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Jarret Johnson calls leg pads a “P.R. stunt”

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Understandably, players who don’t want to wear leg pads are not reacting favorably to the NFL’s decision that, come 2013, they’ll have to wear leg pads.

“There’ll probably be a lot of fines in 2013,” Chargers cornerback Quentin Jammer told Michael Gehlken of U-T San Diego.  “A lot of guys won’t wear them.”

That group includes Jammer.

“It’s dumb,” Jammer said.  “Ridiculous to me.  I don’t think anybody should be required to wear [them].  I don’t get hit, so I don’t need to worry about pads.  Offensive players should wear them because we hit them, but I don’t think it should be mandatory.

“You play this game because you want to play this game, and the risks you take are the risks you take.  If you don’t want to wear hip pads, knee pads or thigh pads, you shouldn’t have to.  It should be a choice.”

Chargers linebacker Jarret Johnson, who joined the team in March from the Ravens, was more pointed.

“It’s a bunch of guys who never played football before,” Johnson said.  “You hear it all the time.  They’re saying, ‘Why do players always complain about player safety if they’re not going to wear thigh pads?’ Well, thigh bruises and knee bruises aren’t ending careers.

“The repetitive amount of hits we take, day in and day out — this, to me, is a P.R. stunt. . . .  If you get hit in the legs, you’re doing something wrong. You’re either getting cut or standing there.  Usually, when guys are aggressive and they’re hitting back, the legs aren’t usually getting hit.”

If the NFLPA agrees to the change, it won’t matter.  And it won’t simply be a matter of paying fines.  Like all other uniform violations, the NFL eventually will prevent a non-conforming player from taking the field.

That’ll be the quickest way to get all players to accept the changes.

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66 Responses to “Jarret Johnson calls leg pads a “P.R. stunt””
  1. hooks024 says: May 22, 2012 9:34 PM

    Sounds like the same logic used by factory workers who don’t want to wear safety glasses and ear plugs. Just like him, they are morons.

  2. Burritto says: May 22, 2012 9:36 PM

    Jarret Johnson calls leg pads a P.R. stunt.

    Burritto calls Jarret Johnson 100% right.

  3. pacstud says: May 22, 2012 9:37 PM

    “It’s a bunch of guys who never played football before,” Johnson said.

    Posted by Mike Florio

    Yeah, seems about right JJ.

    Cue “practice?” by AI but sub in the words “hip pads?…we talkin’ about hip pads?…hip pads?”

  4. sonnyboychris says: May 22, 2012 9:37 PM

    9/10 people who comment on these articles were on the debate team in HS lmao. Yet they feel competent enough to tell NFL players what to do.

  5. starfan79 says: May 22, 2012 9:38 PM

    CYA… (cover your ass)

  6. catquick says: May 22, 2012 9:39 PM

    If thats the case, then it should be the teams choice whether or not to pay you if you get injured there. I remember when helmets were optional in the NHL. Why wear one in the NFL? It should be your choice, right? Maybe the teams are tired of paying tens of millions of dollars to guys who got hurt when they wouldn’t have, if protected properly.

  7. savannahrose44 says: May 22, 2012 9:39 PM

    “It’s a bunch of guys who never played football before,” Johnson said. “You hear it all the time. They’re saying, ‘Why do players always complain about player safety if they’re not going to wear thigh pads?’ Well, thigh bruises and knee bruises aren’t ending careers.

    No, but they are taking players out of games. Playing time lost is salary wasted. This is a business after all.

  8. bchapman2011 says: May 22, 2012 9:41 PM

    Another stupid comment by a meathead football player. You have the former players to thank for this Jarret and there is nothing that you or the NFLPA will be able to about it. The game has been changed forever because of these frivilous concussion lawsuits. The players have nobody to blame but themselves.

  9. philahitman says: May 22, 2012 9:43 PM

    players who miss games with quad injuries and no leg pads… m.o.r.o.n. stunt.

  10. bereado says: May 22, 2012 9:43 PM

    hooks024 says:
    May 22, 2012 9:34 PM
    Sounds like the same logic used by factory workers who don’t want to wear safety glasses and ear plugs. Just like him, they are morons.

    Problem with that statement is that these guys can make a valid claim that knee pads slow them down and affect their ability to do their job.

  11. djstat says: May 22, 2012 9:46 PM

    Well when former players are SUING you for not protecting them…WTF did you idiots think was going to happen? I am tired of todays players whining and tired of yesterdays players whining. All of you over paid babies need to do humanity a favor and shut the hell up

  12. greymares says: May 22, 2012 9:47 PM

    I think it should be a choice. If you choose not to wear the pads you forfeit the right to wear a face mask. (and yes i did play football).

