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Patriots now offering Welker less than they offered last year

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Patriots receiver Wes Welker has signed his franchise tender and is in the fold for the 2012 season, but that doesn’t mean he’s satisfied with the way negotiations on a long-term contract have gone.

In fact, Welker says the Patriots are now offering him less money than the two-year, $16 million, fully guaranteed deal they offered during the 2011 season.

“There have been talks, but nothing that’s brightened anything at all,” Welker said, via the Boston Herald. “It’s actually gotten worse.”

Still, Welker doesn’t sound like he has any second thoughts about signing the franchise tender, which guaranteed his base salary of $9.5 million this year and also guarantees that next year he’ll either get a 20 percent pay raise, get to test unrestricted free agency, or get a long-term contract done with the Patriots.

“The ball’s in their court. I just want to play,” he said. “At the end of the day, if it’s one year, $9.5 million, it’s one year, $9.5 million. I’m good with that.”

Welker said he didn’t want to miss the start of organized team activities and that he thinks a good offseason followed by a good season will give the Patriots little choice but to show him the money.

“That’s kind of my mindset,” Welker said. “To go out and show them I deserve it.”

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  1. hiltonandastoria says: May 17, 2012 1:33 PM

    He’s a year older, of course he is being offered less

  2. sdisme says: May 17, 2012 1:36 PM

    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

  3. sj39 says: May 17, 2012 1:37 PM

    I think Tommy Bundchen’s wife doesn’t want Welker on the team.

  4. cannonballdookie says: May 17, 2012 1:38 PM

    Of course they would, they don’t appreciate anyone in the organization other than Brady and ole Billy.

  5. mathomp3 says: May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Torn ACL week 3

  6. boltfaninfalconcountry says: May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Plus the Patriots are telling Welker he is a system player and now they are more comfortable with the two tight end sets.

  7. tennesseeoilers says: May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

  8. cowboyhater says: May 17, 2012 1:41 PM

    Perception is everything Welker. Unfortunately, you are perceived in a certain way due your makeup, and not your actual talent. You’re not suppose to be this good as a NFL WR, so they will not pay you that way. Welcome to reality.

  9. linvillegorge says: May 17, 2012 1:41 PM

    Welker is doing the right thing. Play for the $9.5M this year, then next year he’ll either make $11.4M under the franchise tag or he can leverage other offers against the Patriots.

  10. rc33 says: May 17, 2012 1:42 PM

    Two years, $16 million fully guaranteed was a pretty good offer.

  11. j0esixpack says: May 17, 2012 1:42 PM

    Welker just signed the franchise tender to play this year – why would they offer MORE or even the same amount guaranteed now for a player already under contract who just gave up his only leverage?

    The whole point of the franchise tag is that it pays players a guaranteed premium one year contract in return for the player taking the risk of injury.

    No one should expect any NFL team would reverse course at this stage and assume the financial liability and risk of injury to a player while increasing his guaranteed money.

    If Welker remains healthy and productive he’ll come out far ahead with his $9.5 million this year and either an $11 million franchise deal next year – or better yet a multi-year deal in free agency that should bring him another $20 million guaranteed on top of his $9.5 million this year.

    But the fact of the matter is that no team in the NFL is going to offer MORE money to a player who is OLDER and has willingly given up leverage.

    If the Patriots are the only organization that understands this, I feel sorry for the fans of other teams.

  12. cowboyhater says: May 17, 2012 1:43 PM

    …due to your makeup that is. Sorry, I get ahead of myself when typing.

  13. dolphinatic says: May 17, 2012 1:43 PM

    Come back home Wes…. Just kidding, you’re tainted and we don’t like HOF receivers in Miami.

  14. deepthreat says: May 17, 2012 1:43 PM

    They should offer him $9,600,000 guaranteed… for three years… total…

  15. dexterismyhero says: May 17, 2012 1:47 PM

    Is Brees still flapping his gums about the Franchise offer?

  16. pleasantsurpriselefty says: May 17, 2012 1:47 PM

    Year older, signed a slew of receivers, a replacement already on the roster (Edelman), Gronk and Hernandez, only one ball to go around, be glad they didn’t pull the tag and move on.

    Besides with the $9.5 mil even after taxes and living expenses, investing the money wisely and you are still ahead of 99% of us civilians. Smart to sign when he did.

