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Vilma’s lawyer explains decision to sue Goodell

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On Thursday, lawyer Peter Ginsberg filed on behalf of Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma a defamation lawsuit against Commissioner Roger Goodell.

On Friday, Ginsberg joined PFT Live to discuss the situation.

Among other things, Ginsberg explained that reasons for filing the suit, the reasons for the decision to sue only Goodell, and the reasons for choosing Louisiana as the venue.  Ginsberg also addressed whether Vilma fears future retaliation from NFL teams as a result of the decision to sue the man who runs the league.

Pressed on Vilma’s decision to utilize the phrase “never paid or intended to pay” money as an incentive to injure an opponent instead of “never paid or offered to pay,” Ginsberg said that Vilma’s choice of words — which showed up in a May 2 statement, in the lawsuit, and in a recent tweet from Vilma — was actually intended to be broad, and that no offer was ever made, serious or in jest.

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22 Responses to “Vilma’s lawyer explains decision to sue Goodell”
  1. catquick says: May 18, 2012 3:33 PM

    Take your lumps like a man Vilma. You’re guilty.(wrong post before, glitch in the machine, mea culpa)

  2. txxxchief says: May 18, 2012 3:35 PM

    Vilma ought to be careful what he asks for. What turns up in discovery for a trial could land him in prison instead of sitting around for an extended offseason counting his money.

  3. granadafan says: May 18, 2012 3:38 PM

    You know how a lawyer is lying?

    His lips are moving. That was the worst spin job in a desperate attempt to deny his role in bountygate.

  4. blacknole08 says: May 18, 2012 3:43 PM

    Filing an appeal wasn’t enough? Seriously, the man got caught!

    Go ahead and sue. But your only digging yourself a deeper grave as far as the league is concerned.

  5. skolvikesskol says: May 18, 2012 3:45 PM

    Ill give $10k to make vilma go away… Just kidding!

  6. gf2711 says: May 18, 2012 3:56 PM

    So he had to explain what he wrote for Vilma in the first place then? I am sure it wasn’t Vilma’s idea to sue, he just got hooked by a lawyer who saw an opportunity to make some money

  7. thetooloftools says: May 18, 2012 4:05 PM

    Vilma is going to be surprised when his own teamates testify he did throw down $. They are not going to lie for the guy in open court. I’m sure his teamates are really happy he’s going to drag them all into his mess too. Vilma really stepped in it and got bad advice to sue Goodell. Not to bright.

  8. jluns275 says: May 18, 2012 4:36 PM

    Good luck on finding work next year after you are released by the Saints.

  9. westclaims says: May 18, 2012 4:40 PM

    He who is the most guilty will protest the loudest. It’s simple.

  10. bigjdve says: May 18, 2012 4:42 PM

    Vilma’s decision to utilize the phrase “never paid or intended to pay”

    Wow – doesn’t that just smell of, I said it BUT, I never intended to act on it. Why do people keep asking about this guy’s guilt?

  11. dannyabramowitz says: May 18, 2012 5:16 PM

    Your company is being sued by former female employees who claim a hostile work environment.

    Your boss comes into your office one day and tells you that you are suspended without pay for one year for sexual harassment. You say you’ve never sexually harassed anyone, who made the claims, what is the evidence. Your boss says you’ll have to trust me that I have the evidence. You say it’s not fair, can I appeal? Sure, your boss says, but your appeal will be heard by me.

    Your boss then walks out of the office and holds a press conference naming you as a sexual harasser and stating that you’ve been suspended for a year. He boasts that your suspension proves the company’s commitment to women’s rights (which indirectly helps the company’s position in the former employee lawsuits).

    I”ll never get a job again you think. This isn’t fair. What can I do?

    This is exactly how Vilma feels right now, just sub the NFL for the company.

  12. demstinkinbums says: May 18, 2012 5:47 PM

    Now assume the other side of that scenario… What if you had sexually harrased that female employee… And as an employee you signed off on the boss deciding your fate in these matters in exchange for a higher salary and better working conditions including less overall work that you would be required to preform… You’d be saying the EXACT same BS claiming innocence when guilty. This isn’t a court of law, no evidence needs to be made public off of their investigation. It’s silly to use this example as the same… No one knows his innocence or guilt besides the NFL who has autonomy in these cases given to them by… Wait for it… The players themselves. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

  13. silentcount says: May 18, 2012 5:51 PM

    Would the comments be different if you knew that Vilma didn’t do one thing Goodell publicly accused him of. Okay, now how about if you would at least consider that possibility. What exactly do you have that makes you so sure he’s guilty other than Goodell’s claims, and the eagerness for your team to have a better chance of beating the Saints? Keep in mind the NFL’s lead investigator resigned.

