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Brees, Saints not likely to have long-term deal before OTAs launch

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When discussing and/or reporting on the status of talks between the Saints and quarterback Drew Brees since last August, plenty of folks have responded by saying, essentially, “So what?  It’s eventually going to get done.”

That sentiment likely remains accurate, but it still isn’t done.  And the team’s offseason Organized Team Activities begin in only nine days.

As Mike Triplett of the New Orleans Times-Picayune explains it, the chances of that happening before the launch of OTAs are “practically zero.”  Which means that the Saints would not only be missing a head coach for their 10 opportunities to prepare for training camp, but also their starting quarterback.

And there’s no sign that a breakthrough is coming.  “Nobody has picked up the phone for more than a month to resuscitate talks, and there’s no indication either side will reach out in the near future,” Triplett writes.

The key date, then, will be July 16, the deadline for signing a franchise player to a long-term deal.  After that date, Brees will be relegated to a one-year, $16.371 million contract.  After that date, he’d gain no additional leverage by holding out, and he’d lose more than $1 million for each regular-season game missed.

Maybe that’s why the Saints aren’t picking up the phone.  Maybe they realize that, eventually, Brees will have to choose between taking the best deal made before July 16 or gaining nothing by holding out of training camp — and in turn hurting the team’s chances (and his own) of being ready to go as of Week One.

Still, the real damage begins on May 22, when the Saints begin to lay the foundation for training camp.  Even if Brees shows up for training camp, the Saints will have had to get through the offseason without one thing that their primary competitors in the NFC will have had:  their starting quarterback.

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49 Responses to “Brees, Saints not likely to have long-term deal before OTAs launch”
  1. cakemixa says: May 13, 2012 1:11 PM

    Pretty ridiculous that seemingly the easiest contract to negotiate isn’t done yet, especially for a team in need of good PR.

  2. rollore says: May 13, 2012 1:12 PM

    I really wished that the commish took away their franchise tag as a punishment. That would’ve done the deal right there….Either with this team or another and would’ve changed the game entirely.

  3. skoobyfl says: May 13, 2012 1:15 PM

    I feel for him & his problem of picking up only $16 Million this year, cry us a river.

  4. elcolon says: May 13, 2012 1:17 PM

    So Brees can make $371,000 this year for never reporting?

    Crazy.

  5. paulnoga says: May 13, 2012 1:19 PM

    Brees was franchised by the Chargers and got hurt at the end of the season. There were only two teams looking at him at all, Miami and NO. he has promised he will not play under a franchise tag again. Integrity and sticking to his word are extremely important to him. He will not play under a tag.
    Unfortunately, the bounty case has made things tremendously more difficult. The Saints picked up several Defensive players to replace the players they perceived were going to be suspended. LBs Lofton, Hawthorne, and Chamberlain, DTs Bunkley, and Aydole were all added. That put them on the CAP with the Franchise money for Brees.
    Now that Smith and Vilma have fought the suspensions, their salaries count. There is no money for brees, at least the amount he wants.

  6. dapros says: May 13, 2012 1:19 PM

    Benson is being pretty stupid, forcing his franchise player into a corner. How would you feel if your boss treated you like that? Brees should continue to hold out.

  7. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: May 13, 2012 1:21 PM

    Maybe that’s why the Saints aren’t picking up the phone. Maybe they realize that, eventually, Brees will have to choose between taking the best deal made before July 16 or gaining nothing by holding out of training camp — and in turn hurting the team’s chances (and his own) of being ready to go as of Week One.

    That’s written as if Brees is the only one that has incentive to get a deal done.

    Can you imagine what it would be like in New Orleans if someone else were under center for the opener?

  8. klee0384 says: May 13, 2012 1:23 PM

    Drew Brees is the reason The Saints aren’t a laughing stock anymore. He wins a Super Bowl, sets every passing record, and is a pillar of the community. If he doesn’t get a fat contract, New Orleans might as well break out the paper bags to put over their shamed heads.

  9. samapoc says: May 13, 2012 1:26 PM

    All that off season work last year didn’t help get the Saints to the Superbowl. Does this really make a big difference?

  10. stairwayto7 says: May 13, 2012 1:28 PM

    Brees bolts and the Saints go back to the Aints and no fans!

  11. ken0west says: May 13, 2012 1:28 PM

    Breeze should publicly say he wont show tell week 10 (or whatever the rule is) if they don’t make him a top 3 QB offer. The Saints are conducting themselves like a low-rent franchise. If they try to leverage Breezes own good character against him, he should flip the script and go all hold out diva on them.

    Fans would flock to Breezes side and considering the circumstances in NO, they cant offered an internal battle. Breeze has all the leverage he just needs the stones.