  17. 7thlombardiontheway says: May 17, 2012 1:48 PM

    He can come to Pitt and be a solid backup. lol

  18. flaccotoboldin says: May 17, 2012 1:49 PM

    More of the Patriots Way. I think it was on PFT a day or two ago that fans of EVERY team besides the Patriots saw signing that Tag as a move that only hurt his leverage.

    So he signs its, and VOILA, leverage hurt. Lower offer.

    More of the Patriot Way. Sick.

  19. dukemarc says: May 17, 2012 1:49 PM

    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    ————————-

    If Brady doesn’t throw it two feet over his head maybe he would have.

  20. Soulman45 says: May 17, 2012 1:50 PM

    He is gone the Pats play on the cheap side trade bait.

  21. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 1:51 PM

    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    __
    Even Jerry Rice wouldn’t have caught that wounded duck.

  22. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 1:53 PM

    Wes Welker = sucker

  23. Patskrieg dot com says: May 17, 2012 1:55 PM

    Anyone who has seen Welker do agility drills in person knows his talent is for real. Pay the man.

  24. krashie21 says: May 17, 2012 1:57 PM

    That drop in the SB was waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than he ever could’ve imagined……

  25. counterfeit384 says: May 17, 2012 1:58 PM

    i just sneezed in my hands

  26. cliffordc05 says: May 17, 2012 1:59 PM

    Welker knows he won’t have any real leverage until he becomes a free agent but he is in the driver’s seat on this one. Another team will offer him a three year deal if the Patriots offer two and the Patriots will be forced to pay market rate. If he accepts the franchise tender next year he will have made 20 million over two years rather than the 16.5 the Patriots were offering.

  27. dublindemonszfl says: May 17, 2012 1:59 PM

    It’s the business Wesley, 9.5 is pretty good deal and if you get tagged next year that’ll be 20.9. A beeter deal. Otherwise you go free agent, but don’t go to the Redskins, it’s a FA death trap. Plus I heard you hate the packers so I guess that’s not gonna happen.

  28. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 2:07 PM

    Go get your first SB ring (at the end of the 2013 season) somewhere else, Wes.

  29. catquick says: May 17, 2012 2:08 PM

    Sorry Wes, but you’re just another brick in the wall. Coach Frankenstein will just build a better beast with someone else and you’re a goner. When they decide you’ve outlived your usefullness to them, its over.

  30. gimmeabruschi says: May 17, 2012 2:10 PM

    bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 1:51 PM

    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    __
    Even Jerry Rice wouldn’t have caught that wounded duck.

    ________________________________

    Yeah, those low velocity balls that hit you on both hands are a tough grab. You would have to be at least a high school athlete or something to catch one of those.

  31. phillyrick22 says: May 17, 2012 2:12 PM

    I wouldn’t overpay Welker. He comes up big in the regular season, but not in big games. That drop cost them a SB, and brought us the pain of loud mouth NY fans. DONT FOLD!

  32. bonato55 says: May 17, 2012 2:14 PM

    Come on people, age isn’t ALWAYS a factor most of the time “yes” but not always… The guy has not slowed down at all, pay the man this is ridiculous!!!!

  33. CKL says: May 17, 2012 2:14 PM

    I adore WW, he’s everything a franchise could want as a player, but it’s time for him to stop talking about his contract negotiations to the press.

    The Mankins stuff was really bitter and it shocked me a little that he returned long term, but he was on the right side of 30. Wilfork’s got a little contentious also, but again, he was on the right side of 30.

    I think this is WW’s last year in NE simply due to the +30 factor. I hate the thought, but it sure looks that way.

  34. EJ says: May 17, 2012 2:17 PM

    The Patriots front office is trying to get Welker to sign for less and he is not going to sign. So instead of just giving him 3yrs and something like 24 million with 12 million of it guaranteed, they will be shelling out 9.5 + 11.4= $20.9 over two years, because If they don’t make him a decent offer between now and next year they will have to franchise him again. Personally, I’d rather have the guy under contract for the next three with the option to move on from him without losing millions, than paying almost the same amount over two with no third year option. Somebody will overpay for him, the Patriots should have locked him up because Brady has massive chemistry with Welker, not to mention he is a good locker room influence. I guess that is why they are doing the deal and not me… you know, cause they are so great at their job and all.

