Jay Gruden: No reservations about Dalton’s arm strength

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Earlier on Monday, Silva shared Greg Cosell of NFL Films’ thoughts about Andy Dalton’s lack of arm strength.

Cosell said that he thinks Dalton has some limitations when it comes to arm strength and that he’s heard there are members of the Bengals organization that feel the same way. Offensive coordinator Jay Gruden responded to Cosell on Monday, telling Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer that he doesn’t have any doubts about Dalton’s ability to do the job.

“I don’t know where that came from and why he said it,” Gruden said. “If there were reservations about Andy Dalton there would be a lot more quarterbacks here right now. We know and he knows he has to get better. … I have no reservations about arm strength. I think he can do it all.”

Dalton’s play tailed off in the second half of last season as the Bengals’ schedule got harder and their reliance on A.J. Green to catch passes became common knowledge. While his arm will never blow you away, Dalton was pretty comfortable running Gruden’s offense and that’s surely why Gruden has no reservations about his arm strength.

Just about every quarterback has limitations, but plenty of them succeed anyway because they find ways to succeed in spite of them. After one year we can’t know if Dalton is such a player, but he certainly did enough last year to make you think he’s got a pretty good shot.

36 responses to “Jay Gruden: No reservations about Dalton’s arm strength

  1. As Blaine Gabbert proved, arm strength can only get you so far. You have to have “it” and Dalton clearly has “it”. As long as he’s got AJ Green out there, Dalton will be just fine.

    And I’m a Jaguars fan. Good pick Bengals

  2. if carson palmer wins a superbowl with the raiders,

    then yes ,

    it becomes the greatest trade in football history

  3. Arm strength is overrated. A QB needs a wide mix of skills and abilities to be successful and very few excel at all of them. Sometimes QBs with big arms take more chances because they think they can get the ball in a tiny spot and they wind up throwing a ton of interceptions. (Ever seen Favre play?)

  4. Thanks Alper, a balanced, pragmatic view of something that is inherently unpredictable.

    Dalton’s floor is Pennington and his ceiling is Brees. We’ll have a decent idea by the end of next year where he will fit along that continuum, and we’ll pretty much know for sure after 3 years.

  5. Dalton does lack accuracy sometimes on the DEEP BALL, that ball can look like a wounded duck. I am a bengals fan, and from what i’ve heard dalton added a little muscle and weight. He will get stronger, and I remember everyone saying brees would never make it in the NFL because of his limitations in height and arm strength, and look where he is now. Dalton will, in the end, prove to everyone he is a pro bowl caliber QB.

  6. Like Gruden said, if they were concerned there would be more QB’s on the team. Bengals had 10 draft picks and used none of them on a QB. I think theyre happy with Dalton.

  7. “there would be a lot more quarterbacks here right now.”

    Even without context, I bet we all could have guessed a Gruden uttered those words.

  8. Dear Jay,

    No one was expecting you to come out in public and say you had concerns about your starting QBs arm strength
    .

    Love,
    Nfl fans

  9. I’m sick of hearing about arm strength as if it is the only thing that matters. I mean, it’s good to have a rocket arm, but it’s far from a make or break trait. I don’t think anyone would pass on Joe Montana in his prime due to the fact that he had a relatively weak arm.

  10. Well last off season they didn’t have time to work on his mechanics.with a shortened off season and rookie OC they figured be best game play book down…

    Now that Dalton has entire Offseason they can work on his Mechanics to improve his deep ball.

  11. 32bigg says: May 21, 2012 5:30 PM

    Thanks Alper, a balanced, pragmatic view of something that is inherently unpredictable.

    Dalton’s floor is Pennington and his ceiling is Brees.
    ————————————————

    My ceiling with women is Scarlett Johansson and Mila Kunis. Theoretically. Like Dalton and Brees.

  12. have to laugh…the kid has been in the league all of year, and desperatley people want to make something about nothing….same goes for cam as well….do it for a few years. The only thing i know he is not a snot wiping rookie anymore, and that about it.

