Comments on: Pioli says Chiefs have three good QBs, didn’t need to draft one

By: sullijo1

sullijo1 — Wed, 23 May 2012 18:40:29 +0000

There is NO reasonable reason the Chiefs didn’t move up to select RG3. NONE. That would have been a franchise changer for 10 years….. but, instead, stuck in the mud.

By: rex2storm

rex2storm — Sun, 20 May 2012 23:52:43 +0000

Just a few observations from a life long Chiefs fan:
1. Matt Cassel isn’t the worst starting QB in the league however lets be clear, what he did in 2010 was not winning. The object of the game is to win championships. He did not come remotely close to playing like a superbowl QB in 2010.
2. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that Matt Flynn appears to be just a newer version of Matt Cassel?
3. It would seem obvious that if the Chiefs had a QB capable of leading this team to the Super Bowl, then the Chiefs would have a real chance to win the whole thing this year. That is why so many people are frustrated by Pioli not acknowledging what seems obvious to so many of us.

By: bigwigbob

bigwigbob — Fri, 18 May 2012 17:57:01 +0000

slickster35 says:
May 17, 2012 10:17 PM
I see bigwigbob is an idiot on multiple boards.

Nice.

If I were an “idiot” you would disregard what I say. Just because I disagree with you does not make me an idiot.

The fact that you would rather take personal swings at people as opposed to forming an argument may just prove you as one who doth protest too much.

By: bgarrett816

bgarrett816 — Fri, 18 May 2012 14:56:35 +0000

Seriously you think Grbac was the future in KC. Does no one remember the tantrum he threw in the locker room after a game. You know the one where he said that he out played his team and if they were half as good they would of won. Yup sounds like who i want to lead a TEAM.

By: slickster35

slickster35 — Fri, 18 May 2012 02:17:02 +0000

I see bigwigbob is an idiot on multiple boards.

Nice.

Also, LOL @ the faider fool with the GM that doesn’t speak english. You wish ANYONE credible would take a job with your joke franchise.

By: northsidesteel

northsidesteel — Thu, 17 May 2012 23:54:09 +0000

Quinn is a great guy, but can’t throw the ball more than 20 yards past the line of scrimage. Who is kidding who?

By: chiroubles

chiroubles — Thu, 17 May 2012 23:17:52 +0000

“Pioli doesn’t seem to like the relentless questions from some in Kansas City about whether the Chiefs can win with Cassel.”

No, Pioli doesn’t like complete and utter tools like Kietzman trying to tell him how to do his job….

By: gerard33

gerard33 — Thu, 17 May 2012 22:39:38 +0000

Yelix,

You’re always on here fighting the good fight my man. It’s amazing really how much ignorance there is about our team! It’s ok, you gotta love being under the radar…

By: gerard33

gerard33 — Thu, 17 May 2012 22:34:22 +0000

Pioli has played it perfectly. Next year there are 4-6 1st round quality QBs. The rest of the roster is set. All he has to do (if Cassell fails) is make QB the #1 priority for 2013, and whoever he brings in will be set up to succeed.

KC sports media is full of fools from what I’ve seen.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Thu, 17 May 2012 21:38:38 +0000

God bless Scott Pioli and AJ Smith.

Go Raiders!

By: jbholcom

jbholcom — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:57:36 +0000

If the 49ers can get within two muffed punt returns of the Super Bowl with Alex Smith at QB, then the Chiefs should be alright.

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The Chiefs defense does not have Patrick Willis, or Justin Smith, or Aldon Smith, or Navarro Bowman or…

You get the point.
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I don’t get your point. The 49ers don’t have Tamba Hali, or Eric Berry, or Brandon Flowers, or Derrick Johnson, or …

By: yelix

yelix — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:47:16 +0000

bigdawg24

The Chiefs didn’t play Stanzi last year because Todd Haley wanted to get fired, and because by the time Romeo was named interim HC, Kyle Orton’s finger had healed up.

In regards to Haley wanting to get fired, just look at his last game, the 37-10 loss to the Jets. On 3rd downs, he took Bowe, Baldwin, and Breaston off the field. When the team was down 28-3 at halftime, he trotted Palko back out there, even though they had nothing to lose by inserting Stanzi.

By: jjackwagon

jjackwagon — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:38:11 +0000

Cassel is gone after this year unless he puts up Pro Bowl numbers AND the Chiefs go deep in the play-offs. I don’t see any justifcation for keeping him if both those things don’t happen. He will be headed into the fourth year of his contract and will probably have a big roster bonus due that will be much larger than an average QB is worth. We’ve all seen this scenario before.

By: swede700

swede700 — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:30:39 +0000

Living in the KC area as I do, I don’t understand what Pioli is looking at, because I see 3 backup QBs who should remain backup QBs.

By: rcali

rcali — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:22:26 +0000

If you have 3 good quarterbacks, you have 3 good quarterbacks.

By: raiderapologist

raiderapologist — Thu, 17 May 2012 20:03:22 +0000

Most Chiefs fans on PFT seem to believe they can win in spite of Cassel, not because of him. Pioli shouldn’t get defensive about Cassel. It’s a legitimate concern.

By: kingcarlbanks

kingcarlbanks — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:48:41 +0000

Fact is the Chiefs have 2 mediocre Qbs and an unproven one. The Chefs are notorious for signing other teams castoff Qbs and trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s&^t. Matt Cassel is a backup fronting like a starter. Too bad the brain trust at Arrowdead will never attempt to develop a Qb. Whether Peterson or Pioli, mediocre is the norm in KC.

By: dexterismyhero

dexterismyhero — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:44:57 +0000

Let’s just go to Westport and drink in the bars. Great place!!!