  35. siaaa says: May 17, 2012 2:17 PM

    Tom Brady will make anyone a great short yardage reciever. Welker is a great player but not worth anything more than what he’s being offered. Truly a system player. Pats have added a couple of good recievers this year. I think if they end up doing well, welker will have to go else where next year with no contract. He should sign what ever theyre offering right now.

  36. bullcharger says: May 17, 2012 2:19 PM

    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

  37. bullcharger says: May 17, 2012 2:25 PM

    sdisme says:May 17, 2012 1:36 PM

    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    ——————-

    I totally agree. Welker hasn’t really come up big in big games over his time as a Patriot. 2007 he needed to be better in the Super Bowl. 2010 he screwed the Patriots up with his feet jokes. Not great.

  38. pastabelly says: May 17, 2012 2:27 PM

    Wrong side of 30.

  39. sod61 says: May 17, 2012 2:30 PM

    Dream on Welker if you think Bill is gonna show you the money if you have a good season. You were lucky to get the franchise tender this year. You should know the only one that will get paid is Brady, so just keep on making him look good fool, Giselle appreciates it.

  40. descendency says: May 17, 2012 2:31 PM

    dukemarc says:
    May 17, 2012 1:49 PM
    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    ————————-

    If Brady doesn’t throw it two feet over his head maybe he would have.

    ——————

    If he had realized the safety had dropped into the box (the same one that picked the pass off on the same play they ran the last time they played the Giants) and that he should have ran his route 2 feet deeper, he would have caught it.

  41. 6ball says: May 17, 2012 2:33 PM

    .

    @flacco @ bozo

    Welker had business choice to sign his tender or not. He can sign a long term deal or not. It’s his decision. We live in America.

    Should I be consulting you before I make a business decision? If so, please list your qualifications and accomplishments in life.

    Somebody else’s paycheck should be none of your concern?

    .

  42. fm31970 says: May 17, 2012 2:35 PM

    Who is going to give him 9.5M+ as a free agent next season? Even the Titans if the early 2000s weren’t that desperate…wait, they signed Carl Pickens and Yancey Thigpen…maybe they were. *gulp*

    Either way, he’s a system guy. Take what they offer, WW, and be satisfied with it.

  43. Shawn says: May 17, 2012 2:53 PM

    I can’t see the Patriots giving Welker a long term deal and I’m a Pats fan, because they just don’t pay anyone thats name isn’t Tom Brady. They have too many other weapons to pay a slot receiver 10mil per year long term, even a receiver as talented as Welker. Check out my blog please!

  44. CKL says: May 17, 2012 3:06 PM

    @ Shawn..they paid Wilfork, they paid Seymour, they paid Mankins. Heck they even had Vinatieri as the highest paid PK twice when they franchised him. BB has a degree in economics, he’s a straight “value for the dollar” guy, and he factors in replaceability as well I’m sure.

  45. Shawn says: May 17, 2012 3:12 PM

    @CKL they traded Seymour when his contract was out and Mankins had to hold out for a half year to finally get paid. They don’t pay anyone they get in the 30s. Franchising someone isn’t the same as giving them a long term deal

  46. conormacleod says: May 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    Love the “pay the man” comments. He’s going to make $9.5 mil this year. Just a tad bit more than I’ll make in my 30 year career. The man is being paid.

  47. RexCanCoach says: May 17, 2012 3:15 PM

    Welker is a NY Jet in 2013, its already been determined so.

  48. realdealsteel says: May 17, 2012 3:22 PM

    He had a big money offer last year, but he turned it down.

    Now they have a new # 1 wide receiver in Lloyd and now the Pats have more leverage against him.

    Welker did this to himself. He is not Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald. Welker is a product of how good Brady is and he should have taken the money when he had a chance.

  49. cincinnasti says: May 17, 2012 3:23 PM

    If I were him.. I’d hope to be franchise tagged every year..

  50. thetruth1313 says: May 17, 2012 3:34 PM

    bozosforall says:
    May 17, 2012 1:51 PM

    Even Jerry Rice wouldn’t have caught that wounded duck
    ——————————————-

    Hate to break it to you, but you are wrong…again. See Superbowl 36. Where one Tom Brady thru a similiar ball to one David Patten in the corner of the endzone for a TD.

    Wasnt the greatest pass but it should have been caught.

  51. truthhurtstoo says: May 17, 2012 3:42 PM

    That’s what happens when you drop passes in the SB. Welker should thank his lucky stars, period.

