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Report: Progress in Ray Rice contract talks

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Running back Ray Rice isn’t expected to be at Ravens OTAs this week, but the Baltimore Sun reports that his absence isn’t a sign that contract talks are moving in the wrong direction.

Quite the opposite, actually. Jeff Zrebiec of the Sun writes Monday that the two sides are making progress toward a long-term contract. No deal is imminent, but the two sides are talking and moving toward a deal despite the many issues that need to be worked out. They have until July 16th to come to an agreement, but the hope is that the deal can be done sooner than that.

If no deal is reached, Rice would have the choice of signing his $7.7 million franchise tender or holding out from training camp. There’s been no indication that he’s planning to do that, although there’s still two months to go before push comes to shove.

Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune reported over the weekend that Rice wants $10 million per season from the Ravens and that he’s unlikely to get it. That sounds right, especially in light of LeSean McCoy getting less than that despite being two years younger than Rice. The two players aren’t perfectly comparable to one another, but there are similarities that would seem to make McCoy’s deal a good jumping off point for the Rice negotiations.

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38 Responses to “Report: Progress in Ray Rice contract talks”
  1. ravenator says: May 21, 2012 11:26 AM

    You only wish your team had a RB like Ray Rice, such a class act and so beast on the field!!!!

    Oh and he doesn’t hate America like some RBs I know.

  2. cali49er707 says: May 21, 2012 11:26 AM

    its cheaper to set the market price then sign these type of players later, the eagles were smart to get their guy signed before any of the other top backs signed, each agent & player wants more or equal to the guy before them, the ball is in the court of the ravens with rice & the bears with forte, because once they hit free agency they are all but gone!!

  3. andyb02 says: May 21, 2012 11:27 AM

    McCoy is better and younger than Rice so he is high if he thinks he should be paid more.

  4. burm61 says: May 21, 2012 11:32 AM

    Report: Ravens still don’t want to sign Flacco.

  5. bdawkins20 says: May 21, 2012 11:41 AM

    mccoy is much better than rice and can do so much more so why does he think he deserves more..he is a good back but not great.

  6. bearsrulepackdrool says: May 21, 2012 11:48 AM

    Forte…Bears…your turn.

  7. xinellum says: May 21, 2012 11:49 AM

    Ray Rice is more than any other running back in the league. He is a number 1 or 2 rusher in the league, a number 1 reciever out of the backfield, he is a leader on and off the field, and he is heavily involved in Baltimore in off field activities. No where will you find another player with the physical skills and heart of Ray Rice and who wants to settle for a maybe rookie or a free agent has been when we already have the real deal in Ray Rice.

  8. jdfrox says: May 21, 2012 11:55 AM

    I know we all like our guys, but saying McCoy is “much better than rice and can do so much more” is a little ridiculous. Rice had over 2,000 total yards last season. McCoy had 1,600. Rice had 76, 63, and 78 receptions the past 3 years. McCoy had 48, 78 and 40. Rice has had more rushing yards ever season the two have played. You can say they are comporable, but saying McCoy is better is not based on the facts.

  9. sudz28 says: May 21, 2012 11:58 AM

    Sorry, gotta disagree with you Eagles fans. I may be a Steeler fanatic, but even I know Ray Rice is at least a top-three RB in the league right now, if not #1. Not only is he a great runner, he doubles as a kick-ass receiver. I do indeed wish that the Steelers had grabbed him back in the day instead of picking up Mendenhall. The Ratbirds will definitely get a deal done with this guy, is effective IS their offense.

  10. southpaw2k says: May 21, 2012 11:59 AM

    I’d love to see Rice get his money with time to spare for training camp. That way the Ravens can turn to dealing with Flacco next, and then possibly Reed if they decide to keep him for a few more years.

  11. Stiller43 says: May 21, 2012 12:00 PM

    As a steeler fan, i think the ravens should use all their money signing their “top 5 qb” to a long term deal and let Rice go.

    Pretty please?

  12. schmitty2 says: May 21, 2012 12:04 PM

    bdawkins20 says:May 21, 2012 11:41 AM

    mccoy is much better than rice and can do so much more so why does he think he deserves more..he is a good back but not great

    Last 3 years

    Mccoy-3026 rushing yards-28 td’s, 166 receptions-5 td’s

    Rice-3923 rushing yards-24 td’s,217 receptions 5 td’s

    Care to argue that Mccoy is so much better?