  12. sathguy says: May 13, 2012 1:30 PM

    Yeah, I mean offseason practices are no big deal right Drew? Oh wait, didn’t you orchestrate and pay for those last year??!

  13. crabboil says: May 13, 2012 1:32 PM

    Drew hasn’t signed yet because he and Coach Payton are still drawing up new plays…

  14. pierrepoint1 says: May 13, 2012 1:34 PM

    How about Brees sets a drop dead date, say June 1, and if there is no long term deal, he sits out the season?

    The Saints are counting on Brees signing the franchise tag, and this way he makes it clear to the team, no long term deal, no play.

    Brees deserves top pay for his position, and the Saints are simply playing a game of chicken which they can’t afford to lose.

    The Saints need Brees more than Brees needs the Saints.

  15. norvturnersneck says: May 13, 2012 1:36 PM

    It’s not like he will holdout for training camp. It would be important for a franchise in clean up mode though.

  16. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: May 13, 2012 1:40 PM

    skoobyfl says: I feel for him & his problem of picking up only $16 Million this year, cry us a river.

    Why take a one year, $16M deal when you’re worth more?

    If the Saints thought he wasn’t worth more they wouldn’t have franchised him.

    Pretty simple when you walk through the logic.

  17. porterhouse12 says: May 13, 2012 1:50 PM

    He deserves big money, just not the biggest contract ever in the NFL. Brady has three Super Bowl wins in 5 appearances. How can Brees want several more million per year than #12?

    This will be his last contract. He is 35 going on 36. He should get what he can, but jumping over Brady’s deal and Manning’s deal is a stretch and they don’t have the cap room. Good luck Drew. Please give us an explanation!

  18. patriots123456 says: May 13, 2012 1:54 PM

    Drew Brees wants an explanation as to why he hasn’t signed yet.

  19. porterhouse12 says: May 13, 2012 1:54 PM

    By the way, the new mark is Manning’s contract. Yes, 19 million/year average, but very little guaranteed. Something has to give….

    Either go for Manning’s 19 million a year with a team option after year one

    -or-

    Get 60 million guaranteed and match Brady.

    Drew wants avg of 23 million per year for first three years which is his cost using franchise tags 3 years running fir an aging QB with nothing beyond 1 year at a time guaranteed. What would you do?

  20. kameleono says: May 13, 2012 2:01 PM

    It’s situations like this where you realize that the NFL’s the only game in town. Brees can’t even threaten to get employment somewhere else. It’s the Saints or nothing. Man I wish there was some sort of other real league he could even threaten to go work for. That’d make the Saints think twice about lowballing him.

  21. mrlaloosh says: May 13, 2012 2:02 PM

    Exactly crab boil, as long as Brees isn’t employed in the NFL he & payton can twlk as much as they want. Amother finger to Godl employed

  22. footballfan84 says: May 13, 2012 2:06 PM

    Pay the man!

  23. SeenThisB4 says: May 13, 2012 2:08 PM

    1. Saints/Brees will get the deal done.
    2. Saints have all the CAP space they need to get the deal done.
    3. Saints will play with an improved defensive squad even with Brees’ deal.
    4. Saints offense will pick up where they left off and be even sharper because of the deal.
    5. Saints will win the NFC South will be the deal.
    6. Saints will get to the Super Bowl in New Orleans. Done deal.

  24. kgun80 says: May 13, 2012 2:13 PM

    Really??!! How can you not get this done? Arguably the best in the league. Just pay the guy or are they just giving up on this year?

  25. drewsg says: May 13, 2012 2:44 PM

    ken0west says: May 13, 2012 1:28 PM

    Breeze should publicly say he wont show tell week 10 (or whatever the rule is) if they don’t make him a top 3 QB offer. The Saints are conducting themselves like a low-rent franchise. If they try to leverage Breezes own good character against him, he should flip the script and go all hold out diva on them.

    Fans would flock to Breezes side and considering the circumstances in NO, they cant offered an internal battle. Breeze has all the leverage he just needs the stones.

    —————————————————-

    A top QB 3 offer? Brees got an offer from the Saints that would’ve made him the highest paid player in the LEAGUE. But he wanted more money on top of that

  26. threedeep1998 says: May 13, 2012 2:51 PM

    Maybe he needs an explanation on how his contract works.

  27. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: May 13, 2012 3:00 PM

    drewsg says: Brees got an offer from the Saints that would’ve made him the highest paid player in the LEAGUE. But he wanted more money on top of that

    This is news to me. Can you provide a link / source? Maybe details on the Saints offer?

  28. chrisjohnston10 says: May 13, 2012 3:27 PM

    Brees doesn’t deserve Manning/Brady money. Those two QBs are in their own league. I would argue that Brees doesn’t deserve Big Ben money either. The Steelers compete every year and Big Ben has led them to 3 Superbowls winning two. It will be interesting to see what Brees comes away with because I’m sure this is going to set the stage for Rodgers. Rodgers will want more money than Brees. Rodgers is the better QB as well and deserves more.