  13. nicksaviking says: May 22, 2012 9:52 PM

    Perhaps Sonny, but the guys who learned how to debate get to tell the football players what to do because they they have learned how to use logic and reason, something many football players obviously have not learned.

  14. alonestartexan says: May 22, 2012 9:56 PM

    These are the same guys that will be suing the NFL in 15 years for injuries sustained.

  15. jagsfanugh says: May 22, 2012 10:03 PM

    I agree, for years this game has been played w/o this and all of a sudden it’s needed. They should all just wear flags too.

  16. seahawks55 says: May 22, 2012 10:07 PM

    In ’05, Shaun Alexander left A playoff game with a concussion because he took a knee to the head that didn’t have a pad on it. Yep, total PR stunt. Has NOTHING to do with player safety.

  17. rmavs says: May 22, 2012 10:11 PM

    When will the players realize that they are employees (investments)? In the military, we call the “safety” gear PPE (personal protection equipment), and we, too, are investments to our boss. I’ve never played in the NFL, as I am sure that none of the current NFL players have fought in a TRUE war. Suck it up, shut your mouth, and play on Sundays, and eventually on Saturdays and Thursdays. The League will invest in companies to create the high tech, thin, “like-they’re-not-there-pads”, while guys taking real fire have been needing better gear and protection for over a decade soaked in the horror of TRUE war. You make an enormous amount of money…roll with some punches.

  18. freedomispopular says: May 22, 2012 10:15 PM

    “You play this game because you want to play this game, and the risks you take are the risks you take. If you don’t want to wear hip pads, knee pads or thigh pads, you shouldn’t have to. It should be a choice.”

    True that. As long as there’s a clause in your contract saying that you agree not to come back later and sue the NFL.

  19. mattj425 says: May 22, 2012 10:18 PM

    I realize this isn’t the most apples-to-apples comparison, but I would imagine players had similar feelings back when facemasks were first introduced.

  20. sonoco says: May 22, 2012 10:19 PM

    I thought the shield wanted to make the leg pads mandatory because they were supposed to decrease the chances of concussions due to getting knee’d in the head and whatnot. Seriously. Even if it decreased the number of concussions by a few per year it would be worth it. It’s not like the game would slow down significantly.

  21. zeke2517 says: May 22, 2012 10:19 PM

    The NFL will destroy itself within the next fifteen years.

  22. paperlions says: May 22, 2012 10:21 PM

    They should make all equipment optional….and if you get hurt as a result of not wearing a particular piece of safety equipment, you don’t get paid for time you miss due to injury. If you don’t want to allow teams to protect their investments….they shouldn’t have to pay when those investments are injured due to lack of protection.

  23. thcnote says: May 22, 2012 10:22 PM

    Don’t blame the nfl, blame the retired players.

  24. lpdog32 says: May 22, 2012 10:25 PM

    In 20 years this will be the same guy lined up to sue the NFL because of all the damage to his legs.

  25. vincentbojackson says: May 22, 2012 10:25 PM

    You would make changes too if you ran a business and people were lining up to sue you on a daily basis.

    Don’t blame the league for all these stupid rule changes, blame the players and their lawyers that are filing all these frivolous lawsuits.

  26. ggreen7 says: May 22, 2012 10:29 PM

    I agree. It’s stupid.

  27. thejuddstir says: May 22, 2012 10:32 PM

    I think it’s time the NFL has players sign waivers that if they don’t want to play by the rules established to protect them, that they do not have the ability to later sue. It’s getting pretty ridiculous, the retired players want to sue for the injuries they sustained and the current players don’t want anything to do with player safety. The current players don’t get “it”, the day is coming when they will be “retired”.

  28. everyoneholdsorakpo says: May 22, 2012 10:34 PM

    “You play this game because you want to play this game, and the risks you take are the risks you take. ”
    If I am a lawyer for the NFL in this class action legal mess with NFL oldies claiming concussion damages….this is the first person I call to the stand. The defense calls Quentin Jammer to the stand.
    Brilliant comment.

  29. garyman1 says: May 22, 2012 10:34 PM

    20 years from now, Jarret Johnson will sue the NFL for injuries to his legs.

  30. nyyjetsknicks says: May 22, 2012 10:37 PM

    sonnyboychris says:
    May 22, 2012 9:37 PM
    9/10 people who comment on these articles were on the debate team in HS lmao. Yet they feel competent enough to tell NFL players what to do.

    _______________________

    Most people don’t feel like reading “1,200 former nfl players are suing the nfl because they didn’t do enough to protect us” 10 years from now.