  52. kissbillsrings says: May 17, 2012 3:46 PM

    I say Make a trade right now straight up with the Rams for Stephen Jackson….sign Jackson to a 3 year deal & install either Edelman or Anthony Gonzales at slot & with Vereen/Ridley/Woodhead there to help take the workload off Jackson he’d stay healthy & strong the next 3 years & the Pats win 2 0f the next 3 superbowls…maybe all 3!!!!

  53. southbeachtalent says: May 17, 2012 3:51 PM

    Good offer for a great slot receiver. Loved him down here.

    Ahh who needs him, we have….Naanee?

    WOW

  54. bray72 says: May 17, 2012 3:53 PM

    David Smith,

    This is not rocket science! Please.

    Pats want to pay $16M for two seasons. He signs for next season at $9.5M. I guess the following year would be $6.5M (less the guaranteed 20% increase) instead of the $8M per year they really want to pay. Got it?

    You can’t have it both ways Wes.

  55. pastabelly says: May 17, 2012 4:24 PM

    realdealsteel says:
    May 17, 2012 3:22 PM
    He had a big money offer last year, but he turned it down.

    Now they have a new # 1 wide receiver in Lloyd and now the Pats have more leverage against him.

    Welker did this to himself. He is not Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald. Welker is a product of how good Brady is and he should have taken the money when he had a chance.
    ================================

    Welker’s stats are part of the function of having Brady as his quarterback, part of being a slot receiver in the Pats offense (see Brown, Troy), and part being an outstanding WR. But I agree with you that his stats will drop in 2012 and the Patriots know that and THAT will drop his 2013 market value. With Lloyd, Gronk, and Hernandez, the wealth will be spread more evenly. It’s not as if Welker was going to get a long term deal in any case.

  56. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:26 PM

    gimmeabruschi says:
    May 17, 2012 2:10 PM
    bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 1:51 PM

    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    __
    Even Jerry Rice wouldn’t have caught that wounded duck.

    ________________________________

    Yeah, those low velocity balls that hit you on both hands are a tough grab. You would have to be at least a high school athlete or something to catch one of those.

    __
    Welker’s body was going forward, while the pass was thrown behind him. Not many pros, much less college or high school guys are going to catch that one. But keep on kneeling at the feet of your hero Tammy Brady…too bad he doesn’t even know or care who you are.

  57. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:27 PM

    kissbillsrings says:
    May 17, 2012 3:46 PM
    I say Make a trade right now straight up with the Rams for Stephen Jackson….sign Jackson to a 3 year deal & install either Edelman or Anthony Gonzales at slot & with Vereen/Ridley/Woodhead there to help take the workload off Jackson he’d stay healthy & strong the next 3 years & the Pats win 2 0f the next 3 superbowls…maybe all 3!!!!

    __
    The Rams don’t want him.

  58. krashie21 says: May 17, 2012 4:28 PM

    If he wasn’t playing with Tom Brady, this guy is Danny Amendola…….

    He’s a legend from Week 1 to 17 playing against teams like the Bills and ‘Phins………

    But when the game was on the line?????

    That’s why he’s not getting his money…….

  59. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:28 PM

    thetruth1313 says:
    May 17, 2012 3:34 PM
    bozosforall says:
    May 17, 2012 1:51 PM

    Even Jerry Rice wouldn’t have caught that wounded duck
    ——————————————-

    Hate to break it to you, but you are wrong…again. See Superbowl 36. Where one Tom Brady thru a similiar ball to one David Patten in the corner of the endzone for a TD.

    Wasnt the greatest pass but it should have been caught.

    __
    Patton’s body wasn’t going in the exact opposite direction. But keep on slurping on Brady’s groin…he sees you doing it but has no idea who you are.

  60. denverscott says: May 17, 2012 4:28 PM

    conormacleod

    Wow, refreshing. A actual voice of sanity in a sea of mouth breathing morons. Thank you.

  61. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:31 PM

    6ball says:
    May 17, 2012 2:33 PM
    .

    @flacco @ bozo

    Welker had business choice to sign his tender or not. He can sign a long term deal or not. It’s his decision. We live in America.

    Should I be consulting you before I make a business decision? If so, please list your qualifications and accomplishments in life.

    Somebody else’s paycheck should be none of your concern?

    .