  13. by the was joetoronto is a raiders fan so he posts on bengals news cause he’s still bitter about the Carson trade… just sayin

  14. profootballwalk says:
    May 21, 2012 6:25 PM
    32bigg says: May 21, 2012 5:30 PM

    Thanks Alper, a balanced, pragmatic view of something that is inherently unpredictable.

    Dalton’s floor is Pennington and his ceiling is Brees.
    ————————————————

    My ceiling with women is Scarlett Johansson and Mila Kunis. Theoretically. Like Dalton and Brees.

    __
    Too bad your reality is Rosanne Barr and Melissa McCarthy.

  15. I have a reason to believe a Steelers sympathizer planted this story in order to shake Dalton’s confidence before this season starts.

  16. bozosforall says: May 21, 2012 8:25 PM

    Too bad your reality is Rosanne Barr and Melissa McCarthy.

    ———————————-

    Roseanne BARR?

    Do you charge a lot for a ride in your time machine, Doc? Because I might be interested.

  17. mjbulls45 says: May 21, 2012 5:15 PM

    if carson palmer wins a superbowl with the raiders,

    then yes ,

    it becomes the greatest trade in football history

    —————————————————–

    Dalton has nothing to do with the Palmer trade he was drafted way before Palmer was traded.

    Palmer was traded at the half way point of the season.

  18. Andy Dalton seemed to be a good enough QB to me—he fits what the Bengals do in a West Coast system. Dalton definitely has the playmakers around him to succeed. I’d say if he didn’t turn the ball over so much there wouldn’t be a reason to point our what he “can’t do”. I bet any other team in the league would want him on the roster and he could probably start for most of them.

  19. As a Seattle fan, I am jealous that Dalton is being analyzed to the nth degree. He must have done something good to get this type of pub.

    James Carpenter may never live up to the noodle armed Dalton. But he is our guy. Oye.

  20. Andy did a fine job last season. As I posted previously, he can tell his grandchildren “I was the winning quarterback in the last Pro Bowl ever played. And yes, I did beat Cam Newton.” The truth is by the second half of the season the Bengals were pretty beaten up. Not only was it becoming apparent that the running game was suffering, but everybody was double teamining A.J. with the loss of Shipley. The Defense suffered a serious loss when Leon Hall was knocked out for the season. Actually, the running game should take a serious step up this year with Green-Ellis and Heron. The wide receiver corps should also be a pleasent surprise with Shipley returning, Famu and A.J.

    There will definitely be more arrows in Andy’s quiver. Should be a good season especially considering the Steelers are re-tooling, but I’m starting to be a fan of the youth movement and constantly building.

  21. Brees and Brady came into the league with less-than-strong arms. They worked on their mechanics and improved their velocity, and that’s exactly what Dalton has been doing this offseason. He’ll be fine. His arm was above Pennington’s level to start with.

  22. Yeah cause arm strength is everything.. Remember when it was a big deal that Jamarcus Russel could take a knee at the 20 yard line and throw it on the fly to the opposite end zone?? What a QB he turned out to be… Dalton may not have the best arm in the league, but his leadership and decision making more than makes up for that. Plus with Ed Reed, Polamalu, and an up and coming safety in T.J. Ward in our division why would we want to throw the ball that deep anyways?

  23. I live in cincinnati and have been not only to games but also to daltons first training camp last year.i was a little worried about how small he was,until I saw the accuracy drill.it was dalton,gradkowski,and dan lefevre,and guess who won by a massive amount.i saw andy daalton stand 200 feet back from a round steel hole with a net in it,and lace 9 in a row.gradkowski did 4 in a row.i have no question about arm strength or accuracy.notice drew brees.he has got in a system from sean payton that maximizes his ability.there is not a system specific exactly suited for a players skill set as good as the one in new orleans.ive never seen anything like it.brees has gotten with incredibly intelligent coaches,told them what he does best,and they have built a system around him that always wins and puts up monster stats.thats what happens when you have smart players get with smart coaches.i believe dalton and gruden are such type of peole.in faact sean paytoon was asked who are the next genius level offensive minds in the nfl.the first name he said was j

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