    The players can’t have it both ways. They can’t complain they’re making the NFL flag football and end up suing the NFL for injuries once they retire. Force the players to wear the pads or sign a waiver.

  31. kraigk1 says: May 22, 2012 10:41 PM

    Oh ok, totally got it now.

    During career = complain about protective gear.

    After career = complain about long-term injuries.

  32. roaark says: May 22, 2012 10:41 PM

    Anyone who has played this game knows that thigh pads, knee pads and hip pads do nothing. In college we bought youth size pads and cut them so that they’d be very small but still conformed to the rules. Get ready to see tiny pads in the NFL.

  33. giselleisasucubus says: May 22, 2012 10:43 PM

    “thigh and leg bruises arent career enders”. Nooo, but do you think the owner who is paying you 5 mil wants to hear you bitch because you cant practice and may miss a game or 2 when it could have been avoided w/equipment they are supposed to wear? These guys are morons.

  34. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: May 22, 2012 10:47 PM

    “I don’t get hit, so I don’t need to worry about pads. ”

    I played college ball as a running back. Once you get past the line of scrimmage you cut the first defensive player you see. Blocking 101.

    Jarrett, you are obviously at a WAY higher level I ever played in but you never got cut at the legs?

    By no way do I believe added leg pads would be the end all for injuries but they can’t hurt to wear them. Regardless of the reason the owners are throwing this out there I just do not get the push back. It’s no big deal. Thigh and knee pads weigh nothing and are scalable. They do not infringe on mobility.

  35. buddybowl69 says: May 22, 2012 10:52 PM

    If EVERYBODY wears the same pads, then there is no disadvantage to wearing them. If the offensive player wears them and feels like they’re running slower, what do you think the defensive player feels? Equality to all.

  36. buddybowl69 says: May 22, 2012 10:54 PM

    I would like to take it one step more and make wearing of knee braces mandatory for all. The same handicapping of both offense and defense, but it will protect everybody’s knees.

  37. latenightroach says: May 22, 2012 11:02 PM

    If their not forced to wear them, they’ll end up suing the NFL after they retire. Good call by the league.

  38. brewdogg says: May 22, 2012 11:17 PM

    sonnyboychris says: May 22, 2012 9:37 PM

    9/10 people who comment on these articles were on the debate team in HS lmao. Yet they feel competent enough to tell NFL players what to do.
    ————————————–

    I was on the debate team in HS. I also played football, in HS and college. I’m guessing you also believe that women can’t be attractive and smart at the same time, right?

    As far as Mr Johnson is concerned, I would encourage him to talk to EJ Henderson about thigh pads.

  39. The Overtime Sports Talk Show says: May 22, 2012 11:21 PM

    How about not wearing a helmet, or shoes, mouthpiece. This guys will included in a lawsuit against the NFL, for knee pad rash in 2020. Watch, you’ll see.. SMH

  40. sdcameron says: May 22, 2012 11:21 PM

    whitecastleisafoodgroup says:
    May 22, 2012 10:47 PM
    “I don’t get hit, so I don’t need to worry about pads. ”

    I played college ball as a running back. Once you get past the line of scrimmage you cut the first defensive player you see. Blocking 101.

    Jarrett, you are obviously at a WAY higher level I ever played in but you never got cut at the legs?

    By no way do I believe added leg pads would be the end all for injuries but they can’t hurt to wear them. Regardless of the reason the owners are throwing this out there I just do not get the push back. It’s no big deal. Thigh and knee pads weigh nothing and are scalable. They do not infringe on mobility.

    ————————————————–

    Jammer said that, he is a corner.

  41. croghan1919 says: May 22, 2012 11:22 PM

    The comments pointing out the lawsuits from retired players hit the nail on the head.
    The NFL is trying to protect itself from FUTURE successful litigation.
    And I see NO problem with that.

  42. slick3 says: May 22, 2012 11:26 PM

    rmavs says: May 22, 2012 10:11 PM

    When will the players realize that they are employees (investments)? In the military, we call the “safety” gear PPE (personal protection equipment), and we, too, are investments to our boss. I’ve never played in the NFL, as I am sure that none of the current NFL players have fought in a TRUE war. Suck it up, shut your mouth, and play on Sundays, and eventually on Saturdays and Thursdays. The League will invest in companies to create the high tech, thin, “like-they’re-not-there-pads”, while guys taking real fire have been needing better gear and protection for over a decade soaked in the horror of TRUE war. You make an enormous amount of money…roll with some punches.
    ======================================================

    rmavs as a former army medic, I can state with certainty that any blunt force trauma such as that incurred with such violent force as inherent in pro football, can, and has resulted in deep vein thrombosis (DVT) which is a blood clot (thrombophlebitis) that in turn frequently develops into phlebitis (inflammation of a vein). Phlebitis can be either deep or superficial. More often than not, it is deep from such trauma.