    __
    None of ANYONE’S business here…yet TONS of self-righteous New England idiot fans have been bashing Welker every step of the way in these negotiations. Clean up your own backyard before you try and call me out.

  62. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:33 PM

    bullcharger says:
    May 17, 2012 2:19 PM
    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

    __
    Brady didn’t make Gaffney look great…his stats once he left INCREASED. So much for your theory.

  63. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 4:35 PM

    descendency says:
    May 17, 2012 2:31 PM
    dukemarc says:
    May 17, 2012 1:49 PM
    sdisme says:
    May 17, 2012 1:36 PM
    He catches the ball in the Super Bowl he probably gets the bigger contract.

    ————————-

    If Brady doesn’t throw it two feet over his head maybe he would have.

    ——————

    If he had realized the safety had dropped into the box (the same one that picked the pass off on the same play they ran the last time they played the Giants) and that he should have ran his route 2 feet deeper, he would have caught it.
    ___
    IF Tammy Brady had thrown a better ball, you whiners wouldn’t still be crying. The rest of us thank Mr. Bundchen for his mistake.

  64. flash1283 says: May 17, 2012 5:26 PM

    @ Blowsforall

    Get a life, loser!!
    What’s that, 20 more today?

  65. toolkien says: May 17, 2012 5:57 PM

    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

    ——————————–

    Ted Thompson of the Packers DOES operate the same way and why the Packers are at the top of the league over the last three years.

    Anyone with half a brain can see the football operations management of the contracts is a capital budget process – a three dimensional matrix where conditions are fed in and the money pretty much kachings based on the parameters. Sign a two year deal for X fits the matrix one way. Only want a one year deal, the matrix spits out a different answer. Cubits of estimated production per dollar over agreed upon duration Y. Let emotions and gut feel lead your decision making and your team sinks to the bottom.

    Thompson and Belichick are cyborgs and their teams are at the top of the NFL.

  66. the17thpresident says: May 17, 2012 6:04 PM

    Why does he need more money? He should be paid enough from all the millions someone paid him to drop that ball in the SB! Lol

  67. the17thpresident says: May 17, 2012 6:07 PM

    bullcharger says:
    May 17, 2012 2:19 PM
    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

    __
    Brady didn’t make Gaffney look great…his stats once he left INCREASED. So much for your theory.

     —–

    Well he did have to share a football with a record breaking randy moss, Wes, donte, and Watson. Who were the other receivers he had to share with when he left?

  68. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 8:45 PM

    the17thpresident says:
    May 17, 2012 6:07 PM
    bullcharger says:
    May 17, 2012 2:19 PM
    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

    __
    Brady didn’t make Gaffney look great…his stats once he left INCREASED. So much for your theory.

    —–

    Well he did have to share a football with a record breaking randy moss, Wes, donte, and Watson. Who were the other receivers he had to share with when he left?

    ___
    Not in 2006, when Moss was with the Raiders. Gaffney had 11 receptions. Nor was Stallworth or Welker on that team in 2006. And Watson had a whopping 46 receptions that year.

    So much for your lame theory, so typical of idiot Pats fans who don’t know how to do any simple research.

  69. bozosforall says: May 17, 2012 8:57 PM

    the17thpresident says:
    May 17, 2012 6:07 PM
    bullcharger says:
    May 17, 2012 2:19 PM
    tennesseeoilers says:May 17, 2012 1:40 PM

    Here’s to the Patriots’ front office. For making fans of other NFL teams feel better about our own.

    ————————

    If other front offices operated the same way their teams would win more games. Brady makes Welker great just like he did with Branch. Brady even made Reche Caldwell look good one year. They can’t pay Welker more than he worth. Some other team will sign him to a 3 year deal next year and without an ultra accurate QB they won’t be able to get him the ball.

    __
    Brady didn’t make Gaffney look great…his stats once he left INCREASED. So much for your theory.

    —–

    Well he did have to share a football with a record breaking randy moss, Wes, donte, and Watson. Who were the other receivers he had to share with when he left?

    __
    Also, Stallworth’s two best seasons were in New Orleans, long before he was a Patriot.

    In addition, Ben Watson had his best season the year AFTER he left New England.

  70. billharford31 says: May 17, 2012 10:45 PM

    Agree, the Pats front office played this one great. Btw, for whomever says that they feel good about other front offices, hate to break it to you but fan from 30 other teams would much rather have the Pats front office and personnel judging by the results in the last decade.

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