  14. kodakinvegas says: May 18, 2012 8:27 PM

    Lie in a deposition and it’s PERJURY period. The FIRST THING Goodells lawyers sre gonna do is hammer him for hours, twist him around and squeeze Jim like a wash towel for hours or days along with 52 othe players, all coaches , GM and Any team membersls related to any of Vilma’s actions or games. Then they will pull all his game files, movies and find enough clear evidence to make him look like a fool. This will be in the. “discovery process”.

    Then they will account in black n White all character references, penalties, fines, career histilory and every filmed game will be subpoenaed and studied for Big Hits anas well as Amy blown up fis of greatest hits, hits , etc.

    Then the chatacter assaisination begins. Were you in the meeting? Did it take place? Did you report it? Was this hit OT that play or extra effort to intentionally harm. Are you sure? Then the depos of all the other players are cross checked for variances.

    Then comes an arbitrary ruling that will find that Goodell acted in his bounds and authority. Lastly, defense counsel will say that in their efforts, they tried to refrain players from this style of play they themselves hold no liability because it is the players themselves doing it to the opposing players of which wwe have several public and wrtitten apologies and confessions of wrongdoing by team management. By time’s end, this will be the case that will precede and trump on coming concussion suits as players were doing to one another wilfully and blatantly despite our attempots to stop it. This will drag on for months and years and unquestionably cause Vilma to give up or to go bankrupt. This is NOT Judge Judys case. This is the Big Boys HAMMERING the peons. It will either go on for years and years, dropped or decided in the favour of the NFL/Roger Goodel expotentionally

    Lastly, remember Goodells push towards safety over the past few years, the thousands of pages of investigations. The amount of money to drive this thing from either Vilma, the NFL or the 32 teams supportive of the Cba agreement. And then question how much does the already troubled NFLPA fInances are, how much will they spend in Vilma’s behalf. That’s if they can even pierce the corporate veil that Roger Goodell stand behind.

    Its not a Judge Judy case, it’s what Goodell wanted though, a single in house case to supersede the oncoming suits for concussions. This will stop by PRECEDENT the majority of them at the Gate. Think the BIGGER PICTURE, look two thrree years down the road and you will see WHY Goodell did not show his hand publicly. He would have been a fool. Show it in a FEDERAL COURTROOM and it will pay HUGE LONG TERM DIVIDENDS. “We tried to stop the violence of player to player for the prevention of injury in a violent game BUT the players themselves willfully with aforethought and concurrence continued to iniate bounty programs. Big mistake by Vilma for everybody coming behind him. This sets the precedent. Period. And the dozens upon dozens of corporate and NFL lawyers are eating it up. The players Assoc couldn’t have let Vilma do a stupor thing than this. You will see or already doLie in a deposition and it’s PERJURY period. The FIRST THING Goodells lawyers sre gonna do is hammer him for hours, twist him around and squeeze Jim like a wash towel for hours or days along with 52 othe players, all coaches , GM and Any team membersls related to any of Vilma’s actions or games. Then they will pull all his game files, movies and find enough clear evidence to make him look like a fool. This will be in the. “discovery process”.

    Then they will account in black n White all character references, penalties, fines, career histilory and every filmed game will be subpoenaed and studied for Big Hits anas well as Amy blown up fis of greatest hits, hits , etc.

    Then the chatacter assaisinatrr begins. Were you in the meeting? Did it take place? Did you report it? Was this hit OT that play or extra effort to intentionally harm. Are you sure? Then the depos of all the other players are cross checked for variances.