  13. bshuclassof2012 says: May 21, 2012 12:04 PM

    Over last 32 games:

    Ray Rice: 2584 Rushing Yds, 139 Catches, 1260 Rec Yds

    Shady McCoy: 2389 Rushing Yds, 126 Catches, 907 Yds

    Those seem like pretty comparable players to me. You guys are crazy to put Rice below Mccoy when they are at the very least in the same tier. Numbers don’t lie.

  14. polo550 says: May 21, 2012 12:04 PM

    Wait a minute… Am I missing something? Because in what bizarro world is LeSean McCoy better thant Ray Rice? Last I checked Rice led the league in yards from scrimmage and was second in rushing. Not to mention durable and his team goes to the playoffs every year. McCoy is definitely a good back and is up and coming but for all the good runs he makes he loses just as many yards running around in the backfield. He might not even be the best back in his division once DeMarco Murray from Dallas gets back from his injury.

  15. pxeeks says: May 21, 2012 12:10 PM

    McCoy is better. Hands down!

  16. ravenator says: May 21, 2012 12:10 PM

    What has the Philadelphia Eagles done as of late? Oh that’s right nothing…they put together a “dream” team and failed miserably. Worst fans in the NFL, yes I’m talking about you Philly.

  17. gregeer says: May 21, 2012 12:29 PM

    Plus, another thing that you can’t ignore when directly comparing Rice and McCoy is that Rice has to play the likes of Pittsburgh and Cincy twice a year each. The NFC East run D’s can’t hold a candle to them.

  18. bigbadal21 says: May 21, 2012 12:31 PM

    Steeler fan here. Ray Rice is the real deal. McCoy is no where near the player Rice is. I hope the Ravens lose him and if not I hope he takes a huge bite out of their cap.

  19. ravenmuscle says: May 21, 2012 12:57 PM

    I just heard Roethlisberger ran into a brick wall while riding his motorcycle without wearing a helmit AGAIN….what little brains he has are scattered everywhere.

    Of course this will have NO effect on his IQ.

  20. ppdoc13 says: May 21, 2012 1:13 PM

    The bottom line for Ray Rice is that he is going to be paid handsomely, but not what he thought. McCoy, Rice, and Foster are all very similar type of backs. We can all quibble about who is better, but frankly there is very little separating any of them. Personally, I think Rice is the best because he has to do it every year against the best defenses in the league in the Steelers and now the Bengals. But there isn’t much separating all three guys. And that means that Ray is goint to have to “accept” a contract that gives him about 20 million gauranteed and a salary average of about 8 per year. He might think he is worth more, but the market has been set. I sure as heck wish someone would disrespect me with that type of cash.

    Nice to see Steeler fans admit that Ray Rice is top tier. Nice class Steeler fans. See you for next years battles.

  21. bdawkins20 says: May 21, 2012 1:43 PM

    i must be missing something, did i see that the afc north has better defenses? ray rice runs against the steelers, yes a great d and who else?, the bungles the browns and those powerhouse d’s. come on. rice also carries the ball more casue the offence is lacking, so of course his yards are more, but his yards average is lower than mccoy not by much but still lower. demarco murray are you kidding me..lol

  22. pjevonj says: May 21, 2012 1:56 PM

    Unfortunately, Ray Rice plays a position that has diminishing value in todays NFL. With Rice halfway into the average lifespan of a runningback, the Ravens are smart not to extend his deal past this season. Look at what Chicago did with Forte and look what happened to Forte during the season. He should be happy with the 7.7MM and test the market during free-agency next year.

  23. southpaw2k says: May 21, 2012 1:59 PM

    bdawkins20 says:
    May 21, 2012 1:43 PM
    i must be missing something, did i see that the afc north has better defenses? ray rice runs against the steelers, yes a great d and who else?, the bungles the browns and those powerhouse d’s. come on. rice also carries the ball more casue the offence is lacking, so of course his yards are more, but his yards average is lower than mccoy not by much but still lower. demarco murray are you kidding me..lol

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    You are missing something. The Bengals finished #10 in rush defense in 2011, so they aren’t the pushover you make them out to be. And lest you forget, they made the playoffs last year as well.

