:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781931 chazsunderland says:
May 13, 2012 9:24 AM
The Jaguars are not leaving Jacksonville. Kahn is investing in a new locker room and practice facility. It will be either the Ram or Chargers in the City of Angles.
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That’s like saying someone won’t sell their house because they just replaced the windows.

]]> By: villa41 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781919 Sun, 13 May 2012 15:23:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781919 The Raiders need to stay in Oakland. That’s where the team’s identity was forged. That identity is a tough, talented, hard nosed football team that fears no one. Sorry, that doesn’t fit in LA (i.e., front runner city and city of glam). The Raiders wone three Super Bowls in Oakland. Yes, I know the Raiders technically had moved to LA for the 3rd Super Bowl win, but that was a team of players that came from Oakland and the identity was created in Oakland. The Raiders lost something as the years went on in LA. That’s one of the reasons AD brought them back, not just for a renovated Colisium.

Reggie Mac and DA are building the monster again. Keep the team where it natually belongs and, let’s get another 3 Super Bowl wins in the next decade of dominance.

]]> By: nuclearwarfare http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781869 Sun, 13 May 2012 14:53:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781869 It’s not as if it matters to have the other owners vote for approval. It didn’t stop Al Davis at all. He moved the team, sued the NFL, won the case, and then won the Super Bowl.

]]> By: chazsunderland http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781711 Sun, 13 May 2012 13:24:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781711 The Jaguars are not leaving Jacksonville. Kahn is investing in a new locker room and practice facility. It will be either the Ram or Chargers in the City of Angles.

]]> By: philvil41 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781669 Sun, 13 May 2012 12:42:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781669 The Raiders and or Davis don’t need the leagues approval to move to L.A. If they choose to move they will do it with or without the N.F.L.’s blessing.

]]> By: hodag54501 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781647 Sun, 13 May 2012 12:12:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781647 One option for the NFL is to put a team in LA with a new franchise. Now it all works, scheduling-wise, in clean way with 32 teams, but the LA franchise could be assigned to a west coast division. An interesting twist would be to allow it to be in the AFC West one year, the NFC West the next. It would give the franchise a bit of a “wild card” persona, which fits in Los Angeles.

]]> By: raider316 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781622 Sun, 13 May 2012 11:41:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781622 Didn’t Mark’s dad move to LA WITHOUT the other owners approval? What are the chances that Mark feels the same way as his dad?

]]> By: tatum064 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781603 Sun, 13 May 2012 10:44:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781603 quicktaker says:
May 12, 2012 11:36 PM
I am surprised Mark Davis doesn’t have to sell the team because of estate taxes.
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This is the one reality that no one is addressing. Carol would have to sign off on a sale, but the estate tax will be massive without any revenue stream to leverage a deficit from another low budget year. The Santa Clara mayor really screwed them because they would make millions sharing the stadium revenue between the Niners (NFC) and Raiders (AFC) if they shared the Santa Clara facility as the Commissioner desired.

(lack of sell outs, lack of the luxury boxes not being sold, and the absence of a state of the art facility)

]]> By: slickster35 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781599 Sun, 13 May 2012 10:25:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781599 The Davis family are an embarrassment to the league, and would NEVER be approved for ownership of ANY professional sports franchise in this day and age.

Hopefully the league office will force the sale of the team, and move it out of that bankrupt craphole that hardly resembles a major league city.

NFL teams shouldn’t be forced to play in that abomination of a stadium any longer. It’s an unsafe environment for players and opposing fans.

Lamar Hunts gravest mistake in life was allowing someone like Al Davis to have a vested interest in his beloved league, the AFL.

]]> By: joetoronto http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781595 Sun, 13 May 2012 09:21:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781595 The NFL’s dream of the Raiders turning into just another team when Al Davis died is now a nightmare.

Just live it baby. :)

]]> By: northstars1991 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781593 Sun, 13 May 2012 09:09:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781593 The Raiders belong in Oakland, stop messing with the fans of Oakland one and for all!

]]> By: jgrange http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781591 Sun, 13 May 2012 08:55:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781591 stick it*

]]> By: jgrange http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781590 Sun, 13 May 2012 08:55:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781590 So, the league owners would block the Raiders from moving to LA which would generate a ton more revenue compared to what the team generates now in Oakalnd just to stick to a dead man? Seriously? These owners realize that the money generated in LA by the Raiders goes into a collective pot as per the CBA, right? The Raiders already have a fanbase installed in said city and would make the most sense. LA is not a Charger town and none of the other teams have a brand name as big as the Raiders. This just shows the bitterness and immaturity of the owners.

]]> By: rosesacl http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781587 Sun, 13 May 2012 07:54:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781587 The reason the chargers wont be moved is simple…. The chargers already make Above average revenue playing in qualcomm…. No way the nfl elites will endorse a franchise leaving that much money behind…. They will find some bottom feeder franchise to move to LA .. It wont be the chargers

]]> By: a1skee http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/12/raiders-unlikely-to-move-to-l-a-unless-mark-davis-sells/#comment-1781580 Sun, 13 May 2012 07:30:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=732557#comment-1781580 The Raiders dont need L.A. Theyre already a global identity and all they have to do is win to get back in the limelight. In reality, its LA that needs the Raiders but this isnt the NBA. An NFL team will thrive anywhere as long as theyre somewhat competitive. NBA fans are as fake as LA fans themselves…

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