    Then comes an arbitrary ruling that will find that Goodell acted in his bounds and authority. Lastly, defines counsel will say that in their efforts, recited to refrain players from this style of play they themselves hold no liability because it is the players themselves doing it to the opposing players of which wwe have several public and wrtitten apologies and confessions of wrongdoing by team management. By time’s end, this will be the case that will precede and trump on coming concussion suits as players were doing to one another wilfully and blatantly despite our attempots to stop it. This will drag on for months and years and unquestionably cause Vilma to give up or to go bankrupt. This is NOT Judge Judys case. This is the aaaBig Boys HAMMERING the peons. It will either go on for years and years, dropped or decided in the favour of the NFL/Roger Goodel expotentionally

    Lastly, remember Goodells push towards safety over the past few years, the thousands if pages of investigations. The amount of money to drive this thing from either Vilma, the NFL or the 32 teams supportive of the Cba agreement. And then question how much does the already troubled NGLPA fonacrs are , how much will they spend in Vilma’s behalf. That’s if they can even pierce the corporate veil that Roger Goodell stand behind.

    Its nit a Judge Judy case, it’s what Goodell wanted though, a single in house case to supersede the oncoming suits for concussions. This will stop by PRECEDENT the majority of yhem at the Gaye. Think the BIGGER PICTURE, look two thrree years down the road and you will see WHY Goodell did not show his hand publicly. He would have been a fool. Show it in a FEDERAL COURTROOM and it will pay HUGE LONG TERM DIVIDENDS. “We tried to stop the violence of player to player for the prevention of injury in a violent game BUT the players themselves willfully with aforethought and concurrence continued to innate bounty programs. Big mistake by Vilma for everybody coming behind him. This sets the precedent. Period. And the dozens upon dozens of corporate and NFL lawyers are eating it up. The players Assoc couldn’t have let Vilma do a stupor thing than this. You will see or already do if you know how the true legal system works. Thank you for your time.
    P.S. If you’ve ever been through a 7-8 hour deposition, you would understand. Every team plsyer and manyoyhers will be deposed in this. It’ds really a nasty game ver nastyless
    less
    if you know how the true legal system works. Thank you for your time.
    P.S. If you’ve ever been through a 7-8 hour deposition, you would understand. Every team player and management will be deposed in this. It’s really a nasty game very nasty. But it’s how the Big Boys play in court.

  15. fmwarner says: May 18, 2012 9:01 PM

    Uh, what?

  16. vikingamericann says: May 18, 2012 9:57 PM

    kodakinvegas

    I did not bother reading your rant, but Vegas must be one boring place on Friday nights, if you have that much time to rant about someone you don’t know.

  17. vikingamericann says: May 18, 2012 10:03 PM

    demstinkinbums | May 18, 2012, 5:47 PM EDT this isn’t a court of law

    When Vilma filed the lawsuit it became a court of law. You seemed to have missed that part.

  18. jpspear says: May 18, 2012 11:31 PM

    demstinkinbums: If you were guilty and there was evidence (18,000 pages) of it, it’s highly unlikely you would pursue it in a court of law. Speaking of which, a court of law is exactly where Vilma is dragging it, where Goodell isn’t all powerful. I would think all the people that are certain the Saints are guilty would want the evidence to come out to prove they were dirty. Curiously they seem scared, afraid of what it might, or might not, show.

  19. thejuddstir says: May 19, 2012 12:15 AM

    I’m tired of Vilma, tired of Payton, tired of G. Williams, tired to Brees, tired of Tom Benson and tired of the Taints*………….where’s Brett Favre, I’d rather read countless stories about a real legend vs. a sick legacy.

  20. kodakinvegas says: May 19, 2012 1:40 AM

    Vikingamerica or whatever,
    Nowhere near as boring as living in MN. OR being a loser Viking fan as well. Not to mention rude Hope you freeze your a$$ off this winter in your maybe temporary college stadium (old) if your idiotic state legislature has enough sense to get one passed for the Vikes . Or are they going to L.A. ? The latter would be preferable. Nothing personal, as I’m sure your rude remarks weren’t either . I posted an apology for the duplicated post but Mike did not run it smart mouth. p.s. Please look at time of posts idiot before you run your diarrhoea mouth. Jerk

  21. kodakinvegas says: May 19, 2012 2:26 PM

    Once again to all NBC Sport talk fans and Mike Florio, I sincerely apologize for the duplication malfunction of my post.My first apology did not get through so hopefully this one will. I was proofing it and evidently I screwed up something bad , thus the multiplicity of some paragraphs. Agai , I apologize. Mike, please let my apology through. Thank you

  22. kodakinvegas says: May 19, 2012 2:37 PM

    No need to post Mike, this is for you
    THANK YOU BUDDY. KodakinVegas

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