  29. dat504 says: May 13, 2012 3:37 PM

    Some of you have no idea what Brees was offered since this is your only sports news source. Use google and do sme research. Drew has been offered richest contract in NFL history, but his agent wants 23mil a year the first 3. We love and need Drew, but can’t kill he rest of he team to please his agent.

  30. panther17 says: May 13, 2012 4:02 PM

    paulnoga says: May 13, 2012 1:19 PM

    Brees was franchised by the Chargers and got hurt at the end of the season. There were only two teams looking at him at all, Miami and NO. he has promised he will not play under a franchise tag again. Integrity and sticking to his word are extremely important to him. He will not play under a tag.

    ____________________________________

    LoL.

    The same guy that said keeping this team in tact was more important than himself getting paid? Where did his integrity and sticking to his word go when he said that but decided to try and rape the Saints* pocket book causing the loss of key parts of last years offense? Oh the integrity and sticking to his word means nothing when we are talking about money.

    Breezing2apayday

  31. vtopa says: May 13, 2012 4:03 PM

    And people wonder why players are “so greedy”? Its because of tactics like this from smarmy executives like Micky Loomis. Brees revitalizes the franchise and brings them a Superbowl (let me repeat A SUPERBOWL) and this is how they treat him (in his prime) just 2 years later? We are probably talking a difference fox few million over the course of the whole contract (and yes, I know that is not chump change for most of us but ITS CHUMP CHANGE FOR Tom Benson..a BILLIONAIRE).

    YOur franchise has been getting HAMMERED in the media for 3 straight months. The Superbowl is in your HOME TOWN. YOur head coach is BANNED. Get a clue and SIGN BREES ALREADY!

  32. panther17 says: May 13, 2012 4:06 PM

    dat504 says: May 13, 2012 3:37 PM

    Some of you have no idea what Brees was offered since this is your only sports news source. Use google and do sme research. Drew has been offered richest contract in NFL history, but his agent wants 23mil a year the first 3. We love and need Drew, but can’t kill he rest of he team to please his agent.

    ____________________________________

    Agent works for the Player. The Agent gets what the Player wants. Don’t make the agent out to be a bad man. If the Player says, “I’m fine with 18 mil a year”, the deal would of been done. Here I’ll fix your post.

    “Some of you have no idea what Brees was offered since this is your only sports news source. Use google and do sme research. Drew has been offered richest contract in NFL history, but Drew wants 23mil a year the first 3. We love and need Drew, but can’t kill he rest of he team to please Drew.”

  33. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: May 13, 2012 4:09 PM

    dat504 says: Some of you have no idea what Brees was offered since this is your only sports news source.

    This is far from my only news source, and you’re the second person to make an incredibly abstract claim about what Brees was offered.

    Even the reporter from The Times-Picayune is reporting that Brees is not being offered Manning / Brady money. So at best the claim that he’s been offered “the richest contract in NFL history” is disputed. At worst, it’s a lie.

  34. robf2010 says: May 13, 2012 4:16 PM

    “This will be his last contract. He is 35 going on 36.”

    He is 33 going on 34. You’re right that this will likely be his last contract but that was thought about Peyton Manning last year. Brees is looking for a contract that is structured similarly to the one Peyton signed last year in Indy and to the one he just signed in Denver but he deserves more money that Peyton. He is younger and has outperformed Peyton over the last several years.

  35. caps247 says: May 13, 2012 4:43 PM

    IMO, just take the money and play. Even though you’re worth a lot, would you want the best for your team or the best for you?

    He’s a professional athlete who already won a Bowl. He has probably tens to hundreds of millions of dollars, would it hurt to receive a little less for a year or two?

    Just sign Brees already, because I’m really looking forward for a challenge for the Redskins and RGIII’s game 1 debut.

  36. matt2calvin says: May 13, 2012 4:55 PM

    I believe Brees has already decided to sit out all of pre-season without a contract in place. His “value” will increase with every pre-season massacre that occurs…

    It is a QB driven league – without a starting caliber QB a team doesn’t stand a chance. This will become apparent to the stooges upstairs soon enough. You don’t get many players like Brees in a franchise – it is the height of stupidity to waste even a game without him behind center.

    I believe Brees will sit the start of regular season if needed to make his point. He can come back as late as possible and play the final few games of the season – after signing his franchise tag and pulling a hammy for several weeks. On a $/game basis after missing half the remaining games – he will be paid what he is truly worth per game.

    The team doesn’t believe Brees will tarnish his reputation by playing hard-ball. Brees must prove them wrong or forever be the doormat.

    Does Drew Brees have the stones?