    On the other hand, deep vein thrombosis of the upper and lower extremities can be a more serious problem that can lead to a blood clot traveling to the blood vessels of the lungs and resulting in pulmonary embolism. Pulmonary embolism can injure lung tissue, is serious, and occasionally fatal.

    It can present with chest pain and shortness of breath and is a life-threatening condition. More than 90% of pulmonary emboli arise from the legs.

    Post-phlebitic syndrome can occur after a deep vein thrombosis. The affected leg can become chronically swollen and painful with skin color changes and ulcer formation around the foot and ankle. This is a very serious condition. Unfortunately, many football players are not attuned to the medical aspects of what they consider “not serious” injuries and can do themselves more harm than good by adopting a cavalier attitude that, in the end, could cost them their lives if not reported in a timely manner.

    Fortunately, on the other hand, they have the benefit of astute medical staffs that will treat that condition before, during, or after complications arise with compression stockings which are routinely used, prophylactic early and low doses of heparin or enoxaparin, and, believe it or not, frequent ambulation (walking) to prevent the formation of blood clots.

    Bruises to the lower leg should not be taken as lightly as Jarret Johnson would have you believe. Ignorance is a deadly enemy.

  43. rgledz says: May 22, 2012 11:46 PM

    The first time I heard of Jarrett Johnson……….wait, that was right now. I care what this guys says because……???

  44. edenprairieballer says: May 22, 2012 11:49 PM

    The real problem is that we are talking about knee and thigh pads. I dont think anyone would care if they made players wear gigantically oversized helmets to prevent head injuries. But we talking about thigh pads?! Thigh pads?!?! (Allen iverson accent).

  45. godcanfirealdavis says: May 23, 2012 12:07 AM

    I give the nfl 10 more years before it destroys itself with all these rules and lawsuits… You know, kinda like our country.

  46. fm31970 says: May 23, 2012 12:22 AM

    “Well, thigh bruises and knee bruises aren’t ending careers.”

    Maybe, but chronic, repeated injuries to the same area of a player’s body take their toll, and sometimes end careers early.

    Sincerely,

    Gale Sayers and Jim Brown

  47. usedtool says: May 23, 2012 1:11 AM

    I understand that I was a fair sandlot and bad HS player. But I did learn a few things. Flying through the air and landing on a hip hurts like hell. Catching a knee to the thigh ditto. Pain is your body’s way of saying you have been INJURED. Whether recovery time is a day or a year, it is still an INJURY. And your body only recovers so many times.

    How many times have we read a team member missed time because of a “deep thigh bruise” or a “hip pointer” or a “knee contusion”. Wanna guess why these pads were invented?

  48. thestillcity says: May 23, 2012 1:30 AM

    Do these guys ever realize they are EMPLOYEES? If my boss thinks there’s something I could be doing to improve our product, I don’t have any choice in the matter. If I want to retain my job, I’ll do it — with a smile.

    Most of these guys are embarrassingly undereducated, and aren’t of any use to ANYBODY while injured, but especially the men paying their salary.

    If the safety committee believes these pads can protect their investment in your fleeting athleticism, then do it, because no one else is going to pay you to do anything.

  49. usedtool says: May 23, 2012 1:33 AM

    rmavs: To prove your point, my son is a disabled Iraq Vet. He was injured due to a LACK of equipment, not by his choice. The equipment wasn’t available to him when it was readily available in the US (and very low cost) because our former President wanted a cheap war. People like yourself and my son DESERVE the best protection available. And, since our government failed to provide it while the “cheap war President” was in office, you and my son DESERVE every possible recompense from our Nation.

    At the same time, the NFL players deserve nothing. Equipment was developed BECAUSE it prevented injury. Compare what they wear now to the past. Knee, thigh, hip, and rib pads along with substantial shoulder pads were NORMAL. The current players don’t want to use the available equipment because they want their butts to look good on TV, fine. Let them live with the consequences with no chance of suing later. SCREWM.

    BTW: It is time to do away with the hip-hugger pants as well. Trust me guys, seeing your azz crack is not “enhancing” my experience as a viewer.

  50. hedleykow says: May 23, 2012 3:08 AM

    Legs get hit when players are just standing there?

    How come Randy Moss is still able to walk?