    And I tried reading your last sentence several times, but I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. Are you saying Rice’s yards per carry is lower than DeMarco Murray and/or McCoy?

  24. jacksaysfu says: May 21, 2012 2:11 PM

    Ray Rice is a great running back . his final numbers should be very close to Lesean ‘Shady’ McCoy but just a little less . I think Shadys the better RB & he’s younger so why not just copy Arian Fosters contract & tell Ray to sign on the dotted line ?

  25. jdfrox says: May 21, 2012 2:13 PM

    bdawkins – do yourself a favor and go to http://www.nfl.com and compare the stats of these two guys before you embarass yourself any further. Steelers number 1 D. Bengals 7. Browns 10. And Rice had 22 more carries. Besides all of that, you are missing the bigger point. You said McCoy is “much better.” Noone disputes he is a good back. But much better than Ray Rice? No.

  26. andyb02 says: May 21, 2012 2:18 PM

    What has the Philadelphia Eagles done as of late? Oh that’s right nothing…they put together a “dream” team and failed miserably. Worst fans in the NFL, yes I’m talking about you Philly.
    ______________________________________

    Worst fans huh? I guess if the worst fans sell out every game within a matter of minutes and have a packed stadium even during the last game of the season when there won’t be any playoffs. I guess bad fans have a waiting list of thousands of people for season tickets for a team that hasn’t won a championship since 1960. I can see why people hate Philly fans. Were louder, more passionate, and more intimidating. We live and die by our teams unlike a lot of fair weather cities who give a nice little golf clap and say maybe next year. Fans like us are easy to hate because deep down you wish you could be half of what we are. Haters gonna hate.

  27. fsf7 says: May 21, 2012 2:29 PM

    ravenator says:
    May 21, 2012 11:26 AM
    You only wish your team had a RB like Ray Rice, such a class act and so beast on the field!!!!

    Oh and he doesn’t hate America like some RBs I know.
    _________________

    Curious – how many RBs do you know?

    BTW – Reading comments over twitter does not constitute knowing anyone. It makes you an idiot sitting in your mom’s house pretending to be something you are not.

  28. jacksaysfu says: May 21, 2012 2:29 PM

    @schmitty : Those numbers for the last 3 years mean nothing cause McCoy was just a change of pace back his first year . If he was the featured back (we still had westbrook) he would have more rushing yards then Rice . He still has more TD’s then Rice

    @ Why don’t you compare the TD’s over the last 32 games . I know your obviously a Rice fan , and he’s a great back but dont only put some of the stats out there . McCoy does more & deserves a smidget more , or better yet just give em all the same contract

  29. polo550 says: May 21, 2012 2:41 PM

    bdawkins20 says:

    i must be missing something, did i see that the afc north has better defenses? ray rice runs against the steelers, yes a great d and who else?, the bungles the browns and those powerhouse d’s. come on. rice also carries the ball more casue the offence is lacking, so of course his yards are more, but his yards average is lower than mccoy not by much but still lower. demarco murray are you kidding me..lol
    ————————————

    LMAO. How many teams from the AFC North went to the playoffs? 3. That’s 3 out of 4 in the division. I’ll give you that the Giants won the SB but it took the Cowboys to lose a division game for the Giants to even get into the playoffs. They were what 9-7? Three of the top defenses in the league belong to the AFC North. Don’t worry. The Ravens, Steelers, and the Bengals play the NFC East this year. You can get a nice close up of what it takes to play in a real division.

  30. jagsfanugh says: May 21, 2012 2:50 PM

    Who cares who one thinks is better. Rb isn’t as important as has been in the past. Qb is the most important position, then I would say DE, LT, WR and so on. An average rb is all you need to win a Super Bowl. Heck MJD won the rushing title..big deal, the team was 5-11.

  31. dontstabmeray says: May 21, 2012 2:54 PM

    As a Steeler fan I can say Rice is excellent and I hope the Ravens stick with him for a while. The rest of the NFL knows that having a good defense and a running game can get you wins in the regular season but won’t win you a super bowl. It’s a passing league and the Ravens will not be getting to a Super Bowl with Flacco. So yes, please sign Ray and continue to make him the focal point of your offense. Just imagine that offense without him……….

