Comments on: Bengals organization has reservations about Andy Dalton

By: steelcityrapist

steelcityrapist — Thu, 24 May 2012 02:31:59 +0000

IM NOT WORRIED!….
WHO DEY!

By: mattysold

mattysold — Tue, 22 May 2012 03:45:38 +0000

i think this is BS, which Jay Gruden said later. i think part of the reason his stats came down was the fact that Benson & the running game wasn’t the threat it was suppose to be & defenses started to shift towards more pass coverage.

By: kameleono

kameleono — Tue, 22 May 2012 02:37:15 +0000

I really have no opinion on Dalton as I haven’t watched him play much but I do take issue with Cosell’s reasoning as to why the organization may have reservations about him. The idea that a rocket launcher for an arm is all it takes to be a good QB is ridiculous. Cosell’s sole reasoning as to why he believed RG3 would be a better pro QB than Luck was based on their arm. If that were all it took to be a great QB then Kyle Boller would be in the HOF. Dalton can make all the throws and that’s all that matters.

By: demoderbydoug

demoderbydoug — Tue, 22 May 2012 00:17:18 +0000

As a Bengals fan I have to say we had a qb with arm strength for 9 years but no heart and fire as he proved last year. While I admit aj made him look very good on some of his deep balls last year Dalton realized he had some issues throwing the deep ball last year and has been working in the offseason to improve it. Anyone who says he can’t throw an out route apparently got him confused with the previous qb who enjoyed throwing pick 6′s that way. It is too early to anoint him as a superstar but it’s also too early to call him a pennington. He is showing to be dedicated to improving his game and I am much happier to have him at qb than the guy who had all the “tools”

By: hrdcorbengalsfan

hrdcorbengalsfan — Mon, 21 May 2012 20:01:08 +0000

Bored are you, Cosell?

By: whodeytn

whodeytn — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:48:53 +0000

You should always draft a player you have doubts about. Hmm at least the Bungles think so it seems.
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Big LOL here.

How are those great drafts working out for your Jags?

By: whodeytn

whodeytn — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:46:07 +0000

Let’s see… He had no running game, a bad line, a disappointing defense, and a rookie WR and STILL took his team to the playoffs!

Typical Bengals hate story.

By: johnnyb1976

johnnyb1976 — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:32:02 +0000

Why is there Jags fans commenting on this story considering they know exactly what they have with Gabbert. The green eyed monster of a jealous fan base with a first round bust at QB is starting to rear its ugly head.

By: nopepper123

nopepper123 — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:29:50 +0000

Wait, make that 18……..he played a playoff game as well…

By: nopepper123

nopepper123 — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:29:07 +0000

I think the only real people that should comment on Dalton are the true Bengal fans that watched him 16 games last year. They probably know more than anyone on whether or not this guy has it or not……..wait, make that 17 games……….he looked pretty confident in the Pro Bowl game too……lol.

By: db423

db423 — Mon, 21 May 2012 18:07:51 +0000

Newsflash… Apparently the Colts have reservations about Manning and the Broncos have reservations about Tebow. If the Bengals really feel that way then why no QB in the draft? At least Dalton can tell his grandkids “I was the winning quarterback in the last pro-bowl ever played.”

By: jjackwagon

jjackwagon — Mon, 21 May 2012 17:29:33 +0000

“they run from the truth like it’s the plague.”
I can’t argue this but the fact that a Raiders fan said it has me LMAO!!!
(Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, or should I say silver & black)

By: londonbengal

londonbengal — Mon, 21 May 2012 17:21:54 +0000

@ ‘noquickreactionshere’ says……

……he’s going to keep that team competetive, but will struggle against strong defences’……

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Sure he’ll struggle against strong defences.

All QB’s struggle aginst strong defences, that’s why they’re strong defences……

By: londonbengal

londonbengal — Mon, 21 May 2012 17:07:51 +0000

‘………he has physical limitations. He isn’t particularly big, strong-armed or athletic…….’

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Sure, thats what they said about Joe Montana back in the day.

How many big, strong-armed and athletic QB’s can you name that have completely flunked in the NFL ?

Dalton just wins games, has done right thru college, and against all the odds posted a rookie winning NFL season.

Thru’ it all, the one thing that impressed me about Dalton last year, was just how damn cool he looked rollin’ into tough gigs in places like Pitt and B’more. He just looked like he belonged. And if you don’t believe me , just go ask Roethlisburger; full of praise for Dalton.

If they were to re-run last years draft knowing what they know now, Dalton would be top 10, maybe #2 after Cam. How many teams that passed on him, wish they had him now ?

No one knows how Dalton will perform the rest of his career, but right now, this particular Bengal fan is real glad we have him and not Palmer.

By: brenenostler

brenenostler — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:47:00 +0000

Cincinnati has forever been a losing franchise, and Dalton takes them to the playoffs his first year there. And they have doubts about him?

No wonder Cincinnati has forever been a losing franchise.

By: infectorman

infectorman — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:46:10 +0000

cincyhokiesays:
Maybe, but consider: The offensive line is improved from last season to include Kevin Zeitler. Add in Mohamed Sanu, Orson Charles, and Marvin Jones. Bringing back Jordan Shipley too.

No defense is covering Gresham AND Charles AND Sanu one on one on intermediate routes in a WC offense.

Dalton will have a better offense to work with this season.

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Plus, you got the ANTI-fumble machine in BJGE.
Old slow and steady wins the race.