  37. eagleswin says: May 13, 2012 4:55 PM

    Per Schefter’s sources, Brees and the Saints are trying to bridge a gap of $5 million per season over the first three seasons of Brees’ prospective new deal. Brees wants a contract that will pay him $23 million a year over the first three years of his new deal, which would mirror the first three years of Peyton Manning’s most recent contract with the Indianapolis Colts.

    All told, the Saints are offering Brees a five-year deal worth $18 million a season. A contract like that would be on par with Tom Brady’s contract with the New England Patriots and Manning’s per-season salary over the life of his contract.

    ——————————

    He has been offered more than $16 mill/yr. He has been offered a contract on par with brady’s contract. He is being greedy.

  38. jason1980 says: May 13, 2012 5:59 PM

    Wow…..so many hater fans concerned about the Saints QB situations. I wonder why?? Could they be SCARED??? Who Dat Nation’s not worried about this at all, we do appreciate y’alls concern, though. Lol.

  39. Spencer says: May 13, 2012 6:00 PM

    Just pay him.

  40. brenenostler says: May 13, 2012 6:13 PM

    Brees has been offered $18 mil/year, not $16. Brees wants $23. That’s more than Eli, Peyton, or Brady are making.

    The Saints will likely give in to Brees’ demand, but that means other important guys won’t be able to stay. Good luck winning the Super Bowl then.

  41. butthatmakestoomuchsense says: May 13, 2012 6:20 PM

    eagleswin says: He is being greedy.

    Over the past few years Brees has played for a little more than half of what the top NFL QBs make. He never complained, tried to renegotiate, or held out.

    At the end of the day he gets labeled as “greedy” anyway. Remember that the next time a player holds out.

  42. usmutts says: May 13, 2012 7:00 PM

    Ok, here we go again: Sean Payton lives in Dallas. His friend is Jerry Jones for whom he’s previously coached. Brees and Payton are very close. If they are talking these days, and they surely are, the subject is how both of them can end up with the Cowboys for the 2013 season. Payton is sitting out the 2012 season. It seems unthinkable that Brees would do the same, but he certainly feels disrespected by Loomis and Benson, as he should, and he’s not a person whose loyalty should be taken for granted.

    Don’t be shocked if Brees and Payton take Dallas to the Super Bowl after the 2013 season.

  43. mikelitoris1 says: May 13, 2012 8:57 PM

    Drew Brees’ life will take a turn for the better the minute dat 215 area code shows up on his cell phone.

  44. cowboycjn says: May 14, 2012 9:37 AM

    With all the up-set the Saints have been through with the scandals, you think this would be the last thing on their mind, holding out to sign a QB that they so desperately need.
    I understand Brees wanting to capatalize on his possible last long term contract before retirement, but I also understand the organization trying to deal with him with the money they have without selling the farm. Someweres in-between, the two have to meet and get a deal signed.
    Prolonging this surely is NOT helping the Saints in any form or fashion.

  45. cowboycjn says: May 14, 2012 9:45 AM

    mikelitoris1 says:
    May 13, 2012 8:57 PM
    Drew Brees’ life will take a turn for the better the minute dat 215 area code shows up on his cell phone.
    = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
    Area code 215 – Is that in the United States?? Must be some third world country or a location where they either don’t have much of a team or they are so darn embarassed of the team they have, they are drooling and wishing they could have a team like the Saints.
    Go on drooling fool, one day your location might be able to support a team like the Saints.

  46. 11jlacy says: May 14, 2012 10:45 AM

    Saints brass need to just handle their business ASAP!!!!!!!!

  47. crustyone72 says: May 14, 2012 3:27 PM

    What do you get when you put a used car salesman and accountant to negotiate the easiest deal in the world with a player that for the first time since 1967 has made your franchise relevant? No Drew Brees

    Hold out Brees. You deserve the money. The owner and GM are negligent for not getting this deal done 2-3 years ago at a discount.

    You lose Brees and you lose nearly every fan you’ve got. How many Chase Daniels jersey’s do you plan on selling. Not to bash on Chase, but just saying.

  48. silentcount says: May 14, 2012 10:03 PM

    It’s all just extra drama and suspense to make the story more epic when the Saints overcome all odds and win the Super bowl in their own house.

  49. Broncofanatic7 says: May 15, 2012 2:10 PM

    “Well Drew, we know you just broke a 20 year old record, and there are maybe like 3 other guys in the world that can do what you do for us, but we just aren’t sure if we can give you a long term contract.”
    Doesn’t seem like something that the Saints should be saying…. especially in the predicament they are in with bountygate.
    Pay. The. Man.
    You can’t afford not to.
    UNLESS… (and this is probably the real case) Drew is asking for more than Brady and or Manning….. in that case… hold your ground Saints.
    Drew should get around 60 mil guaranteed… case closed.

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