  32. joewilliesshnoz says: May 21, 2012 3:06 PM

    Ya gotta love those Big East running backs .

  33. eaglesw00t says: May 21, 2012 3:17 PM

    polo550 says:
    May 21, 2012 12:04 PM
    Wait a minute… Am I missing something? Because in what bizarro world is LeSean McCoy better thant Ray Rice? Last I checked Rice led the league in yards from scrimmage and was second in rushing. Not to mention durable and his team goes to the playoffs every year. McCoy is definitely a good back and is up and coming but for all the good runs he makes he loses just as many yards running around in the backfield. He might not even be the best back in his division once DeMarco Murray from Dallas gets back from his injury.

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    I think you are the one in Bizarro world. You are aware that Lesean McCoy led the league in rushing yards for the majority of the season. And if he werent forced to miss a game, he probably would have won the rushing title.

    As for your durable remark…McCoy has missed one game in his 3 year career. And it was a game that was meaningless to him, as the Eagles were already out of the playoffs.

    How do you figure he dances around and loses too much ground in the backfield? Have you ever watched him play? You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about.

    McCoy averaged 4.8 ypc, whereas Rice was at 4.6

    Im not going to say McCoy is much better. But I do think they are comparable backs. I believe if Reid called as many screens and passes to McCoy, he would have had monster numbers too. But he was held in to pass block a ton last season because the Eagles O Line was so porous.

    People need to stop with the blind Eagles hate. Lesean is a fantastic back, and no matter how you want to skew your numbers, McCoy would have been at the top of rushing yards if he had as many carries.

  34. schmitty2 says: May 21, 2012 3:19 PM

    jacksaysfu says:May 21, 2012 2:29 PM

    @schmitty : Those numbers for the last 3 years mean nothing cause McCoy was just a change of pace back his first year . If he was the featured back (we still had westbrook) he would have more rushing yards then Rice . He still has more TD’s then Rice

    @ Why don’t you compare the TD’s over the last 32 games . I know your obviously a Rice fan , and he’s a great back but dont only put some of the stats out there . McCoy does more & deserves a smidget more , or better yet just give em all the same contract

    Ok so take out the first year and go by the last 2-stats are pretty equal. PLEASE show me (Stats aside) that Mccoy is the better back. Same sized contract for Rice

  35. eaglesw00t says: May 21, 2012 3:19 PM

    ravenator says:
    May 21, 2012 12:10 PM
    What has the Philadelphia Eagles done as of late? Oh that’s right nothing…they put together a “dream” team and failed miserably. Worst fans in the NFL, yes I’m talking about you Philly.

    ———————————

    What have the Ravens done as of late? Oh, thats right, nothing. They put together a team with “the best QB in the NFL” and failed miserably. Worst fans in the country.

  36. bdawkins20 says: May 21, 2012 3:53 PM

    you guys crack me. the afc north is 2 team division every year. dont start with this bungles browns stuff, those are 4 easy wins every year. ray rice is a product of a team with no offence and 40000 screen passes. mjd is the same back and does more with less and i consider him far better than rice. ray rice had 15 total td’s mccoy had 17 rushing alone and led the league with 20.

  37. jdfrox says: May 21, 2012 4:22 PM

    All of this my team is better than your team talk is about as cool as saying my dad could beat up your dad. The Eagles and Ravens are both top franchises. They both have die hard fans. They both have good owners. They both have great stadiums. And most importantly, they are both in the playoff hunt every year. As I said before, these backs are comporable as well. Which one is better? Who cares? They are both great for their teams. Rice will probably end up with a deal very similar to McCoys. However, Rice has a little more leverage than McCoy as he is at the end of his contract. I believe McCoy was in the middle of his. I just can’t believe we went this long without anyone saying Lewis is a murderer and Vick a dog killer.

  38. steelymcbeam6 says: May 21, 2012 6:03 PM

    Even tho the RB position isn’t as Important as it used to be, ray rice is a beast. I accounted for 36.7% of the ravens offensive touches last year! The guy is a stud, just pay the man. With that being said, go steelers!

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