Of course, with the Bengals luck, he’ll probably have his first professional fumble in week 1…

By: inthezone4

inthezone4 — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:27:27 +0000

Stick to your crappy Canadian football. Joe your opinion is a joke. Fully expect the Bengals to make the playoffs this year.

By: jamesstinnett

jamesstinnett — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:24:28 +0000

Joetoronto

So what your saying is that a rookie with no experience is supposed to come out and beat great defensive teams like the steelers, ravens, and texans?? Remember that all the teams in our division finished in the top 10 for defense.

By: cincyorangenblack

cincyorangenblack — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:22:02 +0000

joetoronto says:
May 21, 2012 12:06 PM
“Dalton roared out of the gates against a soft early-season schedule, only to flounder when the passing windows got smaller against stouter stretch-run defenses.”

Everybody noticed this but Bungals fans won’t own it, they run from the truth like it’s the plague.

I fully expect Dalton and Green to have a much tougher time this year
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What truth are us Bengal fans running from? We beat the teams we should have beat, and struggled big time against playoff caliber teams…with a rookie QB/WR Pro Bowl combo, and rookie NFL Offensive Coordinator…in the no offseason lockout year.
Truth is Dalton had a more successful season than the #1 overall pick and OROY. In Cincy, we want WINS not STATS.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:06:40 +0000

“Dalton roared out of the gates against a soft early-season schedule, only to flounder when the passing windows got smaller against stouter stretch-run defenses.”

Everybody noticed this but Bungals fans won’t own it, they run from the truth like it’s the plague.

I fully expect Dalton and Green to have a much tougher time this year.

By: shaunypoo

shaunypoo — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:06:09 +0000

I’m fine with the comparisons to pennington. He was fantastic, even with limited arm strength, till the injuries piled up. In a west coast offense he will do fine. Still wouldn’t mind a running game, though the firm is a better goal line back than we have had in ages.

By: ottomanismydog

ottomanismydog — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:53:40 +0000

The Bengals front office is one of the worst in the league – so for them to doubt him is probably a good thing – means he’ll be good.

By: 2ruefan

2ruefan — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:43:21 +0000

Hey “realnflmaster”..
Couple things:
1) First I think you mean “You’re” not “your”

2) I don’t think you understand the reference to a “strong arm” when referencing a QB. It doesn’t mean the size of their biceps. Tim Tebow has MUSCULAR arms but does NOT have a “strong Arm” in terms of ability to throw deep.

For someone who is an “NFLMASTER” you sure seem to have little understanding of general football terminology…

By: jamesstinnett

jamesstinnett — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:42:20 +0000

Carson Palmer was the quarterback here for around 9 years.. He had 2 playoff games. Andy Dalton 1 year- 1 playoff game. Dalton will be a lot better than Palmer, and is my opinion will be a top ten QB in this league for years to come.

By: sd5547

sd5547 — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:37:23 +0000

His physical limitations are that he is a red head. No red haired quarter back has ever won a playoff game let alone a Super Bowl. You cannot win a Super Bowl when you team is ripping on your starting QB.

By: yelix

yelix — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:31:00 +0000

Pretty stupid, if it’s true. I see this guy as a genuine leader and franchise QB. If the Bengals didn’t want him, I would hope that Scott Pioli would be on the phone immediately trying to pawn Cassel onto them in exchange for Dalton.

By: mac3333

mac3333 — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:30:22 +0000

If Cosell was so smart some NFL team would give him a job. Dude works for NFL Films. Does anyone care what the Sabol family thinks about prospects? NO. So why do we care what Cosell thinks? If he was so shrewd wouldnt he be working for one of the 32 teams?

By: pantherpro

pantherpro — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:25:10 +0000

You’re no Cam Newton as much as the redneck white NFL fans seem to think!

By: rabidbillsfan

rabidbillsfan — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:12:10 +0000

@realnflmaster

I think your a Jets fan, as most of your posts allude to a Jets player most of the time, so I’ll ask you this. Tim Tebow’s arm is strong, so that means he will be an awesome NFL QB right? Derek Anderson had a Rocket launcher mounted to his shoulder, so he’s succesful, right? First, the out route is a difficult route to complete for any QB, it’s more about timing and accuracy than arm strength (Unless your running the 7-12 yard variety, then Arm Strength is important). I’ve seen him throw the deep ball, he has plenty of touch, and pretty good accuracy. Arm Strength is somewhat overrated in todays NFL. Crossing patterns, timming routes, 5-8 yard back shoulder throws, curls, swings. Those are the most effective routes in the NFL today. Why? Because they take take the shortest time to develop. A 7-12 yard out route is usually a 2nd-3rd read, or, a 7 step drop pattern. It just takes too long to develop. Also, why attack some of the most athletic guys on the field when you can create mismathces with TE’s on LB’s and Safteys on Slot guys. The team has to willingly be succesful with Dalton for them to have success. Look at Chan Gailey. He wanted to be succesful with the guys he has had, so he has molded his offense around them. Dalton reminds me more of Ryan Fitzpatrick than any other QB mentioned. I’m sure Andy will have a better career, but the physical tools are the same, as well as the intelligence. I’m sure it will be Dalton to Green in stripes for a very long time.

By: propertyofthebroncos

propertyofthebroncos — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:10:16 +0000

Had Brees gone anywhere without a dome he wouldn’t be popular like he is now. But its true, no rookie can be judged with just one year.