  51. zabarang says: May 23, 2012 3:14 AM

    I love how you armchair owners & GM’s know more about what the players need or should have then they do. I know you have more experience then the professional football players who have been doing it as in Jarret Johnsons case a 9+ year vet, you know more about if he needs to wear pads on his legs then he does. Thank you for enlightening both myself and these professional football players with your deep insite, superior knowledge and experience.
    Keep up the good work showing the world how smart you are.

  52. zabarang says: May 23, 2012 3:44 AM

    Another thing I have noticed not only in this posting but many others I have read are all these dumb asses calling football players meat heads, dumb football players, morons and many other names knocking there intelligence. These people calling name most likely haven’t gotten there GED’s yet and they are talking down to players who not only finished high school but have been through several years of college and quite a few have degrees. I feel sorry for these people who have to try to belittle others who have succeeded where for what ever reason they didn’t.

  53. nicktaargus says: May 23, 2012 3:56 AM

    I used to be in the NFL.

    Until I took an arrow to the knee

  54. cali49er707 says: May 23, 2012 4:19 AM

    im sorry i TRULY respect all your opinions but dude had the CYA posts summed it all up, thats really what it boils down too, it aint got nothing to do with injuries because, if you haven’t heard EVERYONE can be replaced but in corporate america $$$$$ cant, this game has only gotten bigger since the likes of joe montana, jerry rice, lawrence taylor, emitt smith, troy aikman, & so on & so on, now players in the future cant use this excuse!!!! CYA

  55. seth1280 says: May 23, 2012 5:15 AM

    “You play this game because you want to play this game, and the risks you take are the risks you take. If you don’t want to wear hip pads, knee pads or thigh pads, you shouldn’t have to. It should be a choice.”

    Jammer says this now because he is earning a large salary. If he has a career ending injury, he will stand in line with the other players suing the league for not protecting them against concussions.

    There I said it!

  56. lawyermalloy says: May 23, 2012 6:22 AM

    There’s an easy solution if the players don’t wish to wear the pads. Every player who chooses Not to wear them signs an “INJURY WAIVER” for ANY injury causeally connected to not wearing the pads and holds teams and the league harmless!

  57. browns627 says: May 23, 2012 7:04 AM

    if players whine and complain about player safety and they are given equipment to wear and dont then any injuries they receive should be on them not the league.

    i’m still waiting for the robo cop uniform then women can join the league too.

  58. vex24 says: May 23, 2012 7:35 AM

    Regardless of the ‘Safety’ issue, the mandatory rule of wearing Hip, Thigh & Knee pads…Will Slow down the speed of the game. All WRs & DBs (that have been asked about this issue prior to this proposed rule) have stated their reason for not wearing the lower body pads was to increase their speed.

  59. jcdavey2011 says: May 23, 2012 8:01 AM

    i think JJ is off base here a bit, but can anyone name a retired player currently or recently, suing the nfl over leg injuries??

  60. zerophocus says: May 23, 2012 8:10 AM

    I don’t know how the league deals with the NFLPA. When the labor force is as stupid as it is you can’t make logical arguments against them because the brick wall of dumb just blocks it all.

  61. tombrookshire says: May 23, 2012 8:52 AM

    So with all the concussions and former player lawsuits, the league has decided it is actually the legs of the players that are most at risk of injury. Hmmmm…interesting.

  62. gbmickey says: May 23, 2012 9:01 AM

    Zabarang wearing protective pads to prevent injury is just common sense something you and many of the players are clearly lacking in in. Based on your posts i would hazard to guess you might have taken a knee or two to the head yourself.

  63. conormacleod says: May 23, 2012 9:06 AM

    At first I thought this was just another moron football player blabbing on about something. Then I thought, he might have a point. It’s his choice! We should all stand up for ourselves! So I told my boss I wasn’t going to wear pants or shoes at work anymore. It doesn’t affect my job! He reminded me that he signs my paycheck so he gets to make the rules. Sometimes life isn’t fair, eh uneducated NFL player?

  64. cooklynn17 says: May 23, 2012 9:20 AM

    Who?

  65. ohiodarin says: May 23, 2012 10:09 AM

    I’d say the timing is suspicious. This may not be a PR stunt but I’d bet it’s more of an evidence gathering maneuver for the pending concussion lawsuits. The more the players speak out about knowing the risks and they’re willing to take them the better the NFL in a court of law.

  66. bunjy96 says: May 23, 2012 11:49 AM

    kraigk1 says: May 22, 2012 10:41 PM

    Oh ok, totally got it now.

    During career = complain about protective gear.

    After career = SUE about long-term injuries.

    Fixed it for ya.

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