By: yelix

yelix — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:37:25 +0000

@bigwigbob

You aren’t entirely wrong, but your Grbac comment is. The guy was just a mediocre QB who threw for 4,000 yards in 2000 because the team was always behind.

The guy who replaced him, Trent Green, was a better leader, decision maker, passer, and overall athlete than Grbac.

By: hikohadon

hikohadon — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:36:23 +0000

“I have no basis in reality for this assumption, and it’s just a gut feeling but I think Brady Quinn will end up being the starter in KC and actually flourish. After all, he was drafted under the Crennel regime in Cleveland, and actually played well in limited action in his last year there.”
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As a Browns fan that actually watched those games, this is incorrect.

There’s a reason that the Browns ran the ball 75% of the time at the end of the 2009 season (Quinn’s last in Cleveland). It was more dangerous to have Quinn throw than to punt.

Now, if you mean Romeo’s last year in Cleveland (2008), yes, Quinn was better that year. But to say he played well is still a major stretch. His arm was mediocre at best and he was horribly inaccurate.

Don’t get your hopes up that he’s magically transformed into a starting-caliber NFL QB.

By: yelix

yelix — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:28:13 +0000

@sfloyal

I can tell you’re a 49ers fan, and I don’t mean to pick a fight with you because I like your team, but the Chiefs defense isn’t that far from being as good as the 49ers.

Dorsey and Jackson don’t put up huge numbers, but they actually both rate very well against the run. Poe has all the physical tools to be a dominant NT.

Hali is one of the best pass rushing OLB’s in football, and Houston on the other side had 5.5 sacks in his last 5 games after a rough start. Derrick Johnson is as good as ILB’s get, and Jovan Belcher next to him is alright.

Flowers is a legit #1 corner, and Routt has always been a solid #2. Eric Berry and Kendrick Lewis is potentially one of the best safety tandems in football.

Add in rotational guys like Menzie, Arenas, Gordon, and Bailey, and you’ve got yourself a pretty dang good defense.

By: Gordon

Gordon — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:24:04 +0000

I’ll have whatever he’s smoking.

By: krimou80

krimou80 — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:20:05 +0000

when you beleive you have 3 starting NFL caliber QBS, you are either dreaming or on crack…or both. I am not going to say that the chiefs are in trouble cause at least they have a good enough defense, but i am not saying that they are going to the playoffs either!!!!!!

By: shazzyd

shazzyd — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:09:13 +0000

Here is what everyone always forgets. In Cassel’s 4 seasons with the Chiefs, he has had 4 different offensive coordinators. So he has had 5 different offensive coordinators in his last 5 seasons. Brian Daboll will be his 6th offensive coordinator.

If you look at those 5 years, you’ll see that Cassell did will in the two years he had a real coordinator. Once with Charlie Weis (made the pro bowl) and once with Josh McDaniels in New England (stepping in for Brady). All the other years were basically Todd Hailey acting as head coach and OC at the same time.

So yeah… Give the guy a chance. This year he will have have the best line and the best group of receivers he has ever had.

My prediction is that we’ll at least be saying he is a top 20 QB by the end of the year.

By: chitownjeff

chitownjeff — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:08:47 +0000

pioli’s main error was going on that show with a hack like kietzmann. the chiefs have either the best or second best roster in the west..so blow that up for Luck? Btw you weren’t getting indy’s pick anydamn way. Pioli’s been far from perfect..but that idiot on 810 sat blindly for yrs swallowing whatever king carl told him…

By: irishdodger

irishdodger — Thu, 17 May 2012 18:57:59 +0000

Being an NFL QB can be a crap shoot. Cassell inherits the perfect storm @ NE & had an MVP year. Goes to KC & the situation is different. I’m more of a college fan but how long before you write a QB off? What dictates whether they played enough to get a true assessment of their value. As an Irish fan, I thought Quinn would have fared much better than he has. Granted I’m bias & admit he’ll likely never be a long term solution for anyone, but does he have a volume of work to truly assess that? When I paid attention to his situation in Cleveland, I came away thinking he was on a crappy team w/ an ill-equipped HC that couldn’t decide on a starting QB as he shuffled between Quinn & Anderson. Just think if BQ entered a scenario similar to Colt McCoy or Andy Dalton? At least they’re getting a chance to prove themselves w/ consistent starts.

By: jazzymegalodon

jazzymegalodon — Thu, 17 May 2012 18:54:24 +0000

I think what he meant was…”we missed on the QB we wanted, an still needed draft picks to fill holes so we weren’t gonna trade our draft for RG3, if Cassel Can’t get it doe this year than we will draft a QB”

I’m a Chiefs fan an been longing for a 1st Rd QB but do I want Kirk Cousins?… OR Weeden? NOpe

By: bigdawg24

bigdawg24 — Thu, 17 May 2012 18:35:58 +0000

If Ricky Stanzi is a good QB – Why didn’t they play him instead of Tyler Palko last year when Cassel went down?

“What the Chiefs really needs is 53 Lance Long’s….”

By: aaronp2098

aaronp2098 — Thu, 17 May 2012 18:34:50 +0000

God knows we need a QB… However, think Jesus we didn’t draft R. Tannehill… I just don’t see him working out. With that being said why didn’t we go after Matt Flynn? I would have gladly seen Pioli overbid on a 3 year contract… It isn’t like we are up against the salary cap. I just don’t see Cassel doing anything without an OC adjusting their play calling to play to his strength…I wish they would have kept Weis around and got rid of Haley long before they finally did.

By: sfloyal

sfloyal — Thu, 17 May 2012 18:25:59 +0000

If the 49ers can get within two muffed punt returns of the Super Bowl with Alex Smith at QB, then the Chiefs should be alright.

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The Chiefs defense does not have Patrick Willis, or Justin Smith, or Aldon Smith, or Navarro Bowman or…

You get the point.